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Ok, the strangest thing happened to me and my friends yesterday-

We were sitting outside, eating lunch, as we always do. Five minutes before lunch is over, an open bottle of Wite-out comes hurtling towards us. It splatters over two of my friends' backpacks, and gets small flecks all over our hair and clothes. We look over in the direction the bottle came from, and there are a bunch of main program people (our school is split up into IB and main program)hooting and laughing at us.

One of my friends called a dean over, and they all ran away. So we were all feeling pretty pissed for the rest of the day.

The thing is, stuff like this has happened before. During International Day, a container of pudding landed on my friend's dress pants...hm. And sometimes during lunch random people will just come up from behind and push me.

Just wanted to share. Comments? Opinions?

By Djkid (Djkid) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

It's jealousy rearing it's ugly face again. You have what they don't have, the brains or the luck to be in the IB program. They resent you and are probably acting like that because they are upset. I had to deal with bullies with that all my life. Best thing to do is try to avoid them, eat where you will not see them. If any of them try to talk to you just say What's up? or Hi? and walk away. Who cares if your backpack is covered in white out, it's not gonna harm anyone (unless you decide to inhale it). If you don't get pissed off, they won't bother you anymore.

Unless you know some sick kid who will go out of his way to get you angry. I knew a kid like that too. Tried ignoring him, but he hit me randomly, swore at me, made fun of me. Ah well, he was a scrawny dumb fool, so I knew that the only way to get away from him was to get into higher level classes. The kid became my motivation to get the ***** out of there.

By Chimmortal (Chimmortal) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit

Sometimes bullies will go away if you ignore them, but sometimes you need to stick up for yourself. It looks to me like you've already tried ignoring them.

I would try to embarass them and make them feel like the mental midgets they are. Something like "Wow, you're in tenth grade and throw stuff. How mature." might work. That wasn't the best example, but the delivery is more important than the words anyways. You have to make them feel stupid and embarassed. There's a good example in Billy Madison if you're familiar with that movie.

If that fails, you might have to resort to physically confronting them. I know that if some kid purposely bumped into me on a regular basis, I wouldn't take it. I'd confront him first, and if he still was being an ass I'd pop him in the nose. Sometimes people don't understand anything but violence. However, make sure you can deal with the consequences if you decide to go that route.

By Purgeofdoors (Purgeofdoors) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit

It's a classic case of Nietzschean ressentiment. In Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Nietzsche claimed that the Overman incites resentment in the general population due to the fact that he is a member of the Master Race. The main program kids are clearly inferior individuals governed by Slave Morality. Take their bullying as a compliment.

By Dragonfield1221 (Dragonfield1221) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:06 pm: Edit

Yeah, I guessed it was something like that. It really pisses me off though, when they act up like that...gr...

By Zephyrmaster (Zephyrmaster) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Just confront them punks, if you are bigger.

By Drake (Drake) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:29 pm: Edit

I would physcially confront, don't hit them, just walk over to the group and ask "You think you're funny?" They will be dumbfounded and stare for several moments. Stare back for a moment. Then (with an annoyed expression on your face) ask "What's your problem??"
Then simply walk away.
They will stop laughing once you walk over.

If they see that you are "strong" enough to confront their entire group then you will have their respect (whatever that's worth) and they will then simply leave you alone.

It works for me when some strange kids started pushing me in the hall. Though I can't promise you anything beacause I'm a tall male with facial hair and that likely won't work for you if you are a short female.

By Devvv (Devvv) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:27 pm: Edit

oh man, beat the crap out of each and every one of em! have a field day!! why should you tolerate their immature behavior? ppl need some good butt whopping sometimes

my .02

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:25 pm: Edit

LOL. So the IB kids don't hang out with the main program kids? Why is everyone seperated. Sorry my school doesn't have an "IB" program and other split programs, so i'm not really familiar with this. I would just think that everyone in the high school would hang out with each other.

By Windslicer_Ib (Windslicer_Ib) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:28 pm: Edit

We have an IB program, and we seem to mesh well with the quote "non-IBers"

*shrugs*

But in your situation, I wouldn't suggest violence, perhaps maybe when they do it one day just walk up to them and say, as others have suggested, "What's up with that? We haven't done anything to you, so we expect to be treated the same" Just don't use any "big" words, they'll think you're acting arrogant.

By Dswmo456 (Dswmo456) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:23 am: Edit

If you and your friends are lacking in the conscience, then next time a kid messes with you, go up and crack him in the nose or something. Then, when the dean comes, have all of your friends say that he threw the first punch (at my school that's all they care about). I mean, who will the dean believe? IB students or stupid bullies?

By Fallenangel85 (Fallenangel85) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:17 am: Edit

I noticed this happening when i was going to day school. The school is half magnet performing and comm. arts and half traditional. And you could tell. For the year I was there the first half I was traditional because I missed summer auditions, but I tried out in winter and was accepted to creative writing dept. When my friends found out they were all like "So what now your gonna get all snobby, cause your in the magnet program? I couldnt belive the immaturity! but it got worse. when i was changed to the magnet program my home room was changed to a magent home room...and I was totally shunned no one was talking to even though I tried to make an effort by saying hi, introducing myself, and asking as many names i could. There was only one other girl that i became relitivly good friends with and she was was in the same situation..freshmen/winter auditioned...needless to say this put insane social presure on me and it drove me nuts...litterally...i fell into a deep depression and then eventually dropped out for the first half of my junior year.

