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I got into Harvard ED. I'm sure all you geeks with 1600, 5's on AP's, and stellar GPA wanna know my stats. 1100 SAT, took 8 AP's but passed 3 with 4's gpa 3.8W. "How did f--- did u get in?" u geeks may ask. well, i played 4 varsity sports since 9th grade. do u geeks even play a varsity sport??? i play sports because i want to...not becuase i wanna look good for harvard. i won volunteer awards because i love volunteering. i have more but let's just say they're obviously better than yours. i had so much fun in high school and not worrying about tests. that's all crap. don't u people get it?? life isn't all about tests, scores, ot •••••••• like that. harvard can easily tell if you're boring or interesting. and that's why you geeks with 1600 and so on don't get in because YOU'RE JUST NOT THAT INTERESTING!!!! admitting geeks will screw up harvard's reputation and make the school boring. you may hate that i got in and you didn't but that's too bad. because harvard obviously saw past my scores. they knew i can do MORE THINGS than you people with perfect scores. scores mean nothing! it's who u are that matters. why? because in college you sat and so on mean NOTHING! gosh, just enjoy life and stop whining about not getting in with this and that becuase u obviously don't deserve harvard. it's obviously not a prerequisite to have stellar academic resume. and who are to say "how the f--- did u get in?" or "that's not fair." YOU DIDN'T GET IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T DESERVE TO GO TO HARVARD. Kudos to people who got into Harvard and still had fun with life. i'll see around Harvard Yard!!!

By anonymous on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:19 pm: Edit

I heard there was this other kid that got in Harvard with a B average, 1100 SAT, and NO ECs, and not a URM. He said he got in mainly on good recs and his essay. He graduated in '99 though. Congrats on gettin' in Harvard. Did you take the SAT IIs?

By ~ on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:19 pm: Edit

quote: "i'll see around Harvard Yard!!!"

Great grammar.

Memo to you: no one gives a fuc.k

By pãezinho on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:28 pm: Edit

what a frightening message

By Jeff on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:29 pm: Edit

To Normal: I currently in my first year at Harvard. I have always been an excellent student with top scores, but I am having to study all the time just to make Bs. You are going to be in for a rude awakening. The fun is over! Unless you are a first string varsity "something", you will be in a CC by next summer. Harvard is a tough school and if you are not qualified you will suffer. You may want to consider another school. Just a frienly observation.

By normal, but not a btch on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:31 pm: Edit

STOP CORRECTING PPL'S GRMMAR YOU FAG!!
PPL DO NOT TAKE THE TIME TO SPELLCHECK THEIR SH*T, NERD!!!!!

BTW, OP, you too are quite the asshol* for showing off. You sound like an arrogant azz, a jock with no mind (not that all jocks are). If you have a problem with ambitious ppl, Harvard will be hell for you.

Oh yeah, this is from someone who got an 1120.
I try to be straightforward but not an ass about things.

By fuckyou on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:33 pm: Edit

Hey normal, you don't deserve Harvard. What is there that is past your grades. You haveshit. You dumbass, your have the worst personality flaunting yourself. The people that got 1600's worked their butt off and you who partied all of high school is going to go to a better college. It's not fair. You will most definately suffer in college. Harvard accepted you to increase their shitass population. They needed some dickheads in the class so you got in. Go to Hell

By getalife on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:41 pm: Edit

get a life everyone!

By another normal on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:43 pm: Edit

TO FUCKYOU= YOU ARE SUCH AN ENVIOUS.... WANNA KNOW SOMETHING?? I GOT INTO HARVARD EA WITH A 1270 ON THE SAT1... HAHHHAHAHA...
to normal: I hopeto see you at Harvard next year!!

By bwahahaha on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:49 pm: Edit

lame. I was right about not attending Harvard b/c I would meet lame ppl like u.

