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need info on the hometest....

By Hitu (Hitu) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit

rachael.....did u get into cooper union?
if yes..what were ur stats?

By Mgnolia316 (Mgnolia316) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:01 pm: Edit

hello everyone, i got into the cooper unon art school... feel free to im me if u want to chat. MGnolia316 is my sn

By Sleepdeprived (Sleepdeprived) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 10:58 pm: Edit

Hey Mgnolia, are the hometests the same for art and architecture? What is the hometest? How long did it take you to complete?

By Engineergirl (Engineergirl) on Friday, January 02, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit

Do you lose your full-tuition scholarship if you do not maintain a certain GPA?

By Fri3ndlyfire (Fri3ndlyfire) on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 10:23 pm: Edit

friend of mine:
brooklyn tech student, 95 average, hardest curriculum, good ECs (leadership roles), 1350 SAT, 700 SAT II Physics, Math, 650 Writing...admitted ED (with full scholarship, duh)

By It_Lo (It_Lo) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 06:40 pm: Edit

Mgnolia316 - Can you tell me anything about the hometest? Anything at all? I'm a desperate art student -- I need your help.

By Mdx (Mdx) on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 07:34 pm: Edit

They give you six problems to work on. Each of these specified problems require you to draw something.

By Mav (Mav) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 09:17 am: Edit

when do rd decisions arrive?

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 08:38 pm: Edit

I called the admissions office they said we should get them by the first week of april.

could they be more vague?

By Xtrition (Xtrition) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:22 am: Edit

haha true. what did u apply for chuchu?

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:53 pm: Edit

engineering. I really really really hope i get in, otherwise i will be unhappy

By Xtrition (Xtrition) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:45 am: Edit

hey chuchu i dont really remember submitting any essays or any such thing, though i do remember sending letters of reco earlier. they have not even contacted me after i sent the entire package. i'm international and the instructions on their site are pretty haphazard. i didnt realize i needed to apply from within the US. so the dean called to ask me for an address of a family member in the US. do you think they'll consider my app?

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

I'm sorry i really dont ahve any idea. I applied online, and was mailed a series of 15 questions (not really essays) to be answered. I dont think they requested a recommendation from me. I don't relaly know how their admissions department works, but i wish you (and myself) the best of luck

By Xtrition (Xtrition) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:45 pm: Edit

thanks.. u 2.. i doubt i'll get a decision from them though!! so thats one college less!!

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:41 pm: Edit

hey does anyone know the average stats for admitees to the engineering school?

i know the school is difficult to make for anyone.

im sure plenty of ppl with great stats are rejected.

my stats are quite good and i really hope i'm offered a spot.

anyone else apply to engineering, and if so, what are ur stats?

By Frankzovko (Frankzovko) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:31 pm: Edit

I applied for engineering (mechanical, although now that I've thought about it more, I'd much rather do computer).

SAT Verbal: 720
SAT Math: 800
SAT II Writing: 790
SAT II Physics: 780
SAT II Math IIc: 770
Class Rank: 3/180 - 3 AP classes last year, 6 this year

ECs.. not too great.. I just did what interested me instead of trying to fill up my "resume" but I don't regret anything about it.

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 02:10 pm: Edit

I got in!!!! I AM SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
worse scores than Frankz but high nonetheless here.

By Hitu (Hitu) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 02:12 pm: Edit

congrats Winnerpl

How does the acceptance package look?

OMG...now im sooo scared

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 05:13 pm: Edit

lol. To tell you the truth I was worried by the fact that the envolope wasn't as thick as it had been from other schools. So I ripped a corner to find more that one sheet. Turns out there's like 6 sheets, but it does look thin so don't get down by the envolope size. Best of luck, hope to see you there.

BTW I'm in NY so I got it really fast.

By Seeram (Seeram) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 05:54 pm: Edit

does the school of art want good grades, or good talent?

By Seeram (Seeram) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

is there an interview for the school of art

By Hitu (Hitu) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit

Winnerpl..
I have not had much luck with shcools in NY. I got rejected from NYU and Columbia.
Hopefully, I will get in at Cooper,even though I know there is a high posibility I wont.

