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By Travisp (Travisp) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:56 pm: Edit

I really really really really really really dislike liberal people, so what are the top conservative university's?

By Culovv (Culovv) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:01 pm: Edit

reed college.

By Collegeparent (Collegeparent) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:08 pm: Edit

Now, that's funny!!

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:16 pm: Edit

Ignore Culovv. For more conservative students, try:
Wheaton College in Illinois
Furman University in South Carolina
Rhodes College in Tenn.
Washington & Lee in Virginia
Stetson U in Florida
Rollins in Florida
Vanderbilt U Tenn
Wake Forest NC
Hillsdale College MI
Baylor U Texas
Southern Methodist University Texas
U of Richmond in Virginia
Pepperdine in California
Brigham Young University in Utah
Creighton in Nebraska

And, you might want to stay away from:
UC Berkeley , UCLA, most Ivy universities, Reed, Wesleyan, Smith, Wellsley, U of Oregon, U of Michigan, U of Wisconsin, Georgetown, Oberlin, Pitzer, Pomona, Lewis & Clark, Vassar, Swarthmore, among others...

By Mike2004 (Mike2004) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Washington & Lee

By Scigeekgirl88 (Scigeekgirl88) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Rather than that, why don't you just go to a college where you're accepted... True, you should avoid Oberlin (especially), UC Berkeley, and UCLA, but you should get over it and learn to accept people no matter if they're liberal, conservative, purple, neon pink...

By Nmoreno1 (Nmoreno1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:33 pm: Edit

Hey, you want conservatives up the wazoo, go to a small Christian college.

you wont find a liberal attitude for millions of miles.

may i recommend Taber, in Kansas.

I must say, you definitly meet the closed-mindness requirement.

then again, i dont think there exists a closed mind or even an open mind for that matter.

By Travisp (Travisp) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

Wake Forest NC sounds nice!
What do you guys think about Washington U. in St. Louis?

By Tsdad (Tsdad) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:02 pm: Edit

Liberty and Bob Jones. My son thinks USC is pretty conservative.

By Jason817 (Jason817) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit

Definately UC Berkeley. I mean, you can't get more conservative than that.

By Sepulchralmoose (Sepulchralmoose) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:17 pm: Edit

I don't know if you've noticed, but the better colleges tend to be very liberal. And they're universities, not university's.

By Xdtish (Xdtish) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:15 pm: Edit

WUSTL is actually pretty liberal, despite its location in ST. LOU, MO. I visited the campus back in the fall, its a very active, left-moderate liberal filled school.

By Xdtish (Xdtish) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:16 pm: Edit

WUSTL is actually pretty liberal, despite its location in ST. LOU, MO. I visited the campus back in the fall, its a very active, left-moderate liberal filled school.

Check out BYU--no one beats out the Moromns

By Alv (Alv) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:34 pm: Edit

Georgetown is pretty conservative. When I went to visit I only saw Bush Chenney Signs. I think there was one Kerry sign. Also, College Republicans is the largest organization on campus.

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:00 pm: Edit

boston college is conservative

By Najy (Najy) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:24 pm: Edit

Notre Dame, right?

By Mels (Mels) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:42 pm: Edit

go for the mormons..byu all the way
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By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:13 pm: Edit

Once again, folks are confusing republican with conservative. Not the same thing at all.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:14 pm: Edit

People also tend to confuse the religious right with conservative. Again, not the same thing.

By Scorp (Scorp) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:39 pm: Edit

Yeah UCB or SFSU are bad choices.

By Matt20861 (Matt20861) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:49 pm: Edit

Shutup noodleman there are subtle differences but they're almost the same thing. Bob Jones is conservative but it also isn't accredited so have fun.

By Socalnick (Socalnick) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:18 am: Edit

mabe service acadamys

By Whitwilson5105 (Whitwilson5105) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:44 am: Edit

yeah...the morons...i mean mormons are conservative...

By U2rules (U2rules) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:07 am: Edit

georgetown and notre dame

dont get better conservative,high quality education than those 2

By Frazzled_One (Frazzled_One) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 08:39 am: Edit

Check out "Choosing the Right College 2004" by Jeremy Beer (with an introduction by William Bennett, yet). I picked it up while browsing at a Barnes & Noble because it offers supposedly "independently" written essays of a fairly detailed nature about the top 100-plus schools.

