|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 01:37 pm: Edit|
hey guys, ive done this chances thing b4....but didnt get much info.....ill give it another shot
btw, here are some clarifications of the schools on my prstats site:
for upenn, im applying to the huntsman program and wharton
for g-town, im applying to the school of foreign service
and for nyu, im applying to the stern school of business
thnx for your opinion
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 12:41 am: Edit|
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 08:54 pm: Edit|
|By Lavka (Lavka) on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 07:41 am: Edit|
You have a good chances. I'm from former USSR(half-Ukrainian). I'm going to apply to Harvard and Mit, but I heard that there is some discrimination to the former USSR citizens.
|By Yugekorb (Yugekorb) on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit|
You definately have great stats, but you are applying to some of the top programs in the top schools. You have great chances at all three of those and your other schools. I didn't really read your EC's, there's too many. Try to limit it the next time you put it up there, or bold what is important. How come you don't speak Ukranian?
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:53 pm: Edit|
my mom is russian and my dad is from the ukraine (where most people speak russian in addition to ukrainian)...we just speak russian at home...do you truly think that there would be a bias toward former USSR citizens...that sounds a tad bit absurd and illogical, but then again, biases dont necessarily fit logic...watya guys think?
|By Lavka (Lavka) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 01:14 am: Edit|
I don't really sure about it, but I heard many times from my letter friends about such biases.
So, if you will be rejected, don't be sad. This discrimination is eveythere, especially in Universities, where they want to promote only americans. In general, what do you think about american educational system?
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 02:44 am: Edit|
well....i am an american citizen, so maybe i will encounter less problems than the average international (especially russian) applicant faces......i think the american educational system is AWFUL on the elementary, middle, and high school level...nevertheless, from wat i have seen, it is amazing on the college level....i go to a school probably in the best 10% of the schools in the nation, still i feel totally unchallenged....there are about 3 people in the school that i respect intellectualy...honestly, i think i abuse and misuse my talents because i am not as motivated as i could be (i am a person motivated by competition - not necessarily the unfriendly kind either).....but yea, enough of my tangent, i think that the american school system is not too good because it focsus on memorization and regurgitation rather than true understanding (i swear, every single kid (but me) in my AP classes writes down EVERY word the teacher says - whether the student knows the info already or not)...i think this is crazy....
|By Lavka (Lavka) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 03:21 am: Edit|
I agree with you. I think that at the school level American educational system is absolutely imperfect. But the true Americans call these my thoughts "idiotic generalizations"(to see this conversation go to "Ivy league schools >> Harvard >> Foreign?"). What do you think about a great role of the personal qualities in admission process? I think, college should search for true scholars, not athletes, atrists, singers and so on. Have you ever been in Russia or Ukraine? Here universities look only at the school grades and examinations scores. I conseder it's right. I've heard that students in the college study only 3 hours per day. Russians call it "halyava", because here students spend about 8-10 hours at the lessons.
As for your citizenship, perhaps, you're right. But for me these stereotypes are a real problem.
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 01:22 pm: Edit|
i see....i lived in Russia until i was 5....about the studying thing, i think it is ok to NOT study 10000 hours per day; i honestly believe that an individual's growth on the personal level is of greater importance than his growth on an academic level....because of this, i think that colleges should be environments that foster not only quality academic performance, but great personalities as well...i think it is perfectly fine to seek diversity in race, origin, financial status, and interests AS LONG AS those people admitted can handle the academics without much of a problem....i want to go to college mostly because of the people i will meet, not the stuff i will learn in history class or chem class.....i must say, i am intrigued by intellect and other interesting qualities in people, and those qualities are what i expect at the "first tier" schools...i am one of those kids that needs to look at a textbook for an hour to know the whole subject, so i strongly doubt that a professor at rutgers will have a significantly different impact on me than a professor at harvard....for ME, i value non-academic stuff greatly in my college selection process
|By Arangatan (Arangatan) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 04:28 pm: Edit|
I think your chances are great. BUT unlike admissions in Russia, admissions in the US is like 90% random. You should have some more safeties in there. You're basically applying to the best of the best, and while I agree that you are qualified and should be accepted, there is a high chance that you might be rejected.. for whatever weird reason an adcom thinks of.. and just in case.. you should have something to fall back on. I dont see any 100% sure acceptance schools on your list, and i think you're taking more of a risk with your college admissions process than you have to. Also, about the discrimination.. I have never heard of this. You're a US citizen, you've practically grown up here, and the fact that you're an immigrant will not affect admissions in anyway, face it most of the US is composed of immigrants. Also, you sound just a bit arrogant.. and hopefully that wont (or hasnt) come across to your teachers/interviewers.