As of rite now, I may go to either NJIT or Drexel if this does not work out.

Ah, I cant wait for Monday now.

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 07:47 pm: Edit

Winnerpl: a few questions:

1) what school did u apply to? (in cooper)
2) what are your stats?

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:49 pm: Edit

1. School of Engineering.
2. 3.75 GPA (but from Stuyvesant H.S. in NYC), 1400 SAT (650v,750v)
SATII:
Writing: 730
Math IIC: 730
Physics: 770

O yes also an immigrant. I'm so happy, I love this school. Good Luck to all!

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 09:23 pm: Edit

good job. I applied to engineering also, should get my decisions soon enough. if i dont make it ill be very upset

By Hitu (Hitu) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 09:27 pm: Edit

I also applied to engineering, hopefully will make the cut.

Winnerpl:
My stats are similar to urs, a little lower though. And I am also an immigrant.

Where did u move to the US from?

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 11:34 pm: Edit

Poland

By Hitu (Hitu) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 12:44 am: Edit

There are tons of kids from Poland at my school.

By Mahras (Mahras) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 03:05 pm: Edit

Winnerpl, how did you convert your average to a 4.0 scale becasue i thought Stuy graded on the 100 scale.

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:22 pm: Edit

They do. like I figured a 91/92 =3.7, but 1st term senior year i had like a 96, so I am estimating here.

By Seeram (Seeram) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit

so is there a interview for the school of art, and for those who got in, what were ur stats...
what do they look for...

By Hitu (Hitu) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 10:10 pm: Edit

rejected

By Paranoidmonkey (Paranoidmonkey) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit

im getting worried...i still havent heard from cooper & i live in NJ!!

..still waiting patiently

By Willknights (Willknights) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 01:02 am: Edit

The mail came today (well, I guess it was yesterday) and, seeing nothing but junk, I was a bit worried...then about 20 minutes later, a mini-van drove by and dropped off some more mail. Apparently my letter had been delivered to someone else! Having been rejected from MIT and some Ivies, I was ecstatic to learn of my acceptance. I'll be going for Electrical Engineering. I'm about an hour out of NYC, so home will be a quick train ride away.

Someone asked for stats, so...
SAT-1540 (800M/740V)
IIC-800
Physics-780
Writing-710
GPA-3.8 (kept up by math and science--surely that helped)
2/260
ECs are nothing great...math team, french honor society, national honor society

By Nycneedhelp (Nycneedhelp) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 01:58 pm: Edit

ACCEPTED!!!!

Electrical Engineering babyyyyy

Here are my crappy stats lol: (Or you could go to the link in my profile)

SAT: 1350 (740M/610V)
Writing: 660
Chemistry: 680
Math IIC: 770
GPA: 98.4 Weighted
Rank is like 29/370 (School doesnt give rank, just percentile)
EC's - 4 years Track, Math team, open house volunteer, 3 years tutoring, intramurals

AND I'M YELLOW! EAT THAT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION! SUCK IT! SUCK IT! lol


But...I heard social life there sucks a$$...

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

where do u guys live? im in Long Island, NY and i still haven't heard!

By Willknights (Willknights) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:24 pm: Edit

Same here (Kings Park, to be exact). If you don't hear by tomorrow, you might want to contact the school. My letter was post-marked April 2nd. I would assume that all the letters went out at the same time.

By Cama (Cama) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:42 am: Edit

Anyone heard from the school of art? Attended an open house showed my portfolio and received a faculty referral for early decsion. Was not accepted ED but was rolled over to RD and still waiting.

By Paranoidmonkey (Paranoidmonkey) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 01:43 am: Edit

it's already FRI & still nothing! I called admissions today--they told me to be patient even though i live in NJ... this is really strange & i'm really anxious.

what if my app never actually arrived in their office? what if it was misplaced, never to be reviewed???


anyone have advice??!

thanks

By Cama (Cama) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 07:52 am: Edit

Paranoidmonkey you didn't say what school you applied for...art engineering? Anyway I called the school and had them check my name to make sure a decision was sent out. The woman said I should be hearing very soon and that something was sent out. I kinda had to insist that she check cause I had the same concern you had.

