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Those that have received appointments have a deadline to answer yay or nay. Does anyone here know the deadline?

By Connieh (Connieh) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 08:59 pm: Edit

I have received this info from another. Thanks!

By Bkozy (Bkozy) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 09:40 pm: Edit

Is it 5-1-04? That is what I heard from someone.

By Connieh (Connieh) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:13 pm: Edit

Hi Bkozy,
I have been sent several answers. One was May 1st as you wrote. My son is on the National Waiting List so I was wondering when those already given an appointment had to answer....of course, I want some to say no so my son can move up the list! Ha! Oh my, this waiting is agony. I am a believer that all things happen the way they should so a yes, a YES would be hugely appreciated but a no means he's meant for something else. But!! I have never seen a young man So ARMY in all my life! Ok.....my Dad might have been more but my son...my second son...is an extremely close second! :-)
Connie

By Daveb700 (Daveb700) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:37 pm: Edit

On 20 November 2003, my son's conditional offer of admission (proffered 16 September)was withdrawn because of medical disqualification. Now that his disqualification has been resolved (he is now fully qualified), is there a reason why the offer of admission should not be reinstated?

By Connieh (Connieh) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 11:30 pm: Edit

Whoa....great question. I'm going to copy and paste to another forum and see if I can find an answer for you! Hang in there!

By Lamom (Lamom) on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 11:58 pm: Edit

How difficult is it to resolve medical? Friend's son received congratulation letter this weekend. He needs medical waiver for eyesight. Mom says he is concentrating on physical requirements and will follow up w/medical later. Mom is not sure if son really wants to be in. Sometimes she thinks he just applied to see if he could get in, sometimes she thinks he was afraid to let everyone know how much he really wanted to attend.

By Daveb700 (Daveb700) on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 05:32 am: Edit

How difficult is it to resolve medical?

Our situation: Family physician considered every case of bronchitis to be 'asthma,' stated on the DODMERB form that his 'last attack' was in 2001. To rebut the disqualification, we had the Doctor give a detailed review of our son's medical record (not actually treated for asthma since age 11), and confirmed no asthma with an allergist. Then had a flight surgeon in the NJ National Guard provide an endorsement cover letter.

Bottom line is we were able to demonstrate that the condition did not exist. Not sure what success you may have convincing them that an actual condition could be ignored.

By Connieh (Connieh) on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 07:33 am: Edit

Hi Daveb700,
I asked your question at the other forum and was politely told that my doing so was not proper etiquette for that group. I hoped someone there would/could help you.
The only thing I can suggest now is to call W.P.
Good Luck!

By Connieh (Connieh) on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 05:43 pm: Edit

Hi Daveb700,
I have an answer for you that I will cut and paste here:

"The circumstances keep changing. Once a Letter of Assurance is withdrawn, it is rarely reinstated as later in the process they have made other assurances and have filled their quota. There are no sure things until you become fully qualified and then receive an appointment and then it is conditional on acceptance and remaining fully qualified through R-day."

Listen, if it doesn't happen this year for your son tell him...Encourage him, I should say, to try again. My son most likely will if he doesn't make it this year.

By Stillwaiting (Stillwaiting) on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 07:14 am: Edit

Does DoDMERB accept your docotor's/specialist's medical exam as being aok.....or can DoDMERB still say 'no' on a mediacl waiver even though your own doctor ssays you are medically fine....who has the final word that a former medical question is now aok?

By Jae (Jae) on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 04:25 pm: Edit

I thought that you had to see whomever DodMERB lists as the clinic/med. facility and that seeing one's own doctor was not acceptable. As far as the final word on a medical question, DodMERB has the final word. It's up to them to decide who is medically qualified. It doesn't hurt to write DodMERB and include a letter from your doctor stating you are AOK. I had a similar situation where I had to be retested on something because a nurse practioner made a "bad" call, so DodMERB told me to take a different test and I did and passed with flying colors. I did let them know the situation with the diagnosis and that I never had a problem before. Also, I gave my family physicians phone # in case they wanted to check into it further. Well, within 2 weeks, I received my "Qualified" letter. Don't give up!

By Kbrk (Kbrk) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 10:27 pm: Edit

Good Job Jae!
I checked it out since ARMY applied me. Anyway, you wanna go to the ring dance in a few years even if I did have a broken ankle?