By Devvv (Devvv) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:26 am: Edit

Wooossaaahh

By Crnchycereal (Crnchycereal) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:31 am: Edit

This is one reason why I'm glad I go to a non-specialized public school. We have a pretty strong AP program, but the idea of actually separating students between different programs under the same roof just sounds like trouble. Resentment is natural. Fortunately, despite the AP program, the majority of kids in the AP classes are well-respected/popular enough to not get any trouble from other kids. In fact, we're probably less "cliquish" than other schools; there really are few barriers between social groups.

By Fallenangel85 (Fallenangel85) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:27 pm: Edit

Btw dont get me wrong but i think there were a lot of racial and financial status tensions at my school also, between the two groups(magnet and traditional). The school is located downtown near the city pj's and alot of the kids in the traditional were from low income minority family's, ussualy hispaninc or black, that live with in walking distance, while the majority of the people in the arts magnet program were caucasian semi-professional, long time trained vocalists,dancers,writers,musicians from well developed subburbs 20-45 min away.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit

Yeah, I guess that's one of the few benifits of me going to an 80 percent white and 20 percent asian school. Not very much racial tension. Also another one of the benifits of going to a school in a town, where everyone has "financial" status. Everyone seems to mesh really well, accept clearly there are different groups and stuff. But I get along with just about everyone in my class of 300 it seems like.


But that doesn't sound like something you should be going into deep depression about fallenangel, i'd just say, "yeah i'm going to become one of those snobs, wink at them, then walk off into the sun"

By Fallenangel85 (Fallenangel85) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:43 pm: Edit

heh....well really it was one of many cause for the depression. I had a lot of family issues going on at the time to.
but as far as school went, im a lower middle class white girl, i didnt mesh well with the thugs and latinos of trad and then i didn fit in very well with the preps of the mag...I was kinda in the middle and there were very few people there with me. thats why i just stopped caring wether i went which made me feel like crap even more because i was letting my grandmother down. Im so much happier now though... I found my niche and an awesome group of friends. People that im gonna actully miss when i leave highschool

By Dragonfield1221 (Dragonfield1221) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:08 pm: Edit

Yeah, like 80 something percent of the main program at my school is black. And most of the rest are rednecks.. There are a lot of people on that side of the town that aren't really financially well-off. And on the other side, where most of the IB-ers come from, it's like suburbia. I know that the school board put the IB program in that school to boost its overall grades, but it's starting to affect the 8th graders who have to decide between IB or the other high schools which have AP and Honors classes. Gr. Thanks for responding to my rants and stuff.

By Sraid7777 (Sraid7777) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:22 pm: Edit

whats an IB?

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:47 am: Edit

Don't fight 'em, that's stupid. Just laugh maniacally the next time you see them, and say you're going off to the shooting range. It'll give them a good scare.

By Lame (Lame) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:55 am: Edit

Just say "this item brings me a con +3 for the next 10 rolls". Then ask if maybe they would like some (insert lunch item) on themselves for an int +2.

By Fallenangel85 (Fallenangel85) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:26 am: Edit

sraid, ib is short for international baccalaurete (you just know that was misspelled) and long story short it's a very sad commentary on how our education sytem has failed to meet its potential....no seriously, ib was created as a way for student traveling continentally to have a solidly based education no matter where there at. in almost every country on every continent there is a high school or upper school or higher form that teaches the IB curriculum. which standards happen to be well above the average us public school curriculum. hence the joke above.

heres more info,

By Glowingamy (Glowingamy) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit

haha, in middle school people would cut class and go up to the honors classes and shout

"HONERDS!!!!!!!!!!!"

By Shaka (Shaka) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 08:01 pm: Edit

LOL this is like the 50s...i hardly ever see this problem anymore...

let me ask you, do you guys seem really nerdy? if so, i suggest you change your whole attire and attitude and be smart and cool at the same time ;)

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 12:51 am: Edit

Nah, be who you are. If Dungeons and Dragons is your thing, go with it. If contacts itch your eyes, stick with the 5-inch thick horn-rimmed glasses. If your shoelaces are always getting undone and keep touching the bathroom floor, use Velcro. Got knobby knees? Wear knee socks.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 01:00 am: Edit

no no, i dun mean change cuz of THEM...just change because it's much more fun to be 2 things at once...you can still be smart, play CS and design websites....but you can still wear an earrin, do some poppin and breakin, and check out da ladiz ;)

By Kingb123 (Kingb123) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit

Don't talk to them. Beat their asses the next time they do something and they won't do it again. Simple as that.

By Djkid (Djkid) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNN, Shaka, you're old, must be at least 44 years old if your were alive during the 50s. Wow, how does it feel to be old? Where did you go to college? How come your in this college forum? Are you a guidance counselor or a parent?

