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According to a news story this morning, San Diego State is going to accept only 6,000 to 7,000 students this year --- out of over 44,000 applications they've received. That works out to a 14% acceptance rate at SDSU this year --- comparable to UC Berkeley and not much higher than Harvard!!!

By Dstark (Dstark) on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit

Carolyn, was the news story in print. I would love to read it. San Diego State, at those numbers, has more apps than UCLA.

By Dstark (Dstark) on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:52 pm: Edit

Found the article. San Diego State applications, up 50% in 2 years. Amazing. I know the article states SDSU will accept only 6,000 to 7,000 applicants, but that is the open spots. The school will probably accept 15,000 since not all students will go. SDSU is probably benefiting because no matter how much it costs to go there, it is way cheaper than almost everywhere else.

By Mexor (Mexor) on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 05:41 pm: Edit

Carolyn I gotta say you're way off.
Using facts from like 2 years ago:

Total applicants who are accepted: 50%
Total of accepted students who enroll: 26%

Enrollment: 27,345.
If 44,000 people applied * .14 accepted *.26 enroll = 1601 Students

So unless SDSU is planning on there enrollment down to 6,000 total kids (The size of USD), I don't think thats true. Or unless 100% of the applicatants go they'll have the normal 6,000 kids (which I doubt!)

If 44,000 people applied and .5 (50% were accepted) * .26 general enrollment rate = 5,720 students.

That makes a little more sense, maybe there will be a higher enrollment rate, but it will probably be in the low 30% tile.

In AP Stat we always look how fake articles are that use statistics. They always make the article favor their point of view.

For example, USD says in there viewbook "There were 7,000 applicants to fill the class of 1,000" ..a true statement, making you THINK the acceptance rate is 14% ..But reallistically the acceptance rate is in the high 40%s, but they need to accept more than 1,000, because the enrollment rate is never 100% ..not even at Standford, Harvard, etc

Blah blah blah, I better get into San Diego State, I applied there

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 08:03 pm: Edit

Mexor - Dstark is right - they are limiting total enrollment of freshman to 6000 - not accepting 6000. Sorry for the mis-understanding. And, yes, they did receive 44,000 applications but as Dstark pointed out they will probably accept about 15,000 of those in order to get their class filled so I was way off in the way I put it. Sorry!

But if the Union-Tribune article was correct in stating that SDSU had received 44,000 applications this year, that is an enormous jump over last year (they received 29,000, accepted 15,774) so their percentage accepted will still fall this year.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 08:10 pm: Edit

Mexor - Dstark is right - they are limiting total enrollment of freshman to 6000 - not accepting 6000. Sorry for the mis-understanding. And, yes, they did receive 44,000 applications but as Dstark pointed out they will probably accept about 15,000 of those in order to get their class filled so I was way off in the way I put it. Sorry!

But if the Union-Tribune article was correct in stating that SDSU had received 44,000 applications this year, that is an enormous jump over last year (they received 29,000, accepted 15,774) so their percentage accepted will still fall this year.

By Dstark (Dstark) on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 11:01 pm: Edit

Acceptance rates below many UC's. Average GPA's rising. Now if average test scores go up...

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 11:08 am: Edit

I found my copy of the original article (for some reason I can't access my UT account online). Here's the quote about SDSU:

"SDSU one of the most crowded universities in the 23-campus system, will limit its applicant pool and accept 6,000 yo 7,000 students.

The demand for higher education rises in bad financial times and the demand for SDSU has never been higher, said SDSU President Weber. Despite the shortened application period that campuses havfe been using to keep enrollment down, San Diego State received more than 44,000 applications for next fall's academic year.

"That's 44,000 folks circling the airport for maybe 6,000 or 7,000 open spaces," said Weber, who said the university would have to raise the enrollment standards to handle the crush."

Anyhow, as Mexor pointed out - the article (and I) got it wrong - they will not be accepting 6,000 or 7,000 students but that will be the number of new students who enroll in the fall. But, 44,000 applications is still a huge jump from previous years. Let's assume they will offer acceptances to 15,000 which is comparable to previous years - That brings the SDSU acceptance rate down to 34%, an amazing number, comparable to places like Tufts, Vassar, etc..