I didn't realize it had a conservative political agenda until I read the Vanderbilt profile - the guide sternly disapproves of the women's studies classes available. It all but writes off Duke as a hotbed of liberal ideas and is fairly apoplectic about the notion of LESBIAN studies.

Be careful, though - the guide is egregiously wrong in its evaluation of W & M, where my d is a junior , and where I assure you you would not want to wind up because there are too many people whom you'd really really really really etc. dislike.

Or you could always call up some admissions offices and ask if they admit too many people you'd dislike. Let us know how that goes.

By Hsc2008 (Hsc2008) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 08:59 am: Edit

Hampden-Sydney College is very conservative... you have to be the right type of person to go there, but if you fit the discription, you won't have to deal with any liberal bs. for that reason, i'll be there in the fall

By Rachelvish (Rachelvish) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:42 am: Edit

I second Berkeley

By Mr_Magpie (Mr_Magpie) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 02:24 pm: Edit

texas a&m -- i've never seen so many conservatives in one place.

but i second what Scigeekgirl88 said.

By Mzhang23 (Mzhang23) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit

www.liberty.edu

By Sweetie49 (Sweetie49) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

What's wrong with being liberal?

By Stargazrlilychk (Stargazrlilychk) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:09 pm: Edit

nothing, sweetie49, it's just that the majority of colleges tend to be liberal-oriented, so it's sometimes hard for conservative students to find a place that suits them.

By Macadamiamin (Macadamiamin) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit

Nobody has mentioned the US Air force/army/navy/etc schools for being conservative. But I guess that goes without saying.

By Aeg315 (Aeg315) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit

NYU seems like your best bet.......

By Chillinnigerian (Chillinnigerian) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 08:37 pm: Edit

Bob Jones University

By Timmy19th (Timmy19th) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:41 am: Edit

"NYU seems like your best bet......."

I thought NYU was extremely liberal. I know Tisch is fairly liberal.

By Welshie (Welshie) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 02:02 am: Edit

Heh, I got into BYU and Washington and Lee while I'm fairly liberal myself. Go figure.

-Jesse

By Goodchocolate (Goodchocolate) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:24 am: Edit

Travisp, we should talk. :)

I'm only slighty Republican (since I'm apathetic toward abortions and I'm irreligious), but I'd definately consider myself very conservative -- many people mistakenly think both go hand-and-hand.

I'm planning on majoring in biology and then going on to graduate school, so a good research school is vital. Finding one that's not religious oriented and has a conservative student body has been impossible so far...

I know Vanderbilt (TN) and James Madison (VA) are conservative schools, but would they fit my needs?

Also, is the University of Tulsa a conservative school? My assumption would be that it is, given that it's in Oklahomea, and its low price, western location, great research opportunities, and great scholarships attract me.

Is there any other suitable schools for me?

Sorry if it looks like I'm hijacking your thread travisp, but I'm sure the choices they offer me will also benefit you.

By Goodchocolate (Goodchocolate) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:56 am: Edit

I also saw Creighton on here -- does that seem like a "fit" for me, too?

I'm aware Creighton and the University of Tulsa maintain a religious orientation, but there's many non-religious people at Creighton, and even more so at the University of Tulsa.

By Amarsn (Amarsn) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:08 am: Edit

Bob Jones, Cedarville, Wheaton College, Abilene Christian University--- you can find hundreds of conservative Christian Colleges.

If Christianity bothers you, though i agree with the people that said Brigham Young, and there are other conservative colleges without specific religous affiliations.

But if you're looking for a conservative school, it's easiest to find a Christian college.

Also, to the original poster, Travisp, what exactly do you have against liberals? What motivates you to hate them so much? please respond, i'm genuinely curious.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:01 am: Edit

I'm not entirely sure why you felt it necessary to tell me to shut up, Matt, but perhaps you'd like to check your facts. I think you are perhaps not looking at the meaning of "conservative" from my idealogical point-of-view. A Conservative, simply put, is one who favors little (if any) governmental intrusion into civil and constitutional rights.

