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I was just wondering if most people looking to apply to highly competitive schools get straight A+'s. All through high school, I have received no grade less than an A+. I have taken as many honors and AP classes as possible. I took AP Pysch, AP U.S. History, and AP American Lit this year (my junior year). I am taking AP American Government, AP Brit Lit, AP Comp, AP Calculus, AP Spanish, Advanced Physics, Chemistry Honors, Biochemistry, Exercise Science, AP Euro, and Discrete Math next year. Just wondering if straight A+'s are even somewhat unique.

By Zerg_Vvins (Zerg_Vvins) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 01:00 am: Edit

Most people get A+'s all through their high school. To give you a picture, the overall GPA for the admitted class of 2003 is around 4.22. Though it's not required that you all A+'s grades, it's definately a big plus, no pun intended.
Just so you know grades aren't everything. For my getting 4.0s were fairly easy, didn't even require much effort. You have to combine grades with high SATs and AP scores and do some ECs.

By Trojan1444 (Trojan1444) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 01:49 am: Edit

To get all A+'s makes your high school look easy. I have an unweighted 4.0, but at my school no one really gets A+'s. An A+ seems like a silly grade to give, that's why in college they don't even have them. To get all A+'s just look ridiculous.

By Cantwait4colleg (Cantwait4colleg) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 02:49 am: Edit

Considering I attend one of the best schools in the state, obviously it is not ridiculous. Instead, it is hard work. Look at the classes I am taking...AP classes. Yes I took 2 AP tests and found them very easy. Maybe that is because the classes offerred were rigorous and demanded effort. I am ranked 6 out of 450 students. If a school wants to distinguish between students, with the same leadership skills, ec's, test scores, etc, A+'s will look much better than A's. Anyone can get straight A's.

By Gilmoregirly22 (Gilmoregirly22) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 03:39 am: Edit

Judging by your last response, I suspect you know just how good your grades are. Perhaps you simply wanted the satisfaction of other people telling you how great you are, just to give your ego a little boost. I'm not saying your grades aren't great - they are outstanding. But maybe you would be more likable if you were more humble. You know not everyone gets straight A+'s, you don't need everyone else to tell you that.

By Trojan1444 (Trojan1444) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:31 am: Edit

No one, and I repeat NO ONE, get ALL A+'s. That is a joke.

By Lame (Lame) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:30 am: Edit

rofl, apparently this guy does. ::scoffs::

By Mazzo (Mazzo) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 10:06 am: Edit

what the heck is AP american lit and AP brit lit? i thought there was only one AP Literature and Composition exam!!!!

By Bdiddy (Bdiddy) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:08 pm: Edit

How do you get straight A+'s in all AP classes and somehow be sixth in your class. Shouldn't you be tied for first? And I wish I got straight A's.

By Anonymous2002 (Anonymous2002) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:23 pm: Edit

lol. AP american lit and brit lit? NO SUCH THING. Either you are a joke or your school is WAY messed up.

By Vaj (Vaj) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:37 pm: Edit

Cantwait4colleg, your school is the best in the state huh? Well what state would that be? I just want to know which state has the shittiest school system!!! You're school is soo ••••••• easy that colleges wont give a •••• what your grades are.

By Sunshine916 (Sunshine916) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

yeah how are you ranked 6th in your class with straight A+'s??? what do the top 5 have? whats higher than an A+???

sorry but if you're 6th in your class with straight A+'s, that just shows how easy your school is and how easy your AP classes are.

1st in my class (at a typical, boring, public school in ohio) doesnt even have straight A+'s, and its not like our school is competitive at all. Your class rank is whats really going to matter, not your grades really, because you are compared to the context of your high school.

no straight A+'s will not look better than straight A's because your A+'s look way too easy to get. and no not anybody can get straight A's. lots of people get into Harvard with a share of B's. Straight A's are pretty rare if you go to a magnet school or another really competitive high school, or just a school who obviously doesnt have over-inflated grades.

no offense, but you sound like a liar. AP Brit Lit, AP American Lit...those aren't even real so either you're lying or you go to a messed up school that calls classes "AP" although there is no AP exam.

By Mariellergram (Mariellergram) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit

I'm second in my class (possibly first after this year), but I rarely get A+'s. A school where a student can have a GPA that high has to be rather easy...

By Cantwait4colleg (Cantwait4colleg) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

Apparently none of you attend a competitive school. I go to a school in which not everyone takes the same classes. So it does not matter that I have straight A+'s. For example, if freshman year I took 8 classes, there were people who took 9. That is how people can be ranked ahead of me. So obviously, if I have received straight A+'s, my school is highly competitive. You all must be jealous that you can't get straight A+'s. Trying to put others, as well as their school down because you can't do that well...HMMMM. And as for the Brit and American Lit thing...no I did not make it up. Seeing as the AP Literature test will encompass many books, our school teaches 2 different full year courses in preparation for the exam. Doesn't sound so stupid does it? And yes, other schools offer AP British Literature. Unfortunately, none of your schools do.