By Dstark (Dstark) on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 12:39 pm: Edit

Carolyn, what kind of shape is SDSU in, both physically, and class size wise? If I went there, would I think "beautiful campus"? How are the dorms? It isn't a safety for potential UC goers anymore, is it?

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:22 pm: Edit

I did my MBA at SDSU so I speak from experience.

The campus is quite nice - it's relatively compact and they have built some beautiful new buildings in the past few years. There aren't many green areas on campus so it has a somewhat urban feel to it. The library,however, is excellent.

Class sizes are definitely a problem at SDSU - don't let anyone tell you differently. Due to the budget cuts, the adminstration has been very open about how they are planning to enlarge already large classes. In fact, they have turned at least one gymnasium into a "super classroom" that can hold something like 600 students in order to cut down on costs. Another on-going problem at SDSU is difficulty getting into classes - especially in impacted majors like business and communications.
This can be exasperating at times and is the main reason why only a small percentage manage to graduate from SDSU in 4 years - they just can't get their requirements done in less time. The honors program is reputed to be better about getting students into classes. However, I was recently startled to see that USNews says only 7% of students graduate in 4 years!

Housing gets mixed reviews - since SDSU is so heavily a commuter school, the dorms tend to not be a priority of the administration and so are not always in the best of shape. (In fact, there's one dorm that has a recurring mold problem that is pretty bad). But they aren't all that bad compared to places like UCSD. Most people move off campus or into Greek houses after freshman year.

From my experience, SDSU is the type of school where you have to be very pro-active about your education. There are some exceptional teachers and excellent facilities but you have to go after them yourself. No one will hand them to you easily. Overall, I was pretty satisfied with the education I got at SDSU as a graduate student but I'm not sure I'd be thrilled if either of my kids had it as their first choice school.

By Theak (Theak) on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 05:52 am: Edit

Yes, I will update the info on SDSU from a freshman perspective.

This was my safety school, and although I never planned on attending SDSU, I had no other choice.

The University itself, is very crowded, classes are a little different however, the mandatory classes, are very overcrowded, and SDSU has created a program, where by graduate students teach the mandatory undergraduate classes.

The school, has always been underconstruction, however, they are currently undergoing their biggest endeavor, 'a trolley station.'

The station is a three part process.
A New Cement Bridge instead of the former almost wooden one. - Completed in Late 2003

The Green, or the grassy area above the trolley station.
- To be completed in Late 2004

And the Trolley Station Itself.
- To be completed in 2005

This project, without a doubt, makes the school look horrible, and given the amount of people who actually use the trolley, this endevour seems pointless.

Its main reason for being, is to compete with the parking problem, which is, out of 7 parking structures, there is not enough parking, although 108 dollar semester parking permits are required.

Although the 'trolley project' will greatly change the school for the better, visually. (in late 2005) The school has done nothing for the classes, which use outdated desks, chalkboards and air conditioners (or lack there of.)

The schools only attempt at classroom changes, was changing a former gymnasium into a classroom, for 600+ students. Yes a gym....now a classroom.

But this is of course, just one view of the school, I am sure there are many others, with more positive outlooks, but for my money, I simply wished, I had applied to more universities.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:33 pm: Edit

Theak, I sympathize with your frustrations - SDSU has its ups and downs, doesn't it? But, you sound like the type of student who will make ANY school work out for themselves --- best of luck to you!

By Dstark (Dstark) on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:10 am: Edit

Thanks Carolyn and Theak. If the problems were fixed, I have a feeling my son would want to go there.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

Dstark - Don't automatically reject SDSU. It isn't a BAD school - I'd certainly consider it over some of the other cal states. I think many of the problems at SDSU are ones you will encounter at the other popular cal states (chico, fullerton, Long Beach) so I wouldn't discourage your son from at least taking a look if he's going to focus on cal states.

By Pimpmike (Pimpmike) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit

There is no way SDSU can be harder than most UC's. I know for a fact the idiots from my HS that went to state and those of us that went to UC's. The difference in GPA and courses taken in HS, SAT's, and everything else is dramatic.