By Paranoidmonkey (Paranoidmonkey) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 02:27 pm: Edit

sorry,
I applied for engineering

By Gunsharp (Gunsharp) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 10:53 pm: Edit

Waitlisted

1430(760M/670V)
Math IIC:800
Writing:680
Chem:620
GPA:3.75/4

Nothing outstanding...average EC and stuff

Anyone know the number of waitlist they accept and anyone else out there get waitlisted too?

By Nycneedhelp (Nycneedhelp) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:18 am: Edit

Well my friend and I arent going to Cooper (because Cooper life sucks and its 99% nerds) so there's two people off the waitlist.

P.S: I had much worse stats than you...but I got in. Weird, huh?

By Nycneedhelp (Nycneedhelp) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:24 am: Edit

Anyways, to add on to my above post, I have decided to go to Carnegie Mellon instead. This letter by a Cooper student is the main reason why. He writes:

" Let me tell you a little bit about Cooper Union. Congrats first of all, and secondly, it really depends on where you live, and how much you want to devote your life to study electrical engineering. If your goal is to come to Cooper with a strong background in Electrical Engineering, then Cooper is good. I’m at Cooper because I don’t care about social life and clubs and sports. I just want to get my Chemical Engineering degree, and go to grad school. Companies recognize Cooper Union…at least companies in the NYC area. They know it’s tough, and they’re more inclined to keep an open mind, against someone from like NYU with a higher GPA. I took BC Calculus as a junior and Vector Calculus and Differential Equations as a senior in HS…and I’m still not the best at Cooper. Judging on your high school background, you’ll definitely struggle at Cooper. Freshmen year is supposed to be the easy year, and you don’t even have the classes in high school. Actually, I first wanted to go to Carnegie Mellon, and not Cooper Union. My mother didn’t let me. I live at home. So doesn’t want me to move away, so she made me apply Early Decision to Cooper and I’m bound to it. I’ve come to accept it.
Well at Cooper, you have to really want to go, if you are truly in love with electrical engineering, and willing to struggle through four years then you should come to Cooper Union. It’s very hard here. By graduation, Electrical Engineers have an average GPA of around 3, Chemical Engineers have around 2.7, Mechanical Engineers have around 3.4, and Civil Engineers have around 3.6 The hardest majors are Electrical Engineers and Chemical Engineers. If you come, look forward to no sleep and constant studying. After a bachelors, starting salary ranges from 52K to 57K. Business wise, there is a small group of career fair participants at Cooper. Most of the companies that are looking for interns are in the Civil Engineering field. Chemical Engineers are hard to find, and once in a while, there is an Electrical Engineering company. Only the colleges with bigger names, such as Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, and Cal Tech, have many more companies attending their career fairs. Their companies span farther outwards, while Cooper only attracts companies from the NYC area, since that is the only area that knows of Cooper well.
Grade inflation wise…there is none. Actually, there is grade deflation. I remember a NJIT grad school recruiting officer said that usually, they will consider seniors with a 3.0+ GPA for their grad school. He would see all the jaws of the seniors drop, because no one has that high. And then he would say, “Oh, but from Cooper, we would probably accept 2.8+”
Social life - There isn't any, or there is a pathetic attempt at a social life, but it’s pretty pathetic. We don’t' have a campus, and when people hang out, its usually studying together. If you're going to Cooper, you must be a nerd. If you’re not, you may not fit in. The non-nerds...they're like...an extremely small minority and they usually get kicked out because their grades are too low. As an Electrical Engineer, you have to study at least 6 hours a day to keep up with the workload. Cooper's curriculum is a little more demanding than other engineering schools. You typically have 25 hours of classes a week, and expect 30 hours of studying a week. There aren't any good sports teams at cooper. Like I said, there are attempts at a social life. Cooper's basketball team plays other nerd schools like Polytech and schools like that, because nerd schools suck at sports. Polytech beats us too. Cooper has a running club. Another pathetic attempt. I see the running club run around the school on Tuesdays. There are two fraternities. One is called the nerd frat, and the other is just the normal frat. Normal frat guys are on the verge of being kicked out, and the nerd frat guys spend their Thursday nights playing N64.