By Apguy (Apguy) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 03:06 pm: Edit

Cantwait4colleg is an obvious fraud guys.

>>And yes, other schools offer AP British Literature. Unfortunately, none of your schools do. <<

Funny how it has nothing to do with schools. There has never been an AP British literature exam in existence. Here are the current AP exams from Collegeboard. (http://www.collegeboard.com/ap/students/subjects.html)

AP SUBJECTS:

Art History
APIEL
Biology
Calculus AB & BC
Chemistry
Computer Science
Economics
English
Environmental Science
European History
French
German Language
Government & Politics
Human Geography
International English Language (APIEL)
Latin
Music Theory
Physics
Psychology
Spanish
Statistics
Studio Art
US History
World History

Where is British Lit again? If you are trying to pull a joke try to tie up the loose ends better. Out of all the APs out there right now you could not have said something like AP World, but instead you had to make one up. Good job idiot.

By Cantwait4colleg (Cantwait4colleg) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:10 pm: Edit

Yes I am a fraud. (This is sarcasm, let me repeat, SARCASM, for all of you who are too stupid to understand) Wow you all are dumb. Look up AP British Literature on the web. You know what you will find? You will find many schools' websites that offer the course. AND YES, I realize there is not a specific exam called British Literature. There is however an exam for English Literature. WAY TO THINK! It makes sense that our school would offer two AP Literature classes that will help prepare us for the AP exam. I could mail my transcript to all of you...but oh wait, I don't really care if you believe me or not. I know I'm telling the truth and that's all that matters. Unfortunately you all just can't get these grades.

By Encomium (Encomium) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:24 pm: Edit

can't wait--I understand, we have honors british literature 1 and 2 that you can take the AP exam after for AP English Literature (as well as American Literature 1 and 2). But it's really your attitude that is most annoying. Like extremely. So go away. Why am I even arguing? Meh.

By Apguy (Apguy) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:31 pm: Edit

If Collegeboard does not recognize such a course and it is not listed above (it isn't) than it cannot hold the title as an "AP" course as that is a trademark of theirs. They have to say "honors" or "advanced" or something along those lines, "AP" would be off limits. Notice how ecomiums "British Lit" course in HONORS and not AP.

Since they are using it they can be sued.

(http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/article/0,3045,149-0-0-21891,00.html)

Here are some excerpts worth noting...

". A course that fails to follow the AP Course Description in a particular subject is not, and should not be designated, an AP course. Such a designation is an improper use of a College Board registered trademark."

"We ask that you review course titles and content, comparing the titles to the enclosed list, AP Courses and Exams. If a course is not on this list, it is not part of the AP portfolio and should not be listed on transcripts with an AP designation. "


Some school you have there. I am sure only the "best" schools engage in unlawful activities that can get them sued by the big CB themselves.

You're funny. Not anything you said, just you as a loser that wastes his time posting fake crap here.

By Apguy (Apguy) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:38 pm: Edit

Oh, and about searching AP British lit on the web. I searched AP Study Hall on the web too. (nothing like sleeping in an ADVANCED study hall right?)

Notice how I ACTUALLY found it: (http://bhs.brainerd.k12.mn.us/pages/departments.html) It is on the last line under the social studies department courses.

By Sunshine916 (Sunshine916) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:52 pm: Edit

"So obviously, if I have received straight A+'s, my school is highly competitive."

hahahahahahahaha THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.

i can name off a handful of kids who have straight A+'s in the easiest classes at my school, and who are probably not even ranked in the top 15%, so does that make my school highly competitive? i dont think so.

really, i dont care if you are a fraud or not because it's your arrogant nature that will get you denied from all of your dream schools. they can pick up on it no matter how much you try to hide it.

Encomium-"luckily, you are the type of person that competitive schools realize is an arrogant prick whom they won't admit! yay for perspicacious adcoms!"-THAT WAS GREAT!!!

if you want to correct someone, do it nicely at least. make sure not to schedule an interview so you dont deflate your chances more.

okay normally anyone on this board can tell you im not a mean person and try to help out, but this post has just struck one too many nerves.

By Got2go (Got2go) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 05:36 pm: Edit

For people like the original poster there should be a new grade like A+**. That is, A+ with little gold star stickers beside them, just like in first grade. Maybe that would make them feel a lot better.

By Sunshine916 (Sunshine916) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 05:55 pm: Edit

also-so you're taking 11 classes next year? shouldnt that boost your rank up since the people ahead of you only took 9?

