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I've noticed that several people have sent there stats on this website with 1500's and all that bullsh*t. Then they have their 50 extra curicular activities ranging from the chess club to whatever else. All the people who get the majority of replies are ivy league schools. People with post from other prestidious schools like UCLA, B.C, N.Y.U, and Swathmore get overlooked for the Yale, Princeton, and other ivy posts.It seems to be that if you dont have a 1400 on your sat score in this website no one bothers to reply. You people should realize that normal people that acutally do things on weekends and have fun in highschool want replies too. The typical nerd who just sits home and studies 24 hours a day gets like 30 replies on this website. This venting does not pertain to any posts i've sent either i just find it stuck up that no one posts for the non-ivys. I feel every1 deserves a chance to hear other peoples opionon and maybe people should realize there are other schools other then the ivys

By me on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:26 pm: Edit

Well I can't attest to your argument, but I have noticed that posters generally like to 'talk' to other posters who have similar stats/aspirations.

Many of the kids on this board are smart. No doubt about that. They aspire for the ivy's and may not be familiar with the 'lesser ivy's'. But it is quite impetuous to classify all smart people as 'nerds'. It is quite evident that nowadays, being smart doesn't get you into college alone!

By SU on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 07:29 pm: Edit

Neither does being a nerd! You have to be involved in the community and school.

By nerd on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 08:21 pm: Edit

quiet fedup, you come to a high achievement board and hope to get advice on getting into community college. Guess what nobody here cares. Oh wait whats that a state school? well lets see, all you need are scores to get into those huge bundles of red tape so ahh go do that, I have real stuff to concern myself with such as ivy league acceptance. This site supplments my guidance counselor who may not be as familiar with ivy league schools as some id like
thanks for making worthless comments

By lol on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:28 pm: Edit

lol

By seeker on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:35 pm: Edit

It's not as if most people who get 1500+ need to study 24 hours a day for it.

By yea on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:38 pm: Edit

seriously. one test a day for two weeks in a row (the huge red book with 10 REAL SAT's), scored 1520 first try. who needs those expensive prep courses.

By Chigetai on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:42 pm: Edit

I love coming to these boards just to read the inflammatory comments. Makes you wonder, "Hmm, when these future leaders of the world can actually back up their immature antics with the power they somehow stumbled across, would I feel safe?"

This comment in itself is inflammatory, and should therefore be ignored.

By fedup on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:47 pm: Edit

well nerd i dont think i ever talked about community colleges. when has U.C.L.A N.Y.U or B.c been considered community colleges. I know your lil stuck up a$$ thinks your so high because you think or are going to an ivy school. What i was simply saying was there are other colleges that aren't ivys which can be heard on this site too. Trust me i know a person who graduated from Princeton and is now a football coach so its not like everyone from these high class snobbish rich white schools is an instant sucess.

By seeker on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 07:59 am: Edit

yea: i think that's pretty intensive, actually.

By WA guy on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 09:13 am: Edit

Stuck up? Such a common word.
Why don't you use sophisticated words like haughty, disdainful, supercillious, prententious, bombastic, dogmatic, or patronizing
you peasant

By fedup on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 05:52 pm: Edit

wow WA guy seriously i am really hoping that you are kidding. Yes i could of used a lot of words but i can get my point across with stuck up. We all dont have to use big words on this forum to make ourselves look smarter. And if you are serious you are probaly a f****** homo who has nothing better to do in his life then critque words. Get a life Wa guy

By unknown on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:32 pm: Edit

i agree fed up
a lot of the people who criticize here are homos without lives and should proceed to strangle themselves immediately, such as WA guy

By shutupdefup~formerly`nerd on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:36 pm: Edit

fedup quit complaining. All the schools you listed are not nearly competitive as an ivy. And since when is a gym coach a failure? Hmm it seems like your just trying to get people to consider schools which arent incredibly competitive. i nor others feel the need to assist lower achievers in reaching their goals. Practice the sat and get good grades. your plan is straightforward, now quit wasting bandwith, im trying to increase my chances of getting into a *TOP* school.