Money - Cooper is free…tuition. There are other fees. And the books you have to buy, they’re very expensive, and there are some wacko professors who require you to buy books that don’t even print anymore, so you have to buy them used and you have to find someone who has a book from 1960. If you live at home, it’s about $5,000. Dorming costs money. At least $9,000 for the first year, and then they kick you out. So you have to find a place for yourself. And sometimes your roommates force you out. I know some guy, he was so dirty and smelly, that his roommate couldn’t take it anymore and left.
Also, I feel that Cooper’s reputation is on the decline, because in the past two years, many very reputable professors have left to teach at better schools, such as Stanford and MIT. This is because Cooper’s financial crisis has led to many professors not being paid enough. So they are hiring new, very inexperienced professors. Even though they have a financial problem they will not raise tuition. They are devoted to free tuition. They just keep raising “student fees”. When I started Cooper, it was only $325 a semester. Now, it’s $700 a semester.
Since Cooper is so poor, the facilities are very ancient. For example, registration for classes at other colleges is done online. Very convenient, fast, and fair. Registration at Cooper is like a race. It’s an early camp out at the registrar’s office. Next week, I’m going to be waking up at 3AM, and getting to school at 6AM, to sit in front of the registrar’s office, so I can get into the classes I want and need. You hand in a registration card. Cooper is very old. They don’t have new technology. Even my high school had online registration for classes. I remember when I went to the open house; I saw something leaking from a pipe in a chemistry laboratory. That wasn’t so great. In 2007, Cooper will build a new building…If they beg hard enough for a couple billion dollars.
Workload - Cooper is a small school, with a lot of competition within your own classes. Some professors use the bell curve, in the Electrical Engineering major. Most of the professors won’t give D’s. If you fall in the D range, they just fail you, and you fail that class. Then, you pretty much get kicked out, since you can’t continue with the curriculum. Freshman year, I remember taking some Electrical Engineering classes. I didn’t sleep for several days, working on some projects. I went to school 7 days a week to do schoolwork. Now, I go to school 6 days a week to do schoolwork and I go to work 1 day a week. People who try to lead a fun or sociable life at Cooper often find themselves on the verge of being kicked out.
At Cooper, there is hard work and a lot of it .You can expect exams weekly, since you have 8 or 9 different classes a week. Some professors’ homework assignments are ridiculous. I remember last semester, my professor said, “Homework this week, Chapters 1 and 2, all questions.” I look in the book, and it’s over 200 questions for the week. And throughout the whole semester, he assigned EVERY single problem in the book. And many people didn’t do it. I tried. I stayed up four days straight doing them, and I still didn’t finish them. I got really sick, because I was taking a lot of caffeine to stay awake. Finally, by the end of the semester, he gave us a final exam. He had three questions on it, and no one finished in two hours. And he said, “See, If you did every question in the book, then you would know how to do them.”, because he took the three questions straight from the book. But because they were like the 100th problem from different chapters, no one got up to it.
This semester, I have a professor who teaches thermodynamics, but his exams aren’t on thermodynamics. People have complained, but you can’t do anything about it, because he is the head of the department. I’ve heard of a professor, who gives quizzes, on the lesson that day. You don’t even have time to study it at home or after class. He just gives you a pop quiz on that lesson, in the last half hour of class. They will not answer your questions if you don’t understand. They just degrade you. Anyway, good luck with whatever college you choose. I have to go and study…I have too many exams. Adios."

By Gunsharp (Gunsharp) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 02:50 pm: Edit

Ouch.....is this Cooper Union student being serious...
But this is pretty scary though, it's putting pretty big doubts about me going if I get in off the waitlist.

And thanks to nycneedhelp for the input.