By Katiya (Katiya) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit

Ew that's weird that they split you up. It's usually the people in the regular classes who are smarter than the people in the IB and AP classes. You just don't know it.

But you will learn. You have only lived 30% of your life, tops.

By Crnchycereal (Crnchycereal) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 05:19 pm: Edit

Djkid, I think one can infer from Shaka's speech that he is most certainly not in his 40's. His reference to the 50's was made as a point of comparison, not as anecdotal evidence.

By Neelesh (Neelesh) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:37 pm: Edit

i was made fun of in my school for being:
A: a vegetarian
B: an asian indian
C: really skinny (im 5'10" and weigh 115 pounds)

like everyone would make fun of me, but i would just take it (im tall but skinny w/no muslces...i cant confront them) and take it..everyone soon got bored of it, and i also talked to them about it, and i guess i somehow got cooler? cause they liked me more, and they thought it was kinda cool that i was different...no one really makes fun of me for it now, and they all like me..

I go to a school that is 90% white, (mostly mormon if u wanna know) 9.5% hispanic, and .5% other..meaning 1 asian indian, (me) 2 japanese, 2 blacks. thats it..a ton of diversity eh?

all us "other" hang out w/the white just about, and the hispanics have their own group, and big fights break out between them and whites...there have been guns involved once...

i live in boring ol' idaho that is SO not diverse..but people learn to live along with almost everone.

dragonfield: my advice is (if your bigger than them) confront them if u can, or if ur smaller, just take it, or do the same stuff back to them if u cant take it. If you dont show signs that u mean what you mean, they will keep doing it.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit

DAMMMMMNNNN djkid, you must be dumb!

stfu lol...im tryin to help the kid out

how the hell i sound old? i know im sound really damn smart to you cuz your a dumbass, but...still...

By Djkid (Djkid) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 10:05 pm: Edit

DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNN Shaka and Crnchycereal, you guys must be blundering idiots. Wow you guys are even dumber than you think I am! You guys are ••••••• retards!

Shut the •••• up, I know you were "trying" to help the kid out. I think the kid would have a better chance surviving the bullies without your help. I know you tried your best but you're limited by your stupidity. You don't sound old you ••••••• dumbass. I was kidding around, can't you take a ••••••• joke? You actually sounded like a 5 year old pretending that you lived in the 50s. My intellect and everyone else's intellect on this board is a billionfold more than yours. Save your brainpower, no need to respond. Your doing the exact thing the first poster is trying to avoid. Your talking trash to someone else and essentially making me feel aggression towards you, precisely what a bully does. Therefore, your a dumbass bully. There, I laid it out for you: Y O U A R E A D U M B A S S B U L L Y. Read slow, I know you may have trouble comprehending that sentence.

By the way, did you really think that I would be that rude to a senior citizen if I knew that it was a senior citizen. I grew up respecting my elders and other people. Apparently, your lacking in those areas. Give up trying to help the kid out, your a hypocrite.

Learn from Crnchycereal. Even though he thought that I really thought you were in your mid-40s, he stated it nicely. He is not that bright, but he is a million times smarter than you.

By Dragonfield1221 (Dragonfield1221) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 09:41 pm: Edit

Thanks guys! (but, um, don't get *too* mad...)

I guess I'll just live with it. I'll be living with it for the next three years, anyway.

By Xenowang (Xenowang) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 09:48 pm: Edit

*coughcoughtrollcoughcough*

By Djkid (Djkid) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 09:54 pm: Edit

Xenowang, who are you calling a troll? That's not very nice. By the way I noticed that you live in Hillsdale, do you know Saori?

By Summoner (Summoner) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 10:02 pm: Edit

djkid, you're funny.

anyway, i have tons of experience will bullies.
6th to 10th grade.

most of the time, it was for being smart and asian. i tried confronting the bullies and told them that they were dumbass racists that would be heating up my fries later in life but that didn't help. anyway, the best solution is to move to another school. if i stayed in that school i would've gone columbine.
jk

anyway, i was suspended once for fighting when someone teased me and i beat him to a bloody pulp.

By Djkid (Djkid) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 10:06 pm: Edit

Good! someone appreciates my "humor". Unless he's laughing at me..... Haha

By Idiias (Idiias) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 10:09 pm: Edit

It's because they are seeing you as their supperior. Stop acting like your a spoiled Princeton kid and they are going to be cleaning your floors one day. You all go to the same school. And so you are all, "grizzlies, hawks, or whatever you are." Start treating them like an equal....get to know them, and dont act better than them. You can start by stop calling them the "main program people"

By Djkid (Djkid) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 10:27 pm: Edit

Idiias, that was great advice, bravo! Obviously, this guy is very intelligent and has common sense.

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 11:20 pm: Edit

I concur with Idiias as well. That is the approach I have taken in all of school and I have never gotten in a fight with anyone. Often, my very best friends came from completely different backgrounds than me as far as socioeconomic standing/goals/intelligence go. But I still liked them alot as people.