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By qwertty on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 01:53 pm: Edit

The word "conservative" definitely has some very negative connotations; the very mention of word conjures up images of an old, white haired, counter-progressive, slave-driving, dogmatically catholic tyrant! The progress of the European world throughout the 20th century is owed to our lasting Liberal attitudes relative to those harbored by other civilizations. We belong to a civilization that moves forward unhindered by cultural baggage -- and as Americans lose faith in God and the importance of the various colors and varieties of the people He created, I believe we will progress even further and become, as we have already started becoming, a Mecca for Liberal, intelligent people from across the world; the multi- color and -cultural landscape of the IVY league is a glorious indicator of this process already in action.

By Burberry (Burberry) on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:55 pm: Edit

um, go to hell

By eloy on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:41 am: Edit

It is kinda true...

By your local mayor on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:31 am: Edit

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! What a pseudo ideal!!! All I have to do is laugh at your idiotic ideal of America. Wow, look at what liberals have done to this great country of ours! The Department of Education aka the control-what-and-how-you-learn system has been established thanks to those great thinkers, liberals. Students are not allowed to pray in public schools anymore, trust me, Christians do it anyway. What has happened to our traditions? Abortion, well, that's been around since Roman times and before--just go toss a baby over the city wall. But why legalize it? Why do we allow people to kill? That could have been you or me.
Well, all I have to say is you should enjoy America while it lasts, because it's going to hell in a handbasket.
Vote anti-liberal, liberals crave control of every aspect of your life. If we're not careful, we'll end up like Russia, Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam. Just watch over the next decade--Hilary Clinton will try to become President of the USA and wreck it forever. Have you read her book called It Takes a Village: And Other Lessons Children Teach Us? It's pro-socialist. Oh yeah, she didn't write it either, she had a ghost-writer.
Beware of liberals, they kept the Senate and House in a lame-duck congress for months during the Democratic majority-rule of congress. Get your facts straight before you start saying liberalism is good. Liberalism tells people that they can't do anything by themselves and they're worthless. Conservatism tells people that they can get through life by themselves and they help each other out. So get a life, "qwertty", you've probably had everything handed to you in life and you want to continue the awful tradition of liberalism aka elitism because it makes you feel special. So what if you go to an Ivy League school, I'll be your boss when I complete my State-school education. :)
Just because you posted your message makes me think you're not smarter than previous generations because who the hell would coin the phrase "A Mecca for Liberal[s]"? I hope you learn somethings in college, like that elitism is not an American principle, you bastard. Go read the Constitution of The United States Of America.
Progression with American principles, not degression with no care for American principles.

By Tim (Tim) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 02:06 am: Edit

Think of government as a system of removing freedom. Here's a handy scale of freedom -> control.

Anarchy - Total Freedom
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Libertarians
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Communism, as it is practiced
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Absolutism (usually dictatorships)

Now on this scale a compromise must be found at the point where there are the necessary restrictions on freedom (you're not free to kill your neighbor or steal his things), but the LEAST necessary restrictions on freedom.

Liberals are the group here in America that want to take the most of your freedom out of any of the major political groups.

Tim

By whereistand on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 09:03 am: Edit

The only people who want to restrict personal freedoms are conservatives. I don't belong to any political party, (I hate politics) but I know the practices of each and I have a much higher appreciation for liberals than for conservatives.

Almost every conservative I've ever met, in all truthfulness, was intolerant, bigoted, racist and believed that everyone and everything had to conform to their ways. They are also complete hypocrites, claiming "right to life," then going about executing every criminal they can get their hands on. They take away a woman's right to choose. A woman could have a serious medical condition that would mean she could die during childbirth, but in their eyes, tough ••••. They claim to respect life, yet isn't it funny how suddenly, HER life doesn't matter at all anymore, only her baby's does? They have absolutely no compassion for anyone who is not a white collar business man and have no sympathy for those less well off than they are. They favor tax cuts for the wealthy and big businesses when they already have ample profit, want to spend all their money on war, and want to force religion on everyone by mandating school prayer. The United States calls for a separation of church and state, so don't tell people to "go read the constitution" until you've figured that out--obviously, just by making that comment, you yourself have not. They also oppose equal rights for homosexuals and alternative lifestyles, broadcasting their extreme intolerance and lack of open-mindedness.

Now, Democrats have their flaws as well. They are far from perfect. However, when it comes to showing preference to the two sides of the political arena, it seems I have two choices:

1-Conservatives. Narrow minded, bible preaching, pro-death penalty, anti-choice, selfish and greedy.

2-Liberals. Open minded to all lifestyles, respects all religions and choices you make to express it, has a respect for ALL lives involved, helpful and compassionate to their fellow man.

I'll be choosing number two, thank you very much. If the world was overrun by conservatives, lord knows, nobody would be allowed to make their own choices about anything.

That is all.

By Carrro (Carrro) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:15 am: Edit

I think you said it all.
Thank You Liberalism!

By your local mayor on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:00 pm: Edit

you are narrow-minded, you liberal bastards.

By Tim (Tim) on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

Dude, you are mistaking conservatism with religious fundamentalism. Admittedly they do coincide sometimes, as with our beloved Bush 43, but not always. Religious fundamentalist politics does take away rights and I guess I could agree with you that they are worse than the Liberals.

Now I don't really like conservatism as it is practiced today, but the Liberals are much worse. Liberals support taking away many of your rights. (Free association, free trade, 2nd amendment, right to succeed, many property rights) Much worse, liberals also believe that the government should be BIG and it should be your MOMMY. Hell no.

Modern Conservatives, to me, come off as ••••••••.

Modern Liberals, to me, come off as nutjob babysitters.

Tim

By your local mayor on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

yeah, fundamentalism is bad in any religion.

liberals seem like a bunch of wankers to me.

conservatives can be rather disturbing at times.

reaabide by the laws, don't assume you have rights in everything.

By your local mayor on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

yeah, fundamentalism is bad in any religion.

liberals seem like a bunch of wankers to me.

conservatives can be rather disturbing at times.

reaabide by the laws, don't assume you have rights in everything.


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