By Ragozzy (Ragozzy) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 12:33 am: Edit

HEY! i got in!!!! yeah, my dream college in my dream city! well, as the letter over here, dont believe him, thats his opinion, for sure he is a pesimist. You make what YOU want from Cooper Union. Sure it is hard, cause they prepare you well for life. It is excellent, i saw it a month ago and it is the closest to perfect that you could get. Well, i am so exited to go! i really want to know other people that are going to CU or to the NYC area. Feel free to email me ragozzy@yahoo.com AIM ragozzy
And, by the way, i am going to the school of architecture!

By Shadow_Wolf (Shadow_Wolf) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:54 pm: Edit

Wow...I got in to Cooper Union too (Electrical Engineering major), but after reading that letter I'm having serious doubts...=\ I hope that person was just having a bad day and exaggerating all the bad points...

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 08:22 pm: Edit

I don't think we should let one post discourage us from attending a really prestigous school.

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:16 pm: Edit

hey i just found out that i got into cooper union! (engineering). It turns out the mail got lost and they're resending all the info. They also mentioned that on tues. there is a program for ppl who are thinking about going there. Can anyone here tell me the details? if anyone has the letter handy it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

By Evoke1080 (Evoke1080) on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 07:20 pm: Edit

Hi I’d just like to congratulate those of you who got into Cooper class of 2008. I want to give you a little picture of what cooper is like during freshman year. It’s all core classes, Calculus, General Chem., Engineering Design, Into to Computer Science/ AutoCAD-Drafting, Lit, and Analytic Geometry. This is the first semester core. I’ll go through each class and what you can expect from them. Calculus completely depends on which teacher you have. My prof. gave tests that required you to know everything that was covered in the text, period. His tests were predictable because you always knew they would be hard and that you needed to study everything, there was no “is this going to be covered on the test?” questions. The only thing that he covers that might not be on the tests are proofs, he usually asks for 1 or 2 of maybe 12-18 proofs that he gives in class. He does not curve at all and most people get Cs. Other teachers are more lenient but do not teach nearly as well, meaning unless you naturally work hard or are exceptional at Calculus you might not be prepared for the harder calc courses. General Chemistry is once again all about the teacher you get. My prof was the chemistry departments Orgo chem. teacher, and it showed. Out of 10 class periods we would be lucky to get maybe 2 classes where he teaches what is on the test, the rest of the time he taught esoteric organic chem. stuff that was not on the test and which we couldn’t understand at all. His tests were fair and if you read the book you’d be fine. I don’t feel, however, that I learned as much as I could have in his class if he had taught us general chemistry. Engineering Design is an introduction to the Engineering design process, they do it a little differently every year, I had no problems with the course but the profs do expect you to work and you have to be able to speak inform of people. Programming and Drafting are easy if you know programming. Drafting can be fun or hell. For the first half of the semester you’re hand drafting and for the second half you’re using AutoCAD. You learn stuff really fast although projects can take up to 6 hours a week for both programming and drafting, longer if you don’t know how to program. Literature is normal, the teachers aren’t great but the classes aren’t hell. Analytic Geometry is simply a waste of time. The teachers don’t know how to teach and my prof. took off full credit for any mistake, and since there were only 4 problems on the test making an addition mistake could cost you 25 points. My calc prof. taught our class everything that analytic geometry was supposed to cover in 2 class periods versus Analytic Geometry’s semester worth of classes (15). That’s the first semester.
Second Semester is Calculus II, Physics I, Physical Chemistry, Chem. Lab and Literature II. I have the same professor for Calc II as I did Calc I and it is still a difficult class, all of the same comments apply. Physics is insanity. The lecture teacher is absolutely senile and no one understands what he is doing. There are egregious mistakes on the tests and his lecture are a waste of time, except when he gives us hints on what will be on the test. The recitation teachers are a little better although they can be a little arrogant at times, refusing to do problems to completion. They also cannot explain the concepts all that well. If you did not have a good HS physics class or cannot learn from the text you are in for a very hard class, however, there is a curve, and there better well be considering the average test grade was a 42%. This does not mean there is grade inflation; the average grade is still a “C”. Physical Chemistry is not too bad, though the tests are tough. A “B” is not an unreasonable grade to expect but you have to work for it and an “A” is very hard to get. Chem. lab is also very hard. You’re lab reports will take you the better part of 2 days to do well, I know some people spend less time and their grades reflect it. You have to be concise and you have to say exactly what you mean. Significant Figures count a lot in this class; it is not HS Chem where you can say that you used a 10mL pipette when you meant a 10.00mL pipette. That kind of mistake is BIG in this class. You also loose a lot of points for repeating and giving too much information. This is not a report you should save for the night before. Lit II is similar to Lit I.