By fedup on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:37 pm: Edit

unknown i am very happy some one else on this website is not a flaming homo with no life. I commend you for agreeing with me and i wish more people like you reply. Thanks very much

By daphne rox on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:48 pm: Edit

I agree with you overall. not completely digging homo as an insult (my brother is one, heh) but I feel like you're basically on target. I have another beef in addition to yours posted.

I have mostly been a lurker for AWHILE but I see a load of replies where the poster is just *begging* for compliments by saying "I only got a 1500" or lists a slew of ECs and achievements and wants to go to, say, Brown or Yale, and that person actually thinks people on this site will be able to determine if he or she will make it in. I understand there is constructive criticism from people who have a solid background, however, it's never fun to see someone with a solid if not STELLAR 3.3 GPA and 1250 SATs saying they're not good enough. Bull. I go to a mediocre at best, large New York City high school where that is considered an achievement. It's unfortunate to see the number of people being discouraged on here.

Also, teenagers should have a life, to a degree. I like balancing school and social life. I don't want one to overrule the other, however, when there is an exam or SAT coming up, I forgo social activities to study. I am a strong writer, I act and dance, but I am HORRIBLE in math. I am trying not to let my dreams of getting into NYU get shot, you know? I would never post my stats on here because I am a tad sensitive and I dont want random strangers telling me what I am and what Im not. I've worked very hard, thank you.

So I am basically saying amen to you, I agree wholeheartedly.

By YousuckDaph on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 08:13 pm: Edit

DAPHNE ROX'S COLLEGE EQUATION

D-(E+A+G+R)= C

D= Daphne rox
E= Extra Cirricular
A= Community Service
G= High GPA
R= Leadership
C= Community College

By Gregon on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:21 pm: Edit

Yousuckdaph,
Uh? I have a 790 Math Sat I and 770 Math IIc Sat II and I don't understand your equation or why you're dissing Daph?

Daph, what's it mean to get a life? Life is what we chose to make of it and not everyone wants to be a social butterfly. Some people are more reclusive, some are just more shy. You are in no position to judge the way people live their lives on this board. I certainly wouldn't want you judging my social life.

I come from a public highschool in rural Appalachia. I know what your talking about, people on this board degrade people with 1250's. If someone dares post with lower than 1200 they are called retarded! That is the cruelest most sadistic act of arrogance that I've ever seen in my entire life. An 1140 is way above average! There are arrogant 1600 pricks calling them retarded! If the people who get into HYP are the type who like to knock down those less talented, I hope to be rejected.

1140 is NOT community college. Anyone who says so is an ass. A huge ass, who doesn't deserve to be shown any respect, and certainly will always have my scorn.

Gregon

By previously daphne on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:35 pm: Edit

Gregon if I came across as insulting anyones social life, in no way did I intend to. Sorry. :-) I don't mean to be insulting or anything like that. If anything, I am more of the type to have my nose in the books than anything else, at least lately.

I don't get the insult that was thrown my way, I don't want to bother figuring it out, there are so many things more worthy of my time like my Psychology homework. I don't think I said anything hideously offensive, in my previous post. I mean, posting DaphSucks is one of the ultimate immature things to do. That's not even my name, just a pseudonym, but trying to trick me with a little "equation" and then posting my screenname sucks as your header? Overwhelmingly intelligent. Get a life. Grow up. That's pure stupidity.

Gregon, I got a 128 on my PSAT and was a mix of relieved and aggravated. Relieved because I know I could have done worse and actually had to conceal my grade from a lot of people because most everyone I know got less than me and they were making me feel, well...uncool. And aggravated because if I dare posted that on this board up until now I'd be ashamed of myself.

