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Okay, here it goes. {Sigh}

Grew up in Fairfield, CT (where about 40% of my peers were accepted to Ivy and Patriot league schools) and went through high school looking around and at the floor like "Whoa, interesting. Why am I here?"[Ambiguous(School and life)]

Not to dump too much on the audience, but I sufferred moderate depression for the duration of Soph, Junior, and Senior years. This - as unfortunate as it is - is the pathetic justification for the downright terrible credentials that I am about to list.

2.94 GPA
990 SAT 520 Math
470 Verbal :'(
4 yrs Italian Club
1 yr Stock Investment Club
1 yr Snowboarding Club

2 yrs JV Golf
2 yrs Varisty Golf(Div I state champs)


throughout those four years, worked the following jobs:

Caddy: Summer 99,00,01,02,03
Gap Sales Associate: 08/00 - 01/01
Greenskeeper[Golf Coarse] Summer 01
Bus Boy: 08/01 - 10/01
Bar Tender-Coffee shoppe 11/01 - 01/02
Marshalls-Sales Associate 11/02 - 4/03


I am now a freshman at East Carolina University enrolled under a Business Mgmt Major. I have been as uncomfortable here for the last 4 months as an American soldier surrounded by 5 Iraqis with guns(Interesting analogy, eh?) Needless to say, I want to get the heck out of here. At the end of high school when it was time to fill out applications, I looked around and noticed what type of position I had put myself in. I couldn't bear to show my face because I felt like such an idiot. Much like I do here, but I've realized that effort helps. haha.

( : \ )

I have approximately a 3.8 right now, but there are still a few opportunities left to boost it to a 4.0. As of late I have taken a ridiculously profound interest in Computers and I will actually be changing my major to Computer Science/Engineering tomorrow. The thing is - I have incredibly high goals set for myself that which cannot, well...be 'unset,' if you will.
Obviously the fact that I did so poorly on my SATs is what will keep me from going to the places I really want to go, or will they?

Math was never my favorite subject throughout high school, but now I enjoy it quite a bit. I was placed in Remedial Math once I took the placement test at Orientation here(obviously I'm going to be placed in low math if I hate it) but I have about a 97 in that class right now, and I'm confident that I take on anything - reasonable that is. My goal is, like I said, to change majors and take on a whole new course load of work consisting of Physics and Calculus. The average advisor would probably consider me looney for the desire to attempt Calculus, but I am going to take it regardless and get an A. I have plans to transfer to North Carolina State University because of their Engineering program after this year, but the thing that I am doubtful about; however, is my goal or desire that I mentioned earlier. I want to go to MIT or Harvard from NC State, and hopefully as Undergrad, but I don't even know if it is humanly possible. I wouldn't hesitate to think that you're laughing on the floor right now, normally, but I am so motivated that I am oblivious negative feeling.

You hear stories about people transferring into Ivy League schools from Community colleges occasionally, so I figure that I have a decent shot at it as long as I have some guidance. I plan on taking the SAT again next fall. If I study all summer and learn every type of math covered in high school, and become familliar with calculus inside-out, I think I can bring my Math score up remarkably and then all I'd have to worry about would be my Verbal score...I'll read profusely and commit as much of the dictionary to mind as possible - seriously.


Now, like I said, I have a 3.8 and I'm going to try as hard as I possibly can to bring my SAT score up, I'd like to list my EC activities for this semester.


100 hours community svc
Member - Senate, Student Gov.'t Association
Intramural Volleyball
Intramural Soccer
Intramural Golf
Brother of Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity
Proud Fundraiser+donor of $500.00 to the Ronald McDonald house
Aspiring Violinist+Pianist

I'm also going to try out for the golf team, but my 6 hdcp will only get me the last spot.


I have one more semester left at ECU to make a mark, and I'm going to get involved into a few more things, but a workload of 18 hours might keep me from doing much. I want to do as much as possible from this point on, so if you have any advice Please give as it will accepted with pleasure. I consider myself Ivy material because of my level of Motivation. Am so inpired in so many ways that it's hard for me to contain myself sometimes.

