Interested in transferring to Stern from UMICH....





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By Fissionman (Fissionman) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 02:49 pm: Edit

I have a few questions
1.) Are SAT2s required?
2.) What are the admissions stats? #applied/#accepted
3.) If I didn't have great grades in H.S.(88) or great AP scores, but a great first year of college do I stand a chance?
4.) How many essays are on the Stern app? Is it different from the CAS app?
5.) What are some tips for someone in my situation to maximizre my chances?
6.) How big is the class size?
7.) Are there interviews?

By Fissionman (Fissionman) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit

bump

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 06:29 pm: Edit

What's your GPA at Michigan? That's going to be the most important factor.

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 05:39 am: Edit

At any rate, I don't think Stern accepts transfers. I don't think you can ever trasnfer into NYU in general and then trasnfer to Stern. You really should call NYU and get information. I have attached a link below that takes you to NYU's trasnfer application page.

http://admissions.nyu.edu/appprocess/transfers.php

What I want to know is why do you wish to transfer? After 2 years in one school, most people have settled down, made friends and gotten accustomed to the sdchool they are at. Those who trasnfer to another school never feel that connected to any university because it takes a full 4 years to really develop a connection to a university. I'd understand if you were aiming for a far superior program, but there isn't a far superior BBA program to Michigan's.

By Fissionman (Fissionman) on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 02:15 pm: Edit

I plan on transfering after 1/2 -1 full year not years, Also NYU is the school I want to go to, dur to the city, wall st is close by, greater internship oppourtunities and stern IS a superior program

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

Fissionman, who told you Stern is superior to Michigan? Whoever it is, that is not accurate.

All the rankings suggest that Michigan is just as good as Stern, if not better. I assume you want to work in Investment Banking/Finance. One of the key misconceptions out there is that if you aren't in NYC, Wall Street is out of reach. That is not true. The top 2 Finance departments in the US are Wharton and Chicago, not Columbia and NYU. Obviously that's at the graduate level. At the undergraduate level, the top 3 Finance departments are Wharton, Stern and Michigan. I don't see how #2 Stern can be superior to #3 Michigan, especially when as a Business School (Michigan is #3, Stern is #5) and as a university in general (Michigan is a top 15 university in the nation, NYU is not even a top 30 university in the nation), Michigan is ranked ahead. Actually, according to Business Week and the Wall Street Journall, Stern does not even come close to Michigan and according to corporate recruiters, Michigan is better at producing Finance specialists. According to Business Week, recruiters rank Michigan's MBA program #5 in Finance compared to Stern's #8.

As for internship opportunities again, I have no idea who told you that Stern has more opportunities. Here's a link to the companies who recruit at Michigan:

http://www.bus.umich.edu/StudentCareerServices/RecruitingCompanies.htm

That's not a small list. It includes every major company in the World.

The link below details the companies that took 3 or more interns from our undergraduate program. Keep in mind that Michigan's undergraduate Business school only has 300 students going for internships, so the numbers won't be as lofty as Wharton's (which has over 600 students per class) or Stern's (which has 700 students per class).

http://www.bus.umich.edu/EmploymentProfile/TopHiringCompanies.htm?StudentType=BBAInterns

13 to JP Morgan, 11 to UBS, 8 to Merrill Lynch, 6 to Goldman Sachs, 6 to American Express, 6 to Bear Sterns, 4 to Morgan Stanley, 4 to ABN Amro and 4 to Citigroup. That's 62 (20% of the class) to top financial institutions. You can be sure most students at Michigan don't even focus on Finance. That's impressive.

In short, I hope you think seriously before leaving Michigan for the wrong reasons. If you dislike Ann Arbor and love NYC, then your reasons would be justified. But if you wish to leave because you think Stern is better or because you think you will have better internship opportunties at Stern, look closely and you will see that Stern is no better than Michigan.

At any rate, I don't even think Stern accepts transfers. Better contact them directly to check.


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