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By Metz (Metz) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:53 pm: Edit

I saw you posting stats from "The Early Admissions Game." I was wondering if you could tell me the % of unhooked people with 1510 SAT's that get into the following schools (I know there are many factors besides SAT's, but nonetheless):
Columbia ED and RD
Princeton RD
Harvard RD
UPenn RD
Brown RD

And if they have any of the following schools:
Northwestern RD
Georgetown RD

Thanks a LOT for any information

By Cameronhu (Cameronhu) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:55 pm: Edit

I second that. do you have some sort of formula or table? if so- penn with a 1580, please.

By Cameronhu (Cameronhu) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:55 pm: Edit

I second that. do you have some sort of formula or table? if so- penn with a 1580, please. ed.

By Metz (Metz) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 06:59 pm: Edit

From her posts, it seems as if they give percents for each hundred points (i.e. 1300,1400, etc). So mine would be a bit over the chances of a 1500 and yours would be a bit below the ahances of a 1600.

By Neona (Neona) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 07:06 pm: Edit

Fifty percent at MIT (without factoring in hooks) is a very sweet deal...


I feel special.

Boo you, Neo! (jk)

By Andrey1225 (Andrey1225) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 07:15 pm: Edit

I'll go one slot lower and ask my chances for these schools:

stanford
upenn
cornell
pomona
UCLA
UC berkeley

with a 1450

Although (as the admissions board likes us to think) theres a lot more to your app than testing...

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 09:27 am: Edit

bump

By Alextmw (Alextmw) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 11:26 am: Edit

admissions people are serious when they say theres a lot more to it than SATs. come on, you know better.

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 06:07 pm: Edit

>>admissions people are serious when they say theres a lot more to it than SATs. come on, you know better.

Couple of things:
1. I already know that. In fact I posted that very same comment in my post.
2. Other things matter but your kidding youself if you don't think SAT is a HUGE part of admissions to the top schols. Look at the acceptance #'s of Ivy's with students that scored a 1300, 1400, 1500, or 1600. The acceptance rates are quite different.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:26 pm: Edit

Metz-
Chances with a 1510 (i'll give you % for 1500 since you are so close) unhooked:
Columbia RD: 36.8% ED: 91.5%
Princeton RD: 25.5%
Harvard RD: 8.6%
Penn RD: 63.2%
Brown RD: 14.7%
Georgetown RD: 71.2%
Sorry, no info. on Northwestern. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:29 pm: Edit

Cameronhu: Yes, the book "The Early Admissions Game: Joining the Elite" has a table with the estimated chance of admission to 14 colleges as a function of SAT score.
Penn 1580-(ill give you chances with a 1600, just know that yours are slightly less...the scores are evaluated only be 100s.)
ED: 99.1%
RD: 87.0%
Good luck!

By Pistolpete (Pistolpete) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:33 pm: Edit

Kkgirl06, do you have Tufts ED/RD?
Please and *hopefully* thanks. Does it have SAT IIs too?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:35 pm: Edit

Andrey:
Chances with a 1450-
Stanford RD: 24.6% EA: 44.2%
Penn RD: 47.9% ED: 86.8%
Cornell RD: 56.6% ED: 80.1%
Sorry, no info. on your other schools.
Good luck!

By Justinfiddler (Justinfiddler) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:41 pm: Edit

kkgirl can you look these up too?

1380 u of chicago, u of virginia, georgia tech

By Justinfiddler (Justinfiddler) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:41 pm: Edit

kkgirl can you look these up too?

1380 u of chicago, u of virginia, georgia tech

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 07:44 pm: Edit

Kkgirl, do you know what year/s these stats were taken from? Thanks for any info.

By Stillwaters (Stillwaters) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:02 pm: Edit

KKGirl, I know you're being bombarded....

but can you do Yale EA and Penn RD 1490?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:38 pm: Edit

Pistolpete:
Sorry, but the book does not have specific stats on Tufts.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:42 pm: Edit

Ok, here are the 14 colleges that the data was compiled for:
Boston College
Brown
Chicago
Georgetown
Harvard
MIT
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmout
Duke
Penn
Princeton
Stanford
Yale

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:46 pm: Edit

Justinfiddler:
1380 for Chicago (Since it's so close to 1400, I'll give you stats for 1400...they only go by 100s...just assume that your chances are slightly lower)
Regular Decision: 95.1%
Early Action: 99.0%
Wow. Great chances either way. Sorry no info. on Virginia or Georgie Tech. Good luck, but you won't likely need it!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:48 pm: Edit

Metz:
Some stats were from the 1999-2000 College Admissions Project, some were directly from the 14 colleges that participated for five years...1990-1 to 1996-7. The authors understand that the results are a little dated, but provide sufficient info. supporting their hypothesis that the stats and percentages won't change very much at all over the course of 10 years. 505,054 applicants total.

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:49 pm: Edit

Cool. Thanks for the info.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:52 pm: Edit

Stillwaters:
1490 (I'll give you the stats for 1500 because you are so close and they only go by 100s, just know that your chances are ever so slightly less)
Yale EA: 49.1%
Penn RD: 63.2%
Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:53 pm: Edit

Metz did you ED at Columbia? I hope you did because you have such great chances.

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:55 pm: Edit

Even though the ratio of ED/RD would probably stay the same, the stats for getting into the schools would change pretty drastically because in 1995 the SATs were recentered which means that for some of the higher scores it could make up to 100 point differences in SAT scores. In other words, a 1550 now is significantly lower than a 1550 was before '95. Now if those stats were from 2000, they would still be pretty accurate.

By Metz (Metz) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:56 pm: Edit

Yeah I did ED at Columbia, and from reading those stats, it looks like I definatly made the right decision.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Later guys, I'm retiring for the evening, so don't feel bad if I don't answer your messages tonight...I'll get to all of them tomorrow. I just realized that I have tons of homework to do. I'll probably be back around 3 tomorrow afternoon so leave me some messages and I'll get back to ya.

By Elgorila (Elgorila) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 11:11 pm: Edit

kkgirl, can you please look up the following:

sat: 1510

Princeton ED
Cornell RD
Yale RD

By Pistolpete (Pistolpete) on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 11:22 pm: Edit

kkgirl, could you please tell me the % for Georgetown RD w/ 1400? Thanks.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 11:47 am: Edit

Elgorila:
Chances with a 1510 (I'll give you the stats for 1500 since you are so close)
Princeton ED: 86.4%
Cornell RD: 70.4%
Yale RD: 21.8%
Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 11:48 am: Edit

Pistolpete:
Georgetown RD with a 1400:26.3%
Good luck!

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Kkgirl:

I know mad people are asking you about their chances, but I was wondering if you some spare time if you'd help me out.