I have all summer to enroll in any or every type of activity one can think of, and I know I'm going to need everything I can get. If you have any ideas, please PLEASE tell me. I want from this message not an evalution of what my chances of admission are, but a suggested path to the life I desire. I want you to be my advisor, my mentor, my savior, and/or that source of pressure that I never got from my parents...

Thank you...

By Unmatchedsocks (Unmatchedsocks) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:29 pm: Edit

Okay, if you are in remedial math, MOST colleges will not count it as college credit and it will not factor into your GPA, and also it will make you look like like an idiot to Ivy League schools.

Intermural sports do NOT count as activities. They count as hobbies. If you play on a club team or a varsity or junior varsity, that counts and extracurricular involvement.

The only reason schools want their applicants to be involved in high school is that it is a good indicator that they will be involved in college. Colleges accept athletes to be on the sports teams, musicians to be in the bands and symphonies, writers to run the newspapers and recite poetry in the coffeehouses. If you are just now starting to learn the piano and the violin, you will not be good enough to partcipate in their symphony or anything. Again, that counts as a hobby.

I appreciate your desire to change your life, but you have no shot at Harvard or other such schools. Your grades are okay (And they will see your crappy grades from your high school, anyway), you are not taking challenging courses, and you are really not at all involved.

What I suggest is that you transfer to a semi-decent state university, keep your grades up and apply for the honors program (if they allow students to apply after their freshman year), and try to get into a good grad school.

By Sooky6 (Sooky6) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 02:46 pm: Edit

Ubiquitous--I hope Carolyn will respond to you with one of her great lists of schools. If you tell us what you are looking for, I will try too! You definitely need to expand your list outside the Ivy League. There are tons of great schools that would be thrilled to have a student like you that is "on the rise" as they say.. and have demonstrated that they can succeed in college.

Extracurricular activities include everything you do that is not part of a formal school curriculum. Intramurals certainly "counts"--not toward athletic recruitment of course, but as part of your invovlement, and part of who you are.

You have a good attitude and there are many schools that would be lucky to have you. Tell us more specifically what you're looking for and we'll go at it!

Please don't think of ECU or NC State as the basement and Harvard/MIT as the pinnacle of education; there is so much richness in between. I went to a liberal arts college and then to Harvard for grad school--believe me, every place has its advantages and disadvantages. I wouldn't recommend H for you as an undergrad (particularly for engineering). Let us help you find where you belong!!

By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 03:27 pm: Edit

I don't think colleges look at SAT scores taken once you are in college. I'm not positive, but I would look into it to make sure you even can take the SAT again and have it count.

By Carolyn (Carolyn) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 03:30 pm: Edit

I agree: we need to know more about what you are looking for in a school and where you would like to be (beyond Harvard). The fact is Harvard and the other Ivy schools take very few transfer students so your or anyone's chances of transferring to Harvard or another Ivy are very slim. Doesn't mean it can't be done but it does mean that you should focus on other options if your priority is getting out of your current school quickly.

There are many fine schools for computer science where you would have a good shot. I would not recommend you transfer next year with the thought of transferring yet again the following year. Competitive schools will take that as a lack of focus on your part and that will crimp your chances. Additionally, with each transfer it becomes less likely that you will be able to graduate in 4 years, especially in a field like computer science or engineering. Instead, you need to find the right school to transfer to next year or the year after that and stick with it.

I have a couple of thoughts in mind but first I need to know a bit more: do you want to go back to the Northeast or would you consider other parts of the country? Are you really sure you want to major in computer science? If not, what other fields might you also be interested in studying? Is cost a factor? Would you prefer a large or small school? Urban, suburban, or rural location or no preference? What type of classes do you do best in - smaller classes, large lectures, classes with lots of discussion, classes where you have to do lots of writing? Finally, the big question: what exactly makes East Carolina the wrong fit for you? Is it the social atmosphere, the academic atmosphere, or both? Be as specific as possible, especially about the last question.

By Leh232 (Leh232) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 03:41 pm: Edit

Hey, someone else from Fairfield, CT

By Ariesathena (Ariesathena) on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 03:58 pm: Edit

I'll second the fact that Harvard for engineering is not that good. Mostly, the students are sent to MIT to get their courses done.