On Cooper as a whole, you have to be able to put up with a lot of crap. Registration is hell, there is a line at 5 in the morning and you are not guaranteed classes. Some teachers assign tests on the day of registration and if you have a test when registration is scheduled you have to go later, the good news is there is no line. There is no “week off” for studying for finals; in fact my mid terms are 3 weeks before my finals. There are very few amenities including dorms (except for freshmen) so you have to get an apartment for sophomore year. If you can’t survive on your own you should not come to Cooper. There are no health services so if you need medical attention you have to go to the emergency room, not a big deal for some people and a very big deal for others. You must get all of your own food, once again this is a big problem for people who are used to their mom making their lunch. The Business office can be challenging at times since they don’t give you notice that you owe money until it is late and then you get a $100 late fee, they recently gave late fee notices to people who were not delinquent, they can be very rude as well.

After saying all of that, I recommend Cooper highly. It’s challenging but if you’re willing to work hard you can get a lot out of it. You’ll definitely be more independent than you’re brethren at MIT and CMU. NYC is also a lot of fun. If you have any questions you can email me at evoke1080@hotmail.com. I’m a BE student, class of 2007, at Cooper Union with a concentration in biomedical engineering.

By Frankzovko (Frankzovko) on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:23 pm: Edit

For what it's worth, I was accepted to Cooper Union last week - and got this letter today:

Dear Frank:

The Cooper Union has long prided itself on awarding a full tuition scholarship to all of its students. In recent years, however, The College's endowment has failed to meet the full cost of educating its students.

To help The Cooper Union maintain the high quality of its academic programs, entering students are now required to apply for all external scholarships for which they are eligible. Thus, New York State residents must apply for TAP, and all students must make an effort to apply for any outside tuition scholarships for which they are eligible.

The Cooper Union appreciates your applying for any outside funding that will contribute to the good financial health of The College.

Some students have additional financial need beyond the full-tuition scholarship for the indirect costs of their education (i.e., room and board, books and supplies, etc.). By filing the Free Application for Federal Financial Aid and the CSS Profile Form, such students will be considered for grants, work, and subsidized and unsubsidized loans.

To be eligible for institutional aid, you must have these forms and a copy of your parents' 2003 Federal Tax Return with W-2 forms and schedules attached, on file at the Cooper Union Office of Financial Aid by June 1.

....


Between that, what I've heard from people that go there about the insane workload and the fact that there are classes ending 8-9 PM when I'd be commuting, among other things.. it's gone from my top choice to having no chance for me.

By Badstudent (Badstudent) on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit

Evoke1080, thank you alot for ur input.
it would be very helpful if u could answer these few questions.

1. how many hours of studying and HW do u expect nightly/weekly? do u have weekends free to do stuff or is it used to catch up on school work?

2. Is there a minimum gpa that u need to remain a student at CU? and wat would it take to get kicked out?

3. Besides cooking, wat r ur options for meal plans, r CU students able to get meal plans from NYU?

4. If u know, could u plz tell me the avg starting salary that a graduate from CU makes, and how easy is it to get a job. is there alot of recruiting done on campus?

5. Does CU setup internships during the summer or do we have to find them ourselves?

6. How are the students at CU? r they willing to help one another or is it more like they only look out for themselves?

any input would be appreciated. thank you

By Winnerpl (Winnerpl) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:25 am: Edit

Frankzovko that letter does not meanthat you'll have to pay extra for CU. I mean the scholarship has already been granted to you. They just want to provide more aid for those who really need it. Plus what's wrong with them asking us to apply for outside scholarships. I mean is that too much to ask from a school that's giving you so much?

