| By Techieguy (Techieguy) on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
I live in New Jersey and I don't understand why people hate New Jersey people. What is the stereotype against us? I'm a good person, and I'm nice to everyone I meet. And it's not like I decided to live here, my parents moved here when I was 4 from another country.
Oh, and why do people hate New Yorkers. I want to go to college there.
| By Soulofheaven8 (Soulofheaven8) on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
I think the stigma against NJ is largely due to its proximity to NY. NJ being a rural state has always given it a second-rate appeal, forever subservient to NY. Using the sports teams as an example: although the Nets went to the NBA Finals two consecutive years, they are still deemed as secondary to the Knicks. In hockey, although the Devils have won two out of the last three Stanley Cups, their celebration merely consisted of a party in the Meadowlands parking lot, not exactly compareable to the march down the Canyon of Heroes the NY Rangers enjoyed in their 1994 playoff run.
As for the reputation of New Yorkers, well, I live in NY, and plans to go to college in NY.
| By Crnchycereal (Crnchycereal) on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 07:13 pm: Edit |
...NJ is considered rural? No wonder some people ask if I'm a hick when I say I'm from Jersey. I live in a very suburban/metropolitan area so I was always confused by that stereotype....
| By Purgeofdoors (Purgeofdoors) on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:52 pm: Edit |
Ever heard of buffer states?
Yep, that's NJ. Sort of like the Uruguay of the Midatlantic region.
Even though I think it is a much nicer state than either New York or Pennsylvania, it doesn't quite have the size.
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 08:06 am: Edit |
rural? well, that's a new one. i've had people think the entire state was like the turnpike (that's all they had ever seen), and my aunt who visited from texas last year was suprised that we have trees in our backyard (i guess she expected cement?). i think that the weird things that people who don't actually know our state think know no bounds.
| By Cutie911 (Cutie911) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 12:15 pm: Edit |
NJ is rural if you live in Vinveland or something b/c i live in AC and its definitlry not rural i also lived in NY, Westchester to be more specific, and that was more rural then where I live now
| By Soulofheaven8 (Soulofheaven8) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
Cutie911, I'm living in Westchester right now. Where in West. did you used to be?
| By Demonllama (Demonllama) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit |
hey, it's not a nicer state than Pennsylvania! I used to live in PA :p
| By Nyu2010 (Nyu2010) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 04:50 pm: Edit |
Yeah, I live in PA and you can't get much more rural than this. I've always thought of NJ as sort of urban...
| By Purgeofdoors (Purgeofdoors) on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 11:57 pm: Edit |
I guess I've driven through Chester/South Philly too many times to not hate PA.
They could drop a hydrogen bomb on that place and it'd be a great benefit to humanity.
| By Valpal (Valpal) on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:52 am: Edit |
There is that "turnpike stigma". For a while, it was a running joke on comedy shows such as, SNL---the famous NJ Turnpike stench. I have never spent any appreciable amount of time in NJ, but the stereotypical image I'd always gotten in the past of was that of, urban industrial sprawl, brawling, lower-middle class neighborhoods, cultural mediocrity, etc. Then there is that annoying "Joyzie accent"....LOL!
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 09:14 am: Edit |
Valpal: not all of us have that accent. In fact, most of us don't. All depends on what part of Jersey.
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:41 am: Edit |
I believe the Joizie accent centers on Jersey City and surrounding towns... must be something in the water.
Uhh... I've lived in East Orange, Clifton, Belmar, Rutherford, Green Brook (and a few others as well.)
I miss the diners.
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 03:33 pm: Edit |
diners are the best.
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 04:23 pm: Edit |
I used to go to a diner that had an old time neon sign in the window which read
| By Huntsmanhopeful (Huntsmanhopeful) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:00 am: Edit |
Being from New Jersey, I am allowed to make fun of it. This will explain EVERYTHING. New Jersey has 4 parts to it; North, South, Central and West. West Jersey doesn't use the turnpike, they are a little different. South Jersey is full of farmers and coal miners. They are a bunch of hicks, very scary place to be. I stopped in a South Jersey gas station off the parkway one time, I was pretty scared. Too many people with mullets that still thought it was the 80's and they were cool. Central Jersey is the pollution capital of the world, and thats where people get the impression that Jersey is the armpit of the country. North Jersey is the suburbs of New York City. Along with Westchester, New York, it is the best place to live in the country. As most ivy league admissions officers will confess to, they can fill an entire qualified class just from Bergen County, NJ and Westchester, NY. New Jersey education is the best in the United States, and that is a statistical fact. People only hate New Jersey because either the people are weird or the people are better than they are, but there's nothing in the middle, nothing average about New Jersey. That is all.
| By Huntsmanhopeful (Huntsmanhopeful) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:02 am: Edit |
Sorry, typo. West Jersey doesn't use the parkway, that is why they are strange, sorry for the inconvenience.