A few words of advice: if you are in a lower-level math class right now, you may want to take a higher level one before going in to calc and physics all at once. As an engineer, I remember how much you really need to master math to get through the curriculum... not just lower-level math, but you need to be great at calculus and differential equations. So, take a higher level math and focus primarily on that, then see if you want to continue with engineering. It is a very unforgiving major, so don't just jump into it head first.

I'll throw out a list of Massachusetts engineering schools, though Carolyn's list will probably be much more comprehensive.

*MIT
*Tufts
*UMass Lowell (which is second only to UCal Berkeley for state-run engineering programmes)
*UMass Amherst
*Boston University
*Worcester Polytechnic (WPI)

I don't think that intramural sports are useless; colleges do not have athletes just to stock varsity teams. IM sports add a lot to campuses, in terms of students socializing, having fun, getting outside, and doing it all in a healthy way that parents tend to approve of. The fact that you are trying to get involved in a school which you plainly do not like says a lot: you aren't just sitting around and saying that you hate the place; you've tried to get involved and do stuff, and realized that it's still not for you. You aren't the type to just sit around and study and not care about what's going on around you. To me at least (though I'm not judging your application on an admissions committee), those sound like really good qualities. Also, you're doing all that stuff AND maintaining a good GPA - which indicates that you are scheduling yourself well, and that you could succeed at a tougher institution.

When colleges are admitting students, they are trying to guess at who would fit well at their schools, contribute to the community, and be able to succeed in a college environment. Now, you've established that you will contribute to the school and that you can succeed in college. It sounds like a small thing, but many students get out of the structure of high school and home, go to college, and fail miserably. You at least have shown that you aren't that student. It's a plus.

Again, to echo an earlier post, do not transfer and transfer again. Transfer once and do it right; it's possible to get into a top-tier school from a fairly mediocre one. From there, you can look at MIT or whatnot for grad school, if that's the path you want to take.

Good luck.

By Ubiquitous (Ubiquitous) on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 07:44 pm: Edit

Wow. Reading all of this makes me feel so much better about..well, everything. I never thought I'd get this much helpful advice; It's Great!

Okay, I'd like to explain myself a little bit more here. I don't hate this school, but I just feel like I can do SO MUCH BETTER. The last few months of my life have been very interesting in many ways. I've "found myself," if you will, despite the fact that I wasn't even looking. I just kind of fell out of the idiot state of mind embraced all throughout adolescence. At the beginning of this semester I was dissatisfied with myself big time.
I felt like I was an idiot because I was going to a school full of people who had the same academic record I did throughout high school, and this upset me because I'm very impressionable and whatever is around affects me significantly. Over the course of 6 or something weeks my surroundings started to anger me. My roommate; for example(one of 4,000), sleeps ALL DAY LONG! He does not do anything besides sit on the $2,100.00 laptop his father bought him and play solitaire. It pisses me off to an immeasurable extent.

Anyway, I consider my desire to attend Harvard or MIT relatively unrealistic, but the thing is that I know I can do it despite the weight of the workload…..I won’t let anything stand in my way. I know my past experience with math may prevent me from understanding Calculus, which is why I plan on taking MATH 1065(College Algebra) spring semester. It’s a prerequisite for all of the core/introductory computer science classes and it’s the stepping stone that will lead me to all the upper level math I can handle…I have to take so I’ll just suck it up and get it out of the way. Also, I know remedial math will set me back in terms of transferring, I’ve already taken measures of compensation by registering for extra classes next semester and plan on taking a math course, among several others, over the summer. I also think I'm going to increase my workload to like 20 hours a semester as well.
The thing is, my motivation gets ahead of me sometimes and when it does I’m screwed because I am stubborn as hell when it comes to admitting the impossible. I’m willing, though, to be a little more reasonable, but I still have Ivy in the back of my mind. I have this obsession imbedded in my soul for prestige and superiority. Some may say it’s a materialistic perception that’s grown on me result of living my entire life in Fairfield, CT., but the truth is: it’s not. I want to prove it to myself, and I need to do it so I can satisfy the hunger that lurches within, or else I’ll turn into an empty being that hovers around aimlessly. I need to reach my goals, and I’m lessening them a bit, but not much. I have no problem staying up all night long to learn material for an exam, and I’m also still learning time mgmt, so only with time will my skill increase double standard. Reprimand me if you must, but I know I can accomplish what it is that I want and with the right guidance, I’ll make it.

