So how much does being an URM really help?

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By Culovv (Culovv) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:04 pm: Edit

Will it put a guy that would be in the 25 percentile into the acceptance pile? Im just wondering how much to rely on it. More specifically, at schools that are top 25, but not HYP. Actually ill just give a list.

U Mich - Ann Arbor
Washington in St. Louis
U Wisc - Madison
UNC - Chapel Hill

By Serdu (Serdu) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:21 pm: Edit

Post #'s and we can evaluate. You are asking an extremely general question if we don't have EC's, rank, grades, etc.

By Culovv (Culovv) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:16 pm: Edit

Well Ive posted my stats here before, but in this case i was asking for the general answer. Anyways, here are my stats:

GPA: 3.35 UW at a private prep school
SAT: 1310 (670 M / 640 V) no time to retake
SAT II: Writing 620 / IC 700 / US History 700. Retaking with writing, iic, and us history. Hoping for all 720+
ACT: Taking in dec so i can try make up for the low sat.
EC: Pretty crappy... not much leadership. no sports in the last 2 years (at school at least). A lot of community service. Most of my free time is spent reading or programming. Prefer C/C++. Major will be either neurobiology or astrophysics.
School doesnt rank.

By Northstarmom (Northstarmom) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:29 pm: Edit

According to a Sat. article in The Washington Post, colleges compete fiercely for blacks and Hispanics with SAT scores that put them on par with the most talented white students.The article quoted the College Board as saying that only 1,877 black students (about 1.5 percent of blacks who take the tests) scored higher than 1300 out of a possible 1600 on the SAT in 2003. Only 72 scored higher than 1500.

By Culovv (Culovv) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:51 pm: Edit

Yea i read that and was wondering what the stats were for hispanics. Hopefully they still want non-mexican hispanics with a 1310 :)

By Andrey1225 (Andrey1225) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:40 pm: Edit

i dont think they care what type of hispanic you are as long as the school can include you in their diversity charts

By Culovv (Culovv) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:48 pm: Edit

Well yea, but i just mentioned the non-mexican part because a majority of the hispanic students at top schools are mexican.

With all that said, what are my chances (percentage-wise if possible) at all of the schools on my list?



By Sprite888 (Sprite888) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:26 pm: Edit

in that Washington post article, i think there is an innaccuracy because they say that about 10 percent of the SAt testtakers (148000) scored a 1300 or above, and 13,500 out of 148000 scored a 1500. This would mean that the number of students who broke 1300 would be very close to those who broke 1500. this makes no sense in my opinion because a 1500 probally is much less frequent, am i wrong?

By Jimjunior (Jimjunior) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:29 pm: Edit

what are you talking about. You just said yourself that a 1500 is less than 10% as common as a 1300. I wouldnt call 13,500 and 148,000 "very close"

By Sprite888 (Sprite888) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:57 pm: Edit

no u misinterpreted, the article said that 10 percent of 148000 scored a 1300 or above and 13500 scored a 1500 or above. 13500 is almost 10 percent of 148000. Read the article, maybe im not reading it correctly.

By Thedad (Thedad) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 02:20 am: Edit

No, the post you're referencing was unclear. I commented at the time. The 148,000 was ten percent of the total, approx 1.4 million.

It should have read something like: "...148,000, 10 percent of the total test takers, scored more than 1300."

By Culovv (Culovv) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 07:25 pm: Edit


By Culovv (Culovv) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 03:19 am: Edit

Any other opinions? My chances (percentage-wise)?

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