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:29 am: Edit |
North Jersey and Southern New York ought to be made part of Connecticut--right along with Long Island. They all speak the same language and work in the same city. They could then raise their taxes at least another 25%.
West New Jersey ought to be made part of Philadelphia---everyone who lives there already claims to be from Philly--along with every Pennsylvanian east of Harrisburg. Make their collective wishes come true!
South Jersey ought to be annexed to Alabama (which ought to be annexed to Mississippi) and share the same state flag and quaint customs.
...which leaves Central Jersey. The vast toxic wasteland presently known as Central Jersey needs to be dug up and used for fill in one of the deeper cracks at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. This sudden removal of Central Jersey would create a huge recreational lake--so that all the people living in the newly created southern Connecticut would no longer have to risk dangerous encounters with the Northern Alabama/Mississippi/Pine Barren rednecks while stopping for gas on the Parkway on their way to their favorite ocean beach resort.
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The effect of my New Jersey Reapportionment Plan (NJRP) would be to completely remove New Jersey from the road atlas, Senate and House of Representatives, and, most importantly, as a source of nasty ridicule from the citizens of the other remaining 48 states.
This thread could then be closed. 
| By Thedad (Thedad) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:55 am: Edit |
The preceding was brought to you by "Friends of New Jersey." Next week, "Enemies of New Jersey" respond.
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:05 am: Edit |
Ouch. I'm hurt.
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:28 am: Edit |
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:45 am: Edit |
::cries::
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 11:01 pm: Edit |
Beck,
You said you have trees in your backyard... are they alive? What city or area do you live in?
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:49 pm: Edit |
Monmouth county. Some things do manage to grow in this vast toxic wasteland.
| By Distudent108 (Distudent108) on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
<Post deleted for offensive racial language and poster banned.>
| By Nyugrad (Nyugrad) on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 07:39 pm: Edit |
Ah, New Jersey-I guess there are times when it does deserve to be called, "the armpit of the nation." The pungent odor wafting over to New York City does bring a tear to my eye.(literally). Anyway,New Jersey does have many wonderful things to offer (including Princeton).
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 09:18 pm: Edit |
I like the famous New Yorker magazine cover that shows the typical New Yorker's view of the world to the west: he looks west to 8th Avenue and the Hudson River just beyond. Off in the distance there is a vague strip of land called "Jersey" and all that lays beyond that is some place called "L.A." on the distant horizon.
For people who live and work in Manhattan, that is exactly what everything across the river seems like: such is the power of a great city! Real New Yorkers do not own cars--but instead rely on cabs, subways, and an occassional rental car if they need to journey out into the sticks.
| By O71394658 (O71394658) on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 11:57 pm: Edit |
Quote:I like the famous New Yorker magazine cover that shows the typical New Yorker's view of the world to the west: he looks west to 8th Avenue and the Hudson River just beyond. Off in the distance there is a vague strip of land called "Jersey" and all that lays beyond that is some place called "L.A." on the distant horizon.
But, there are good things too. We have the highest salaries in the nation, insurance compaines absolutely hate us, and our education isn't bad, either.
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:14 am: Edit |
Hey...easy on Newark: I was born there.
| By Ariesathena (Ariesathena) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:33 am: Edit |
07:
I drove from MA to Virginia and back a few weeks ago... Jersey drivers are not that bad on the highway, but on back roads, I thought I would die, Volvo or no Volvo. It was like you guys saw the out of state plates and aimed for me. MA drivers are the reverse... I was welcomed back to my home state getting tailgated like mad, highbeams in the rearview mirror, the whole deal - because some 20 mph over the speed limit on a highway was apparently too slow. Most people calm down on the side streets, though.
Traffic in DC is exceptionally terrible... VA and MD drivers are really great, though. We haven't mentioned the NJ Turnpike, though... $0.35 every 5 miles up in the northern end, let's talk about that. Is it so hard to do what MA does, and you get on, get a little ticket, and only pay when you get off? Also, when you go from 78 and want to go to Maplewood, you can't get off the right exit because there's a divider down the middle of the highway... and let me tell you, driving aimlessly in Irvington is no fun.