I do have one question though. Can I still switch to other program of the engineering school, ie. from mechanical to electrical or vice-versa.

By Frankzovko (Frankzovko) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:05 pm: Edit

Winnerpl - I'm aware of that.. I'm just saying that it's another sign that things are not going so well there.. I'm not trying to persuade anyone, just want to make information known.

By Evoke1080 (Evoke1080) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit

To answer your questions,
1. although it varies from night to night, you can expect to study 3 hours for every hour of class time in each course. Those who do well at cooper spend a good portion of their weekend studying/ working on projects. Sundays are usually spent doing lab reports or lit papers or studying for a test on Monday. I usually have Friday nights free and Saturday to have fun, unless Midterms of finals start the next week.
2. I believe you need a 2.0 GPA to stay at cooper, It night be higher for EEs
3. I believe you can get a meal plan from NYU but I don’t know anyone who does it. I don’t think there is a cafeteria close enough to cooper to make it really practical. There are 2 places to get lunch in cooper, there’s Frankie’s Kitchen in the Hewitt building and in the Wollman lounge in the Engineering Building there’s a place you can pick up a sandwich. Bother places are very reasonably prices and they have food that’s better than dinning hall food. Considering the myriad of choices around cooper for good restaurants I doubt that you’d want to eat at NYU. There are cheap restaurants around cooper and the dorms have kitchens, but be warned there are no ovens, only stovetops, so get a big toast-r-oven.
4. I have no idea how much Cooper Graduates make, but it varies depending on major. A lot of people go on to graduate school. Those who go into business, law or medicine will make more money. Engineering is not a job that normally makes people rich. There is recruiting done on campus. It seems quite extensive for a school with such a small population.
5. The Career Services office had a list of internships you can apply for, but you can also apply for National Science Foundation internships, though they are VERY competitive. If you’re willing to intern for free there are more options.
6. It varies but to do well at cooper you either have to lock yourself in a room for four years or get a study group together. Most people choose the study group. I have never heard of anyone sabotaging another student’s project unlike some other institute of technology in Massachusetts.

Badstudent, did you get accepted to cooper? There is more info on the cooper website http://www.cooper.edu.

By Evoke1080 (Evoke1080) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit

winnwepl,

You need a 3.5 to switch into EE. Check the website for more info. Switching into other programs is easier. You can always switch into the general engineering program

By Badstudent (Badstudent) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 10:15 pm: Edit

Evoke1080, no i got waitlisted. but after that first post from that other guy i was getting scared and was going to unlist my name. but u clarified alot and i thank you for that.

By Shadow_Wolf (Shadow_Wolf) on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:16 am: Edit

Does anyone know if Cooper has a wireless network in the dorm or engineering buildings?

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 03:11 pm: Edit

what did you guys think of the open house? (engineering). I was quite impressed with the students who gave the tours. I think there's a very good chance I will register to attend next fall.

By Beero1000 (Beero1000) on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 10:50 pm: Edit

im goin to cooper next year. chuchutrayne, what major?

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

B.S in engineering you?

By Xtremelydangero (Xtremelydangero) on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:14 pm: Edit

does anyone know abt the transfer req/chances to transfer to cooper union, i have applied for the fall term

By Beero1000 (Beero1000) on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 06:19 pm: Edit

engineering also - im thinking mechanical

By Cooperkid (Cooperkid) on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:57 pm: Edit

I did not give NYCNEEDHELP permission to post up our conversation. Also, he cut and paste it so that it is all about the bad stuff. I did mention good things about Cooper Union and I think just because I told him that he isn't prepared for Cooper, he wants other people to not go to Cooper.

By Chuchutrayne (Chuchutrayne) on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 12:28 am: Edit

hey could u please post the whole convo?

thanks cooperkid!

