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Does anybody attend Lawrenceville or have information on it. I know the campus is one of the best. How are the academic program/sports/ecs/clubs? How does it rank with the other schools in NE?

By Prospect2 (Prospect2) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:28 am: Edit

Anybody???

By Surfmom (Surfmom) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 06:17 pm: Edit

Do message search with keyword "Lawrenceville" in this board and the Parents board. There are plenty of good posts.

My son is also accepted to Lawrenceville, amongst others in NE, and he plans to attend Lawrenceville.

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit

if i could redo the application process, i would've applied to lawrenceville and made it my first choice

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit

i got into lawrenceville for junior year and i heard 10 kids from my middle school got in, good to hear my middleschool is getting the fame it deserves. however only 1 kid has gone in the past 7 years, no one can afford it and that one kid had a full scholarship to lawrenceville, only 3 ppl get that. I am aiming for Milton or Andover for senior year, money is teh problem ;(

By Cubfan (Cubfan) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 07:38 pm: Edit

Gian, Why? It seems much different than Milton. I'm sure the weather is a little better and the kids seem not to be so predominately new england. But why do you like it?

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:13 pm: Edit

Cubfan: because its simply beautiful and lawrenceville (around the campus) is a nice area. my parents wanted to buy a house in LV but they didn't (regrettable the property value went up 300%!) There is also Princeton, Rutgers, and 40 minutes away NYC. Lawrenceville is also liberal and very easy compared to andover, I mean I know some dumb kids that play on the streets got in. You really don't need EC's for Lawrenceville ESPECIALLY as a freshmen, the down side to all boarding schools except phillips exiter, milton, and andover are the exceptionally high tuition, without much financial aid to everyone. Lawrenceville is very nice Gian, I'm surprised you didn't go here ;( I probably would have gone for next year if you went there Gian, because to tell you the truth that little talk we had a year ago was what really pushed me to Lawrenceville. And Cubfan Lawrenceville is AMAZINGLY diverse really it is. I would also consider how far away from home you will be ;)

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:14 pm: Edit

sorry, just to add Lawrenceville is a good school, but no where as challenging as Milton, Andover, and Exiter. Also if you were a science person like me, everyone who has gone there has told me their sciences are not as strong as their liberals, they told me to lie to get into stuy, but I don't lie itzcuzimuslim ;0

By Prospect2 (Prospect2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:32 am: Edit

Thanks. I have to decide between Lawrenceville and Milton. Which one would you guys recommend?I plan to revisit the schools next week.

By Cubfan (Cubfan) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Mochika,
If you look at the admit stats and sat's Lville seems the equal of all the schools you mention. Why do you think it is academically inferior to the others? I agree it is probably more diverse and not as prepped out as the other ones.

By Cubfan (Cubfan) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:04 pm: Edit

lville is one of the few schools that you can access the student newspaper from the website. It is a good way to get to know what is really going on.

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:08 pm: Edit

cubfan, because they really don't offer as much financial aid as the other schools can. i contacted Exiter and they said that my tuition after financial aid would be around 7-11k WHICH IS VERY EXPENISIVE but still if I get a job its affordable and for Exiter damn worth it. On the other hand Exiter is also very competitive, Lawrenceville is a joke I know kids frommy middle school who applied with simple to no EC's and got in. Phillips exiter and milton would never accept that. Also, lawrenceville doesn't give much Financial aid out, all the kids from my middleschool couldn't go because of the lack of financial aid, compared to Phillips exiters financial aid, i only received 3k from Lawrenceville, which is a joke I would NEVER pay 20k for high school

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:09 pm: Edit

but once again cubfan you are right, they are liberal, the area is nice, and its open. they also have a lot of clubs

By Surfmom (Surfmom) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:38 pm: Edit

These schools all have similar percentages of students on FA, and the averages are substantially equal at slightly above 50% boarding tuition. There could be many reasons between rivalry schools especially aim to get a talented Junior from each other. Mochika, did you applied to Exeter when you first applied to Lawrenceville? and how was that different?

S is going to Lawrenceville on FA, not higher than other accepted schools but our sense is that they all worked under the same formula.

S's dad travels for business and his international friends all gave highest regards to Lawrenceville in terms of substance, more so he said, than the rest of the seven in NE. This seems applicable in both East Asia, and South America circles. It all seems, that by being out of the gossip belt, Lawrenceville is able to position differently, as reflected in its slightly liberal attitude and student diversity. Some of the recent Trustee decisions hinted at bold attempts to reach out west, and to the mid and deep south, for connections, recruitment and placement. Have you noticed they have the highest percentage of students attending Stanford, the other good school out here in the West Coast.