By Hooah424 (Hooah424) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:58 am: Edit

Does anyone know when the notifications from USMAPS are sent out?

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 10:49 pm: Edit

I'm on the National Waiting List right now for USMA. I read at www.west-point.org that few, if any are accepted from this list. But a pamphlet I got from USMA said that several hundred are accepted each year (This sounds like a slightly inflated average to me). I was wondering if anyone knows if being on the list you have a decent shot of getting in or is it pretty unlikely. If it affects anything, my Regional liason officer told me that I was, "very, very high" on the list.

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

About how many people are placed on the National Waiting list initially- does anyone have a ballpark figure?

By Nyminute (Nyminute) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 04:26 pm: Edit

My son is also on the National Waiting List. He received a letter from USMA indicating his status and that several hundred candidates would receive appointments from the list this year. Not sure how many are on the list.

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

There are 857 people on the list this year. I talked to my regional liason officer again. He told me that the last two years haven't been friendly to those on the list. 2002 only 40 got in off the list. Last year no one did. But he thinks that might be wash off from 9-11, and thus he can't say how many they expect this year, it might be none, or it could be in the hundreds.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:30 pm: Edit

If they already know who is on the waiting list, does that mean they have accepted everyone for the class of 2008, or is there still a possibility of getting in?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 08:20 pm: Edit

Hi, I seem to be in the same boat as a lot of people on this board. I was placed on the National Waiting List and have every other box checked off( med qual, nom, I think I have a high WCS score). My situation is as follows-I have an appointment to another service academy, but would really like to go to USMA . I have heard from my MALO that this year is one of the worst in a long time for candidates accepting offers of admission( i.e. they are getting offers but have either turned them down or are sitting on them). He said that in my state 16 appointments have been offered but only 3 have accepted( that was when I talked to him 3 weeks ago). Can any one substantiate that there has been a low acceptance rate of offers of admission? Has anyone heard or gotten an inkling of what someones chances are of getting in from the waiting list? Hope I am not being repetitive, thanks for the help.
Chris

By Cadet7613 (Cadet7613) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:26 pm: Edit

I don't know what the exact chances are but I do know that when they say several hundred are admitted from the waiting list each year, they are not kidding around. A lot of people are hearing from other colleges(Yale,Harvard,MIT), or deciding that maybe this isn't the life for them so they are waiting till last minute or backing out. If you are a strong candidate you have a good chance. But you may have to wait a while...they say that some don't know until right before R Day. You may have to cancel your backup schools but if you want it that bad you'll have to wait. BTW what academy did u recive an appointment to?...if you got into one for then you'll probably have a good chance to get into USMA.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 12:14 am: Edit

Well my story is a bit strange and tragic. My appointment was to USMMA (kings point. I actually was supposed to go there last year (class of 2007) but I blew out my knee a couple of weeks before reporting. I had chosen USMMA over USAFA, U. of Southern Cal, USD, VMI, and some other great schools. My original plan was to go to USNA last year, but for several reasons( 2 of those reasons being two recruited athletes coming from my high school) I just did not swing it. I did have the USMMA appointment and was actually very pleased with it so it really devesated me when I hurt my leg. I went to a large state school in the meantime and did Army ROTC- And I loved it. Everything- rucking, shooting, and especially the leadership. So I put in an app to WP, got a 4.0, and a nomination from ROTC. I thought I had a damn good chance of getting the USMA app. , but then called the admissions office and the SW region admissions officer kinda rubbed me the wrong way by saying ON THE PHONE I had no chance of getting in. I was thrown for a loop but then found out that I was on the waiting list, and now I really do not know what to think. I am happy about Kings Point( there a probably some people on this board who are thinking that KP is a joke, but its not and I used to think the same think till I went and if you run into probs with USMA always remember you can get commisioned into any branch from USMMA so keep it as a backup). I will got to KP and be totally happy, but I have really grown fond of USMA and would be totally stoked to get into it. I guess like everyone else I just want to know where I stand. So, Cadet7613 did you also hear that many are not accepting offers of admission( I was told most likely bc of the war) or have you heard anything like that? Has anyone else heard any info about the waiting list? If we all pool are heads together and try to gather some intel( by calling malos or admissions office) then mabye we could get a better hold of what our chances our.