I’d like to attend a school in an urban area because I’m greatly intrigued by the thought of a metropolitan life-style—especially because I grew up in a fairly city-oriented town. (another reason why I don’t like Greenville, NC—too small) As for location, Northeast would be good, but I’m flexible with that one.
Now, about my infatuation with Ivy… I don’t think that it is out of the question because keeping my grades up and staying involved won’t be a problem for me, which leads to my next point: Extra Curricular activity. I know EC is activity not affiliated with the school and I was talking with some of my frat brothers about an organization I could start around town, but nothing came to mind. I have to do some more research on that, and I’ll take any recommendations as well on what club/group you think would be impressive and challenging in the eyes of an Ivy league admissions counselor.
All I need is to have a list of things I need to do. If I had this I’d be good to go and I’ll write you a letter from MIT, hopefully undergrad. I understand that transferring out to a school before I apply somewhere else may not be a good idea for the fact that it may imply the wrong things to the wrong people, so I guess I can put up with this school for a bit longer if that’s what it takes. To put my intentions into perspective: the main things I’m concerned with are incurring massive debt from private schools and finishing everything as soon as possible, which is why I wanted to get a degree from MIT undergrad. I just don’t think I’d be able to swing grad school for the money problem on top of controlling my SERIOUS problem of impatience. I'm SO EAGER TO SUCCEED!

Tell me what you think. I'm listening and you have my full undivided attention along with my faith.

-Michael

By Ubiquitous (Ubiquitous) on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 07:06 pm: Edit

Where'd everybody go?

By Ubiquitous (Ubiquitous) on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 08:57 pm: Edit

I can't stand this anymore. Everytime I browse this website I feel like I'm such a moron and it makes me really upset. It's like I'm addicted to comparing myself to all of these 1480 SATs and "I got waitlisted at Harvard!! WTF?"

I feel like I am going to cry.

The normal response would probably be "Forget about your past and try as hard as you can so you can be a part of that soon." I don't know how to say this, but it's a part of me and what can I say? I'm typing this response to a thread that no one looks at and, yea. This is pathetic. No matter how hard I try, I still feel so worthless. I can't understand half of the math that I see and in threads like "Physics whiz? Harvard material," the things being thrown around serious make me sick to my stomache. I seriously think that I'm just setting myself up for failure by having these absurd obsessions, but I want it so bad even though it's damn near impossible. I don't know what to do. If I could be a freshman in high school right now I would be so happy... Gah. I think I'm going to go fall asleep now because I have no idea how to cope with my problems. Thanks to this little dialogue box because you're the only one listening.

By Unmatchedsocks (Unmatchedsocks) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm: Edit

[self deletion]

By Ubiquitous (Ubiquitous) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 02:24 pm: Edit

Self deletion?

By Bluealien01 (Bluealien01) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 08:24 pm: Edit

How many hours are you taking this semester? Are you sure that taking 20 this spring is a must? You don't want to overload yourself too much, especially if a great deal of the courses are reading intensive.

Since I go to State, here is some info:

Go to NCSU's website, click on For Future Students, go to Advising Central(link is in the middle column). Click on "Virtual Advisers." Click on "Answers" On this site they have a bunch of questions answered. On the dropdown menu, select "Transferring Courses." There might be some information of use to you there. Also try selecting "Admissions" on the dropdown menu, and then "Transfers" from the second dropdown menu.

Go back to For Future Students, and click on "Admissions"(link in the middle column). Then click on "Admission"(red word under highlight at top right of page). Click on "Transfter Admission". You can click on any of the red spaces with words on them that are on the left. Here are the requirements for transferring into the College of Engineering:
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Transfer Requirements -
College of Engineering

Students applying to transfer into the College of Engineering must meet the following requirements:
30 hours of transferrable credit, including:
English Composition (ENG 111)
second level English Composition (ENG 112)
Chemistry with lab (CH 101 & 102)
Calculus I (MA 141)
Calculus II (MA 241)
2.5+ GPA in the last two Calculus or higher level mathematics courses
Calculus-based Physics (PY 205)
Overall GPA of 3.0+ (will review if GPA is between 2.5-2.9)

Note that the minimum GPA for Computer Science is 2.7.
Biomedical Engineering may require higher than a 3.0 cumulative - transfer applicants to Biomedical Engineering will be reviewed on an individual basis and may have to fill out an additional departmental application.