By COLLEGE FOR EVERYONE on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:40 pm: Edit

i agree with daphne rox. what is so wrong with a 1250 SAT? this isn't just a IVY FORUM. yes it is a great accomplishment to get into an IVY league school. i would kill to get into Harvard or Yale. But thats not possible. But please dont shoot down others who have other aspirations. they might be lower than yours, but that doesnt mean that those aspirations are dumb. in my high school if you get an SAT over 1000 the counselors get wild! they think you are so smart. other students who studied only got a 700 or 800 and reached for a 900, yet if another one of my fellow students read these posts they would be entirely shot down. a 1000 SAT doesnt make you stupid, actually thats average. so actually if you score above a 1000 you are above average. i will agree to a degree it does show what you know, but to a degree it also shows what you have been taught. one cant blame students like me who attended a low-performing school, with the highest pregnancy rate in the state, in a low-performing district. but i think its good that i know that i want to get out of that environment and do better. now even i catch myself saying bad stuff about community college, but to others it is all they can do. it is sad, but thats what they aspire to b/c they cant go any higher. they may not be as smart, but that doesnt mean they are less human. what if they did listen to what others told them? instead of comm. college they would just go work to mickey d's. now I want to go to UT Austin and if i listened to most, not all, posts i would rather think that i should go to comm. college b/c i am just not smart enough. of course critism is always good, but not bashing. i commend all of the students who tried and got accepted in Yale or Stanford or Columbia, but I also commend those students who didnt give up and got into UCLA, Penn ST, or even UT. and i commend the URM who got into good schools and i commend the low income students, yes people even some whites are low income, who got into their desired school.

By fedup on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:46 pm: Edit

well the previously nerd guy this is for you. I dont know u and i dont care who you are but u seem so egocentric. Get off your pedestal buddy just because your trying to get into the bests schools doesn't mean your above me. From the way you talk i'd figure a person like you would consider a gym teacher a failure since you seem a high on yourself. Not once did i ever try to convince someone to go to a lower school so SHUT UP. IF your so smart justify your answers from things that i actually wrote. All i was saying was the non-ivys don't get looked at on this forum. Everyone is talking about how their low 1500 sat score with 740 average sat II is bad and sh*t like that . So nerd shut up you have no clue what your even talking about. If you wanna truly argue at least know what i am talking about. Your dumb and full of your self. Not all of us are snob losers like yourself. I'd love to talk more to you because you really •••• me off and if i'd acutally have the time to sit down and review what i say on this message and had time to write more i would but some of us have social lives. So write back and keep talkin maybe next time you'll make sense

By COLLEGE FOR EVERYONE on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:48 pm: Edit

Actually 1140 is not bad at all. Here in my school thats great! Only 7 students in my senior class broke the 1000 mark. And as for the remark that an 1140 is community college caliber that is bull. what kind of community college? must be the best one in the US. to get into UTSA (University of Texas at San Antonio) the minimum score is an 830 for top 25% students. now community college is a last, last, last resort for most of us, but for others it is the higher education for those who scored less than 800 and those who never took the SAT.

By picky on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:48 pm: Edit

Actually, the average SAT is a 1020.

By fedup on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:55 pm: Edit

for you COLLEGE 4 EVERYONE
I'd just like to thank you for seeing my oringinal point all along, however i was to lazy to actually explain it as concise as you did. I agree with you completely most people in my school did not score higher then my 1240 sat's and think i'm a genious i know i'm not but to them i am. People on this forum focus to much on the 1500 and 1600 sat scores. It is great people can do that but i got a 1240 becasue i suck in math if i didnt suck and math and it was on like history i would of gotten in the 1400's. SO i dont think that SAT's are that great of a measuring stick. Cause most people are either good at math or english not good at both. That doenst mean the person who is good at both is smarter because maybe they are horrible at the sciences and history. Thast why i dont think the sat's are fair but enough of that. I just want to thank you for seeing my point of view as well as others who have replied to my first post. I just feel that the others who dont apply to the ivies should get the equal chance to have people respond to them as well. When people are shooting down colleges like N.D. and B.u cause these are their safety schools i am appalled. Not every1 goes to ivy's i'd kill to go to it buti can't and if i got into N.D i'd be so happy. But i just feel people on this site feel that people who go to b.u and ucla are inferior to the people at princeton. These are all great schools we arent talking about community colleges. ANd even if not every1 from ivy league schools makes 250,000 a year after school. I have known people who didnt even go to college and made more then a person who went to Columbia. But thank you and every other person for agreeing with me