By man on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 11:08 pm: Edit

I have a 1500 and I truly believe that I have a 0% chance. All those years I worked not knowing about college just for my love for school and so I thought I'll be alright. Now, I see people with lower scores/grades getting into top schools...I'm never lucky. My life has always sucked. I don't have friends either...I truly hope people will like me in whatever college I go to.

By haha on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 11:13 pm: Edit

"man," no one will like you. With that low self-esteem you better hope ur shrink likes you.

If you worked hard, YOU WILL go far.

Now go do drugs...it'll make you look cool you know.

By jkl on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 11:30 pm: Edit

This whole conversation is bs. First someone scoffs at diligent people, bragging about how he got into harvard without studying... good for you... now why you bagging on all these people? You need to stfu cause like the people said, you're going straight to a cc. Second, ••••, when someone's already down, don't kick him. "Man" might not have any self confidence, but he's humble and honest. Oh, and by the way, to the prospective harvard student, through your conversation, you proved to us that you too have no personality along with the "nerds." Hypocrite.

By GoCal! on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:45 am: Edit

jkl, people who think they're too smart to not get into harvard deserved to have their ass kicked. again, Ivy admission is very unpredictable. don't hate...congratulate! congrats to normal and another_normal!

By Icex1 (Icex1) on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:45 am: Edit

Congrats Normal....

It is kinda ridiculous that all the boring people usually go to schools like that. They aren't even necessarily the smartest and brightest. The just pretended to care in high school about stuff that they didn't really care about. All you people who ask "Harvard, Princeton chances" and then have 1550+ and 750 + II's and have supposedly helped mankind more than god are probably very boring and will never actually have fun. Look, I had fun in high school and I can work kinda hard in college and still see all you losers at the same grad school w/ out spending all that cash. Oh yeah, I could also go to your schools if I wanted and will probably end up there and make fun of you nerds at night and w/ normal and then score higher on the midterm. =)

P.S. I'm not the only one either.

By NYUrules on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:49 am: Edit

to "•••• you"- you're obviously jealous! get over it, harvard didn't want you (if you applied...if you didn't, my apology)! period! stop talking s*** about people's success! you'd probably say the same thing if it were you.

By cooldude on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:54 am: Edit

nerds are boring. can they socialize? yeah, with other nerds! there are some not many people who got 1600, 800's on SAT 2's, and perfect GPA who got into Harvard solely because they were able to prove in their apps. that they were interesting, not boring like nerds who probably knew nothing about prom. i totally agree with normal.

By hgjlk on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 01:58 am: Edit

to all you haters: just because you got a 1600 or so on doesn't mean that someone with a much lower score doesn't deserve to attend Harvard. you can rage all u want because you're such a loser!

By Cru (Cru) on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:01 am: Edit

Hey normal...
Congradulation for getting in to Harvard. But, there was absolutely no reason for mocking the students work their butt off to go the college. Actually, you should start learning from them.

By normal on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:02 am: Edit

To everyone who thinks Harvard will straight out reject them: read this article.

The following story comes from a student we interviewed for the first edition of our book Get Into Any College: Secrets Of Harvard Students. We were collecting what we called "Stories From Real Life," short personal narratives to give readers a chance to learn from students who had gone through the admissions process and to hear about their experiences in their own words.

Eugene, who at the time was an undergraduate, insisted that he had something important he wanted to tell college bound high school students. The following is his story in his words:


I am living proof that you don’t have to be a superstar to get into Harvard. Although I went to a competitive high school, I was far from being an outstanding student. Unlike my friends who had perfect 4.0s, my report card was littered with “B’s.” I did get “A’s,” but still my transcript was nothing to get excited about. I got average SAT scores. They weren’t terrible, but they weren’t great either. I was a member of a few groups although my highest position was secretary for my school’s public service club. I have to admit that when I filled out my college applications even I was shocked at how “average” I was on paper.

My only chance I felt was to work really hard on the essay and hopefully get good teacher evaluations. I don’t know what my teachers wrote, but it must not have been that bad. I was the kind of student who always tried hard. I also spent a lot of time on my essay and must have written and rewritten it a dozen or more times. But still nobody ever imagined that I would get into Harvard.

