|By KewlGurl on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 08:18 pm: Edit|
I've heard the app for Chicago is different than most. And that it's bad. What's so bad about it? Can't I just do a common app?
|By Dave Berry on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 07:03 pm: Edit|
From what I've seen, KG, the biggest difference about Chicago's app lies in the essays. To some, they may seem over the top in their intellectual approach, but that's what UC is essentially about--the pursuit of all things intellectual.
If you're doing a group of applcations for top schools, you may want to do Chicago's first and then try to--carefully--recycle some of their essays for your other apps. Caveat: Most admissions officers at other schools will be able to spot a carelessly adapted Chicago essay, so make sure your intro is tailored to reflect the essay prompt at hand.
As for the Common App, I'm not a big fan, simply because (in my opinion) it doesn't project an aura of outstanding effort on the applicant's part. Hey, you apply to college only once. Why not show your candidate schools that you're willing to go "all the way" with their own college-specific applciation?
I know, I know. Lots of people out there will say that I'm just advocating a lot of needless work for applicants. But my comeback is: If colleges really wanted you to use the Common App, they wouldn't offer their own apps. Right?
In any event, I wish you good fortune with your Chicago app, should you decide to apply, and all your others. Good luck, KG.
|By A Midwestern Dad on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 03:10 pm: Edit|
Dave, I have to disagree with you about 'If colleges really wanted you to use the Common App, they wouldn't offer their own apps.'. 'Their own apps' came first and the 'Common App' came next. It is only a question of time before we go to standard online form for the common stuff. We don't need 4000 different forms.
|By Dave Berry on Sunday, September 09, 2001 - 03:53 pm: Edit|
You may be right, Dad, but I think that day is a long way down the road. Did you ever see the movie "Rollerball" with James Caan? It takes place in the future, where the world's master library is in Geneva. All books have been transferred to electronic format--no more inconvenient paper taking up space.
One day James Caan's character goes to Geneva to do some historical research and finds out that all archives from the 12th Century have "accidentally been deleted." So long 12th Century.
What if the particular Harvard admissions server archiving YOUR "standard online form" bites the dust or is hacked? You might not even know it has been lost until it's too late. If Hotmail can go down or be hacked, can we ever be REALLY sure our data are safe? Hey, I love e-technology; I'm glued to my computer 10 hours every day, but when it comes to big-time college apps, give me those paper ones every time.
|By Dadster on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 08:00 pm: Edit|
I've never processed college applications, but I've reviewed plenty of job applications and resumes. Somehow, undistinguishable gray text never seems quite as real as an application written in a distinctive hand, or even nicely formatted on a computer printer, much less a high quality resume on ivory watermarked bond.
That's not to say that the guy with the fancier resume gets the job - but it sort of falls into that category of subliminal tiebreaker when candidates are more or less equal. Kind of like the guy who shows up looking sharply tailored vs. the guy who looks rumpled. Even when you are purely focused on qualifications, these details can lodge in your perception of the candidates. And what is the selective school admission process, if not choosing between more or less equally qualified applicants?
|By California Mom (Calmom) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 07:49 pm: Edit|
My son did fine with the common apps - he was admitted to all colleges where he used it. ALL his college applications were submitted online, either with the Common App or with other websites that allow electronic submission.
Some colleges required supplementary material which needed be sent separately. Typically there was a "part 2" to the common application form for this supplementary material, but this generally required extra essays or writing samples, which were of course prepared as separate attachments.
Among other applications we saw, at least one college used its own forms and specifically required a handwritten essay. My son definitely did not apply to that one. If he had, I suppose it would have given the adcomm a good laugh. The only one in our family who has legible handwriting is my younger daughter, who has been the designated family form-filler-outer since about age 8.
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