What are my chances at...:
(You can get my stats from "rate my dismal chances"..just do ctrl F and type in dismal)

Boston College
Brown
Georgetown
Harvard
Cornell
Yale

thanks

By Saccharine (Saccharine) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:13 pm: Edit

Wow. Princeton ED: 86.4% with 1500!!! that sounds improbable... Coz I've got 1520 with some sorts of small hooks (e.g. being a Polish girl who wants to major in engineering, low-income family, first-generation student, predicted 41/42 on IB Diploma) but I'm awaiting a rejection or, hopefully, being deferred. I totally bombed my Nov SAT II Physics and even my SAT I score isn't gonna save me...

By Saccharine (Saccharine) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:20 pm: Edit

Sorry, I forgot to thank Kkgirl06 for the data :). They gave me a little hope.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:34 pm: Edit

Saccharine:
Sorry, I really don't mean to give you any false hope, but I double-checked the book and your chances stand at 86.4%-unhooked, based on nothing but the SAT I. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 03:43 pm: Edit

Virgo, chances with a 1400: (I'm assuming that these are all regular decision...if you did apply somewhere EA or ED let me know and I'll look those up too).
Boston College: 90.8%
Brown: 4.9%
Georgetown: 26.3%
Harvard: 0.1%
Cornell: 42.7%
Yale: 4.6%
Good luck!

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 04:12 pm: Edit

Kkgirl-

Thanks so much.

Take care.

By Smithy88 (Smithy88) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

KKgirl you think you could give me my chances EA to Boston College with a 1490? thanks

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 05:05 pm: Edit

Smithy: chances EA to B.C. with a 1490 (I'll give you stats for 1500 since they only go by 100s) are 98.7%.
Good luck, though I highly doubt you'll need it!

By Metz (Metz) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 05:14 pm: Edit

Question from someone else: 1400 EA Georgetown chances?

By Mahras (Mahras) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 05:19 pm: Edit

KKgirl, I am not going to ask for any looking ups but which book is this data in? Thanks

By Justinfiddler (Justinfiddler) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 07:53 pm: Edit

kkgirl, you know what you should do?

you might just want to put up the whole list instead of typing it everytime

you could probably start at 1300 and all you have to do is type the college name and four numbers

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 09:29 pm: Edit

Metz: question from someone else, 1400 EA @ Georgetown is 49.1%

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 09:32 pm: Edit

Mahras: The data is from "The Early Admissions Game: Joining the Elite" by Avery et. al. The specific data table I'm referencing is p.160, Table 5.2.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 09:49 pm: Edit

Justin-I did think about it, but 4 SAT ranges for 14 schools and 2 stats (ED/RD) for each was a little excessive. Then again I will probably post the table tomorrow if there continues to be such demand for these stats.

By Deusexmachaera (Deusexmachaera) on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 10:17 pm: Edit

Mit EA for a 1540? Thanks.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:25 am: Edit

Deusex: MIT EA 1540 (1500-1600 SAT range) is 75.4-94.4%. You fall really close to the middle of that range...sorry, I didnt feel like averaging it.

By Elgorila (Elgorila) on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:14 pm: Edit

kkgirl, thanks a lot, you have set my mind at ease :)

By Shabadew (Shabadew) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 02:29 am: Edit

Harvard with a 1420?

By Laceycheer (Laceycheer) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:18 am: Edit

Dartmouth ED (if they have it), or EA...if my Nov sats come back in the 1320-1350 range? Hooked by being Native American.

By Maxkosman (Maxkosman) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 12:18 pm: Edit

Penn ED-1440--could you give me hooked AND unhooked since I am a small legacy--thank you SOOO much

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 01:44 pm: Edit

What does hooked/unhooked mean?

By Kaelthas (Kaelthas) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:22 pm: Edit

What about Cornell ED with a 1430?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:41 pm: Edit

Shabadew: Chances at Harvard with a 1400 RD are 0.1% and 5.0% EA. Your chances are very slightly higher since you have a 1420.

By Camferg (Camferg) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:43 pm: Edit

kk, if you get a sec, 1600 princeton ED? thanks so much.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:45 pm: Edit

Laceycheer: Unhooked, chances for Dartmouth ED with a 1350 are 37.3%.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:49 pm: Edit

Maxkosman: the book I'm referencing does not give data for hooked applicants--only unhooked. Penn ED with a 1440 is around 86.8%. Actually, 86.8% is for 1450 so you're chances are ever so slightly less. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:53 pm: Edit

Virgo: A "hooked" applicant is for example an underrepresented minority, a legacy, or a recruited athlete. Their chances for admission to that school are much greater than that of any regular applicant. "The Early Admissions Game" doesn't count hooked applicants because they do not represent the chances of the general applicant pool and it would be impossible to quantify their exact chances--the worth of each hooked applicant varies for each school.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:55 pm: Edit

Kaelthas: Chances at Cornell ED with a 1430 are between 70.5% and 80.1%. These are the chances for a 1400 and 1450 applicant so you fall right in between.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:58 pm: Edit

Camferg: Chances at Princeton ED with a 1600 are 97.9%.

By Camferg (Camferg) on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 11:59 pm: Edit

thanks a lot, kk, this is very selfless of you

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 12:08 am: Edit

98%...seems really high to me

What about Harvard EA 1600?

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 02:14 am: Edit

bump

By Collegeguy (Collegeguy) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 02:50 am: Edit

These numbers seem a little too optimistic...especially for schools like Harvard, Princeton, and Stanford. But thanks Kkgirl06 for the effort:)

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Canadian: I double-checked Princeton EA with a 1600 and it is 97.7%. Harvard EA is 61.4%

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 05:21 pm: Edit

Are you sure this stuff is accurate Kkgirl?

Asian Americans (South Asians) wouldn't be considered minority would they? :-\ lol I'm desperate.

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Please keep in mind that the percentage being used are quite old and some use uncentered SATs. Also in the last year there has been somewhat of a tempest over Early Decision and college admissions offices are sensitive to bad publicity especially when it involves favoring the priviliged as Early plans do. So any of those numbers are for what has happened and may or may not hold up for this year or the future.
Still human nature being what it is, I would venture that applying early is always favorable. In rolling admissions it is important as seat can fill up fast.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 06:30 pm: Edit

I understand the that all of this info. is relatively old, but the book was published in 2003 and I highly doubt that these authors would publish dramatically inaccurate statistics. Keep in mind that this data is NOT DIRECTLY INTENDED TO PREDICT ADMISSIONS CHANCES--it is only meant to give the stats of over 500,000 applicants to the 14 above llsted institutions. The main goal of this data is to prove the clear advantage (in most colleges) that applying early gives to applicants. However, since such a large compilation of data is available, it is difficult not to compare one's chances of admission against these statistics.