But Milton and all are excellent schools. We visited Milton and found its location (and perhaps neighbourhood) slighly less ideal than Lawrenceville. This is only our family's opinion. Matriculation they all achieved 10% HYP, one-third Ivy, and 50% to good schools when such others like MIT, Stanford, Georgetown, JHU etc.. are added. The differences can be explained by preselection and legacy factors and are only making secondary statistical differences.

Many of the schools pride themselves of history which is very valid because of prestige and legacy pride etc.. But if you look forward from this point in history you may want to find out more about the intentions of their trustees in preserving the past while weighing against entering the future. Watch their recent decisions. And geography makes a slight difference to character. South NJ is in the middle of the pharmaceutical and biotech companies, and amongst the recently deriled telecom companies. The composition of day and local students will be biased from these professional families as such.

When a school admits a 9th or 10th grade FA student it is making an investment, fully knowing the competitive rivalry with other schools may affect ultimate return. I suppose, from an old school of thought, that the students themselves may also want to avoid unnecesary transfers that may upset the admission stability long term. But again this is only one opinion.

As teenagers you all have, including our S, enviable decisions. In 20 years you will likely look back from a successful career what really matters in this decision. As the center of gravity of the business and cultural world changes, this decision calls for looking forward and not just the past, or the accounts today.

And from Silicon Valley I concur that this decision could and would have been made quite differently in 1904, or 1804.

Our S is 14 and we urged him to look forward.

By Mochika88 (Mochika88) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:44 pm: Edit

no i didn't apply to milton because i knew how hard it was, and to tell you the truth i'm not moving away from my family I observe religon with them, my family means something to me, more than grades and success. i contacted all schools i was thinking of applying to before hand lawrenceville and chafee gave me the lowest financial aid when milton and exiter would give me the most and after them andover

By Betsy (Betsy) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:03 pm: Edit

Lawrenceville is an excellent school, with a fabulous local reputation

By Surfmom (Surfmom) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 01:53 am: Edit

Betsy, how do you compare Princeton Day with Lawrenceville as a day student?

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit

"We visited Milton and found its location (and perhaps neighbourhood) slighly less ideal than Lawrenceville."

milton's location and neighborhood may be less ideal to you than lawrenceville's location and neighborhood, but i'd like to point out that to me, milton is a very peaceful and picturesque new england town. the average house is priced at around $690,000 and houses in east milton, especially, are very pricey (going up to $4 million).


"Matriculation they all achieved 10% HYP, one-third Ivy, and 50% to good schools when such others like MIT, Stanford, Georgetown, JHU etc.. are added."
could you please cite your source? milton, on average, sent to HYP 15.84% of any given senior class and lawrenceville sent 7.67%


source: http://www.meehawl.com/Webstore/Education/Getting%20Inside%20the%20Ivy%20Gates.html

By Cubfan (Cubfan) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit

gian, off topic but what do you think about repeating a year to help chances of admission. Do you think it would have mattered to you? thanks

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit

repeating a year at prep school to increase one's chances of admission at colleges, you mean? i don't think that repeating a year would be of much help, since colleges might simply think that the kid is very grade-obsessed. and the situation would be even worse if the student struggles to pull her grades for the second year in a row.

that's why coming in as a freshman would allow for a good period of adjustment because colleges typically overlook freshman year grades. i suppose that colleges would also know if a student transferred for sophomore instead of freshman year, but i don't know if they would give any special consideration to such student. i had no problem transitioning from middle school to a public high school, earning straight A's and being ranked number one in a class of 315+ kids, so the biggest adjustment for me thus far has been from freshman year at a public school to sophomore year at a prep school. needless to say, my grades have suffered quite a bit.

if you speak of repeating a grade in order to enter prep school, i know many kids who have done this. they were asked if they were willing to repeat grade 9 in order to be admitted to the school and they said yes under this condition.

By Cubfan (Cubfan) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit

i meant repeating to be ready for the rigors of the academics and adjustments to living away. I have a couple friends that also did it because the sports are more competetive. Seems to me you have enough adjustment moving without being blasted with a new level of academic expectations. thanks for your reply.

By Groundcontrol (Groundcontrol) on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 03:13 am: Edit

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What is their basis of coming up with these schools?