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Hi guys, I'm new to this site. Please evaluate my chances at UMich College of Engineering.

Out-of-state: north suburb of Chicago
Came to the U.S. from Korea 5 years ago --> meaning I learned English for 5 years

*Class Rank/ Test Scores
Class Rank: 37/532 GPA: W-4.12 UW-3.75
SAT 1: 1300 (M740 V560)
SAT 2s: Korean 790, Math IIC 700, Physics 610
Taking IC, IIC, and Chemistry in January
ACT Composite: 28
TOEFL: 267 (UMich minimum req is 250)

*Senior year classes
AP English 1 & 2
AP Calculus BC
AP Physics C
AP Chemistry (Lecture)
AP Chemistry (Lab)
Spanish 3

*Very good teacher recs
*Awesome essays

*ECs, #of years in ()
Soccer (3)
Math Team (2)
Gymnastics (1)
Chess Team (1)
Church Youth Group adviser (4)
Bible Studies (4)
Soccer (4)
Choir (4)
also, tutoring (2)

*Honors and Awards
Church Soccer Leadership Award
National Honor Society
Spanish Honor Society
State Scholar
The Creative Self-Expressed Award
The Scholastic Art & Writing Award

Thank you for evaluating my chances.

By Jinhamasaki (Jinhamasaki) on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 08:46 pm: Edit

UMIch does not look at SAT II's at all, so don't stress too much over that.

Your SAT is a little low for an engineering student. I dunno how much they will consider your recent immigration to your verbal score.

But that shouldn't stop you from trying
Good luck.

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 10:03 pm: Edit

Thanks Jin... I have one correction to my first message - UMich minimum TOEFL req is 230, not 250.

By Peacemakeriv (Peacemakeriv) on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 10:36 pm: Edit

would applying in Jan affect my chances?
SAT I: 1460
II: 800/790/660
TOEFL: 290
GPA: 3.8 UW - hardest course load...
CANADIAN!!!
uhh....applying to engineering....dunno which major

By Jinhamasaki (Jinhamasaki) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 09:46 am: Edit

Check your messages on your topic ;)
Yes, applying late hurts, especially since you are International. Engineering gets REALLY competitive

By Subparasian (Subparasian) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 11:48 am: Edit

Your SAT score and ACT are rather low like Jin said. You might want to consider retaking that instead of your SATIIs. They will probably give you some leverage for only being in the States for 5 years. You may want to try and ask a counselor to write a statement about this, or show them your official documents, or have a teacher include it in his recommendation.

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 03:50 pm: Edit

I see, but I am pretty much done with SAT1 now. I 'hinted' the # of years in my essays but I'm not sure if my counselor/teachers noted that in recs. I gave them statements about me to refer to though. Anyways, thanks for your comments.
One more question: are essays important at all? B/c Mich is a public school and that admission calculator thing (which no longer exists) from last year showed that the essays are not important. I mean, three essays + one optional essay for a public school? I did great b/c mine was modeled after my Stanford essays, so they would definitely help my chances.

By Jinhamasaki (Jinhamasaki) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 05:30 pm: Edit

Supposedly, they made the essays much more important >.>
I sent an optional one too, but I really don't know how much they factor into admission.

By Subparasian (Subparasian) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 05:31 pm: Edit

it's not 4 essays... it's 2 250 word short answer questions and a 1 500 word essay... then there is an optional essay (usually for a resume).

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 12:51 pm: Edit

OK... Few more responses would be nice.

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 11:25 pm: Edit

hehe, Response from a bison----can u tell me your GPA in our schools system- I wanaa get an idea of what my rank is. Other than that, U have a 50-50 chance of getting in, everything in the average range. When did u apply?...i ahve almost similar stats-760m-570v: 3.7, 760'710'680, applied mid NOV and havent heard anything yet.

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

Everyone told me I just need to subtract 1 from my gpa in 5.0 scale, so my weighted becomes 5.12->4.12 and uw 4.75->3.75. I applied around 12/10, which is bad...

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit

hmmm...that makes sense.....and did u get your transcripts sent before holidays...coz i think they do it in batches

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 02:23 pm: Edit

On my UIUC application: it says " deferred, manual review required", do u get the same thing?what does it mean?

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 03:33 pm: Edit

School sent EVERYTHING on 12/10. Is that your result? I don't know what you're talking about...

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 04:29 pm: Edit

Yup, got in to engineering, it took about 5 weeks. Now I can choose from UIUC or Michigan engineering... or Northwestern if I get in. I'm so happy... Good luck to those of you who are still waiting...

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 05:10 pm: Edit

Northwestern, i got into UIUC too!!- waaiting for michigan now

By Becks777 (Becks777) on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 06:21 pm: Edit

Northwestren and everybody else how did u find out u were accpeted: did they sent u an email

By Northwestern9 (Northwestern9) on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 09:54 pm: Edit

I first got an email then I checked the mailbox and the package was there.

By Subparasian (Subparasian) on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 05:14 pm: Edit

I got a big envelope and no e-mail.