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

My Regional says that they are aiming to accept 1,160 this year. Exactly 80% of the 1,450 offers they sent out. I found this kind of strange because last year they had such a high acceptance rate, it seems that they aren't even considering that it could happen again. So what I'm saying is I think that USMA is sure that they are going to have a lower acceptance rate than last year, probably much lower, and this in turn means quite a few could get in off the Waiting List. But this is of course speculation.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:40 pm: Edit

Yeah, My Malo has said that the acceptance rate has been really low. What did you "Exactly 80% of the 1,450 offers they sent out" that only 80% have accepted or have not accepted? But it seems like you have also heard that the acceptance rate of offers is low, and I do think that is good for us who are on the waiting list.

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 02:28 am: Edit

I wasn't trying to say that 80% was the number who had accepted or hadn't. All I was saying is that 1,160 is 80% of 1,450, it struck me as odd, a perfect 80%, so it probably has some meaning. Does that mean that is what USMA is expecting to get this year in acceptances, is that the average acceptance rate on offers, or is this just some number they pulled out of nowhere. I was throwing that out to see if anyone knows. Thus far I have heard no number on who has accepted or who hasn't, I'm going to ask my Liason officer too, and she what she thinks.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

Sorry, I understand now what you were saying. I think that they just threw the 80% out there as a figure. From what my MALO said the acceptance rate seems to be well below 80%, so they must have arbitrarily gotten that figure.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 08:47 pm: Edit

Does West Point have to send you some sort of response by mid April?

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 10:18 pm: Edit

I don't think so. I was under the impression that offers of admission to those on the waiting list occurred as others declined- right up to R-Day. As for percentiles and chances, until the deadlines are past, it's all just wild speculation. Those of you on the NWL just keep praying you're near the top of the list! Hang in there!

By Cdb (Cdb) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:16 am: Edit

Yeah, I heard that they can pretty much tell you whenever they want( but it would at least have to be a week before R-Day just for logistical purposes). I just wish I could find out what the raw numbers are this year but to do so is like breaking into the Kremlin during the 1950's- you gotta be James Bond or something. I am really hoping something will happen and I guess everyone else on this board is just like me- a combination of worried, hopeful, and most of all unsure of what our chances our. Wish it was as easy to find out about your chances at getting into an Academy as it is to find out about civvie schools. Good Luck and Gods Speed to all.

By Admiralgrygo (Admiralgrygo) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 12:36 am: Edit

I am also currently on the waiting list at West Point, and I talked to my admissions counselor. He told me that there are like 737 on the Waiting List right now, and I am somewhere within the top 200. The letter they sent me said they accept several hundered each year from the list, and I had a friend last year (class of 2007) that got in late April from the waiting list. My admissions counselor says that it doesn't look that good for me though. I don't know what to think.

By Cadet7613 (Cadet7613) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 10:01 am: Edit

I am just curious to know some of the things about the people on the wait list... Sat Scores PAE Scores etc....are you from really tough districts or are you just not very highly qualified? Best of luck to everyone.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 08:23 pm: Edit

Hey Admiral, I feel you and I do not think that anyone knows what to think. Cadet7613, I think that I should have a strong file ( 4.0 college gpa at a good 4 year school, lots and lots of ECs with leadership positions in them all, and a 3 sport athlete( not an athlete in the sense that I am good enough to get recruited though). My nom was from my college ROTC detachment though, and I heard service connected noms are harder to get appointments from. This is also my second time around. I think that the waiting list is a mixed bag, some risks and some great kids- just depending on that admissions year. I have heard, as it seems others have on this board, that the acceptance rate of offers are low and that is good for all of us on the waiting list. Anyone else heard or gotten some inside info on the situation of acceptance rates of offers and how the class is panning out?

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 09:05 pm: Edit

The "tough district" angle might have more to do with it than most think. Several years ago (April), we visited the AFA with our son. During the briefing we were told they were still looking for qualified candidates to fill the slots for Vermont, while they had an overabundance of highly qualified people from Colorado being wait-listed. I would assume just the opposite might be true at West Point. And wouldn't congressional districts near Army posts be more competitive than usual? Any thoughts?

By Cadet7613 (Cadet7613) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 11:48 pm: Edit

Yes Vermont and other areas near West Point are very competitive. In many districts u need 1400+ 4.0 varsity athelete captain or club pres however I know people from the west coast with 1250-1350 3.7 and little leadership who got into West Point.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 08:24 pm: Edit

For those of you that have been accepted... does West Point send you like a workout schedule of things you should be able to do or specify in anyway what you are expected to be able to do at minimum when you get there?