By Gregon on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:10 pm: Edit

Whose dissing ND? I'll kill them. I'll get Jeff Faine to eat them. Notre Dame is one of THE best schools in the country and definitely the best catholic school in the country (Georgetown eat your heart out). What people don't realise is that Notre Dame gets the best athletes and students and student/athletes!
--from a future ND grad

Anways, I think people misinterpretted my post a bit. I was condemning those who look down on average SAT scores (thanks picky for the correction ) I once saw a post where someone posted his 1140 SAT score and was not only told that he had 0 chance but that he was a moron, fool, idiot, retard, and the hypocrits even went so far as to call this humble timid guy arrogant for DARING to post his stats and attempt to go to an Ivy. Where do people get off attacking the less than perfect?

Its unfair however to call these people who are fiercely grade competitive and arrogant nerds. I know a bunch of nice nerds. Some might call me a nerd (I don't look at all like one though). Don't generalize about the perfect SAT people. For all you know they could be a jock or a valley girl or something. Why are you picking on nerds?

To sum up, don't degrade peoples scores. If they got more than a 400 then they tried and that's a worthy effort. Just GOING to college, any college is something to look favorably upon. STOP ATTACKING THE LOW SCORES!!!!

(however it's not unreasonable to kindly tell someone that with a 900 they have little chance at an Ivy, but don't call him a moron.)

By Gregon on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:11 pm: Edit

The future ND grad is me by the way.

GO IRISH!!!

By NDblowsMIT on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 01:04 am: Edit

ND SUCKS

By Canigetin (Canigetin) on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 01:55 am: Edit

Hi, I'm the 1140 SATs. My counselor and teachers and all the faculty respect me highly bc of my acheivement and a 3.95 GPA. I don't think test scores are everything. Yes, my views now change that I have no chance whatsoever in applying to any good college. The thing that makes me mad is I get shunned upon bc of my bad SAt scores and not the person that I am. No one knows who you are and they have no right to judge you like that. Thanks gregon for defending me, do you have any idea where I should go to college? Do you think I have a shot at Claremont Mckenna, Pitzer?
I don't know? I'm currently getting recruited for water polo so I hope things go well. Any advice?

By junior on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 02:36 pm: Edit

What is really disturbing are some of the self-appointed experts on this board (parents) who put down people in subtle ways by way of giving "helpful advice" ("your B+ average is lackluster") but find ways to brag about their children ("my son never has to study much and he gets all A's"). I think some of the worst offenders vis a vis telling people where they can and can't get in are some of the adults who come on the board.

By junior on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:03 pm: Edit

Just another thought: some of the self-appointed experts (parents) who recite the mantra (rather condescendingly) that "not everyone needs to go to an Ivy, there are a lot of schools that want you where you will be happy," are the same people who "just happen to mention," on another thread, that their child goes to an Ivy and are clearly thrilled about it.

By Divajen2001 (Divajen2001) on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:05 pm: Edit

I'm in love with you, Junior.

By YEA! on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:24 pm: Edit

all adults-- banned!