Here's an example:

A true conservative would question the number of people in prison for drug posession/use. To use Thomas Jefferson's yardstick, "They neither pick my pocket nor break my leg." In other words, proponents of minimal government would generally take the position that if one wishes to waste one's life on a corner smoking pot, one has the right to do so. Why should we (a) Intrude into their personal choices and (b) Waste taxpayer money housing and feeding them.

Folks espousing the republican/religious right ethos likes to legislate morality, though, so they tend to be very harsh on drug offenders. Look at Republican states. The laws are draconian.

or

Look at Bush's desire to fund religious organizations; it goes directly against the constitutional separation of Church and State. Ant Constitutional constructionist would be appalled.

The list is rather long, actually: I'm getting tired of typing, but think about these:

- Gov't subsidies for business

- Death Penalty (Major intrusion of Gov't, I'd say)

- No Child Left Behind

- Nation-building in Iraq, Afghanistan

- God in Pledge o A

By Goodchocolate (Goodchocolate) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:14 am: Edit

Thanks for defining a simple term in a confusing manner, Noodleman!

I don't know about y'all, but I'd prefer having my college-related questions answered rather than having an argument over what "conservative" and "republican" mean.

By Goodchocolate (Goodchocolate) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:20 pm: Edit

I'm planning on majoring in biology and then going on to graduate school, so a good research school is vital. Finding one that's not religious oriented and has a conservative student body has been impossible so far...

I know Vanderbilt (TN) and James Madison (VA) are conservative schools, but would they fit my needs?

Also, is the University of Tulsa a conservative school? My assumption would be that it is, given that it's in Oklahomea, and its low price, western location, great research opportunities, and great scholarships attract me.

Is there any other suitable schools for me?

Sorry if it looks like I'm hijacking your thread travisp, but I'm sure the choices they offer me will also benefit you.

I also saw Creighton on here -- does that seem like a "fit" for me, too?

I'm aware Creighton and the University of Tulsa maintain a religious orientation, but there's many non-religious people at Creighton, and even more so at the University of Tulsa.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit

Me too, Goodchocolate. (I just don't like being told to "shut up" by a snotnose kid.")

By Foreignboy (Foreignboy) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Liberty College, damnit!

By Goodchocolate (Goodchocolate) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit

I'm also sure Eureka College is quite a conservative place; Ronald Reagan graduated from it!

By Alv (Alv) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:36 pm: Edit

I still stand by Georgetown. Even though it is a catholic school it is not how do you say in your face catholic.

By Oops (Oops) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:10 am: Edit

Noodleman, what you mean by "conservative" really sounds more like "libertarian" to me...I think that if we are asked for "conservative" colleges, we are probably looking for schools that are "conservative" in the way that most people consider them to be conservative, and Bob Jones U fits such a criteria.

I agree with others that the service academies tend to be really conservative

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 06:50 am: Edit

You bet it does. Libertarians are conservative across the board and hold the line on issues that repubs tend to waffle on for political purposes (like getting elected). Libs are pretty pure, idealogically. Republicans call themselves conservative, but if you break their policies down logically, many of them fall outside the truly conservative realm.

Problem is, media machines (RNC, Rush, Hannity etc.) constantly redefine conservatism to suit their argument du jour, and people who don't think for themselves (I don't mean that in an unkind way) kinda buy it. Thing is, conservatism isn't an amorphous, constantly-evolving paradigm. In fact, by its very nature, it tends to be rigid.

Truth is, politics (both dem and repub) is ruled by special interests (big business, unions, etc.) and they have a great degree of control in shaping ideas. Take the new medicare bill. Huge money for pharmaceutical companies. The RNC will defend it until the cows come home because they know who is buttering their bread, but the fact is that huge giveaways to industries are just not conservative. Conservative means HANDS OFF--no matter whether the money is flowing to private citizens (eg welfare, soc. sec) or to large companies (eg subsidies for big pharma, big oil, or the airlines)

Anyway, all I wanted to say was

Republican does not equal Conservative
Democrat does not equal Liberal

Phew!

By Massdad (Massdad) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit

Noodleman, I've found that political orientation is pretty much a circle. If you keep moving right, you pass the conservative republican arena into the libertarian arena. Keep going and you run right into the far left fringe of the democrats/liberals. This is why a former texas senator (Gramm) and a former georgia republican (Barr) went to work for the ACLU.

