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I have a buddy of mine who keeps on insisting that athletes get extreme leeway.. as in getting into Duke with 950 SAT I score.

He is ranked top in our province in Steeplechase of Track and Field.

His class rank is around the top 30% and his GPA is 3.2

He has no extra-cirricular activities whatsoever except Track (no volunteering)

He keeps on insisting he could get a scholarship to Duke

He is a rising Junior, does he have a good chance at Duke?

By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:05 am: Edit

hahaha

By Patito12 (Patito12) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:15 am: Edit

unless his name was Lebron James, and you meant to post this about year ago, dont count on it...
otherwise he must be DAMN good at track.

By Sokkermom (Sokkermom) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 08:27 am: Edit

If your buddy is a male, he will not get a scholarship for track at Duke. They do not have any scholarship $ for track. I am pretty sure they do not "lower" their standards to allow someone to attend Duke who has a 950 SAT! I know someone who is starting this year and will be running track there. (His SAT score was over 1500, and he had a very high GPA in an extremely competitive high school, and lots of other activities.)

By Justice (Justice) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:49 am: Edit

Haha no way. He'd have to be going to Beijing2008 to be good enough. Rankings in state/province mean absolutely nothing when the guy is not able to compete on a national/international level but expects the athletics to be a hook.

What are his times?

By 3togo (3togo) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 10:24 am: Edit

and here is the real catch ... virtually no one runs the steeplechase in HS (at least in the US) so that ranking doesn't mean a whole lot. If your friend is going to get a track scholarship to a division I school in the US he had better be one of the best 100 or so milers or 2-milers in North America. If he is he can go lots of places on a track scholarship ... even then I doubt Duke with a 950 SAT.

By Rogracer (Rogracer) on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 05:02 pm: Edit

If you think athlete's don't get a break...here are the SAT averages from a few years ago of Div 1A football programs...basketball programs are even worse, IIRC....

Rank School
Conf.
Div
Football

1
Stanford Pac 10
IA
1,051

2
Northwestern Big 10
IA
1,037

3
Duke ACC
IA
1,012

4
Vanderbilt SEC
IA
974

5
Rice WAC
IA
969

6
Virginia ACC
IA
933

7
Oregon State Pac 10
IA
930

8
SMU WAC
IA
920

9
Pacific No Mas
IA
917

10
Wake Forest ACC
IA
911

11
Purdue Big 10
IA
901

12
Notre Dame Indep.
IA
899

13
Tulsa WAC
IA
894

14
Bowling Green St. MAC
IA
891

15
UCLA Pac 10
IA
886

16
UC - Berkeley Pac 10
IA
886

17
Western Michigan MAC
IA
884

18
New Mexico WAC
IA
882

19
Kentucky SEC
IA
877

20
Tulane Conf. USA
IA
873

21
Wisconsin Big 10
IA
870

22
Georgia Tech. ACC
IA
868

23
Texas Big 12
IA
868

24
Wyoming WAC
IA
868

25
USC Pac 10
IA
865

26
Ohio University MAC
IA
864

27
Colorado Big 12
IA
863

28
Boston College Big East
IA
862

29
Penn State Big 10
IA
861

30
Colorado State WAC
IA
856

31
North Texas Big West
IA
856

32
Nevada Big West
IA
853

33
Northern Illinois Indep.
IA
853

34
Texas Christian WAC
IA
852

35
Georgia SEC
IA
851

36
West Virginia Big East
IA
850

37
Michigan Big 10
IA
849

38
Miami (OH) MAC
IA
849

39
Maryland ACC
IA
848

40
Indiana Big 10
IA
846

41
Eastern Michigan MAC
IA
845

42
North Carolina St. ACC
IA
843

43
Illinois Big 10
IA
842

44
Central Florida Indep.
IA
841

45
Missouri Big 12
IA
841

46
Idaho Big West
IA
840

47
Iowa Big 10
IA
840

48
Arizona Pac 10
IA
839

49
Minnesota Big 10
IA
839

50
Boise State Big West
IA
838

51
Oregon Pac 10
IA
836

52
Rutgers Big East
IA
835

53
Virginia Tech Big East
IA
835

54
North Carolina ACC
IA
834

55
Washington Pac 10
IA
834

56
Nebraska Big 12
IA
833

57
Utah State Big West
IA
833

58
Texas A&M Big 12
IA
831

59
Syracuse Big East
IA
828

60
Arizona State Pac 10
IA
825

61
Tennessee SEC
IA
824

62
UTEP WAC
IA
824

63
Louisville Conf. USA
IA
824

64
Pitt Big East
IA
823

65
Texas Tech Big 12
IA
822

66
San Jose State WAC
IA
822

67
Florida State ACC
IA
821

68
East Carolina Indep.
IA
818

69
Ohio State Big 10
IA
818

70
Baylor Big 12
IA
817

71
San Diego St. WAC
IA
816

72
South Carolina SEC
IA
815

73
Ball State MAC
IA
815

74
Oklahoma St. Big 12
IA
813

75
Hawaii WAC
IA
812

76
Kent State MAC
IA
811

77
Utah WAC
IA
811

78
Toledo MAC
IA
811

79
Louisiana Tech Indep.
IA
807

80
Miami (FLA) Big East
IA
803

81
Cal State - Fresno WAC
IA
803

82
Central Michigan MAC
IA
803

83
Temple Big Et/A10
IA
801

84
Washington St. Pac 10
IA
798

85
Cincinnati Conf. USA
IA
798

86
Arkansas SEC
IA
796

By 3togo (3togo) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 08:18 am: Edit

> If you think athlete's don't get a break...here are the SAT averages from a few years ago of Div 1A football programs...basketball programs are even worse, IIRC....

true about football and basketball the two revenue producing sports. However, the OP's question was about track ... and while I'd guess track folks catch somewhat of a break (especially if they are in Athens now) I doubt it is anything like the break football and basketball players get.

By Rogracer (Rogracer) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit

>>true about football and basketball the two revenue producing sports. However, the OP's question was about track ... and while I'd guess track folks catch somewhat of a break (especially if they are in Athens now) I doubt it is anything like the break football and basketball players get.<<

Not so sure about that...I seen other indicators that any top-flight athlete is given similar "extra consideration" at admissions time.....I think that is the price of competing in Div 1A.