Chances at IVYs / Top Schools





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By Aznpmsavenger (Aznpmsavenger) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit

Hey im wondering if anyone might give me a prediction of where i stand for applying to Ivys and other top colleges (stanford, duke etc..) Im going to be a senior, asian-american male.

my stats:

SAT I: 1510 (Verbal 730, Math 780)
SAT II:
Math IIC: 800
World History: 790
Writing: 740
PSAT:211 (Verbal 70, Math 80, Writing 61 (ouch))

GPA: 3.97 unweighted, 4.74 weighted

AP grades: Government 4
World History 5
English Language 4

Senior Sechedule:
AP Literature
AP BC Calculus
AP Statistics
AP Biology
AP Chemisty

School dosent rank students but i assume top 5%

High School Extracurriculars:
Political Forum (11-12)
Philosophy (11-12)
Computers (10-12)
Drama (6-12)
Table Tennis (9-12)
Asian American (9-12)
Chorus (6-12)

350+ hours community service at Hospital, Court, NIH (National Institutes of Health), FDA (Food and Drug Administration)
Summer internship this year at NIH/NIAMS doing new medicine research.

Various awards for science/academics/drama/chorus, although theres nothing too spectacular or noteworthy

I'd appreciate any feedback anyone may have. I think im going to do Early decision to Princeton, wonder if i can get in? Thanks!

By Tinwhisker (Tinwhisker) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 03:32 pm: Edit

These percentages are taken from "The Early Admissions Game" by Christopher Avery. Don't know how accurate they are, should give you a sense. Generally good chances. For a 1500 SAT, top 10%:

Regular Decision
Brown -- 14.7%
Chicago -- 99.7%
Columbia -- 36.8%
Cornell -- 70.4%
Dartmouth -- 70.3%
Duke -- 56.1%
Georgetown -- 71.2%
Harvard -- 8.6%
MIT -- 70.1%
Penn -- 63.2%
Princeton -- 25.5%
Stanford -- 38.2%
Yale -- 21.8%

Early Decision
Brown -- 31.4%
Chicago -- 100%
Columbia -- 91.5%
Cornell -- 89.6%
Dartmouth -- 91.2%
Duke -- 88.6%
Georgetown -- 87.9%
Harvard -- 24.9%
MIT -- 75.4%
Penn -- 94.5%
Princeton -- 86.4%
Stanford -- 61.9%
Yale -- 49.1%

By Bellevueteen (Bellevueteen) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 04:30 pm: Edit

MITs seem pretty high...

By Slipper2002 (Slipper2002) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:46 pm: Edit

And brown seems low..

By Takeheart (Takeheart) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:39 pm: Edit

Those stats were from a few years ago, before Brown switched from open EA to ED, and before Yale switched from ED to EA. So with the passage of time, those stats have become somewhat inaccurate as a whole.

By John123 (John123) on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:56 pm: Edit

I like that calculator.

Could you possibly do that for a 1420 SAT?

By Aznpmsavenger (Aznpmsavenger) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:05 am: Edit

those stats seem a bit too good to be true, 86.4 percent for princeton? wow. But hey thanks for the posts

By Tinwhisker (Tinwhisker) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit

You're welcome.

These statistics are from the 1999-2000 Admissions cycle, so I do think many of these numbers will be significantly lower. However, in general, probably a 50/50 chance or slighly better at all except for HYPS. MIT is more stat-oriented than many of these other universities (and the OP has excellent stats), but I do think its percentages are high.

By 80drofnats (80drofnats) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Those statistics are less than reliable, they're not from the full data, they're just small sample groups, plus the fact that colleges take a lot of special interest cases in the early round screws with the numbers. Where are you from? It makes a big difference, especially ED. I'd say your stats put put you somewhere between the second and fourth deciles of the early pool at Princeton, and your EC's are solid but don't stand out. I would say you have about a 40% ED at princeton, and 80% chance ED at Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Penn, and even Columbia, but at any of those schools during the RD round your chances drop to 40-50%. Its a gamble applying early slightly over your head, but it could pay off and you get in, or you could be like a kid i know with your same SAT score and similar EC's who applied to a reach (yale) early and didn't get in there, then got bitched at every other ivy except Cornell.

By Aznpmsavenger (Aznpmsavenger) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 08:17 pm: Edit

a scary story indeed

By Newt (Newt) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 08:59 pm: Edit

80drofnats, what are you saying, that the other schools rejected him because he applied to Yale first? That doesn't sound reasonable.

By 80drofnats (80drofnats) on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit

no, that you only have one Early chance, and it is a big advantage over regular decision, and that he would have gotten in ED at columbia, dartmouth, Brown, etc

By Firebird12637 (Firebird12637) on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 12:22 am: Edit

yea, the MIT figures are definitely too high...being asian male doesnt help, either...among your schools, Princeton ED is definitely a good choice for increasing your chances

btw, I'm an asian male, too, and for all practical purposes we have identical stats...so, good luck w/ ur apps!

By Aznpmsavenger (Aznpmsavenger) on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 06:11 pm: Edit

lol thanks and good luck to you too! asian pride.


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