Whomever called BC conservative does not know BC or the Jesuits. Same goes for Georgetown.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit

True about the Jesuits!

However: Although the ACLU's agenda is often associated with the libs, many of their pet issues resonate with true consevatives, as they should. I would be careful about painting the ACLU with such a narrow brush as to call it a leftist organization.

How about a nice Venn diagram with a couple of overlapping circles? I'd shake on that.

By Sots (Sots) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:23 pm: Edit

...what's wron'g wit'h yo'u?

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 10:00 pm: Edit

Yo'u mus't b'e referrin'g t'o th'e origina'l pos't (university's)

By Alv (Alv) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 12:27 pm: Edit

Noodleman I completely agree with regards to libertarians. It is a same the GOP does not emulate them more often.

By Bananasrock (Bananasrock) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 12:37 pm: Edit

The best conservative universities are Washington and Lee University and Vanderbilt University. If you tell us about your academic record and proposed major it would be easier to find you a match.

By Bananasrock (Bananasrock) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 02:04 pm: Edit

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus/messages/70/2301.html

By The_Slc_Bug (The_Slc_Bug) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit

HYPS and rest of the Ivy's=liberal up the wazoo. Point one for liberals?

Is Duke more conservative than most, though?

By Bananasrock (Bananasrock) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 03:32 pm: Edit

I don't think he's trying to show conservatives are superior to liberals; he's just trying to find a conservative university. I don't see why so many liberals have gotten offended by his request.

By Tonyro76 (Tonyro76) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 04:31 pm: Edit

Hey there, Travisp! I'm a college grad and I've always been conservative, back to when Ronald Reagan was my childhood hero. Unfortunately I went to a very liberal school, chock-full of limpwristed pinkos and pantywaist leftwing professors who grew up in the '60s and many of whom probably wallowed in the mud at Woodstock with all their doped-out hippie friends. If only I'd had a wonderful resource like the Internet back in '89—so I could've asked the same question! Anywhoo...if you're seeking a good conservative school, you should definitely check out: Hillsdale College (MI), Grove City College (PA), Liberty University (VA), Calvin College (MI), or Patrick Henry College (VA). Also...anyplace belonging to the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities (CCCU) is good. That should give you a start. Oh, and I'd say avoid all the Ivy league schools just like the plagues that they are!!! May God bless you and guide you in your search, Buddy! All the best • Tony

By Tonyro76 (Tonyro76) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 04:39 pm: Edit

With all due respect to Sepulchralmoose...I disagree that the “better colleges” are the liberal ones. Just because a school has lots of snooty professors, pompous alumni, ivy on its buildings, or a 1700s founding date doesn't make it a good school. All a liberal school does is indoctrinate kids to become annoying socialist do-gooders just like all the other liberals! What makes a school great is its ability to prepare students for life as productive, conscientious citizens—with good hearts and the ability to discern with wisdom.

By Woogiewilly25 (Woogiewilly25) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

Does anyone else thingk Tonyro has serious issues? Liberty university is psychotic, they fine you if you get an abortion and for "crawling through the ceiling tiles"...cuz so many people do that? they have sch ridiculous rules...one is "two or more people of opposite sex in a motel room"...like bite me, quite frankly I would rather go to my quality public school that like hands out condoms then some sketchy school run by Jerry falwell who thinks gay people and making out is evil...as for ivy leagues being the plague...are u on crack? if you apply for a huge CEO job who do you think they'll look more highly upon, an open minded guy with an MBA in business from Yale, or some shmuck who wears "GAY PEOPLE SUCK" shirts and talks about how god wants you to buy bibles...sorry I have serious issues with schools like that, bob jones and jerryfalwell esque people....