By daph on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 08:36 pm: Edit

I actually ignore the adults. I have two parents to speak to about college who will not discourage me or talk down to me because my 1250 Isn't Good Enough. My parents are very encouraging towards me. And honestly, speaking to a parent who tells me my 89 average isn't good enough would only p!ss me off further. I've worked through a lot of school related problems (witnessing countless fights, missing desks because the school is so broke and overcrowded, not enough books. The basic NYC public school) since I was a freshman, and I can say I am relatively happy to be where I am right now. There is room for improvement and sometimes I feel upset about my mediocre math grade, but I am not going to hate myself for not having a 4.0.

I was looking at this sheet in my schools lobby about the colleges students were accepted to in the past 3 years. It listed everything from Cornell, Swarthmore and Wesleyan to CUNY schools that would probably be ridiculed by many on this board.

The person who ever so cleverly wrote DaphneSucks or some crap like that was telling me that I would get into a community college. This person is from the school of degrading others for an ego boost. I can't stand it when people do that. It really bothers me and is something that never fails to irk me. So if that one little sentence made you happier, DaphneSucks, terrific. It didn't make me feel bad about myself at all. I think its really •••••• up that people on here who ask innocent questions and might not be academic allstars are told they aren't good enough.

No one should tell you that you aren't good enough. People saying that type of stuff only make me try harder. Im only a 16 year old chick, I have no authority to tell someone they can't get into Boston College or can't get into Brown, I have no clue. My friend just got into Harvard with a 1230 and 3.4. If she were to post that here, Im sure people would say "That's too low".

My basic mantra is to not let anyone tell you you're not good enough.

By RamiroT on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 02:06 am: Edit

cheers to daphne

way to go!

never give up! my friend got accepted in UT Red McCombs school of business, one of the top 10 in the country, with an SAT of 990. she never gave up and wrote awesome essays and was involved in everything. just another example of what happens when u dont give up!

anybody please pray for me so i can get into UT Austin! my desired school.

By Idontbragaboutbeingstupid on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 03:44 am: Edit

is it suddenly cool to be dumb now? I disagree with what the original thread starter posted. you dont have to devote your live to school to do well. for me, I am taking 4 ap classes this year (junior english, us history, physics, calculus) and I do avrg. about 2 hours a week homework. I got all a's (except damn pe, a-) on my last report card which is proof that you can have fun and you dont even have to be stupid or lazy to do it. just make school a game and the tests all compitions.. I think of it as a sport. when win theres celebrating and partys and lots of food and stuff, and when I dont I go home and study hard for like 30 min just to punish my self. one last thing....I have a 143.89% in earth science...hehe

By Olivia Williamson on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 11:43 pm: Edit

Canigetin:

I have a friend who went to Pomona with grades and scores that were similar to yours, and she wasn't even in any sports. If you are being recruited by those schools for water polo, you have a very good chance of getting in.

The problem with this web site is that at the very competitive schools, it's a real crapshoot to get in, so students focus on the things they can control, like grades and scores. But, to be honest, no school would ever place a hard cutoff at really high grade/SAT levels, because they do want a wide range of types of people, and those skills and talents don't always come with SAT scores of 1500+.

- Olivia

By alsright on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 10:08 am: Edit

I really don't think it's fair to criticize people for responding mostly to posts about the more selective schools since this is a site that deals with college admissions which means most of the people who spend their time reading/responding to posts are those more concerned with college and thus more likely to be applying to the more selective ones. Just my opinion.

By DaBoMb on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 11:11 pm: Edit

I think most people know more about a famous school (like IVY's) than a small town school. Seeing all these people whine about 1550's and 800 MathIIC scores and then seeing responses like "you MIGHT get deferred" is moronic.

I goto a NYC Public School too and I know the average SAT score is about a 1100 and the average is 75.

Oh yea- Is it me or did NYU suddenly think they're IVY?

BTW Daph- What HS you goto?