By Stanfordhopeful (Stanfordhopeful) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 06:58 pm: Edit

Wow. Those numbers are high.

Anyways, can you give chances for Dartmouth ED with a 1500?

By Canadian_Idol (Canadian_Idol) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 07:34 pm: Edit

Thanks kkgirl!
I was thinking that Harvard rejects 60% instead of 40% of 1600s...so a bit of light at the end of the tunnel there.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 08:37 pm: Edit

Stanfordhopeful: ED at Dartmouth with a 1500-92.1%

By Chasgoose (Chasgoose) on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:37 pm: Edit

I have also read the Early Admissions Game and while the book is very useful it is not entirely perfect. I would just like to point out a few problems this book has.

1. Yale and Stanford are ED not EA (understandably because there is no data for the new EA) and Brown is EA not ED in this book so their early data is going to be a little skewed.

2. The data is slightly outdated, meaning that in all categories, the percentages are a little lower.

3. The stats are based entirely on unhooked SAT scores so there is no telling how diverse the study actually was outside of the scorers (for example, what if the slacker percentage was a lot lower than usual?)

I think the more important point of the chart that Kkgirl06 is quoting from is not the actual percentages, because they are all lower, but the differences between ED and RD. For example, at Columbia and Princeton, the difference for someone with a 1500 is about 50% and I think this year with the new single choice EA the difference will only increase because the ED pools at Princeton and Columbia will be significantly less competitive than usual and their RD pools are going to be more competitive because they are filled with all the HYS deffered/rejects. That huge difference is true for most schools except Boston College (which strangely admits fewer EA applicants than RD ones) and Harvard (where the difference is not that great, but it is enough to make it clear that if you want to get into Harvard you better apply EA).

By Pimpdaddy (Pimpdaddy) on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 12:36 pm: Edit

Princeton ED: 86.4% with 1500, 98% with a 1600 ????
You've got to be f**king kidding me, that seems incredibly high. 98% chance with 1600 might be plausible but an almost 90% shot if ure a 1500???? It would make me feel really really really good if all this is true, but it just seems mighty shady.

By Metz (Metz) on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 01:19 pm: Edit

Read the posts above yours to explain why those percents are so high.

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 02:55 pm: Edit

The authors are not printing incorrect statistics. I believe the book is quite on the mark. But it is commenting on the past, and there has been a lot of fallout from this report. Admissions offices tend to be reactive about criticism, particularly when it revolve around favoring the already favored--the well educated, well to do candidate. I am just pointing this out. Already several schools have switched from ED to EA and are swearing that they will be watching for this kind of favoritism in their early candidates. I believe that there is still a huge benefit to applying early but with so many eyes currently on the "Early Game", those statistics are not going to hold as fast as they would have, say the year before the book came out.
Now there are schools like Columbia and UPenn who are unabashedly pro-early dec and have publically proclaimed they will continue as ever. But some schools, notably Notre Dame are saying that they are going to scrutinize the early apps this year and only the superior need apply--they have pretty much said that on their application pages of their web site.
Chasgoos, I'm not sure what you mean about BC. My data says that BC accepted 44% of their 2002 entering class early as opposed to only 29% regular admissions. More than a third (34%) of the class was accepted early that year. I only know a handful of the very highly selective schools who accept more kids early, than regularly. (Harvard being one of them) Even UPenn who openly loves and aggressively uses ED to fill its class accepted more of its freshmen that year regular decision.
I am not disputing your data,or the book's info,Kkgirl. I am just cautioning its applicability in light of what is happening today.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 08:03 pm: Edit

Hey guys,
I hope the information I've provided from the book "The Early Admissions Game" has helped you to get a better idea of your chances for admission. Now I need the help of you GENIUSES! I would really appreciate it if you can take a couple minutes and give me some feedback on MY chances.


I am applying to Emory ED. Based on my stats, what do you think my chances of acceptance are? Any input is greatly appreciated.

UW G.P.A.: 3.91
W G.P.A.: 4.55
Class Rank: 9 out of 507 (top 1.775%)
Classes: I've taken the most rigorous courseload throughout h.s. including all honors and A.P.'s.
Senior Year Classes:
A.P. Calculus A.B.
A.P. Economics (Macro and Micro)
A.P. English Lang. and Comp.
Honors Physics
Honors Spanish 5
Honors Probability and Statistics

I took A.P. Biology (4) and A.P. U.S. History (4) in my junior year.

SAT I: 1280 :(

Rec's: Very enthusiastic, one from A.P. English teacher and the other from the head of volunteer services at my hospital.

Essays: Great (in my opinion) thanks to Essayedge.com

EC's:
National Honor Society
Spanish Honor Society
Spanish tutor
350 hours as Hospital Volunteer
Key Club
Varsity Basketball
Varsity Tennis
National Youth Leadership Forum on Medicine

I have showed tons of interest in Emory, including a Local Emory Reception, Emory DVD, mailing list,college fair...basically everything short of visiting. Also, on Emory's app. I listed an alumni who is a relative of mine (but not close enough to make me a legacy).

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 08:24 am: Edit

Visit. Get a cheap ticket and visit. They count the visit very heavily. With the visit you haaae a good chance. I know kids with stat higher than your deferred and waitlisted, and accepted to schools with higher selectivity; they did not visit. This is the one school ( there are some that I recommend a visit) that I would insist on a visit.

By Dadx (Dadx) on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:15 am: Edit

Visiting can't hurt, but I suspect that even though Emory is one of the schools that tracks contacts, it would seem to me that this is not very relevant for ED applicants.
The tracking of interest relates largely to yield, which is 100% for ED applicants.

Its also the reason that places like Yale don't care much about tracking contacts, etc. They have a high yield anyway. In fact the Yale FAQ essentially says "don't call us, we'll call you". Reading between the lines, they are apparently annoyed by some of the more obsessed applicants.

PS

KK--alumni is plural. alumnus is singular, usually male, alumna is singular, female.
Would help your app significantly, IMO, if your scores were a little higher. Consider taking them one more time and if you dont get the result you want, just dont send them in.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 05:16 pm: Edit

thanks bump

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 06:41 pm: Edit

BUMP

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 06:41 pm: Edit

BUMP

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 06:53 pm: Edit

I think you have a really good shot.

By Voigtrob (Voigtrob) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 06:55 pm: Edit

Holy crudness... I hope these stats are somewhat accurate, haha... I have a 1500 and did ED to Princeton. ;P

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:14 pm: Edit

Voigtrob: The stats are from harvard researchers--a book called "The Early Admissions Game: Joining the Elite." It was just published this year so i can't imagine the stats being terribly inaccurate but they got their data from studies that are several years old. Their main objective wasn't to give an outlook on chances but to emphasize how big of an impact applying early has on the chances.