By Toblin (Toblin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:00 pm: Edit

CU is an awesome school CU's Arch. and Eng. grads are much sought after. (Don't know about the Art grads).

But bare in mind, while CU charges no tuition, other yearly expenses, i.e., room, board, fees and books will amount to about $20K a year. (You’ll be living in downtown Manhattan remember). And this figure does not include transportation and spending money.

That’s certainly something to think about. (I got the $20K figure from CU's website).

By Taxguy (Taxguy) on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 10:20 am: Edit

I was looking at Cooper Union for my daughter,but I have two questions:

1. For the art program, Do you need as high SATs?

2. How good is the art program?

By Cama (Cama) on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit

Taxguy... It's me again. I applied to Cooper for art but didn't get in even though when my portfolio was reviewed I got a faculty referred application. You need a dynamite port.( which I was told I had) and then you also have to do a great job on the home test. I guess the home test is what brought me down. Anyway at Cooper you can't major in one particular field of art but rather you can concentrate in a select few. They do stress that they are interested in traingntire artist instead of
career specific. I was a litte concerned about

that since I do not want to be a starving artist.


Someone I know just graduated from there and sonce he wasn't prepared for a career he is going to grad school so he can teach. That being said it does have a great rep for the fine arts and is a good deal. They are having some financial difficulties though. Only granteed housing for one year as with Parsons too. Has your D started working on her portfolio Yet? For any of these schools you need a really strong fone arts portfolio.

By Cama (Cama) on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit

Please excuse typos...computer is jumping

By Beero1000 (Beero1000) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit

people should have gotten the dorming packets already. where are you? im in 6b

By Wackipaki (Wackipaki) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 12:45 am: Edit

got into cooper union's electrical engineering program. i am considering it but i havn't decided whether i would like to go thr or not.
I have also been accepted to,
RPI ( Biomedical engineering )
Penn state ( electrical engineering )
George Washington University ( engineering )
SUNY Stony Brook ( engineering )

I was seriously considering GWU before i got my decision from Cooper Union. anyone who also got admitted for electrical enginering at Cooper and is considering it..
.im (aol)me at wackipaki1

By Beero1000 (Beero1000) on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 01:00 am: Edit

sorry but the deadline for response was may 1 wasnt it

By Xtremelydangero (Xtremelydangero) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 03:01 pm: Edit

hi

i have been admitted to cooper as a transfer student.

is there any1 who is admitted as a transfer, i wanna knw more abt cooper, its reputation etc.

also does copper offer classes in the summer.

cheers

By Taxguy (Taxguy) on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 02:32 pm: Edit

Hi Cama, she is only going into her Junior year and has a few art projects. She is going to Syracuse Pre-colleg program this summer to help develop a portfolio, plus will be taking AP studio art too. She also has next summer to develop a portfolio too and will probably attend an art school pre-college program.

By Cama (Cama) on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit

Taxguy haven't seen you around these threads lately. Sounds like your D is on her way. Does she still think she wants computer graphics? D will be graduating in a week and is on her way to Pratt this fall. Will keep you posted.

By Taxguy (Taxguy) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 10:05 am: Edit

Cama, Frankly, she is too young to know exactly what she wants yet. Her inclination is for Graphic Design or Advertising art. I will be VERY interested in seeing your daughter's impressions of Pratt after she has been there a while.

By Acissleon (Acissleon) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

Dear Folks:
I am extremely intrigued to find a network like this online. I am also a student developing portfolio work to get into the infamous art dep. of Cooper Union. So far, I've attended two portfolio reviews, the first resulting with a "do more work" assignment and the second producing a "medium expansion" to-do list. I haven't applied to that many colleges, and so I don't know if these are polite ways to say "no" or not. I've talked to a couple of people about this story and gotten different responses. However I would be interested to know what any of you think, especially current art students there.
Thank you!
Jessica

By Cuspidor (Cuspidor) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 04:19 pm: Edit

Anybody planning to apply as transfer this year? this post is dead....

By Casablanca (Casablanca) on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit

I really want to apply as a fresman. Can someone help me out and evaluate my statS?