By Me1 (Me1) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Depends on the school. Some schools don't generally give A+s. I don't think it's common for anyone to have ALL A+s. I mean @ my school, past 9th grade (when there are very limited honors classes) A+s are generally only granted to the highest person in each area & it's VERY rare for someone to be the best student in every subject. And if you're @ a school w/requirements like gym, health, etc. that generally don't give A+s, it's even rarer. If you are ranked #1 (or close) & don't have A+s, colleges will probably realize that your school doesn't generally give them. On the other hand, if you have all A+s & aren't #1, colleges may wonder why.

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 07:20 pm: Edit

My school is a very academically superior school compared to the rest in my state, and believe me, I don't think ANY, ANY body, has ever come even close in getting an A+ in AP's. I mean, I am the valevictorian, and I barely scrape by with As and A-'s(all A's on transcripts), the thing is, if you are in a really tough school like you said, then, no one should get straight A+'s, because, the thing is, in highly competitive schools, classes are suppose to be extra extra hard, therefore, no matter how hard or how smart you are, you still have to work you butt off to get an A, thats what makes it challenging....

By Auzzie (Auzzie) on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 11:44 pm: Edit

do schools give out "A+"'s out your report card and transcript. On our report cards/transcripts, you have an A, B, C, D, or F. I didn't think colleges knew the difference between a 90 A and a 113 A.

By Vaj (Vaj) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:45 am: Edit

This guy is stupid. Don't give him the attention that he doesn't deserve

By Lame (Lame) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 04:22 am: Edit

There are two AP english tests,
Language and Composition
and Language and Literature

the second one does focus on British literature, but the title of the course is not AP British Literature...

By Ashleycrombie (Ashleycrombie) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 11:27 pm: Edit

The fact that the school gives two full year courses in preparation for ONE AP course (which is supposed to take just ONE year), aptly reflects the standard of the school.

AP English Lit is designated as a one-year course for students willing to take the challenge in just one year. If your school needs 2 years to do that....well, what can I say?

I was also wondering, what is considered an A+ in your school? In my school, an A+ is 100%, and that is simply not possible. Even the most intelligent people make errors here and there...and besides, intelligence is not measured by the As or Bs...it's measured by how you see things.

And obviously, you (Cantwait4colleg) have such a parochial view of academia.

It amuses this forum.

By Crnchycereal (Crnchycereal) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 11:39 pm: Edit

Ashleycrombie...excuse me, but what the hell are you talking about? MOST high schools have AP Language and Lit as separate courses...that IS why there are two separate tests after all...

By Ashleycrombie (Ashleycrombie) on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 11:50 pm: Edit

Nononono! You got me wrong! If you keep reading up there, that guy said that for AP English Lit, his school splits it up in AP American Lit and AP Brit Lit, each taking one year each. And these 2 are in preparation for the AP Lit exam.

I know that Lang and Lit are two seperate courses. I took Lang this year and will be taking Lit next year.

Sorry for the confusion!

By Cdrotman (Cdrotman) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 01:14 am: Edit

No offense, but even a school that has more than 3 people out of 100 with STRAIGHT A's, I would consider easy. My grade has 115 people, maybe 2 of which have A's or all A's and an A- in all of their classes. I'm ranked like 5 or 6 and I have 3 A's and 3 A-'s.

By Crystal_Baller (Crystal_Baller) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:23 am: Edit

even the stuyvesant valedictorian isn't that stellar. and it's STUYVESANT!! they most competitive school in the nation. NATION!!!

By Uncchlocalmayor (Uncchlocalmayor) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 11:14 am: Edit

good, want a cookie?

By Crystal_Baller (Crystal_Baller) on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 11:18 am: Edit

do you have PMS?

By Laurstudent (Laurstudent) on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 02:31 pm: Edit

I thought my school over-inflated our grades and not one graduate this past spring had all A's.

By Spiritofhadad (Spiritofhadad) on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 06:49 pm: Edit

IN RESPONSE TO CDROTMAN,

May I remind you that it is not the difficulty of the school, but the difficulty of the teacher/professor in question and the student body. It is unfair to say a school that awards 5 students straight A's from a student body of 100 is easy as opposed to a school that may award 2 students straight A's. Perhaps some of the students are more prevalent in their academics...you wouldn't know.

There are too many factors that MUST be considered in order to make a sound judgement.

Plenty A's are awarded to students attending Harvard? Would you consider their cirriculum an easy one? Or perhaps assume they have careless and weak-minded professors? I sure hope not. If so, congratulations, you're an original Einstein. Otherwise, apply to harvard and await your rejection.

No offense CDRotman, but you have no idea what you're talking about nor do you have reasonable grounds to evaluate a school based on its unique merits. Leave it to the so called professionals.