BUMP Please

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:17 pm: Edit

P.S. Jamimom and dadx: I just scheduled a visit but it is not until after ED decisions are made. Will they still put a note in my file saying that i arranged a visit? Do you think this will help at all?

By Mjl86 (Mjl86) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:24 pm: Edit

Kkgirl06

1410 sat brown rd
780 math2c
740 chem
670 writing

going into plme or biological sciences
and what would you consider a hook?
maybe's volunteering at hospital?

thanks

By Ceetotheizzle (Ceetotheizzle) on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:41 pm: Edit

kkgirl chances at emory ed are around 30%.Its the sat score thats hurting

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:31 am: Edit

could you tell me what i can do to better my chances, ceetotheizzle? are you an emory student?

By Collegeboy123 (Collegeboy123) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:40 am: Edit

whats the site name where u find this info?

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:20 am: Edit

I think you should visit to let the admissions department know how interested you are because you may be deferred mainly due to you SAT1. As dadx suggested, I think you should plan to retake the SAT1 in January. Study, study for them over the winter break. Buy two copies of 10 Real SATs. Do a test. Check it. Look at the ones you got wrong and make sure you understand the correct answers. Retake the same test a day later, giving yourself less time. Go to a public library so you don't have home distractions. If you do not do as well in the January test ( I personally believe you will do much better, given the courses you are taking this year, and if you prep for the SAT1 and maturity factors), you don't have to send the scores to anyone since all your colleges have the old scores. If you do well, let 'er rip.
So if you are deferred, you'll have the visit, the ED app and the (hopefully higher) new scores in addition to a difficult set of senior courses.
If you are accepted, it would be before winter break , and hey, you can celebrate. Does Emory have a ED2 program? I know some schools who do. But Emory is a school that puts a heavy premium on the interest a student has in going to their school. With Ed you are showing the ultimate commitment, and if they hesitate, you are telling them, you still really want to go there.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:48 am: Edit

Thanks jamimom. Did you read "The Early Admissions Game?" How do you feel about the author's theory that applying early raises your SAT I score 100 points? (Actually, from the data the authors say that applying EA is equivalent to a 100 point increase but applying ED is more like a 190 point increase.)This would bring me up to a 1380 (or higher, based on the author's ED results) which is Emory's average SAT score. I have taken the SAT 3 times already and thats why I'm hesitant to retake it. Yes, Emory does have an ED II but that won't affect me at all because I've applied for ED I. According to the book, the authors (Harvard researchers,if tht means anything) dispell the myth that those applying early are better than the average RD applicant at any particular school. While this is true for EA applicants, they found that ED applicants are slightly less qualified than the average applicant pool in RD. Could this help me at all, since I am in Emory's 25th percentile for SAT's? I will be competing against other applicants who are slightly less qualified as well. Finally, do you think that my above average rank and GPA will help the admissions officers to overlook my less than average SAT score? Any response is greatly appreciated.

By Bing04 (Bing04) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 01:35 pm: Edit

ok heres some work for you

harvard RD- ACT 30
whoop, i threw an act score in thurr for ya :)

bing04

By Quagmire (Quagmire) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 03:16 pm: Edit

hehe, me too

MIT RD & Stanford RD with 1430 SAT

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:04 pm: Edit

Bing- sorry, but the study only included SAT scores. What SAT score is that 30 equivalent to? Let me know and I'll get back to ya.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:08 pm: Edit

Quagmire- I'll give you the percentages with a 1400 and 1450...you'll fall right in the middle.
Stanford: 10.9-24.6% RD
MIT: 35.4-52.8%
Good luck!


Could anybody else comment on my chances @ Emory?

By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:18 pm: Edit

Chances for a 1400 RD at:

U. Chicago
Cornell
Princeton
Dartmouth
Columbia (both engineering and reg if you have them engineering)
Penn

Thanks!!!

By Notable (Notable) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 07:12 pm: Edit

Kkgirl06,

Would you mind posting the admissions rate for 1600s applying to Yale during its early action cycle?

Thank you!

- Notable

By Mjl86 (Mjl86) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:12 pm: Edit

jamimom,

does your straetgy really work? taking sats 20 times 20*3 = 60 hours
i know that it takes less than three hours with the omition of one section, but you need time to check answers.

Personally, I do not think that would effectively help. In my case, i got really high on math on practice ranging from 760-800 so i didn't send any time on that. Unless you have 60 hours to spare within the next 2.5 weeks, i would not do every tests twice, but instead focus on your weak points. Me for example, I sucked at critical reading, partly because I'm a chinese immigrant, so I focused on that part for an hour every day. My psat was a 1300. and when i took the sat the first time i got a 1410. too bad i got lower in math 760. anyways, should i retake sats? i probably took 5 real sats and all the real princetonreview sats, and kaplan sat verbals.


and montydsw11, you are applying to the exact same schools as me, what are you planning on majoring in?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:36 pm: Edit

Monty, chances with a 1400 RD...
Chicago 95.1%
Cornell 42.7%
Princeton 5.5%
Dartmouth 26.6%
Columbia 9.0%
Penn 32.7%
Sorry, they didn't have engineering...only overall acceptance rates

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:39 pm: Edit

Notable- 1600 Yale ED*: 81.3%
*Please note that mostly all of this data was compiled when Yale still had early decision and had yet to change to EA. I'm not sure how this would affect the chances.

By Mitch (Mitch) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:40 pm: Edit

I think you all should be aware that the data chart cited above from 'The Early Admissions Game' is based on both SAT I AND SAT II scores. Below is an excerpt from the book in reference to the chart that is easily overlooked as it is not on the same page as the chart:

"To refine our figures, we estimated the chances of admission for a hypothetical male applicant who is approximately average within the survey in terms of activities and high school attended, and who has no other distinguishing characteristics. We assess the prospects of this average student four times, giving him four different sets of test scores varying from 650 to 800 on each of five SAT tests (the SAT-1 verbal and math, and three SAT-2 subject tests)" (Avery 159).

...so the chances for a 1500 applicant are only 'valid' if an average of 750 has been attained for all five tests. Even then, these percentages can only be considered as extremely loose approximations.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:44 pm: Edit

Emory anyone? ^^^ Please?

By Notable (Notable) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:04 pm: Edit

kkgirl,

Thanks for the figure.

I think you have an excellent chance of getting into Emory. Your SAT score, though slightly below average for the school, is more than made up for by your high GPA, swell AP scores, and amazing ECs.

By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:13 pm: Edit

WOW... 1400 RD at chicago is 95%

That is shocking...