By Pimpmike (Pimpmike) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 07:30 pm: Edit

The reason SDSU has more apps is because theres more ppl with a below 4.0 GPA and ppl taking non AP classes in HS than people who are. If you look at the GPA's,difficulty of classes of UCLA, UCSD, Berkeley your going to see a huge difference. I laugh when people think they are smart and say hey man "I've taken college algebra" because if they were smart, they'd realize its the same as in High School but in college because they failed it in High School. Most people at UC schools usually start in 2nd quarter Calculus since most took AP Calc AB in high school. I remember visiting state and people asking me to help them with Pre-calc math and I couldn't cuz I took that class as a sophmore in high school. But then, SDSU is fun and hot girls are everywhere.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 12:29 am: Edit

"I know for a fact the idiots from my HS that went to state and those of us that went to UC's"

So you were all idiots huh?! Mike i've got a plan, stop bad mouthing my future educational institute. The fact is, SDSU is getting more competitive every year.

By Pimpmike (Pimpmike) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 07:13 am: Edit

Competitive compared to what? Well, if SDSU gets out of 4th tier to top 50, give me a call then.

By Acp123 (Acp123) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit

whatever, "pimpkimke" i had a 3.5 in high school, took honors classes, an did well on my sat's and i am going to sd state...so dont give me that "idiots" bull...

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 05:21 pm: Edit

Yeah, about 3/4 of the kids from my school going down to San Diego have taken Calculus in high school. I wouldn't quite call them idiots.

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:47 pm: Edit

Anybody with the name pimpmike is a dumbass as far as I'm concerned. lol

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:59 pm: Edit

Ahh how cute, the SDSU kids think they are smart with a 3.5 GPA OMG!!!!!!! Man, considering UCSD students had well over a 4.0 and didn't take honors classes b/c we were busy taking AP's instead.

And 3/4 have taken calculus in HS, don't you mean Pre-Calculus aka a class most UC students took as sophmores. Cuz most of us took AP Calc not some dumbed down version for you losers.

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 12:04 am: Edit

SDsurf69 = idiot.


It's not even worth a rebuttal more detailed than that.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 02:14 am: Edit

Flyguy...pretty much summed it up for me.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 02:24 am: Edit

Sdsurf69, letting your insecurities about your college choice come out tonight are we? i'm sorry that UCSD isn't much fun.

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 02:58 am: Edit

Well see when I make six figures and your still doing that Disc Jockey job till your 30 because no one reputable wants to hire you.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:10 am: Edit

Haha okay hun, people at SDSU are much better looking than at UCSD....and statistics have shown that good looking white males make more money than average looking males. Sorry to have to be the one to tell you....
Also, i personally beleive that the college years are supposed to be the best of your life and you should live it up. I would choose SDSU over UCSD in a heartbeat because at SDSU, you get a great education as well as a fun social life. But at UCSD, you just get.....the reputation. SDSU really is on the rise and i honestly dont know why you are lashing out at SDSU kids...do you have some jealousy issues that need to be dealt with?

another thing-whats wrong with being a disc jockey? that seems like a pretty cool job that a lot of people dream of

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:15 am: Edit

Whats wrong with being a disc jockey? thats what i've been aspiring to be my whole life. The same goes for everyone else who has gone to and graduated from San Diego State. For instance, speilberg was bound to be a disc jockey, the founder of costco, disc jockey, the founder of Chili's, disc jockey, the founder of Jack N The Box, disc jockey...need I go on?

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 04:58 am: Edit

What makes you think your better looking than me? And I'm sure that a majority of Harvard's or Upenn graduate admission is based on looks. This isn't Legally Blonde here.

Well, if you want to be a corporate CEO or work in investment banking, I'm sure a DJ looks "great" on your application.

SDSU may be rising, but its no where near the elite. It may seem challenging to you, but thats probably due to your lack of intelligence that you perceive it as being "hard".


Like Mike said, untill SDSU is ranked on same page as all the other UC's aka Top 50 nationally and isn't fourth tier anymore, I'll give it respect. So maybe next year, SDSU should try being a third tier school.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier4/t4natudoc_brief.php


I mean even USD is ranked 99th overall NATIONALLY. UCSD is 31st NATIONALLY while SDSU is 3 pages below.


