| By Dragonfield1221 (Dragonfield1221) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit |
Wow. Our school has been in an uproar lately over cheating. There have been, according to our teachers, at least fifteen times where people have been caught cheating(repeat offenders included). I think someone got kicked out for cheating. The thing that pushed it over the edge was last week, when someone stole a Spanish test (our Spanish teacher is especially tough on cheaters) and showed it to four/five of her friends. We don't know what's going to happen to her, but all of our teachers gave us 20 min lectures on cheating, and the IB honor code, and our Bio teacher made us sign a non-cheating contract with her in red ink (heheh...)
So just wanted to know--are any of your schools having cheating problems?
| By Vtoodler (Vtoodler) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit |
wow that's horrible. Our school is in engulfed in a similiar uproar. SUPPOSEDLY, a student plagarized on a big essay for her english class. When the teacher found out, she was pissed and immediately gave the student a 0. Sadly, the essay was worth A LOT of points, and the student could possibly fail. When our high school principal found out, she told the English teacher to "go easy" on the plagarizer just because the girl was a top athlete. But the teacher felt that doing this would comprimise her principles and now she's resigning from our high school. How sad.
| By Firebird12637 (Firebird12637) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:12 pm: Edit |
some senior from my school stole like a poetry test for his AP english last year, caught but school never did anything, cuz his parents threatened to sue or something, now he's going to princeton
then, also last year, president-elect of NHS was caught cheating, got kicked out, but this year he's back in NHS (not as prez, obviously), he's going to Duke??? i think?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:14 pm: Edit |
I think the problem with cheating lies in parental expectations. If parents didnt beat and yell at their kids for bringing home Bs, there would be a lot less cheating.
| By Sraid7777 (Sraid7777) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:31 pm: Edit |
...or maybe if teachers weren't oblivious during tests and quizzes, then kids couldn't get away with having textbooks open....
| By Magoo (Magoo) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:46 pm: Edit |
agree with shhh...but more impotantly, these parents do not notice or care about these situations until thier S/D gets into trouble...they expect high grades and expect them not to cheat (but they don't tell them not to cheat).
aside from parents it is sort of a lack of responsibility/empathy issue that resides in bad social influences.
oh well, let them go to college and get caught cheating
| By Leostargrl22 (Leostargrl22) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:01 pm: Edit |
So many kids at my school cheat, and even the NHSers. It is kinda hushhush since it is more prevalent in some classes than others.
| By Mimi (Mimi) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:43 pm: Edit |
yeah... many people cheat on japanese tests even though it's pretty easy and the teacher lets everybody retake them as much as they want. guess we're just lazy. and i usually actually see people cheat myself a couple of times
| By Wishful_Thinker (Wishful_Thinker) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:25 am: Edit |
i see cheating all the time, literally. if i were to look around during ANY test, i could catch atlesat 3 incidents when looking up at that one time, it's pathetic actually. i personally don't believe it won't get anyone anywhere far.
what i hate more than cheating is people who don't feel bad for cheating.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:34 am: Edit |
Once, I cheated...
death.
| By Joel_Set (Joel_Set) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:02 am: Edit |
Vtoodler (Vtoodler)
"wow that's horrible. Our school is in engulfed in a similiar uproar. SUPPOSEDLY, a student plagarized on a big essay for her english class. When the teacher found out, she was pissed and immediately gave the student a 0. Sadly, the essay was worth A LOT of points, and the student could possibly fail. When our high school principal found out, she told the English teacher to "go easy" on the plagarizer just because the girl was a top athlete. But the teacher felt that doing this would comprimise her principles and now she's resigning from our high school. How sad."
- hahahah that's so ironic.. because i did a timed-writing assignment last week.. and what you mentioned was like literally on the passage. funny stuff.
| By Vtoodler (Vtoodler) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:14 am: Edit |
you're kidding
| By Dragonfield1221 (Dragonfield1221) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit |
I think a lot of the problems come from the kids being lazy. They want to get a high grade, but are not willing to work *that* hard for it.
| By Rokko91 (Rokko91) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit |
We had a sub in math last week and two girls who consistently get the top grades in class "shared" a graphing calculator. Of course, the sub didn't notice.
| By Demonllama (Demonllama) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit |
our ap english class is divided into 2 periods. my class always gets the tests first (we're on block scheduling so we have class every other day), and so the people in the other class always get the answers. so it really irks me that i work hard and study hard to get a good grade on the test and end up getting a B in the class, while my friends in the other class have As because someone from MY class copied down all the answers and gave it to the people in the other class to cheat off of. They didn't even earn their As, and it really pisses me off that I worked so hard and I have a lower grade than them.
and what I don't understand is why this guy in my class just has to copy down all the answers for each test and give them to the next class, because it certainly doesn't benefit him at all. in fact, it might even hurt him. douche bag.
| By Vtoodler (Vtoodler) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 07:47 pm: Edit |
How come you didn't tell your teacher about this?
| By Pinkandpurple (Pinkandpurple) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:21 pm: Edit |
because then he'd be a tattle-tale
I haven't seen people cheat on tests lately, but I know a whole bunch of people that cheat on homework. I think this is because my history class is mostly busywork. (striaght out of the book... fun..)
| By Kewkiekid (Kewkiekid) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 11:29 pm: Edit |
everyone at my school cheats on everything, no one cares. it's pathetic.
| By Strider (Strider) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:05 am: Edit |
the top students in my school has created a underground cheating network
| By Kitkattail (Kitkattail) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:26 am: Edit |
I don't understand why it bothers people so much to see others cheat. It's their loss, in the long run. I know it sounds hokey and idealistic to say that you're better off learning the material for yourself, but it's true. If you take short cuts, eventually they will come back to bite you in the ass. Either people will expect you to be able to do stuff you can't, or else, if you cheat on small tests, when it comes to exams (where it's harder to cheat), you'll have had less practice and so you'll do worse. Or something. Bad things happen when you're cheap and don't do things properly the first time. Stitch in time and all that.
Anyway, other people's cheating doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they do well, good for them. It doesn't affect my marks at all.
| By Scoo8b (Scoo8b) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 08:11 am: Edit |
I only "cheat" when the teacher puts the whole class in a bad situation. Our Spanish IV teacher sucks, never teaches us anything, lets us watch movies and TV all class and then gives us tests over random things that she hasn't taught us. In this case, the class pretty much gets into unofficial small groups for the tests and we help each other out. I see nothing wrong with this because she never taught us any of it and we don't even have a textbook for independent study...
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 03:47 pm: Edit |
"Anyway, other people's cheating doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they do well, good for them. It doesn't affect my marks at all. "
Actually, it can. If a teacher sees that NO ONE in the class has an A, he will most likely curve the grades...and so then Bs will become As, Cs will become Bs...etc...and he will most likely lighten the courseload because it is apparantly too difficult/ But if a group of people cheat and get As, then the teacher will feel as if everyone is learning and let the grades be.
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