By Mnm86 (Mnm86) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 09:36 pm: Edit

please...could you give me the chances for a 1430? (V. 770, M. 660)
Columbia ED and RD
Chicago RD
Princeton RD
Harvard RD
Brown RD
Barnard RD
Yale RD
thank you very much

By Sunshine916 (Sunshine916) on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:19 pm: Edit

1540 and 760 avg for 3 SAT II (since apparently its relevant? im retaking one so it will be higher)...

Princeton ED/RD
Cornell RD
Yale RD
MIT RD

thanks!

btw i think your chances for Emory is great. i know a freshman there who got in with a 1210 SAT/top 5%/similar EC's as you. she didnt even apply ED :) and her essays werent that great...

By Chasgoose (Chasgoose) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:46 am: Edit

For all you people asking kkgirl about your chances, you only need to give her your SAT 1 scores. There is just a page of summary of admissions chances at certain schools based on SAT scores. Giving her other information will not make much of a difference. Also the stats are only given in 50 or 100 point intervals so if you have an SAT score that is not on one of those given intervals just round up and look through this post I am sure that you will find your admission stats have already been given.

By Navygirl18 (Navygirl18) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:23 am: Edit

hey you guys keep bombarding kkgirl with stats to look up the book and repeat for you, without even giving her your opinion on her chances. i don't think thats very nice.. kinda selfish, as opposed to all the help tt kkgirl has given!

anyway kk, i'm an international applying to emory ED II and i got 1290.. from what i fathom, its really competitive to get into (but no super selective) but either way i think tt it would be better if (both of us!) hit 1300 and above.

personally i think u have a good chance.. as long as your personal essay/essays and all tt are good! so dun worry! :) did you take SAT II? might help....

By Sillygilly (Sillygilly) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 01:31 am: Edit

KKgirl-- would you mind rating my chances at Dartmouth ED? 1450.

About Emory-- I think you have a really solid chance, especially with all of your ECs and your high class rank. It shows good work ethic that you are 9th. I think you'll get in.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:47 am: Edit

Mnm86:1430 (I'll give 1450...)
Columbia ED 77.95% RD 22.9%
Chicago RD 97.4%
Princeton RD 15.5%
Harvard RD 4.35%
Brown RD 9.8%
No data for Banard
Yale RD 13.2%
*Again,remember that these perentages are based on SAT I of 1450. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:52 am: Edit

Sunshine: 1540 SAT I (I'll give you stats for 1550)
Princeton ED 75.6% RD 43.3%
Cornell RD 79.95%
Yale RD 38.6%
MIT RD 81.3%
Good luck!

Know anything about Emory??

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 11:55 am: Edit

Sillygilly: Dartmouth ED with a 1450 74.% Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:05 pm: Edit

Sillygilly: Dartmouth ED with a 1450 is 74.5%. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:07 pm: Edit

Mjl86: Brown RD with a 1410 (I'll give you 1400) is 4.9%. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:10 pm: Edit

Navygirl,
Good luck! I hope we both get in. I am not taking the SAT again since I've already taken it 3 times and I applied ED I. Good luck on hitting 1300 and higher. I think that being international will help you even more because they really look for diversity.

By Sillygilly (Sillygilly) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

sorry kkgirl, one more for my friend--
Brown ED with a 1350? 1400?

By the way, what does your book say YOUR chances are for Emory? Did you retake the SAT? That might help, but honestly I think you stand a good chance regardless. I'm not just saying that because you're the "SAT admission chances" bitch for us, either. Good luck.

By Elgorila (Elgorila) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 05:57 pm: Edit

kkgirl, you said the following:

1550 Princeton ED 75.6%
1500 Princeton ED: 86.4%

Could you please verify those percentages.

And could you also look up

1500
Carnegie Mellon RD
U Chicago RD
Johns Hopkins RD

Thanks a lot.

BTW, I would give you my guess of your chances at Emory, but I don't know anything about the school. Your help is appreciated though.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 05:58 pm: Edit

Lol, thanks sillygilly. Actually, the book only has data compiled for 14 schools; emory is not included:
Boston College
Brown
Chicago
Georgetown
Harvard
MIT
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmout
Duke
Penn
Princeton
Stanford
Yale
And no, I'm not going to retake the SAT. I've already taken them 3 times and I'm applying ED I so those scores wouldn't reach emory by that time. Anyways, Brown ED with a 1350 is 9.05% and 1400 is 13.7%.

By Sillygilly (Sillygilly) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 08:50 pm: Edit

oh cool! Would you mind checking 1450 RD for princeton, stanford, georgetown, cornell and duke? You are seriusly awesome for doing this, I would get annoyed with this board real fast, especially with the kids who don't give you feedback.

By Mnm86 (Mnm86) on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:43 pm: Edit

thanks so much for your input! i'm sure the many people you've helped are immensly grateful (most of the news is so good as well..that must help!)

i don't know much about emory but can tell you this:
2 people from my hs got in last year, and i don't think either of them had NEARLY as good credentials (though i admit having no idea what their sat's were)

also, keep in mind that admissions officers know the sat is not perfect, and there has been a recent backlash against the test (as shown by all the schools that don't require it anymore). so in fact, the rest of your app is much more important. furthermore, your credentials are so impressive that they should come to the conclusion that you're a very smart student, but the sat happens not to be catered to your strengths. good luck, i'm feeling optimistic for you!

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 12:05 am: Edit

I have the book. And yes, I have read the book. And it did confirm what I always suspected about ED. Wasn't as sure about EA, so it was interesting to find out that the early bird does get the worm even when the app is not binding.
The only problem I have with the data in the book is that now that the book as been published, there has been a lot of brougha about the information. There have been accusations of discrimination against low income and minorities in the early game since those groups are not at all well represented in the early pool. So there might be a counter reaction to all of this. In fact, Yale switched to EA and some schools are posting stern warnings that early apps should be stronger than the regular pools with some actual stats given (Notre Dame, for one). Other schools, (UPenn and Columbia) have publically stated that they do not agree with the accusations and will stick to their favorable ED policies. So the only problem I have with the stats in the book is that they are past stats, not current or future and that the book is published and in our current politically correct mode, there could be a backlash.
As for Emory, I suspect they will continue to heavily use ED. They are a school that appears on too many top kids' lists as a safety school, and therefore they get a much lower yield than they like. ED really helps them with that issue. They are also a school that really tracks your contacts with them.
I know several Emory students and they absolutely love the school. My son visited Emory but decided he did not want to apply there, and now regrets it. He talked a lot about transfering to Emory but never got himself busy doing the paperwork. He did not like any of the southern schools, something he feels was a mistake after suffering through a few nasty winters. Also where he is going is a bit short on amenities of which Emory has much of. It is a beautiful college and enjoys a wonderful reputation. I think you made a great choice.
As you probably already know, no one can really tell you what the admissions office will do. As I said in earlier posts, I would retake the SATs in Jan and if you don't get into Emory ED, and are defered, send them the new scores if they are higher. My son took his SAT1s for the fourth time in January, for scholarship purposes, and was stunned to find the biggest improvement. He sent them off to all of his school with a note that he had retaken them to qualify for a scholarship for which his SAT fell just a bit short, but since he did get such a nice improvement, he decided to share the scores . I don;t think it hurt his chances at all. He did well with his colleges. The 3 time rule is not cast in stone.
My son was waitlisted at 3 schools and cleared the list on one, did not hear from one and did not bother to ask to stay on the list for the third. You just never know how these things go, and at the 11th hour when they look at a file, all of the little things, the visit, the retest , the interest, can come into play.
I have my fingers crossed for you. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