These are the true stats and they don't lie.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 09:08 am: Edit

I still think theres something wrong with you if you continue to feel the need to try to put down people going to another school. It shows that your're pompous, immature, and quite a jerk. but hey-maybe those are the qualities your future employers are looking for. Good luck with that!!!!!! I'm sure with your attitude that you will lead a very successful and (most importantly) happy life.

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 09:59 am: Edit

I know a graduate from SDSU who is friends with a parents who makes a 6 figure salary. Majored in business.

So don't give me that crap that only UCSD grads will be making the big bucks.

It's not where you go that determines your future, but what you do while you're there.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 01:50 pm: Edit

hey i've got a plan once you're a corporate executive making 7 figures, then you can speak, until then don't try and make yourself feel better by putting down a good school and insulting my intelligence.

US News stats, are a bunch of bunk, in my mind. Luckily you're not my job interviewer, and if you were i'd walk out the door right away.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:01 pm: Edit

What's all this talk about money anyways...who cares if your making 8 figures or like 4? If you truly enjoy getting up each day to go to work....and are honestly happy.....thats all that matters. I know its corny.., but its my personal little mantra

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:02 pm: Edit

Well if you want a job with Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Merill Lynch in New York in investment backing or corporate finance you pretty much have to go to an East Coast IVY league school because they recruit there. In fact, my friend who interns for Goldman Sach and goes to NYU says they won't look at you in your not going to Columbia, NYU, Upenn, Yale, Harvard, Cornell, etc.... and if you graduated from SDSU they would immediately toss your application out the window.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:03 pm: Edit

I know totally. I'm not really aspiring to be the CEO of a company as long as I can make a reasonable living as a day trader on the west coast and surf, i'll be happy.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:05 pm: Edit

Hey that's funny, i've got an internship lined up for me this summer at Citigroup! My soccer coach is a VP there. Yeah dude there is no way i'd want to work in New York anyways or on the east coast to that matter.

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit

4 figures means your in the poverty line making minamum wage. That's hardly living if you don't even have health insurance because we all know McDonald's provides that. But hey if your happy being under the poverty line, more power to ya.

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit

Ever read Liar's Poker, why plan if you can't play with the big boys. Why be making thousands when you can be making millions. That's what motivates me, is being "the {post edited by moderator}knowing that you dominate a market by buying or selling billions or dollars of bonds or equity in just a matter of seconds.

Sdsurf69,please be civil about other people's choices. There is nothing to be gained by being nasty and petty. Your attitude needs adjusting.| - moderator Skyhawk

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:12 pm: Edit

i meant why "play" instead of plan

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Right. Okay....number one, I'm not even going to SDSU...I plan on going to UCSB. I am just a spectator that is a bit amused by your ranting and insults of a school you apparently want nothing to do with...yet we find you one of the most avid posters on this thread (?). Although i got into other UC's, i would still pick SDSU as a second choice if i hadn't gotten in to UCSB. I plan to go to medical school one day and am very confident that i will be well above the poverty line. Also...i have no desire whatsoever to be working with any of those groups you described. I consider myself a humanitarian and unlike you, i completed my community service for the love of what i was doing, instead of trying to look good on some stupid application. Money is not all that important to me. I am secure in that i will always have money because of my parents, but i will not base my life on the desire to make as much money as possible. You only got one life to live buddy....do u really want to waste it trying to become some unliked dominator? I suggest you make some social skills before heading off to college, but perhaps you arent interested in having any friends at all? I think you should go on like a retreat and try to like become a better person.
Another thing-why anyone wants to one day be referred to as the "big swinging dick" is beyond me...

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

by the way kevin...why did u leave yesterday??

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

Brit, good points.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 04:51 pm: Edit

SDsurf69 I think we're different in that fact I value people more than I value money..

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 06:47 pm: Edit

SDsurf69 got served.