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit

I know there is a physical test, called the PFT. And there is the Indoor Obstacle Course Test. I'll give you the link I have, but it's a pdf so it might take some of you awhile to load. It says what you have to do on the tests, i.e. the mins., the points you get for 60 push-ups, etc. http://www.usma.edu/dpe/testing/BOOK2004.pdf

By Cadet7613 (Cadet7613) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 07:13 pm: Edit

Yes, West Point sent me a workout schedule. It basically said to practice distance running till you get up to like 3 miles at roughly 8 min/mile pace. I don't remember if they said anything about push ups and what not but they couldn't hurt. They also said to start drinking water to pre hydrate yourself before you get there. I don't really remember what it said(put it aside b/c I'm a distance runner), but I do know that running is the most important preparation.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

Anyone heard anything new? I just talked to my MALO and he said that in my state 9 have accpeted offers, 2 have declined, and 12 have not responded. I take this to be good news for those on the waiting list because those 12 that have not responded are not likely to since the offers have been out since Jan/Feb. If half of them did accept this would still only yield an acceptance of appointment rate of only 65% which is well below the 80% the Academy is shooting for. Anyone heard otherwise about NWL chances or got any intel on the current accepatance of offers rates?

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 03:55 pm: Edit

Did your liason officer say that they start making offers immediately as people decline or do they wait while?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

No he didn't. That is a good question though. I must think that they have a little cusion of time till May 1st, so they might go back and review others files and make choices off of that. From what I can speculate though, after May 1st they have to start and "go down the list" by merit because they do not have time since the class has to be filled. Any one else know anything.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Did you ever receive a letter saying that you were on the waiting list? I only found out when I asked my liason officer.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 11:12 am: Edit

Yeah, I got a letter that told me around the 25 of March. I bet you will get one if you MALO told you that you are on the NWL. I just wish I had an idea of where I am on it. I think that us poor fellows on the NWL will probably find out after May 1st, because that is when those who have offers have to accept by and if they do not accept by the 1st then their offers are void. Lets hope alot of them do not accept for our sakes.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 05:10 pm: Edit

Just wanted to say that it is only 4 days till May 1st, when all the appointees have to accept their appointments. Hope not alot do for the sake of all of us on the waiting list.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 04:19 pm: Edit

I still haven't gotten a letter saying I am officially on the Waiting List, which I think is kind of wierd but my Liason Officer says I am on it. I wish I knew where I stand on the list too.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 07:54 pm: Edit

Here is my latest intel brief for all us cadet wannabes. In my state, the acceptace rate is hovering at around 60%-70%, well below what the academy would want. The appointees have to accept today, if they do not then their offers are withdrawn. From talking to my MALO, it seems as if the academy is getting a little worried about the low accepatance of offers and they are feeling a time crunch to fill the class. This could( not for sure) help us out. I am still worried because my nom is service connected, and I am worried those have higher acceptance rates. I am just hoping I will get an offer. Now, everyone else on this board needs to start calling their MALOs and regional dir. and get a feel for what is going on. Come back and post what you hear and lets see if we can pool our efforts to get a better understanding of what our chances our. Good Luck and God's Speed to all.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 09:35 pm: Edit

Did you get an alternate sevice connected nomination, or were you the principal?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:30 am: Edit

No, I got a service connected nom from my ROTC det. As far as I know service connected noms are not "alternate" or "primary" they are all just put on one big list and ranked.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:30 am: Edit

No, I got a service connected nom from my ROTC det. As far as I know service connected noms are not "alternate" or "primary" they are all just put on one big list and ranked.

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:14 am: Edit

Ok I don't know any numbers but from what my Regional said, "You'll know pretty much if you are getting in by May 15th." Because they take a while to deal with the flood of yes/no responses (or no response at all) that comes after May 1st. So don't worry yet, just wait till Mid-May.

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:16 am: Edit

Cdb Does your MALO know that the academy overall is getting low acceptance? "it seems as if the academy is getting a little worried about the low accepatance of offers and they are feeling a time crunch to fill the class." Or is this just your state?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:56 am: Edit

He told me that this was a " very strange year" and that it made him think of the class of 72, a class with such low acceptace rates( because the Tet offensive was right when the kids were accepting) that any qualified candidate was offered and appointment. So yes, he has told me that the acceptance rates have been low this year, and I have gotten the feel that they are low enough to make the academy sweat a little. What is your feeling on it from talking to your MALO?