By Navygirl18 (Navygirl18) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 11:17 am: Edit

hey kkgirl,
thanks for encouragement! anyway i agree with jamimom abt the 3 times thing not being cast in stone. but in the case of one guy on the board who took it 5(!) times and got 1400, i think tt despite his good score tt was a biiiitt excessive.

anyway your GPA and rank says ALOT more!

i'm applying ED II and tking SAT II on dec 6 (first time) so wont get to tk SAT I again till Jan. so will just have to try my luck with a 1290 (580M 710V) and hope for the best!

emory says SAT II is optional.. but i'm taking it anyway for other schools.

kk could u check chances w 1290 for chicago, columbia,duke and georgetown? would really appreciate it.. :)

and lastly does emory place any weightage on SAT II (even though its opt)?

By Bradknicks (Bradknicks) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 11:25 am: Edit

What about Boston University with a 1500 sat, regular decision??

By Bradknicks (Bradknicks) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

What about Boston University with a 1500 sat, regular decision??

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

By Bradknicks (Bradknicks) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

What about Boston University with a 1500 sat, regular decision??

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

By Bradknicks (Bradknicks) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 02:04 pm: Edit

never mind my posts. i see that BU wasn't included

By Sillygilly (Sillygilly) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 06:19 pm: Edit

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By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:44 pm: Edit

Elgorila and Sunshine:
I double-checked those stats, and Princeton ED with a 1500 is 86.4% but a 1550 ED is 92.2%. I realize that I got 75.6% from Stanford ED with a 1550.. Sorry for the confusion. Anyways, Chicago RD with a 1500 is 99.7%. CMU and Hopkins are not in the table. Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:52 pm: Edit

Thanks for your insight, Jamimom.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:58 pm: Edit

Sillygilly, chances with a 1450 RD:
Princeton 15.5%
Stanford 24.6%
Georgetown 48.9%
Cornell 56.6%
Duke 34.7%
Good luck!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:05 pm: Edit

Navygirl, I really don't know how much if any weight Emory puts on SAT II's. Chances RD with a 1290 (I'll show you stats for 1300 because the table only goes by 100s)
Chicago 69.8%
Duke 0.1%
Columbia 0.1%
Georgetown 3.4%
Well, Chicago looks good! Good luck on your SAT II's!

By Metz (Metz) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:16 pm: Edit

OMG. Please tell me you're joking about your chances of getting into BU with a 1500.

By Thaiguy (Thaiguy) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:21 pm: Edit

Kkgirl06

could u please tell me the chances with 1500

UPenn - ED/RD
Cornell - RD
Brown - RD
Tufts - RD
UVA - RD
UNC - RD

thanks :)

By Metz (Metz) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:27 pm: Edit

Thaiguy, no offense, but just scroll up for the answers. She has given 1500 RD for UPenn, Cornell, and Brown already. She also gave a list of schools that she had the stats for(14 of them), and Tufts, UVA, and UNC were not on it.

By Fallentear04 (Fallentear04) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 08:41 pm: Edit

Could you check a 1460 EA at Georgetown?

Good luck with Emory, by the way. I'm not really that familiar with their college admissions, but I do wish you the best of luck. And thanks for having patience with all of us.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:17 pm: Edit

Thaiguy, chanecs at the following with a 1500:
Penn ED 94.5% RD 63.2%
Cornell RD 70.45%
Brown RD 14.7%
Good luck

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:20 pm: Edit

Fallentear, chances at Georgetown EA with a 1460 (I'll give u 1450) are 68.5%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:32 pm: Edit

Wow. I never knew Brown was so dificult to get into and Chicago and BC so easy. For lowest acceptance rates (for example, with SAT of 1500 RD) for these 14 schools it's:
Harvard
Brown-??
Yale
Princeton
Columbia
Stanford
Duke
Penn
MIT
Georgetown
Dartmouth
Cornell
Boston College
Chicago

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:33 pm: Edit

Lol thanks for trying, Metz. Wow if a 1500 @ BC is 98.7% a 1500 at Boston University must be like 120%. Btw, do you know anything about admissions at Emory? If so, could you please rate my chances?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:35 pm: Edit

Ha...we're beating Indian Post #2.

By Metz (Metz) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:43 pm: Edit

Kkgirl, I honestly don't know much about Emory, but I will tell you this: this book clearly shows how much ED helps. Your SATs may not stand out but everything else does. If you use the "ED equals +100 SAT points" theory, you're chances look VERY good.

By Irishnd428 (Irishnd428) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:54 pm: Edit

Klkgirl06--

I understand you get tons of requests, but if you could possible look up a 1530 at Harvard EA that'd be greatly appreciated.


Thanks!

By Lt4xbball (Lt4xbball) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:02 pm: Edit

kkgirl...just a suggestion...wouldn't be easier for you if you just copied all the info so people would stop bugging you. i think if u did RDs 1300-1600 u'be saved from all these inquiries

just a suggestion =)

By Nyapplicant (Nyapplicant) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 11:03 pm: Edit

kkgirl, can you look up stats for
1410 brown ED

By Elgrecoreborn (Elgrecoreborn) on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 11:07 pm: Edit

kkgirl, 1570 Princeton ED?

By Dlarrea (Dlarrea) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:33 am: Edit

kkgirl, 1300
Princeton ED

By Cornell08 (Cornell08) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:38 am: Edit

kkgirl...cornell ed 1330?

By Cornell08 (Cornell08) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:39 am: Edit

o and by the way, my friend went to emory. he was deffered regular admission but he sent in supplemental stuff in order to show interest and he got in.

By Riesenmy (Riesenmy) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:58 am: Edit

kkgirl : 1570
Stanford RD
Harvard RD
Yale RD

By Fiachamp (Fiachamp) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 01:14 am: Edit

URM, 1480
Harvard EA
Stanford RD
Princeton RD

Good stuff, though a lot of these numbers seem very optimistic...Ah well, as long as there is HOPE.