By jojo on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 12:08 pm: Edit

i think all you guys need to relax... of course some people are •••••••• to diss kids with 1250
s, as a kid with a 1300 got into harvard from my school last year. and like 3 kids got into duke with 1200's this year. At the same time, the kids with 1250's think that a high sat score is a ticket into the top colleges. Let me tell you, it is NOT. I have a 1560 with 800 v, 800m2c,800 physics, 730 writing, 5's on 5 ap's and i was deferred early. And
I have good ec's, essays and recs. I am applying to HYPM regular, but i doubt i will get into even one of those schools. The point is that indeed there is a big difference between 1510 and 1580, I know this firsthand from going to a school where there are plenty of both types of kids. Fact is, when other factors are the same (or even a little different), the high 1500's get in, and the 1510's get rejected. Although colleges may not like to talk about it, that is just true. nuff said.

By Tyrone Rocks! on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 12:20 pm: Edit

NDblowMit, The only thing uglier than MIT's campus is the women. Cheers!

By gr8hello on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 03:45 pm: Edit

hi! is it true that the people at notre dame are racist? I would like to go there but im asian...

By Gregon on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 04:42 pm: Edit

Whoah whoah whoah. Who said that? That is a load of crap! I like asian people. Some of my best friends are asian people. What kind of @sshole would say something like that?

By that same logic I could say that Harvard is all communists and Yale are all snotty rich kids. There is no basis for that type of accusation. I believe whoever said that was either against Notre Dame's more conservative policies or an anti-catholic registered KKK memeber. Don't sling the word racist around. It's not to be used lightly.

Future Notre Dame student

By a comforting thought on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 04:53 pm: Edit

after a tough day at work, i come straight to this website just to get a good LAUGH :-)

By ha on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 08:41 pm: Edit

ME TOO!!

By Gregon on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 10:23 pm: Edit

Well then, here's some jokes I found at the Harvard board.


BY NorthStarMom:

Stranger to Harvard student: "Can you tell me where Harvard Square is at?"

Harvard student: "At Harvard, we don't end sentences with prepositions."

Stranger: "Can you tell me where Harvard Square is at, jackass?"
*****

By CrimsonKid:

Q: How many Harvard students does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: One - he holds the bulb and the world revolves around him.
*****

By ... on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 10:41 pm: Edit

fedup, if you are so cool, why are you writing such long messages here?

By fedup on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 11:42 pm: Edit

to ... i wrote like 3 long messages out of the 46 posted. I beleive they were wrote on a span of a week. sorry i was able to fit 10 minutes of writing out of a week. So ... why dont u try a lil harder next time ok guy.

By fedup on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 11:43 pm: Edit

oh and to ... again the only reason i even wrote replies back was because "nerd" was p*ssing me off. Therefore i felt i had to respond to him or her whenever he/she wrote a message so that is why.

By ... on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 05:41 pm: Edit

i agree with your idea fedup, i was just wondering

By I on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 03:15 pm: Edit

damn that nerd

his posting privileges have been revoked and he should proceed to kill himself

I speak

By Amg2k03 (Amg2k03) on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 04:24 am: Edit

L I S T E N Ivy doesn't= success

ivy league colleges carry prestigue...

unfortunatly, with no people skills and all bookskills, you (ivy leaguers) are bound to be outperformed in the real world by others who stay down to earth in terms of academic/social skill.

When a company looks for someone to seal a company merger or meet with another company's executives.....will they send a nerdy man who can barely speak in front of others or a socilly estute man who is normally smart)

By seeker on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 01:06 pm: Edit

Do you honestly think that "Ivy Leaguers", ambitious pre-professionals as many of them are, who got into their colleges by virtue of strong academics *and* of outstanding leadership and extracurricular records, would be nerds with only "bookskills" and no EQ and communication skills whatsoever?

By sico puto on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 07:58 pm: Edit

probably

By zhouj on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 09:40 pm: Edit

Yeah, they just happen to spend their free time volunteering for the less fortunate, helping their communities, playing sports, getting involved in their schools. And they also happen to win pure popularity contests like student government. I'm sure they're such nerds with no social skills.