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http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/students/docs/transfer.html

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General Transfer Information

Minimum requirements

Students applying for transfer admission should present a minimum of 30 semester (or 45 quarter hours) of college level work, including a college English course and a college Math course which are applicable to the requested degree program. Many students apply to transfer to NC State with college courses in progress elsewhere. Any work in progress must be completed and transcripts received by December 1 (for spring semester applicants) or by July 1 (for fall semester applicants).

The minimum grade point average (GPA) on your college level work required for transfer consideration is a 2.0 on a 4.0 scale; however, the specific requirement for each program will vary. Most degree programs at NC State require a higher GPA. Students must have a minimum 2.0 GPA on any coursework attempted at NC State through the Lifelong Education program.

Transfer credit is granted only for work that is applicable to the degree program at NC State and on which a grade of 'C' or better was earned. To determine if your college courses are transferable, please refer to our Course Equivalencies website. Transfer students must submit official transcripts from each institution they have attended. Applicants whose names have changed should indicate on the application which name will appear on their transcripts. Students must be eligible to return to each institution attended. College level work must be completed at an accredited institution to be considered for transfer credit. Work completed in technical programs is not normally considered for transfer, but students may take proficiency exams for credit at NC State in any field in which they feel qualified. Transfer credits are not evaluated until after the student has been admitted.

NC State University does not require SAT or ACT scores for transfer applications.

Students who graduated from high school in 1990 or later must meet Minimum Course Requirements (MCR) at the high school level, including:

4 years English
3 years Math (Algebra I, II and Geometry)
3 years Science
2 years Social Science (including US History)
2 years Foreign Language (beginning in 2004)

Students who do not meet MCR will be required to complete at the college level 6 semester hours each of English, mathematics, science and social science courses; or complete an Associate of Arts, Associate of Fine Arts or Associate of Science degree before transferring. Transfer students must also meet foreign language proficiency requirements (2 years of the same language in high school or 2 semesters at the college level) or they will be required to take foreign language upon enrollment at NC State.

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As for the past, yes that should be forgotten partially. The past can be both a good and bad reminder. A bad reminder of what we were, but a good reminder of what we have become and how far we have come away from the past. As for now, I would suggest that you contact someone in the department(as well as in admissions) and ask them about their program.

By Midwesterner (Midwesterner) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 09:14 pm: Edit

I once went to a lecture on choosing a career, and the advice given has stayed with me ever since. The speaker said, "Think about the kind of work you do for free. What do you really enjoy spending your time on?"

When I look at your profile, I see someone outside the mold of the high-profile university student. So, you're different. This is uncharted water, and you have to be your own guide. Ask yourself, What do you really enjoy?

Remember, your goal is not to be admitted to a certain college, but to get the college experience you need to have a sucessful life. With your golf background and business sense, you might wind up running a resort. Tally your strengths, and make a "business plan" to chart your goals and shore up your weaknesses. You have a lot going for you.