By Woogiewilly25 (Woogiewilly25) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 04:55 pm: Edit

And don't get me wrong, im not against conservatives, there's tons of conservative schools i agree with their like, educational process and stuff (notre dame, etc etc)...but i think schools that use religion as a guilt factor into believing certain things are wrong. There's a difference between conservative and psychotic. As for "all a liberal school does is indoctrinate kids to become annoying socialist do-gooders just like all the other liberals! What makes a school great is its ability to prepare students for life as productive, conscientious citizens—with good hearts and the ability to discern with wisdom." What wisdom? I know tons of kids who went to sketchy christian shools and they are racist rejects who blame everything on gay people and maralyn manson. Schools like that do nothing more than make people narrowminded, racist and biast against others. And like I said, they do it with religion. They found these schools on a newage christian religion and tell people that God hates gay people and people wh wear form fitting clothes, or people who dye their hair pink and make out with their boyfriends. And for an example, at Liberty U, they CHARGE you when you break a rule...what, is God collecting redemption payments now for sins? Give me a break. Sorry but tis subject seriously gets me going I could argue it for hours...I hate Jerry Falwall, and i connect him with extreme conservative schools

By Dawg43 (Dawg43) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit

I don't know if you've noticed, but the better colleges tend to be very liberal. And they're universities, not university's.

Well you know what Mill said, "Not all conservatives are stupid people. But most stupid people are conservative."

By Dawg43 (Dawg43) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 05:53 pm: Edit

If you're considering universities like Liberty and Bob Jones, make sure you're the right color and date within your race. And don't even think about going out with someone of the same-sex. That will get you lynched on the Chancellor's lawn.

The fact that people actually praise these institutions says a lot about the state of bigotry, prejudice and racism in this country.

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 06:07 pm: Edit

I don't get why this turned into an argument about liberals vs. conservatives. Can't you just help the guy out....he's looking for a conservative school, not a liberal school.

I'm not sure if you're athletic or not, but if you are, i'd check out the air force academy.

By Jbe (Jbe) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Im watching Bush on TV right now.....what a fraud, he cant even stand on his own two feet.....vote Kerry, please. peace.

By Takanawajoe (Takanawajoe) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:43 pm: Edit

SMU.

Students there still can't believe Reagan is not president. Though Bush is OK for them since the first lady is a grad (1968). You will never see so many khakis and polo and BMW in a student population in your life.

By Itscool (Itscool) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 11:41 pm: Edit

stay away from all the good university if you hate liberals ...

By Mac87 (Mac87) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 11:55 pm: Edit

i doubt Berkeley is all that conservitive (california is the land of fruits and nuts), especially if compared to midwest and southern schools

i know Notre Dame is condservative, it is a Catholic school
and Texas A&M is pretty conservitive too

By T2opine (T2opine) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:35 am: Edit

He didn't say he hated liberals. All he wanted was to find a good conservative school. If it were someone saying they wanted to find a good liberal school, no one would say they hated conservatives. So why the double-standard?

As far as conservative colleges go, I think Notre Dame is pretty conservative. If you want more of the "religious right" then I'd have to say Bob Jones or Liberty. Service Academies are probably pretty conservative.

By T2opine (T2opine) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:35 am: Edit

Oh wait, I take that back, he did say he disliked liberals...sorry for that...so much for reading carefully at 12:30 in the morning (insert embarassed look here)

By Jbe (Jbe) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:19 am: Edit

Berkeley is not conservative. My Poli Sci prof. went to BYU for undergrad, and hated it. He felt out of place, so he came to Berkeley to complete his Phd. amongst the liberals.
So, BYU would be conservative
Arizona State is pretty conservative
U. of Arizona
Pepperdine, i think
St. Mary's College (CA)
U. San Francisco is Jesuit, pretty conservative

By Bananasrock (Bananasrock) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 02:27 pm: Edit

What about Harvard, Yale and Princeton? What percentage of the student body/professors at those school would you say are conservative?

By Itscool (Itscool) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit

relative zero percent probably...All the ivies are pretty liberal seeing that most of their students come from the northeast and california...but Princeton I hear is relatively conservative...keyword here is relatively so its not really conservative compared to A&M or ND...

By Savedbythebell7 (Savedbythebell7) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 04:24 pm: Edit

There is a student from St. Mary's college (CA) that works at the starbucks down the street from me, who is really liberal.

By Qbanspice (Qbanspice) on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 06:51 pm: Edit

HERE IS AN INTERESTING IDEA!!! Why not select a university that best suits your academic interests and goals rather than your political views.


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