Was everyone shocked when April came. Even I was stunned when I opened the acceptance letter. In fact, soon after I arrived at Harvard my roommates and I had a late night discussion about how we got in. We began to compare SATs, grades, and anything else to see why we were chosen. When I told them what I had gotten they couldn’t help but tease, “How in the world did you get in?”

It was pretty obvious that it was not my grades, scores or activities that got me in. I think I owe it mostly to my essay and evaluations. My point is not that admissions is arbitrary (I think the opposite is true), but I hope all of you who are thinking about applying to Harvard will not be discouraged just because others have better grades, higher scores, or are more active in clubs or sports. As I found out, it’s not a prerequisite for you to be School President, valedictorian, and football team captain all at the same time to get into Harvard.

Harvard does take normal people too. At first I was embarrassed at how low my scores and grades were in comparison to my roommates. But now I freely admit my “averageness.” And Harvard must know a little something about success since I have consistently gotten better grades than my roommates who, based on their high school records, are far more outstanding than I.

-Eugene, who recently graduated from Harvard and is still normal.

By normal on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:04 am: Edit

source: http://www.freschinfo.com/admissions-normal.phtml

By jerseygirl on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:06 am: Edit

normal,

thanks for the article.

By Cru (Cru) on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:07 am: Edit

I read this thing a long time ago... So... This Eugene guy graduated from Harvard.. ehh... Where did he go for graduate school?

By yes10 on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:09 am: Edit

boring people should never be accepted to Harvard!

By nancy on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:17 am: Edit

i'm currently a sophmore at harvard college. i have friends whose academic resume wasn't, as many of you would probably say, "harvard-deserving." I, on the other hand, did really well throughout high school, scored above average on standardized test, and had substantial EC's. their EC's were incredible and i'm sure that's what got them in. and "normal" people like my friends do very well, even better than those who spend hours reading bland texbooks. the point is, Harvard knows whether an admitted applicant will succeed or not. if they don't succeed in academics, they'll succeed in something else like sports or arts. to normal and another_normal, enjoy your freshman year. i mean it. i regret worrying so much about grades and missing out on other fun things. but i'm having more fun this year. good luck!

By du on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:19 am: Edit

Cru,
How do you know he went to graduate school??

By di on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:22 am: Edit

yeah cru, back up your claim dickhead!

By normal on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:35 am: Edit

to those who think i'll suffer (very unlikely) at Harvard, I don't care. I look forward to my first day at Harvard and I can only do my best. You can say all you want, but it won't change anything.

nancy: how was your freshmen orientation? and do you know anything about the English Honors Program? thanks a bunch.

By nancy on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:42 am: Edit

normal,

actually i do. i'll be applying for the English honors program soon. i'm just shopping around for good advisors at the moment. i suggest that you go to Harvard's website and there'll be plenty of info. i had a conversation with a senior English concentrator and he said that getting into the honors program was a bit tough. he also said that there'll be an Oral and Written Examination at the end of your senior year. again, you can find all that in their website. There's also the sophmore "Close Reading Examination," which i'll be taking soon. trust me, all these frightened me before, but it'll surely be a smooth ride. good luck.

By ••••••• on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 03:06 am: Edit

he's lying. he didn't get into harvard.

By Who gives? on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 08:34 am: Edit

Who gives a damn about Harvard? MIT, Caltech - those are the schools to die for.

By Camilla on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 12:40 pm: Edit

Since when is the word 'normal' a compliment?

By GET A LIFE on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:20 pm: Edit

SINCE HE CAN GET INTO HARVARD!!
YOU ARE SOOOO JEALOUS!!!

By nyugrl07 on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

normal, you give us "non nerds" some hope... congrats...

By cal on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:39 pm: Edit

i know I'm dying to go to either MIT or CalTech...

By jkh on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:39 pm: Edit

i heard the suicide rates are really high at both schools...

