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from TX

SAT I:
1320 (650M, 670V)
highest M & V - 1340 (650M, 690V)
will retake, aiming for 1400

SAT II:
Writing - 520 (will retake)
Math IC - 650
History - 740

APs:
World History - 4
US History - 3
US Govt -3
Macroeconomics - 4
English Language - 3

(Next Year APs)
English Lit
Pyschology
Spanish Lang
Calc AB

90% sure I am AP Scholar w/ Honor

GPA: 3.5somethingish unweighted, 4.175 weighted, 4.045 UC GPA

ECs are ok, not spectacular but ok with good essay

Planning to apply to: NYU, Barnard, Cornell (?), UCLA, Cal, USC, BU, and UT-Austin.

By Noemie (Noemie) on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 08:08 pm: Edit

We're applying to the same schools =).

Elaborate on ecs. Do you lean towards anything in particular?

I'd say you're in at BU, USC, and UT-Austin.

NYU is always tricky and you never really know with thier admissions.

You're going to need much higher AP scores and SAT scores for Barnard and Cornell, but you do have a shot. Good luck!

By Emyh (Emyh) on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:15 pm: Edit

ECs:
Maybe three/four clubs in school: Mu Alpha Theta, and some generic clubs I've been in since freshman year and treasurer of one.

Held a steady job for past year - 10-15 hrs/wk
Figure skated for about 6 years - 10 hrs/wk

Awards:
Who's Who, National Honor Roll, stuff like that, besides AP Scholar w/ Honor

That's pretty much it. Nothing really spectacular.

By B18c1cx (B18c1cx) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:19 am: Edit

In at USC, BU, UT-A.

Probable rejection/wait-listed at NYU, Barnard, and Cornell. NYU is you best shot of the three.

By Emyh (Emyh) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 04:44 am: Edit

What about Cal & UCLA? I was wondering if this seems like a good balance of safeties/matches/reaches? Maybe too many matches, and I should have more safeties?

By Emyh (Emyh) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 07:29 pm: Edit

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By Tsdad (Tsdad) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 07:56 pm: Edit

Emyh:

Let me be blunt with you. I don't mean to hurt your feelings. You'll not be accepted out-of-state at UCLA with a 1340 and your SAT IIs. UC schools only consider the academic record of out-of-state applicants, no ECs or essays. UCLA only takes 3-5% from outside CA and that includes international students and athletes.

Your record is perfectly fine, but do not waste your money applying to UCLA or UCB. It's not a reflection on you. The UC schools just don't take in many out-of-state students. Have you considered UCSB and UCSC as alternatives? You might be more competitive for them. Both are in great locations and sound like fun schools.

Your're probably ok at USC. Your SATs are about this year's average or slightly below. It's getting harder to get in there. My son was accepted this year with a 1370, 800, 700, 640 SAT IIs, bilingual IB diploma, and some exotic ECs.

BTW, my son was rejected at UCLA. He'll be attending USC, which was his first choice.

Good luck,

I'll be happy to answer any questions that I can.

By Emyh (Emyh) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 09:20 pm: Edit

That is why I am taking my SATs over... trust me.. I'm not easily offended. Be cruel as you want, lol.

I thought UCLA took 20% of all out of state applicants this past year? I think UCLA overall does admit less out of state, but then again most of their applicants come from in-state (38,000) vs. their applicants out-of-state (4,000).

By Uschicka (Uschicka) on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:55 pm: Edit

I got into USC and Berkeley (I didnt apply to UCLA) with:
SAT: 1290 (way below average at USC)
GPA: about 4.1 weighted
APs: Eng. Lang- 4
Eng. Lit- 4
US History- 4
Stats- 3
Enviro Science- 3

Clubs don't really do anything for you, I've heard, if you aren't like president or a head honcho.
I think you should definitely "waste your money" applying to Cal and UCLA, you never know and it definitely doesn't hurt. You'll be wondering forever if you don't apply. Personally I say go to USC, but I could be biased.

By Emyh (Emyh) on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:29 am: Edit

Thanks Uschicka.

I guess I'm kinda proud of my ECs even if anybody else isn't impressed. At least they all scream longevity and commitment and I'm doing it not to pad my resume.

By Shitakirimusume (Shitakirimusume) on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 02:24 am: Edit

UCLA>>UCBerkeley>>>>NYU>>USC

UCLA and UCB use a highest single set of SAT
and SATII's while USC uses highest score of
both .(not a single set)
Actual USC's single set of SAT average is around 1270.

By Tsdad (Tsdad) on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 08:01 am: Edit

From the USC website:

"The average GPA of newly enrolled freshmen for fall 2001 was 3.93. The average combined SAT score for this same group was 1319 (the middle-50% range was 1240 - 1400)."

That was two years ago. The average for 2003, according to what they told us at the admitted students meeting, was 1370. Elsewhere we were told that it was 1340.

Emyh I was wrong about the admit rate for UCLA. You're right, approximately 20% of out-of-staters who applied were accepted. You'll need to get that 1340 up though to be competitive.

Early in June we attended a USC orientation and registration meeting in Dallas. Lots of students from all over Texas, large and small towns, will be attending USC. USC likes out-of-state applicants. That will be an advantage for you when you apply. BTW, if you do get a 1400, you'll probably qualify for some merit money at USC. My son, didn't get the merit scholarship he applied for, SAT was probably too low, but to our surprise they gave him a small $4,000 a year grant.

By Emyh (Emyh) on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Oh dear. I just got my rank back after junior year.

I'm 97/809... will this hurt me significantly? Most of the kids in the top decile though have never touched an AP class in their lives...

By Gugers (Gugers) on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 01:48 pm: Edit

Interesting, when I was in high school, WAY BACK IN 1994, the UC, USC, and NYU admissions advisors all told us NOT to mix and match scores. Perhaps things have changed. Whatever the case, according to USNews, here are the stats for 2004:

School GPA SAT
CAL 4.0 1180-1440
UCLA 4.0 1140-1390
USC 4.0 1240-1420
NYU 3.6 1210-1410
BU 3.5 1200-1370
UT N/A 1110-1330

You're probably IN for the later 3, waitlisted at the First three. Keep in mind however, that the UCs have a top10% rule which means the top 10% of all California HS students are excepted there. Therefore, their avg. SAT scores are lower than they might seem. When I applied in 1994 (AM I THAT OLD?), I got in to all the UCs, USC, NYU, and Cornell with a 3.93GPA and a 1410 SAT. Of course, it was easier then. I wound up doing my undergrad at USC and my grad at UCLA. Good places, both of them. USC has a better football team though hahahahaa... GOOD LUCK!

By Uschicka (Uschicka) on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 02:02 pm: Edit

We certainly do have a better football team! ;) And good decision on your undergrad education!