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 06:47 pm: Edit|
hey arangatan...you are right: u.s. college admissions are VERRRY random...btw, i admit the last post did have some arrogance in it, but that wont come through at all in my app....ill make sure of that....i dont think that i will be discriminated against either....about the safety school stuff, i have ONE sure choice - rutgers....since i am a NJ citizen, i have it ez in rutgers admissions, plus i qualify for a full scholarship (not rooming and board though) at Rutgers...i know i will be happy at Rutgers, so i dont think that i need more "safety" schools...again, thanks for your response
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 11:35 am: Edit|
ny1 else have an opinion on my chances?
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 07:57 pm: Edit|
|By Elinkamalinka (Elinkamalinka) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 08:00 am: Edit|
hey, russian girl over here! w00t! well, stats look really good. I don't think you'll get into huntsman program but you'll definitely be fine for georgetown and nyu! g-luck!
|By Nngmm (Nngmm) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 12:21 pm: Edit|
I think Arangatan got it all covered. You may want to look into some LACs (Swarthmore, Amherest) if you are looking for intellectual community. I think being multi-cultural and multi-lingual can only help you. Good luck!
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 04:59 pm: Edit|
o, thanks...i think that i will stick to the schools that i decided on for now....hopefully i wont even have to apply anywhere other than penn....thanks for the feedback guys...later
|By Greenstorm (Greenstorm) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:23 pm: Edit|
I think you have a good chanse to all the universities you're will be applying. You have a good SATs and strong ECs. Good luck!
|By Omalleyspet33 (Omalleyspet33) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 02:54 pm: Edit|
Sorry to latch on but the board wont let me create my own conversation
Hey im a senior at an extremely competitive private school in RI,
My schools are:
Georgetown SFS (legacy) EA
Brown Stanford Dartmouth Penn Tufts BC (legacy) Columbia
My stats:Caucasian Middle class male
Sat: 1470 V:750 M:720
Sat 2: Math IC:770 Us. HIstory: 780 German: 630(retaking)
AP's Us.HIstory:5 English Literature:4
Gpa: cumulative around a 3.85-3.9 i switched schools and moved junior year and my gpa went from 4.1 to 3.7
RAnk: School doesnt rank class size around 80
Classes Senior YEar:
AP Calc BC
English (no honors offered)
2hist electives (No AP HIst offered for seniors)
EC's: GErman Club 9,10,
Amnesty International 9,10,11,12
Model U.N 11,12
Math Fellows (Head):11,12 (a selective math tutoring program founded at my school in my junior year I am the first head)
Tennis 9,10 Varsity 11,12,Debate 9,11
German National Honor Soceity 10,11,12
Ping Pong League 11,12
Outside of sChool: Nslc: International Diplomacy
Took CHinese 1 At Georgetown over junior year summer 50 hours community service
Towson University School of CHinese in 10th grade
1st honors all four years of high school and i won an award for german national exam 10,11 won the german achievement award at my school.
I know im reaching but please tell me if you think i have a chance at any of these colleges and it would be great if you could rate my chances for each school. Thanks alot
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 12:30 am: Edit|
hmm....i think you have a very good chance...but SFS is VERY selective...ur stats are similar to a friend of mines that got in...so good luck!
(i dont mind u leachin on btw)
|By Laxfan85 (Laxfan85) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:20 am: Edit|
Another Russian here... stats look good
I don't know what Lavka means when he says that there is discrimination against the former USSR countries...
Certainly, that might be the widely upheld opinion back home, but I do not believe it is practised at institutions such as Harvard and co.
|By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:56 am: Edit|
yea....i agree with you laxfan...i think if anything it will HELP me by making me stand out...i have a different cultural background and a different language under my belt, and for colleges, that is attractive....maybe for INTL students from russia, it is a disadvantage to be russian, but for immigrants, nahhh.....
|By Greenstorm (Greenstorm) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:29 am: Edit|
You're right about your richer cultural background, it's useful for you, because you're already American. Yes, it's advantage. But I mean that all international studenta are in disadvantage, i.e. are discriminated in some manner, especially Russians, to which there are many biases.
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