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:39 am: Edit

I have plenty of social skills, I assure you. Any PIKE does (pi kappa alpha). And the term "big Swingin Dick" comes from the book Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis in reference to the Traders at Saloman Brothers in the 1980's when the dominated and had a monopoly of the Mortage bonds.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 02:51 am: Edit

Ohhh wow you're in a fraternity....that makes you SOOO cool!!! I can't imagine how social of a fraternity it is if it is full of people like you. You guys just HAVE to be the most popular frat on campus! Do you seriously want to like be this "dominator" guy and ruin people's lives if you make them go broke?

Another thing-you were saying that the job u want in the future wants ivy league graduates...yet you go to a "lowly" UC..how will that play out?

you know what? i think im over it.....i hope you get over all this stuff and try to forget about money and enjoy the remainder of your life.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:49 am: Edit

I guess when you grow up around money, you realize its not all that important in the scheme of things. I mean, the other day, we had these guys working on our house, blasting tunes and this one guy yelled how much he loved his job. However, on the other end of the spectrum you've got an investment banker who is rich, but hating his life (read the book Monkey Business by Rolfe and Troob).

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 04:33 am: Edit

Lowly UC's are better than even lowlier state schools, at least we are top 50.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit

Yeah well what i meant is that you talk down to state schools...but dont you think the IVY league people think they are much better than you? The comparison of a UC to SDSU is quite similar to an ivy to a UC. Perhaps they have the maturity to not express it as freely as you choose to. Seriously grow up and why dont you post on whatever you school you want to go to? There is absolutely no reason for you to be posting in this thread if you dont have any suggestions or nice comments for the future students. Dont you realize that you are only making yourself look like an ass to all the people who are reading your comments...the only reason people would view this thread is if they are interested in this school, and are considering because they (like us) think it is a great school with a lot to offer towards the college experience. Didnt your parents teach you that old saying "if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all"? Tact and manners hun

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:23 pm: Edit

Having information is more essential than where you get your education. Information = money. Were you post edited by moderatorin the market short selling Martha Stewart thirty seconds after her court case decision. In any case, let's stop clogging up the SDSU forum, people are probably trying to get information about the school and would rather not read all our bantering, you can IM me at the screen name that is provided in my info, if you want to continue this discussion.
Careful Savedbythebell - language like that can get you banned as you well know. moderator Skyhawk

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:24 pm: Edit

Well if you really didn't like what I have to say, why don't you just ignore it.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:26 pm: Edit

agh youre missing the point...are you like obsessed with this thread or something?? why dont you just leave.....(in a virtual thread kinda way)

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 09:18 pm: Edit

My god, it's hopeless Brit.

His last three posts have shown that he has nothing meaningful to respond with.

He kinda lost..yea

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:13 pm: Edit

Well I'm gonna be nice....Good policy!

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By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:15 pm: Edit

BTW, i'm slightly drunk

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:50 am: Edit

'Atta boy! you're my new hero-stay drunk!

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:07 am: Edit

it's 8:15 west coast time at UCSD, party time. Get drunk and go on CC, what a blast.

By Britbrat8604 (Britbrat8604) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 11:50 am: Edit

Well he could have posted before he went out. I think hes trying to make an effort, kevin

By Kattie (Kattie) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:44 am: Edit

Note to all idiots in thread (SFSURF69 & Pimpmike) Statistics show that where you go to college doesn't make much, if any of a difference in salary in the long run. And yes that was reported in TIME magazine, which I'd think is more prestigious than US News. "An Ivy League diploma is worth about 5 seconds in the real world." quoth a Yale graduate.

Where you went to college might garner you your first job but with a personality like that, you won't stay there long. And having a solid resume with good job experience is more viable than even a Harvard diploma hanging on your wall.

So you can take your college elitism and shove it up where the sun don't shine because with an attitude like that, you put the UC system to shame for accepting obtuse bigots such as you two.

Anyways, to get this thread back on track, besides the over crowded classes and poor 4 year graduating rate, any other problems with SDSU? Did anyone regret going there? How is the dorm life (besides the mold).

By Sdsurf69 (Sdsurf69) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:57 am: Edit

Watch it my friend, banning awaits you should you repeat this kind of vulgarity.

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By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:25 pm: Edit

This thread is now closed as the mood here has become too nasty. Now let's play nice elsewhere, shall we?

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