MA is the second most densely populated state... and I thought RI was the first. Did I get something wrong in there?
| By B0otaful (B0otaful) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:47 am: Edit |
oh please new jersey is the best, which may be a bit bias considering i live in jersey but, we DO have princeton ;D we're the GARDEN STATE people!!
| By Magicdragonfly (Magicdragonfly) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:53 am: Edit |
I used to live on a dairy farm in north north north north north Jersey..Sussex County..the very top of Sussex county..about 5 feet away from a NJ/NY state line
oh gosh..all these people down here (FL) when we moved..would be like 'oh..so your from "joyzie"' and i was always like 'why the heck are you saying it like that?'
And I was *VERY* angry w/ moving to Florida..just think about this..i didn't even get to have high school in Jersey at all..I would have been going to High Point Regional High School if any of you know of it..but I go from this anticipation of going to this amazing school..to..Florida.and..a horrible school :-( blah
*sigh* wish I never had to move
| By Magicdragonfly (Magicdragonfly) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:56 am: Edit |
and on an off note: I don't know how they are now, but when they were younger (EDITED by moderator) daughters were complete brats, as well as a bit on the chubby side..our farm was prolly a bit over a mile down the road from their house (if you could call it a house..i always wanted to go inside b/c it looked so nice from the outside)..we used to go visit their horses..hehe..funny thing..i never knew what he did until I moved
| By Morgantruce (Morgantruce) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 06:22 am: Edit |
Sussex County was always the place other New Jersey people would point to and say, "See how beautiful Sussex county is? New Jersey ain't so bad!"
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:41 am: Edit |
I prefer Monmouth myself. Of course I'm a bit biased...
| By O71394658 (O71394658) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 01:53 pm: Edit |
Monmouth! \m/
| By Techieguy (Techieguy) on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 02:10 pm: Edit |
I live in Bergen County, which is probably one of the richest counties in the nation. The stereotype definitely does not fit Bergen County people. New Jersey was orginally settled by the Dutch and that's where the accent comes from. But I have met no one who talks like that...seriously
Franklin Lakes, Upper Saddle River, Wykoff, that's where all the rich people live. I've seen Phil Simm's house and the whole area is scenic (because they are all spoiled rich people). I think a lot of "retired" celebrities live there.
It's understandable that people peg everyone from Jersey with a stereotype, if you get to know someone the stereotype will disappear.
| By Antithesis (Antithesis) on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 05:12 pm: Edit |
As an article in today's Star Ledger confirmed, I think the plebian image most "outsiders" have of Jersey is due partially to the fact that over 60% of Jerseyans with advanced degrees leave the state.
In regards to cultural diversity, I must defend my home state (which I usally despise...). NJ is actually one of the most culturally diverse states in the nation, due partly to the large immigrant population.
In the end, however, I think we can blame Bruce Springsteen for providing a "working class" stereotype of Jersey to the rest of the country.
| By Hopkinslax (Hopkinslax) on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:30 pm: Edit |
New Jersey is a good state except for drivers insurance. It is crazy... You people out west pay half of what we pay in Jersey...
And Jersey is definately not rural- if you call NJ rural, then what is NY without NYC, Albany...
But i think Jersey is the most densly pop state.
| By T2opine (T2opine) on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:35 pm: Edit |
You know I've lived right across the river from trenton my whole life and I never really knew why everybody hated New Jersey. I know where I live Jersey is seen as not having a lot of class. And even though I absolutely LOVE Bruce Springsteen (saw his philly concert),I also think he sort of made the rest of the country think that Jersey doesn't have anyone in the upper class, which of course isn't true.
| By Antithesis (Antithesis) on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
Anyone who thinks New Jersey lacks an upper-class certainly hasn't been to Deal, Short Hills (even just the mall), or Chatham. Besides, New Jersey is technically the richest state in the nation (per capita).
I really don't know why I'm defending the place, though, considering that I've spent so much energy trying to get out (not applying to one single school in-state).
| By Beck86nj (Beck86nj) on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:50 pm: Edit |
add Rumson to that list.
| By O71394658 (O71394658) on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 07:50 pm: Edit |
Deal. \m/
I live right by there actually.
Too bad I don't live in it. It'd be nice to have my own tennis court and beach.
| By Asndfkas (Asndfkas) on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 03:08 pm: Edit |
Huntsmanhopeful was so right about nj. i want to say that i hate it but it's not so bad
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