By Navygirl18 (Navygirl18) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 01:49 am: Edit

hey kkgirl, thanks for info! all the best :)

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:22 am: Edit

Irish: Harvard EA with a 1530 (I'll show u 1500 and 1550)
1500 24.9%
1550 43.2%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:25 am: Edit

Lt4xbball- yeah, i've though about it, but just posting all the stats is quite a bit of work too (14 colleges * 4 SAT ranges * chances for RD and EA/ED for each). Who knows,I probably will get tired of this and do that eventually.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:27 am: Edit

Nyapplicant- chances @ Brown EA with a 1410 (I'll look up 1400) is 13.7%. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:30 am: Edit

Elgrecoreborn, chances at Princeton ED with a 1570:
1550 92.3%
1600 97.9%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:32 am: Edit

Dlarrea: Chances @ Princeton ED with a 1300 are 21.7%. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:35 am: Edit

Cornell, chances @ Cornell ED with a 1330:
1300 42.8%
1350 56.7%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:39 am: Edit

Riesenmy, chances with a 1570:
Stanford RD 1550 56% 1600 73.7%
Harvard RD 1550 21.6% 1600 34.6%
Yale RD 1550 38.6% 1600 55.3%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:42 am: Edit

Fiachamp, chances UNHOOKED with a 1480 (I'll show u 1500)
Harvard EA 24.9%
Stanford RD 38.2%
Princeton RD 25.5%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 10:44 am: Edit

IRISH, NYAPPLICANT, ELGRECOREBORN, DLARREA, CORNELL, RIESENMY, AND FIACHAMP: do you guys know anything about admissions @ Emory? If so could you please rate my chances ^^^? Thanks for any info.

By Elgrecoreborn (Elgrecoreborn) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:08 pm: Edit

what are your stats?

By I10rooteu (I10rooteu) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:15 pm: Edit

wu wow... this is the longest discussion I have seen...

By Elgrecoreborn (Elgrecoreborn) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 03:06 pm: Edit

KKgirl, I responded to your chances in your other thread. Please take a look, and I'll be willing to talk to you in further detail regarding your chances. I think that I have some good advice to offer.

By Mafmaf22 (Mafmaf22) on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 03:15 pm: Edit

can someone please tell me the percent for
a 1470 for DUKE ED

By Riesenmy (Riesenmy) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:42 am: Edit

Kkgirl, all i have on emory are the standard stats: acceptance rate = 42%, SAT-V 640-720, SAT-M 660-740 ....ACT range 29-33. I'm not sure if you have these stats or not, but that's all i can tell you. thank you for your response to my message. good luck :)

By Kshroff1 (Kshroff1) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 01:59 am: Edit

Kkgirl,
Can you please look up
Princeton ED with a 1520
and 790 Avg SAT 2
Thanx

By Culovv (Culovv) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 03:12 am: Edit

Kkgirl06:

Can you please look-up Cornell RD with a 1310 (1300)? Im an URM so i guess im hooked, but both hooked and unhooked percentages would be great!

By the way, im applying to emory also. Honestly, i dont know much about emory except that 90% are in the top 10%, and its only 3% hispanic. Ive got top 351 a few rooms down if you have any specific questions that i can answer.

By Smartncute03 (Smartncute03) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 05:58 pm: Edit

1550 ED at Columbia please!
Looking at your chances for Emory, I think you've got a great shot. Your app looks strong except for the SAT score, which according to a lot of people gets a boost equivalent to 100pts when you apply ED. Good Luck!

By Soulofheaven8 (Soulofheaven8) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 06:20 pm: Edit

kkgirl: you're a goddess, lol. Can you please look up the following for me?

1580 SAT

Columbia ED
Yale RD
Brown RD
Cornell RD

Thanks so much.

By Pimpdaddy (Pimpdaddy) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 06:29 pm: Edit

"chances at Princeton ED with a 1570:
1550 92.3%
1600 97.9% "
wow, that makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside

kkgirl kicks major ass

By Pimpdaddy (Pimpdaddy) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 06:29 pm: Edit

double post, sorry

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 06:53 pm: Edit

kkgirl is really nice

kkgirl is on the "cool members of cc" list

By Sidis (Sidis) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 06:53 pm: Edit

Williams?? 1340 ???

By Clt_Catholic (Clt_Catholic) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 08:21 pm: Edit

KKGirl,

TIA, and good luck with Emory

Could you please tell me

Penn RD with a 1350

Thanks

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 08:54 pm: Edit

Mafmaf, chances at Duke ED with a 1470:
1450 68.0%
1500 88.6%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 08:56 pm: Edit

Kshroff1, chances @ Princeton Ed with a 1520:
1500 86.4%
1550 92.2%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:00 pm: Edit

Culovv, chances at Cornell RD unhooked (they don't give percentages for hooked applicants-it would be impossible to quantify their chances as every school values hooks to different degrees) with a 1310 (1300) are 18.3%. Good luck at Emory, though I'm sure you'll get in because you are an URM (besides your great stats). I'm just glad you're not applying ED I. Lol j/k hope to see you there next year!

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:05 pm: Edit

Smartncute, chances at Columbia ED with a 1550 are 95.3%. Good luck and thanks for the response.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:12 pm: Edit

Soulofheaven, chances with a 1580 SAT I are:
Columbia ED 1550: 92.2% 1600: 99.1%
Yale RD 1550: 38.6% 1600: 55.3%
Brown RD 1550: 23.8% 1600: 32.9%...why is Brown so ridiculously selective i.e. more so than Yale but not nearly as good a school? Maybe the results from the book are flawed for Brown because that doesn't make sense.
Cornell RD 1550: 80.0% 1600: 89.5%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:13 pm: Edit

Sidis...sorry, williams is not on the list.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:15 pm: Edit

Clt Catholic, chances at Penn RD with a 1350 are 21.8%. Good luck.

By Elgrecoreborn (Elgrecoreborn) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 10:09 pm: Edit

This book was published a few years ago. These percentages are no longer accurate.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 10:30 pm: Edit

Elgrecoreborn this book "The Early Admissions Game: Joining the Elite" was published in 2003.

By Dmitrypetrovna (Dmitrypetrovna) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:00 pm: Edit

Hi.

Dartmouth with a 1400 ED?
Harvard RD?
Princeton RD?
Boston COllege RD?

Thank you so much.

By Asknot11 (Asknot11) on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:17 pm: Edit

1300-1350 for BC EA/RD Please?

By Lostboy86 (Lostboy86) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 03:55 am: Edit

Hey, could ya tell me what my chances are for Colby with a 1300 ED?

By Culovv (Culovv) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 04:04 am: Edit

Kkgirl06:

Im hoping to get into emory also :/

Do you have AIM so we could talk? Chances are that we are applying to some of the same schools. Good luck!