By Canto129 (Canto129) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:00 pm: Edit

I actually don't have a MALO for whatever reason USMA never assigned one to my area. However I do talk to my Regional and he made it sound as if I'm going to get in because of the acceptance rate. He didn't say that I'd have to wait till May to know or not, he said that I would have to wait till May to get in. So perhaps he was being premature or maybe the numbers at that point made it appear that those on the waiting list were going to get in.

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:13 pm: Edit

Just an observation...Why is a ballpark figure of 65% acceptance rate presented as a bragging point for Air Force Academy (see AFA College Discussion 4/18/04), while practically the same numbers are portrayed as depressingly low figures for West Point? (USMA 4/30, 5/1 above)

Either West Point usually has a much higher acceptance rate than the Air Force OR it's a matter of whether you see the glass half-full or half-empty. Which is it?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:01 pm: Edit

You misunderstand ratchet- not the acceptance of candidates by the academy, but the acceptance rate of offers FROM the academy by candidate. The "acceptance rate" of academies is around 10%, and points to their selectivity. We are talking about a different "acceptance rate" that points out the chances of those who are on the NWL to get in.

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 01:45 am: Edit

No, we are reading from the same page re: the context of "acceptance rate." I guess you have to look at the source...i.e. a USAFA "PR" guy saying a 65%-75% student acceptance rate is high vs. the perspective of the hopeful USMA "wait-listees" for whom a low student acceptance rate could mean good news...Make sense?

How accurate is it to extrapolate what happens in one region (e.g. 65% acceptance rates...) and generalize about the whole? Is this the same message others in different districts are getting?

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 10:03 am: Edit

Okay, are you talking a acceptance rate for USAFA in a particular region? Cause I am guessing at a national rate for USMA. Yeah, I think in a certain region they could vary. But my MALO was telling me that my state's acceptance rate was about the same as the country- eg around 65%-75%. If you talk to the West Point admissions people you can definatly get a sense that the rates are low and they are a little worried. Besides never trust and Air Force guy, they are just civilians in blue( thats just a little joke).

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 05:59 pm: Edit

RE: above. No, national rate. Hey maybe it's just that we USMA supporters have higher standards! Only 100% is good!!!! All I can say is that I hope -for those who are anxiously waiting-that you guys hear some good news soon.

I ran this question by another forum; perhaps someone here knows??? How is participation in Civil Air Patrol viewed on applications? Is it just on par with other activities or is getting up in the ranks of CAP viewed favorably? I now know USAFA looks favorably on CAP (aviation, obviously) but what about USMA?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 06:53 pm: Edit

Yeah, CAP is good to have on a service academy rap. I was the XO for my squadron and a mitchell award winner. I got into two academies last year, on which I was supposed to go to and USAFA Prep ( I count the prep school as basically getting in since it is. I lived in South Denver and was in the most competative district in the nation for USAFA, and I did not even want it that bad( you already know my opinion about the Air Force) but still got the Prep appt. . I also know another guy who was a mitchell award winner but not as strong academically and got the Prep slot and took it up. So, yes CAP does in my opinion help, but make sure you are holding leadership postions and not just "going through the motions". Also do get a high and mighty idea about your CAP service corralating into making you a better cadet at the academy. If someone thinks they are badass for being on drill team in CAP, they will get a sorry reception when they get to an academy. But hey, keep working hard cause that will make the most difference

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 06:54 pm: Edit

Yeah, CAP is good to have on a service academy app. I was the XO for my squadron and a mitchell award winner. I got into two academies last year, on which I was supposed to go to and USAFA Prep ( I count the prep school as basically getting in since it is). I lived in South Denver and was in the most competetive district in the nation for USAFA, and I did not even want it that bad( you already know my opinion about the Air Force) but still got the Prep appt. . I also know another guy who was a mitchell award winner but not as strong academically and got the Prep slot and took it up. So, yes CAP does in my opinion help, but make sure you are holding leadership postions and not just "going through the motions". Also do not get a high and mighty idea about your CAP service corralating into making you a better cadet at the academy. If someone thinks they are badass for being on drill team in CAP, they will get a sorry reception when they get to an academy. But hey, keep working hard cause that will make the most difference

By Cdb (Cdb) on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 06:56 pm: Edit

sorry for the repeat

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

Has anyone heard if people have started getting off of the waiting list.