By know on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:40 pm: Edit

really? anyone has any ideas?

By Camilla on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:01 pm: Edit

To GET A LIFE: I am not jealous. I got in too.

By Camilla on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:09 pm: Edit

Normal deserves all the harsh responses he has received. If students with ‘long-shot’ scores and grades get in to Harvard by some other talent or personal characteristic, then power to them. It is one thing to encourage people with far from perfect records to apply, but this particular post is one of the most vindictive and arrogant that I have seen on this site. Normal, it is the height of bad sportsmanship to mock kids who have worked all these years only to be disappointed.

By hotgrl1010 on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:12 pm: Edit

norm's right, you guys are a bunch of snobs... i'm happy he got into harvard... don't be mad that your 1600, 4.0+ GPA, and a zillion "false" sat's didn't get your butt in...

By Camilla on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Besides, you may very well be lying. Harvard is EA, not ED.

By sondogg on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 07:23 pm: Edit

guys, let's just make sure peopple know this: anyone who is truly brilliant may or may not be accepted to harvard but will succeed wherever they go; the smartest kids go where they will feel most at home, not because mommy and daddy want them to go to hahhhhh-vahhhhd. chillax about it, yes i applied to harvard, but will i go if i am admitted, maybe, maybe not

By soncat on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 02:51 am: Edit

thank you sondogg

By Bad Lier on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 11:22 pm: Edit

Everyone stfu, if that loser got in great for him I honestly don't give a s*h*i*t, and yes I know he would get bad grades but by the way he typed the message it doesn't seem to me he got in.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Of course he didn't get into Harvard. Can't you all see? He's probably just some loser with no life who did NOT get accepted and who is now expelling his anger at the more ambitious students who have chance of getting in. It's okay though. I understand. I would be mad if I were not accepted, but Normal... You should really find some other ways to take out your anger. Maybe some...more 'Normal' ways?

By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 05:27 pm: Edit

Besides, any true athlete out there would not spend their time doing something so pointless as posting a message such as "Normal people do get into HARVARD!!" on CollegeConfidential's message boards.

By jock on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 06:11 pm: Edit

yeah, normal, i'm a normal kid too. i play football and have fun. but dude, from what you wrote, your not really normal. Your an •••••••. I wouldn't go shitting on nerds. You can be normal, but don't be an •••••••. I bet girls never gave you any because of it. Going to Harvard is just going to make you an ••••••• loser. Its bad to be a nerd, but even worse to be a loser.

By dxiw on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 08:18 pm: Edit

normal - from what I've seen here you have a bad personality and if harvard is looking for students that aren't boring and have good personalities then I seriously doubt you got in. Your academics are terrible and whats 4 varsity sports, your school could be #50000 in sports...... Anyways, if you were a "normal" person like you say you would have made a post about who happy you were about getting in and not a vindinctive, arrogant and simply rude post like you did. From your post, I can see that your personality is terrible and that you probably don't have any friends. You look like a tremendous •••••••, unlike you many kids worked all their lifes for these ivy schools and they deserve them way over you. I'm not saying being a nerd is good, but they should get some respect. I seriously doubt Harvard accepted you and if they did it must have been a mistake. You are lacking in everything they want. You don't have high grades or low grades but ambition you simply have a crappy resume and no ambition to be something or try to raise your grades. In addition to that you have a terrible personality, good luck finding friends in some shithole CC. No intelligent person at Harvard would even look at you. Oh and you claim to be an athlete, but your nothing, wheres the olympic medal? hell, I don't even see a district #1 place? lol If your an athlete I must be a geekathlete, cause I play 10 sports and have a 1450 sat with 3.86/4 gpa. Get a life man and stop hating on people who work hard and care about things in life. And if you did, which I seriously doubt, it was probably just so that the admin officer could have the joy in sending you to a nice CC at the end of your first year.