-culovv

By Blueroses (Blueroses) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:04 am: Edit

hey KKgirl06:
how about
1550-1600 for Stanford ED? thanks

By Lt4xbball (Lt4xbball) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 12:15 pm: Edit

hey kkgirl...can you tell me Brown and Cornell RD with 1400 and 1450

By Judeezy36 (Judeezy36) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 01:00 pm: Edit

first off, thank you for all your dedication to helping ease some of our nerves on this site KKgirl06....
1200-1300 with URM hook
ED George Washington
RD Boston College
RD Boston University
RD Franklin and Marshall

By Smac86 (Smac86) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 01:46 pm: Edit

Now that you're at it: Stanford, 1500? [Early Action]

By Virgo007 (Virgo007) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 02:11 pm: Edit

Jamimom-

Do you really think that visiting the college (UPenn) will help me get in.. like help me have an edge if they're unsure about accepting me?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:37 pm: Edit

Dmitrypetrovna, chances with a 1400 SAT I:
Dartmouth ED 57.8%
Harvard RD 0.1%
Princeton RD 5.5%
BC RD 90.8%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:43 pm: Edit

Asknot, chances at BC:
1300 EA 66.0% RD 66.4%
1350 EA 78.3% RD 78.6%
Yes, those percentages are correct--BC is the only school on the list that applying EA has no advantage. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:45 pm: Edit

Lostboy, I've never even heard of Colby and it is most certainly not on the list. See above for schools on the list.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Culovv: My sn is kkgirl06

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Blueroses, chances at stanford ED:
1550 75.6%
1600 89.2%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 05:58 pm: Edit

Ltxbball, chances at brown and cornell RD:
Brown 1400 4.9% 1450 9.8%
Cornell 1400 42.7% 1450 56.6%
Good luck.

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:05 pm: Edit

Virgo007, for some schools a visit is almost essential. Those schools carefully track every communication you make to them, and for someone to come visit is essential for anyone who lives nearby and counted heavily for those who do not.
Emory is one school that is straightforward about that philosophy. They do want to see lots of interest from a candidate and a visit is considered one of the best signs of interest. Tufts is also in this category, as is F&M, Union College and many of the smaller LACs. Schools like UVA or BC do not even keep count of visits or interest. I do not know where UPenn falls in their treatment of visits. I have heard that the ivies are not as concerned about the visiting aspect as much as schools who are concerned about "yield" .

By Dmitrypetrovna (Dmitrypetrovna) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:07 pm: Edit

thanks so much kkgirl. Good luck with Emory!

By Mhb04 (Mhb04) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:12 pm: Edit

Another Request:

Columbia ED 1370

Thanks!

By Asknot11 (Asknot11) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:17 pm: Edit

Thank you so much

By Elgorila (Elgorila) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:18 pm: Edit

Jamimom, do you know if Princeton is like that?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:43 pm: Edit

Judeezy, chances at BC RD with a 1300 are (F and M, GW, and BU are not in the book. Please see above for a list of schools included. Also, the lowest SAT score analyzed is 1300) 66.4%. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:44 pm: Edit

Smac, chances at Stanford EA with a 1500 61.9%. Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:46 pm: Edit

Mhb04, chances @ Columbia ED with a 1370:
1350 45.3%
1400 64.4%
Good luck.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 06:49 pm: Edit

DMITRYPETROVNA, ASKNOT, KSHROFF, SOULOFHEAVEN, BLUEROSES, LTXBBALL, JUDEEZY, SMAC, and MHB04: do you guys know anything about admissions @ Emory? If so could you please rate my chances ^^^? Thanks for any info.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 04:49 pm: Edit

bump

By Asknot11 (Asknot11) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 06:06 pm: Edit

kkgirl, I did have a friend last year who was accepted to Emory. He got in with a 28 ACT(No SAT, but a 28 is comprable to a 1280-1300) He had solid ec's and such, but nothing that really distinguished him. He ended up going to Vanderbilt instead.

By Yalie08 (Yalie08) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

kkgirl,
People have sorta asked it before, but what does unhooked really mean? Does it mean no REALLY specail EC or talent or legacy or URM? Or does it mean nothing AT ALL extracurricular or special? Please, clarify!!!

By Yalie08 (Yalie08) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Bumpety-bump

By Yalie08 (Yalie08) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Bumpety-bump

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit

A "hook" is defined by the book I'm referencing as:
1.) An underrepresented minority
2.) A legacy
3.) A recruited athlete
I'm really not sure about special talents or extracurriculars; however, people on this site seem to think that special talents or extracurriculars ARE hooks. I don't think, for example, that being the editor of the school newspaper or captain of the football team are considered hooks. It is true that being editor or captain will help, but certainly not to the degree of being a URM, legacy, or recruited athlete. What is your "hook" or impressive ec that you are unsure about?

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 10:40 am: Edit

Anybody know anything about Emory? If so, could you rate my chances ^^^? T.I.A.

By Piquant77 (Piquant77) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:06 pm: Edit

I'm sorry I don't know about Emory, but it really is nice of you to do this for everyone.

I have an idea about Brown...I think, from my visit there, that they hold the SAT's at a much lower importance than the other Ivy schools. Furthermore, Brown might sometimes be able to tell that students with _really_ good scores are going to be accepted and matriculate at a different school anyway, so reject them for better yield stats. (Same reasoning in the example of a person I know with a 1510, that was accepted to Yale and rejected from the University of Washington, his back-back-backup school).

I also think by now posting the chart would've made up for scrolling through and looking at all the stats ;) But you are seriously soo nice Kkgirl.

Could you check a 1560 (this is just SAT I; round to 1550 I guess) for:
Yale EA
Chicago RD
Georgetown RD
Columbia RD
Penn RD

Notice I didn't ask for ones you had already posted :D

By Cchopeful08 (Cchopeful08) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 06:02 pm: Edit

kkgirl06- could you look up columbia ED 1470? thanks

By Smartncute03 (Smartncute03) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 07:20 pm: Edit

1430 (I'll give 1450...)
Columbia ED 77.95% RD 22.9%

I got this from above. Good luck Cchopeful

By Cchopeful08 (Cchopeful08) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 08:18 pm: Edit

thanks, im getting anxious, but those numbers are reassuring.

By Filmnerd86 (Filmnerd86) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 11:32 pm: Edit

bump

By Filmnerd86 (Filmnerd86) on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 11:33 pm: Edit

NYU ED, 1420

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 10:26 am: Edit

Hey guys another poster just made a chart of all the scores and chances in another post. See "For All Those Asking KKGirl..." Thanks


P.S. Filmnerd NYU isn't one of the 14 schools. See above for the list.


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