Being smart does not make you a nerd. The qualification for the term 'nerd' is very little or no social life. Natalie Portman is smart, and I assume she has a social life. The Ivy Leagues accept people who are smart AND have a life. I can virtually guarantee that 100% of Harvard has a social life. You can't get in without one. Why? Because they have a huge applicant to choose from. So what you have a 1600 SAT I score? There's a few hundred other people with it and probably far better EC's.

By qt on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 01:28 pm: Edit

yeh, most likely

By Amg2k03 (Amg2k03) on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 02:24 pm: Edit

seeker...

c'mon. There a few random outgoing well spoken ivy leaugers. The vast majority of them are NERDS!! truth hurts

By qwerty on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 03:29 pm: Edit

I guess you people got bored of chatrooms

By tenisghs on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 12:42 pm: Edit

1140 is NOT community college. Anyone who says so is an ass. A huge ass, who doesn't deserve to be shown any respect, and certainly will always have my scorn.

Gregon
======================================
You speak the truth! Don't dare say you're a minority either!

By kupop on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 04:54 pm: Edit

I think they should ban the Standardized testing altogether. It's just a way for college board to make money..look at their registration policies and how much they charge to send scores, and although they play an important role in college admissions processes, there are other better ways to get to know an applicant than just a standardized test.

By tenisghs on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 10:14 pm: Edit

Kupop -

These standardized scores are a RIP-OFF. The College Board profits BILLIONS in money from these overpriced standardized tests. I sense a monopoly!!!

By Duchovnysfan on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:59 am: Edit

I was reading this thread, and it's truly offensive to read that people are looked down upon because of their low SAT scores. It offends me so much, I fit in that crowd. I have an SAT score of 920. I know I'm not stupid; actually I'm pretty intelligent person. I'm ranked in the 2nd quintile of my class and have a 3.52 GPA, and take 2 AP classes( French and Chemistry). So no one should say that a low SAT score means that you are stupid and your only options are community college.
Here's 2 stories that you should hear:1) There's this boy that applied to the top college with high SATs and 4.0 GPA and many EC's. He got accepted to UC Berkely. Then the first day @ Berkely, he got kicked out and his admission was rescinded. The reason why: b/c he slacked off in last semester of his senior year.
2) There is boy who had about a 3.62 GPA and received 900 on his SATs, and applied to Stanford, USC, UCLA, CSUN. He got accepted to USC.

So you see SATs are not everything. If you think that SAT's will make or break, then you should hit yourself, that's moronic thinking. If you think that SATs are a measure of your intelligence, then wake up! That could've been in 1933, but it's 2003, get with the times!

Granted test scores are an important part of the admission process, but why get wrapped up in one aspect, and probably slip everywhere else!! I know that my scores may be the best, but at least I have strengths everywhere else. I'm applying to some tough colleges: Princeton, NYU, USC, and UCLA and some not so tough: Pepperdine, LMU, UCI, and UCSB; With my scores I shouldn't apply to some of these schools, but there should be no reason that my scores should inhibit me to apply to whereever college I want to attend.

SAT's are not the best indicator of success because some student may not have the advantage of scoring so high. Many HS have different standards. One HS may a 1250 as great score while another school may think that score sucks! Nevertheless, scores are inflated and can be open to many interpretations.

I think that may should respect the fact that some people are great test takers, and some that are not. Some people who apply to colleges other than the IVYs does not mean there are stupid. Many people apply to these schools for the name, and want the opportunity to say I went to Havard. That makes me really mad because you are taking away the chance of someone else who really wants to go there for the program/major that the college has.

I'm neither an advocate for stupidity nor arrogance, but realize people have different aspirations so try understand it and accept it. I think that a smart person is a person that understand the people's differences not going around striking down other's opinions and being pompous about their scores and the colleges that apply to.