By Mike on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 12:04 am: Edit

I agree with normal. These colleges need people to put on the covers of their brochures and to represent the school later on. I pulled a 1560, but my GPA is low, and i played varsity football and lacrosse. I actually drink and smoke (bud) bout every weekend. I have a •••• load of cool kids i know. However much you think hard work will pay off, it really won't in the business world man. You make friends and they will be seeing you in the business world. A client is much more likely to make a business decision on how smooth or interesting you are rather than on how hard you pledge to work. So however smart you are, if you are not going out enjoying youth and fuckin around and gettin into trouble, then you really don't understand the real thing in life. I've gotten into Chapel Hill, Duke, and UVA, and i know people at Harvard who are assuring me of my admissions, and i did apply, but i don't think i'll go. I swear about this too. I am not low enough to lie in a fuckin message board. Write me back if you agree or disagree, and we can have some good discussions\debates. Thanks--Mike
goldnver91@aol.com

By yay!!! im dumber now on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 05:47 pm: Edit

hmmm after all of this discussion i really have no idea if this normal guy got in or not nor do i care. also, i dont believe i have gained one iota of knowledge about colleges & acceptance, as a matter of fact i may be leaving this discussion room having lost some or gotten it all confused. Thank you all for doing so!!!

By anonymousanonymous on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 06:10 pm: Edit

Mike, what's your GPA?

By jock on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 03:48 pm: Edit

props to dxiw

By Awsdcsw11 (Awsdcsw11) on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

hey i am a high school sophmore, i was wondering what you think about my chances of getting into these schools: villanova, cornell (legacy of dad), Penn (wharton), NYU (stern)

SAT 1 - 1380
3.8 uw GPA, 4.0 w
no SAT II's yet
will take 5 AP's by graduation
rank 45/275

EC: soccer 8-12, future business leaders of AMerica 10-12, service club 10-12, started/ president of investment club, history club, math club, french club, model UN, and school volunteer.

THANKS

By Sumontkd (Sumontkd) on Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 04:53 pm: Edit

wow

By Mattisgo (Mattisgo) on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 10:11 am: Edit

It is ridiculous to insinuate that all students who receive 1600s and go to Ivy League schools such as Harvard are nerds. Certainly I will agree that it takes a lot of work to get the stats usually required for admittance at Ivy League schools and many who do end up going there sacrificed their social lives for their High School grades, but this is not always the case. The point is, not all geeks get 1600's and not all recipients of 1600's are geeks.

By Notboring (Notboring) on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:15 pm: Edit

I am a painter. I do the plays at my school. I'm a junior and the past two years I've been on my school's varsity swim team. I have a boyfriend. I'm part of my school's GSA. I have tons of friends. And I also have a 4.0 GPA. I'm taking 4 APs and honors math, and I've got no free period. I'm taking the PSAT soon and I'm shooting to be a National Merit Scholar. I got the history award at my school last year. I got an 800 on the Latin SATII. As an 11 year old kid, I took the SATI and scored higher than the average senior. I'm technically a genius. I write poetry. I'm a peer tutor. But I'm not a nerd. I love life. I genuinely love biology, I love solving math problems, I love philosophy, I love languages, and I love history. So, for all of us who work hard and aren't boring, I'll pose this question. Mr. Normal, do you deserve to go to Harvard, or do I?

By Genuinejks9 (Genuinejks9) on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 09:52 pm: Edit

omg... people who write in these discussions and say they dont care are lying... why would you write in it if you didnt care? And i absolutely cannot stand people who talk about themeselves... how annoying is that? So for "notboring", i would have to say-->
do you really thin harvard would except you with a self centered attitude like that? Im not one to judge, so if you get in then all the power to you. But you might want to evaluate how you perceive yourself. Its great to be optimistic and confident, but there is a pt where it might be slightly overwhelming. Just a thought. Im normal, maybe i dont diserve to go to harvard, but i will try. And i think anyone who has the guts to apply, deff diserves to go there.
--> sorry if i have offended anyone... just expressing my trutheful opinion... and i dont care much about grammar and spelling in a discussion like this.