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 11:15 am: Edit

You look like a candidate for Carolina State but is that really where you want to be? Is it that different there than where you are? It is not easy to transfer more than once. Even one time is very disruptive emotionally.
Hopefully you are taking a calc course and other types of classes that are needed for your new interest. Engineering/computer sciences is a very difficult field. I had my head handed to me in the courses I took in that area and my son struggled in the few courses he took. Both he and I are considered very strong in math and we were well prepared in highschool for taking those classes. We had AP courses, high math scores in our testing profile. You may want to try this out first. If you are indeed determined to transfer, you may want to look at some schools outside of the south, smaller nurturing school that have the courses you need that can support this change in agenda. I don't know if a WPI or Stevens Inst, Rose Hulman or other "tech" type school would be something that makes sense. Maybe a Bucknell or Lafayette, really something even smaller and less high profile. Caroline, what small schools have small engineering, computer departements that would nurture a hardworking transfer with little experience but high motivation? I know Kettering in Michigan has an excellent department coupled with intensive work study internships in this field, and your stats are not too out of line with theirs. We did this (matching college with ability and goals in mind) with our girls who wanted to go to med schools but they did not have high test scores. We picked small schools with nurturing premed departments and a link to med school. It has worked pretty well--one is in med school and the other in college has a 4.0 after 3 semesters. Unlike my son who is graduating with a 2.4 at best from a highly competitive school. If you want to go into this field that is my heartfelt advice for you to do--find a school that can help you through this.
You may want to buy the book "10 Real SATs" and take a test under test conditions in the library. If you do a lot better than your current SAT1 score, maybe you can consider retaking in January. Work on the rest of the book, taking each test under test conditions in a library, checking each answer and making sure you understand the quesiton, then retaking the same test a day later with less time. You do that 10 times, your scores will go up. My nephew did retake the SAT1s in the middle of his year in a local college to assist his entry into a highly competitive school and his scores did go up quite a bit from his high school numbers. Though for transfers, your academic record at EAst Carolina is going to count the most, and you are looking pretty good there.
You have good reason to transfer, particularly with your change of major, you have a good work record at college, and now all you need is to do well in the new field you have decided to enter. If you are doing really well next term, get a ref from a teacher in that course, particularly a course specific to your new interest. Best of luck to you.

By Ohyeah07 (Ohyeah07) on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 01:55 pm: Edit

I have advice about your EC's - and don't take this the wrong way, it's good to be ambitious, but

DON'T join EC's just so you can put them on a college application. If you do that, it's just a waste of your time.

Don't ask for what EC's would really stand out because if you don't enjoy them, there's really no point.

Instead, you obviously want to get involved, so you should join EC's that YOU want to be a part of, what would be FUN for YOU. It's okay to go around, try various things and then continue what you like. That way you'll like to spend your time doing these things, and not just be dragging through them just so you can get into college.

My advice - lose the fixation of attending Harvard. Find a decent transfer school, and SPEND THE TIME learning all the stuff like calculus. I guarantee if you try to learn it all so fast you'll forget it all faster.
Spend four years in the college you transfer to, enjoy your life because you should, learn what you can at what pace you can, participate in what you want to participate it.

Remember this: some people go to Harvard and hate it. Go to a place where you'll be happy, and not just because you're attending a school with a big name. I guarantee going to Harvard isn't going to solve your other problems, but going to another school that is a better fit might.

Good luck

By Northstarmom (Northstarmom) on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:17 am: Edit

Ubiquitus,
Have you considered talking to a counselor? Your very sad response to seeing the threads on these boards indicates to me that what's going on may be another bout of depression, something that's not unusual in college students, even those without a history of depression.

Your idea that unless you get into an Ivy, you'll go through life feeling like a nothing is extremely unrealistic and pessimistic -- another sign of depression.

By Thedad (Thedad) on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 12:16 pm: Edit

Midwesterner's point of view is *outstanding.* Please take some of that to heart. Also pay attention to *both* paragraphs of Northstarmom's message. I can't really add anything useful beyond what they have said.

By Bluealien01 (Bluealien01) on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

Does anyone know if this person got the help they needed? They do sound like they are depressed again, and that makes it different from the other posters asking what their chances are here.

By Ebudes (Ebudes) on Friday, December 26, 2003 - 03:32 pm: Edit

Ubiquitus, although your chances to gaining admittance to Harvard or MIT are very slim, it is still possible. So, if I were you, I would make the best of every opportunity that knocks on my door. Speaking of opportunites, have you ever considered doing research? I know that both of those schools look favorably on applicants that have done some undergraduate research.


I have three more tips for you: One, do not rush yourself in math, because you might regret it later on. Two, while your studying up on your math, you should also study up on other decent computer science and/or engineering schools, such as Rochester Institute of Technology. Three, you really need to find a mentor, like a professor at your school, in computer science or engineering that could prove to be a source of direction and guidance. He or she could help you a lot more than posters on an Internet message board and will be bonus when it comes time to fill out those recommendation forms.

By Ebudes (Ebudes) on Friday, December 26, 2003 - 05:41 pm: Edit

Oh, you also have an upward trend in your grades, so that's always a plus in any adcom's book.