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Hey everyone

Please rate my chances (1-10, 10 being the best) at the following schools:
Harvard (deferred EA)
Yale
Penn (yea!)
Columbia
BU
GW (legacy)
NYU
Emory

I'm white, go to a competitive, relatively new public school in Miami.


SAT I- 760M 700V
SAT II- 760 Math IIC, 730 Writing (10th grade),730 US History
ACT- 34
Rank- 1/733
GPA- 4.0 unweighted, 5.8 weighted
*I will be graduating with the highest GPA in the history of my school. ( projected at 6.73 at graduation)
Intended Major: Economics

AP Scores:
Chemistry- 5
Calculus AB- 5
Psychology- 5
Spanish Lang- 5
US History- 5
European History- 4
English Lang.- 4

Summers:
going into 11- Honors physics, research
going into 12- Honors research (ongoing)

Senior Year Schedule:
AP Calculus BC
AP Biology
AP English Literature
AP Environmental Science
AP Statistics
AP Macroeconomics
AP US Government and Politics
AP Art History

Awards:
National Merit Semifinalist

Most Outstanding Math Student

Princeton University Book Award

NCTE School Representative

"Superior" rating on piano at Superintendent's honors music festival

Selected to perform on piano for Gore/Lieberman during 2000 presidential campaign

Coca-Cola Scholarship Semi-finalist

School's Science Representative in Silver Knight- this is a prestigious competition based on EC's and community involvement

AP Scholar with Distinction

Valedictorian


Extracurriculars:
*Key Club (9-12)

*English Honor Society (10-12)

*Mu Alpha Theta (Math Honor Society)- (10-12), Vice president (11), executive officer (12)

*National Honor Society (10-12), Recording secretary (11), Vice President (12)

*Science Honor Society- President (12)

*SECME- Vice President

*Classical Pianist for twelve years- sent supplemental CD

*Science Research- health and medicine. Report submitted to Intel Science Talent Search, Siemens-Westinghouse Competition, Science Fair, University of Florida Symposium, Epidemiology Competition

*Community Service Project- "Bundles for Babies"- I am the founder of this program, which collects baby clothes, toys, books, etc. and donates all items to indigent babies

*Played piano for hospitalized children during the summer (about 100 hours)

*I regularly perform science demonstrations at local elementary schools, with hopes that this will increase youth interest in science.

*Selected by AP English Teacher as school representative in the National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) writing competition

*Head of science competition team

*Member of Envirothon team, which competes in environmental science tournaments

*Selected to partake in three competitive math examination contests: The David Essner Test, American Math Competition, and the Helen Dostal Test (results to be announced)

Total hours service in high school: 1639

Work experience: Only during the summers at a dental office

Fluent in Spanish, English and Spanish are spoken at home (does this really make a difference?)

Recommendations: Both great
one from ap chem/honors chem/honors physics/honors research teacher/Science Honor society sponsor/Research mentor

one from honors precalc/AP Calculus AB/AP Calculus BC teacher

I'm already anticipating April- what should I expect? 1-10?

By Varr (Varr) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 10:41 pm: Edit

you are valedictorian and have a 1460?? now that talks poorly about your school

By Nycschoolss (Nycschoolss) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:08 pm: Edit

True that Varr, I was thinking about the same thing. The highest GPA in school history with a 1460 SATs? Whoa, your school aint competitive at all! Some of the NYC specialized Hs has an AVERAGE of 1400+, so if you go to a REAL competitive school, you would probably just be average.

Harvard - Highly unlikely you wont get in

Yale - Same as harvard

Penn (yea!) - Possibly, depends on school, if Wharton , you probably wont get in. Others, you have a chance.

Columbia - Also depends - If applying to FU, you will probably get in, regular Columbia, mostly not.

BU - highly possible you will get in.

GW (legacy) - highly possible you will get in.

NYU - highly possible

Emory - Possible

NOTE : Nothing about you stands out - You are just another person with high average.

The only thing that stands out is a negative thing... is that you are the valedictorian of a school with 700+ and have such a low SATs.

By Sw4y (Sw4y) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:31 pm: Edit

dont listen to them.
sat's dont matter for anything.

i am in brown ED with a 1370. i just have a really good application. just make sure you cant describe your activities well and make sure you use extra paper in describing them. dont describe everyone of them but certainly more than 4 with prob a short 3 sentence paragraph each?

that ny kid doesnt know what he is talking about. like as long as you show personality on your app then you are in. a 1400+ is so good. i wish i broke 1400

By Boricua11 (Boricua11) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:38 pm: Edit

Im Valedictorian and I have a 1130 on my SAT.
My school has 786 students

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:41 pm: Edit

thanks sw4y. As you the other two, I don't think that my taking one test can allow you to draw conclusions based on the cometitiveness of my class. I think you are too hung up on SATs, which don't measure anything except eigth grade math. Did you fail to realize that I got 5's on AP calc, chem, american, psych, and spanish? it just so happens that my class is extremely, EXTREMELY competitive. I will be graduating with 15 AP courses, A's in all of them mind you, and it isn't even a sure bet that I'll be val. you're hung up on the wrong things (SATs).

By Hardcohomeyg (Hardcohomeyg) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:51 pm: Edit

how do u get a 5.8 and 6.73?
for us an AP class gets weighted as a 5.0 but thats it. Even a 4.5 is impossible to get

By Deeny1414 (Deeny1414) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:52 pm: Edit

Amen

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 11:53 pm: Edit

For us APs are weighted as 6. I have a 5.8 now but when it is updated midyear it will be a 6.73

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 01:05 am: Edit

can anyone tell me my chances for Penn (the College) especially?