I talked to my liason officer and he wouldn't give me any details he just said I would have to wait and see.

By Rammer (Rammer) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 09:00 am: Edit

I got a message from my daughter's Admissions counselor and he said that NO ONE on the NWL will get an offer this year.

By Cdb (Cdb) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 10:07 am: Edit

How can you verify this rammer, cause it would be contradictory to what a lot of people on this board have heard? What region are you in? Is this a MALO or a regional? You can't just pop on a board with a bunch of worried kids and crush their hopes without further explanation.

By Rammer (Rammer) on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 02:22 am: Edit

First what is a MALO? He is the Great Lakes Regional Admissions Officer. He said that they sent out letters to everyone on the NWL on Monday. I may call the Director of Admissions on Monday to verify but think that may not be needed because the letters should arrive by then if what he said is correct.

By Meghanmr530 (Meghanmr530) on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 06:13 pm: Edit

Has anyone received a letter?... I did

By Cdb (Cdb) on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 06:34 pm: Edit

Was it a bad one?

By Tlaktan (Tlaktan) on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 07:41 pm: Edit

Rammer: MALO is Military Academy Liaison Officer, last I checked.

By Rammer (Rammer) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:57 am: Edit

Well I have never heard of a MALO. So has anyone gotten the letter? My daughter got her's saying sorry no room at the INN.

By Kimboleek (Kimboleek) on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:58 pm: Edit

Hi everyone, I am going to Westpoint as a member of the class of 2008 and I was wondering if anyone knew a site or place I could get the stuff to memorize ahead of time...you know, the loads of stuff they make you recite during Beast?
Thanks a bunch!

By Ratchet (Ratchet) on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 11:08 am: Edit

BUGLE NOTES is what you're looking for....sold at the Cadet Store....don't know if it's online....

By Kimboleek (Kimboleek) on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 11:54 am: Edit

Thanks Ratchet...I found an online version of Bugle Notes, so you don't have to go buy a book for it! Here's the link...
http://www.west-point.org/academy/malo-wa/inspirations/buglenotes.html


Btw, if you're a member of the class of '08, I'd love to chat with you...my AIM sn is Kimboleek

By Kalabok7 (Kalabok7) on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 12:33 am: Edit

USMA class 2008 whats your AIM sn??? IM me if u want KALABOK7

By Spiegel186 (Spiegel186) on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit

Anyone know how good are grades should be in senior year? I think i'm gonna get like a C, two B's and one A. Is that okay? BTW, my sn is spiegel186, same as above.

By Nomargfan5 (Nomargfan5) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Does anyone know about the swimming test administered during beast?? I'm not the greatest swimming so I've been working hard in the pool but what are the details of the test, i.e. stroke, number of laps, how long, rest? thanks

By Lamom (Lamom) on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit

Friend's son will be class of 2008. I read that you are all studying stuff. Friend is the mother, she says that son says he will learn everything there, that they will teach it to him. Is this correct? The dad says don't stress the boy. The mom did not grow up in the US and the dad is older (second marriage to mail order bride). I'm worried but don't want to worry mom. So whats the deal? are you all just eager or is maybe son not telling parents everything. Son actually told mom not to worry about laundry because they will teach him everything including laundry.

By Lamom (Lamom) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 11:00 am: Edit

Apparently I have offended someone on the board. I have no problem receiving e mails and so I know you can identify me. As a mother we all want the best for our children and as mothers all of my friends talk about how we have help them grow and not influence them too much. We want you to grow as individuals and we have a hard time holding back so we discuss with each other how much we can hang on and how much we must let go.I do live out in the sticks and we have lost the big city life and sophistication. I did not want a child to go out in the big world unprepared if he didn't have to, that is why I asked you, the experts. Your mother is extremely proud of you and has always done her best. I would never do anything to hurt her or say anything she doesn't joke about We all help each other with everything we can, we have had several losses and we are closer than many families. I am deeply sorry if I hurt you, I want only the best for you.

A mom

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit

LaMom, I am sorry that someone has mistook your concern for something else. Hopefully, that person will understand and apologize to you for jumping the gun about your good intentions. Knowing many graduates of the service academies over the years, I know that the ability to admit you've made a mistake is a great asset.