By Duchovnysfan on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:11 am: Edit

I meant to say that my score are not the best (not the best) sorry

correction from : "I know that my scores may be the best, but at least I have strengths everywhere else "

By Drgoldblatt (Drgoldblatt) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 08:18 pm: Edit

hang out in the community college web site.


Shalom,

By spit on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:44 am: Edit

probably the most important info on this board needs to be that President Bush....ahem....moron graduated from YALE...and #1 not only is he an idiot with absolutely no foreign or domestic policy, but he is also not that intelligent and a horrible president.....sooo like yea ivy doesn't = the best

By burroughs on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 02:19 pm: Edit

didnt he get like a "D" in Yale or something. And didn't his well-off spoon-feeding father also attend that institution?

By Blah (Blah) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 04:09 pm: Edit

Ok, first of all, I think that Bush is obviously a poor indicator of the level of intelligence at a college like Yale. That aside, I do have to give his administration credit for packing him much better than I thought possible...

Ok, now onto what I wanted to say...

First of all, the contention that every person at an Ivy school is some type of stuck-up bastard is ridiculous. There are some people on this thread who feel that people with low SAT scores are looked down upon by haughty Ivy leaguers. I shouldn't have to say that this isn't true across the board, and furthermore, this type of mentality is self-defeating. The way to get over stereotypes isn't to make another stereotype. I think that people like fedup are missing the point. After reading this thread, I basically concluded that fedup was an idiot based on his nerd-bashing and use of "homo" as a deragatory slur. This has nothing to do with his/her SAT score or GPA...

I'll agree with fedup that people don't have to go to the Ivy league to get a good education. I have a lot of friends who didn't do too hot on the SAT/don't have 3.8's. They're not all going to community colleges, by far. There are some good public schools (in my state, that'd by UGA and Tech) which accept SAT scores in the 1000-1200 range. So yes, there are other options, and some of them are quite good. If you want to go hardcore biomedical engineering, go to Johns Hopkins. The acceptance rate there is about 1/3, and if you can make your application stand out despite some poor numbers, you can probably still get in.

An undertone of this thread seems to be that being "smart" in the commonly accepted view of the word and being a "nerd" are synonymous. What does having a social life have to do with getting into an Ivy school? There is no such thing as a zero-sum gain/loss social interaction and college acceptance. If you are a star football player from a rural town in Georgia who took 2 AP classes, Harvard might scout you out. This is a true story; his SAT is somewhere in the 1200's, I believe. The point is that you just have to do well in whatever you're passionate about to get into ANY college. Albeit that the standards to get into the more selective schools in the nation are higher than most public schools, that doesn't mean that the top institutions in the nation are trying to culture a whole bunch of antisocial pedantics. Don't cheapen the accomplishments of the many amazing individuals at Yale/Harvard/etc. by saying that they're all stuck in ivory towers. Some may be, but you'll find the same attitude at places like Emory.

Zhouj makes a good point that people who are "nerds" do a lot of good work for the community. I don't think it's a stretch to say that some of that type of work is the most fun and rewarding. I volunteer a lot in the community with my friends, and we manage to have a lot of fun at the soup kitchen, urban ministry tutoring, etc. I may not party and drink like some kids at my school, but I don't want to, and I don't think that "being social" doing that type of thing. The "typical nerd" is probably a lot more complex that people like fedup give him/her credit for.

And finally, only people who care a lot about college go around the web reading posts like this. I'm in this group, and that's how I found this post. It's not a stretch to say that people who HAVE to go to community colleges or no college at all - those who have little motivation - won't come to College Confidential. Of course, there are people at community colleges who care a lot about school, and so they're the ones who will get placement into good graduate schools or get good jobs in industry.

So I guess that my ultimate point is... don't bash people in the Ivies as nerds; you have no right to, just as they have no right to think that non-Ivy students are all idiots. Nothing is that simple... (perhaps with the exception of Bush's fiscal policy)