By Interesteddad (Interesteddad) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:32 am: Edit

Spacechic:

The goal, IMO, is not to throw everything including the kitchen sink on your list of activities. It is preferable to narrow the focus down to one or two things that your are really passionate about. From your list, I can't tell what those are.

By Twinkletoes696 (Twinkletoes696) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 03:11 am: Edit

Bringing up that point, Interesteddad, I've been meaning to ask you something- if you don't mind, will you email me? I'd rather not post it publicly or for anyone to take my half-baked idea, but I read your posts about your daughter's Swat strategy in application/acceptance (Btw congrats!) so I figured you would know if I had the right idea.

By Nycschoolss (Nycschoolss) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 04:35 am: Edit

To sw4y - While i realize that Brown is an awesome school but it aint no harvard or Yale. I also agree that SAT's isnt everything but to Harvard it is 1 out of many things you need to passed to gain admission and his SAT's dont cut it.

Spacechic - Ok, answer this question - point out something that makes you a "hook" to colleges? If you have a hard time telling me this than why would the colleges pick you? And i told u, upenn Wharton, you basically have no chance... But other colleges in Upenn is considerably easier to get into and u have a slim chance in getting in.

By Pwiddles (Pwiddles) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 08:17 am: Edit

Just wanted to know what you thought my chances to Ithaca were based on my stats:
H.S aVERAGE: 88
SAT: 1200
AP Sores, 4 on the u.s history, and a 2 on the ap english

Many hrs of volunteer and involved with 3 different clubs.
i ALSO SPEAK GREEK.

please help evaluate quickly
will the 2 on the ap hurt my chances?

By Pwiddles (Pwiddles) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 08:17 am: Edit

Just wanted to know what you thought my chances to Ithaca were based on my stats:
H.S aVERAGE: 88
SAT: 1200
AP Sores, 4 on the u.s history, and a 2 on the ap english

Many hrs of volunteer and involved with 3 different clubs.
i ALSO SPEAK GREEK.

please help evaluate quickly
will the 2 on the ap hurt my chances?

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 04:15 pm: Edit

my hooks?
1- science: i did research, i explained my project and attached the abstract. I explained my results and explained where I submitted my project to. i also do science demonstrations at local elementary schools and am my school's nominee for Silver Knight in Science. I am head of the science competition team at my school, am VP of SECME and president of Science Honor Society.
2- piano. as i said, i submitted a CD of me playing the piano, explained that i performed for Joseph Lieberman by invitation, and earned a superior rating at the Superintendents Honors Music Festival.

and my the way, in response to your first message about my "low" SAT score, did u fail to realize that I scored a 34 (equivalent to 1520-1550) on the ACT?

By Encomium (Encomium) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 05:30 pm: Edit

i wouldn't worry space chic
when i saw that i thought that it just gave further proof that the SAT's are worthless

NTCE/AP English shows more than 700 V/730 Writing

I think this is why the AP people decided to grade ona 5 point scale not an 80 point scale...because really there's not difference other than a few questions between a 700 and an 800....it's really pointless

By Deeny1414 (Deeny1414) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 05:34 pm: Edit

Actually I'd argue that Brown's admission process can be a lot harder. You never know who they will accept/defer/reject. A lot of times w/ Harvard, you can at least tell who they will defer or reject, same w/ Yale, but Brown is a toss up.

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 10:22 pm: Edit

thanks, encomium. deeny1414,i completely agree with you. one of my friends got deferred from brown (shes hispanic too!) and she was very qualified to attend. my cousin, about 6 years ago, applied also and wasn't admitted. she took a year's break between high school and college to try to get in again the next year but still didnt make it. she did, though, get into UPenn, where she had a 4.0 GPA. This goes to show that she was very qualified and it's really an abitrary process.

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 10:15 pm: Edit

*bump* please
i'd particularly like input about my chances for penn and columbia, particularly. thanks

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 10:15 pm: Edit

*bump* please
i'd particularly appreciate input about my chances at penn and columbia. thanks!

By Sw4y (Sw4y) on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 10:18 pm: Edit

DONT SUBMIT YOUR SAT

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 10:42 pm: Edit

too late...

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 09:28 pm: Edit

bumpity bump

By Reelcool (Reelcool) on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 09:38 pm: Edit

oh my god no

By Reelcool (Reelcool) on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 09:39 pm: Edit

even if ap was weighted as a 6 you couldnt have a 6.whatever the hell...stupid ass...your not gonna go to college

By Ohyeah07 (Ohyeah07) on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 09:53 pm: Edit

spacechic20

In my opinion, you're in at just about any school. Your SAT is NOT low at all, nycschools is mostly wrong. Harvard takes plenty of kids with lower SAT's, you're at least above the 25% mark.
And I think the rest of what you do makes you stand out.
Be optimistic, make sure your essay is great, and you'll be fine.
1460 is not low at all!!!
good luck.

By Spacechic20 (Spacechic20) on Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 10:45 pm: Edit

thanks, actually reelcool it's possible to have higher than a 6.0 because they take all honors points and divide them by 15. then they add that to the unweighted.

By Ebudes (Ebudes) on Friday, December 26, 2003 - 06:30 pm: Edit

A 1460 is a little bit low for Yale, but that's okay because the adcoms seem to be admitting more people with lower SAT scores. Your SAT II scores are average, but they shouldn't hurt your chances that much.

OK, here are my ratings of your chances:

Yale - 7
Penn - 8
Columbia - 8
BU - 10
GW - 10
NYU - 9
Emory - 10

The reason why I gave you lower ratings on the Ivies, is because there are so many applicants that have almost the exact same stats as yours. However, if your essays and recommedations are stellar, you will mostly definitely stand out from the crowd.

Good luck!