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By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:29 pm: Edit

GPA 3.96 unweighted (straight A's until senior yr, in which I got one B both semesters)
Rank 18 of 301 unweighted
10 AP credits (approx. 2 credits per class)
7 Honors credits
'Most rigorous' course load

Not super rigoruous jr and sr years (relative to fr and soph year) due to medical problems

SAT I Verbal: 720
Math: 650
SAT II writing: 700
Math IIC: 650
Biology: 690

AP biology: 5
english lit: 4
calc AB: 3
chemistry: 3
AP scholar with honor (not that that means much)


-1 yr football (only (and first ever) girl on team)
-2 yr wrestling (only girl on team)
2nd at girls state
OR nat'l team, participant at USGWA girls nat'ls
-2 yr rugby (girls team this time)
team captain, treasurer
2002 state champs
1 0f 50 in nation selected to attend USA Rugby u19 Elite Training Camp and Nat'l Team tryouts, 2002 and 2003
Member of USA Rugby u19 Developmental Team
- 2 yr. softball
---No varsity letters. Hell, only girl on team! can you blame me for not making varsity?---

-Highly selective summer science research apprenticeship with undergrad level research
(after fr year though) note: 20% acceptance rate to program, and 5% of those accepted are freshman
-Add'l summer of science research after soph yr.
-Teacher for science day camp
-Mentor for HS students in science summer camp

-National Honor Society

-Ceramics teacher for after school program
-Ceramics teacher at local Craft Center
-Volunteer ceramics teacher for various programs
-HS ceramics award

3 Great recs and counselor report. 1 okay rec. Great essay.

I'm currently taking a year off. I graduated in June 2003. During my year I'm continuing with my sports, doing ceramics (selling pots and teaching at a few places), teaching science to k-8 kids, and taking art classes. I applied to Brown last year and did not get in. (My test scores and some other ec have improved from last year)

I'm not turning in the 4c science rec because I couldn't get ahold of a teacher to do it (small school, and most of my science teachers moved away). Last year I had a professor I did research with do it, not a teacher (which I recently found out they don't accept). Anyways, I will put undecided down and not do it. Yet my resume is science heavy, so i have the background of someone who would probably go for a bs. My actual interest is neuroscience.

Any input you guys could give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 02:48 am: Edit


By Peachieva (Peachieva) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit

I really don't see why they didn't accept you in the first place. Your stats somewhat close to mine (except for the athletics-which I have none). Did you have mediocre recs and essays or what? And why didn't you do ED?
Bottom line: I think you've got a good shot

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit

Last year I had a 1290 SAT I and the only AP score I had was a 3 on chemistry. I think that really hurt me.

I think I have a better essay this year, too. And I also have better ec

I didn't do ED because I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to go do brown at ED time.

Did you get accepted?

By Mjl86 (Mjl86) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 04:12 pm: Edit

I think you should take the bio sat2 over again, because you said neuroscience is what you wanna do in college, and taht score is too low if you consider it as your strength. You should easily get 800 since you got a 5 on AP bio. How can you teach science to kids K-8?

By Peachieva (Peachieva) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 04:28 pm: Edit

No I haven't been accepted to Brown yet, b/c I couldn't apply early (I applied early to Stanford where i was accepted =) so I'll find out in April. However, my friend was accepted ED this year w/ a 1200 SAT I and a 26 ACT.

By Peachieva (Peachieva) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 04:30 pm: Edit

Oh, and SHE DIDN'T have as many AP's as you did.

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

dude, did she slip a c-note in the app? j/k

what did she have, in that case?

i'm actually writing that my interest is cognitive science...basically the ba version of neuroscience because I don't have someone to fill out the 4c science rec (see first post)

By Foreignboy (Foreignboy) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 05:37 pm: Edit

Your ECs are way cool, but the SATs are not strong enough to make up for weak APs.
I wouldn't say you're a clear admit, but you are a unique candidate, and they will like that, especially if your essays are interesting.

By Mjl86 (Mjl86) on Saturday, January 03, 2004 - 07:30 pm: Edit

i know it means money
but where does it come from?

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

it means 100 dollar bill

cent means 100 in i think latin

you know, like, "century"
so, c for 100

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 03:16 pm: Edit

Peach: what were your friends stats?

Mjl: I believe January is my last chance to get scores that will count for my application, and I had planned to retake the SAT I instead of doing more SAT II, like bio. Is that a bad idea? Is brown going to see that 5 in bio and think she's good at bio or are they going to need a high score in the bio satII to think that?

By Peachieva (Peachieva) on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 04:10 pm: Edit

She was just out of the top 10% (46/420).
I'm not sure about her GPA maybe 3.6-3.8 UW max.
I don't know how her interview went but I do know that she did it over the phone rather than in person.
She did some sort of exchange program in Germany and played tennis (no state or national recognition in tennis though)
She was a URM and her father died when she was very young.
She was a National Achievement Commended Student.
I have no clue what her essays were about.
She has like 6 APs total.
I hope this helps you.

By Bsweezy (Bsweezy) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit

I was rejected from Brown last year. I'm a Freshman at UNC-CH now.

1560 SAT I (790/770 V/M)
33 ACT (i think, i don't remember)

5 Latin Lit
4 Latin Vergil
5 Chemistry
5 Euro History
5 US History
5 AB Calculus
5 English Lit

Eagle Scout, many years of high involvement in Boy Scouting

Principal's Award for Community Service (500+ hrs)

Acceptance into Department of Defense work-study program.

Huge investment of time into Vocal Choruses, Musical Theater, and Drama.
In top approx 13% of class, UW GPA around 3.5 I would guess. Weighted was 4.39.

Of course it was my grades that killed me; it is not that they wereterrible, but they were the worst element of my record.

My essays were probably well-received. I am a strong writer. I left the whole college admissions process with the earnest conclusion that it is a craps shoot and a sham. I would have a higher GPA and class rank if i had not taken all the chorus classes that I did. I earned an A in every one of them, but that 4.0 averaged in with the rest of my grades pulled down the average.

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 03:59 pm: Edit

funny...getting an a in choir actually *lowers* your gpa....

did you take less like ap or honors courses because you had so many chorus coures?

By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 06:16 am: Edit



By Argilospsychi (Argilospsychi) on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 04:05 am: Edit


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