HELP A GIRL FIND A NON-IVY SCHOOL lol

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Discus: What Are My Chances?: June 2003 Archive: HELP A GIRL FIND A NON-IVY SCHOOL lol

STATS:

ASIAN
1330 SAT (GOING TO TRY AND BRING UP)
3.6 unweighted GPA/3.7 weighted
Been working since i was 14
by end of senior year 6+ APS
havent taken SAT IIs yet, but think ill do decent


key club, national art honor society(minor officer), founder of Future Scientists and ENgineers of AMerica club at our school, acedemic letter, Scholastic bowl, club basketball, dance for two years...


Im thinking of schools like UVA (im in VA), UNC, UMD, BU, TULANE...
what are my chances...

PLUS---know any other schools that are FUN with good rep. and decent business programs that would be good match for me?

By Laur~abby (Laur~abby) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:52 am: Edit

I'm not sure about it having a decent business program, but Emory has a great rep and is in Atlanta so it should definately be fun.... also, try Pitt

By Interesteddad (Interesteddad) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 05:23 pm: Edit

Honestly, if I were a Virgina resident and were paying my own freight, and could get in, I wouldn't even consider anywhere else other than William & Mary or UVA.

You won't find a school that really offers the opporunity for a "better" education. And, the price difference between in-state tuition and the cost of private schools is obscene.

The only exception would be if you got accepted at several places with a large financial package such that the net cost of another school could match the in-state cost in Virginia.

We visited both schools a month ago and liked both very much. Just depends if you are more comfortable at a large-school environment or a smaller/mid-sized university.

By Fiza (Fiza) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 09:57 pm: Edit

hey THANKS A LOT ;0 for the input...yeah im definetly trying for UVA but my stats *ahem* GPA is a bit low...so i was looking for a school thats maybe private as kind of a safety school. Plus im not SURE ill do business, i might do law instead...or engineering.

By B18c1cx (B18c1cx) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:29 pm: Edit

Come to school with me...Franklin & Marshall College. It is an awesome school. 93 academic rating. It has a good business department that is very interactive(stock market/business games and competitions). Also, you have a good chance of getting in. The frat and house parties are abundant and FUN. If that small isn't your thing, check out some schools like Brandeis, Upenn(reach), Villanova(safety), Syracuse(safety), and Colgate would be a good match. A few of my friends are going to be attending colgate next year and say it's a party school.

By Uncchlocalmayor (Uncchlocalmayor) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:37 pm: Edit

UVA.

By Cruelfate (Cruelfate) on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:05 pm: Edit

Another great big vote for Emory...

By Fiza (Fiza) on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 06:35 pm: Edit

yeah emory is religiously affiliated...and im not christian (at all). This has been helpful though. Although im applying to quite a few big name schools, i want to find an underrated *gem* too...

WOW---F&M is ranked #13 for students never stop studying....i want a bit of a party school too. lol. otherwise, it sounds lovely.

By Cruelfate (Cruelfate) on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 07:42 pm: Edit

Just because a school is religously affiliated doesn't mean you will in any way be influenced by that. I'm Jewish and by no means will studying at Emory conflict with that. Why would you want an underrated gem? Although Fiske has a whole section on underrated gems - and the US News email just had an artical on underrated gems, why would you want one? What's the difference if people know about where you went or not - that wont influence the admissions rate if that's what your thinking. I think you are who you are and not the school you go to and you should keep that in mind. Again, a strong vote for Emory!

By Apguy (Apguy) on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 08:13 pm: Edit

Emory rocks. It is prestigious (top 20 US News), has excellent academics especially when it comes to pre-law and medicine (the Jimmy Carter medical center etc.) and the school is filthy rich, the richest university in America because of HUGE grants from Coca Cola and their campus shows just how much money they have. Also, even though Emory is religiously affiliated you really won't notice it. I think a pretty big percentage there are actually Jewish. Remember a ton of schools out there have religious affiliation but you will barely notice it. (Duke)

Oh and Tulane is one of the best business schools in the nation too. That would be a good choice also.

By Interesteddad (Interesteddad) on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 08:59 pm: Edit

I wish I had comparative data on admissions at UVA in-state and out-of-state. It would be very interesting to see the median class rank and SATs for each group.

But, look at it this way. 69% of the class is Virginia residents, 31% out of state. The average SAT score is 1314 combined. So let's estimate on the high side and say that the out-of-state SAT average is 1500. If my math is correct, then that means the average SAT for in-state applicants is 1230, which would be reasonable for a very selective state university.

Look at it another way. UVA had 5727 in-state applicants last year and accepted 3017 of them for an in-state acceptance rate of 53%. That's selective, but not crushingly so. You are at least 100 points above the average in-state SAT. You have an A- average in a Virginia high school. So, if you put together a decent application, I would think you've got a pretty reasonable shot. All you need is not having 3000 applicants from Virginia be clearly better than you. I mean, the absolute worst case is better than a 50/50 shot and you have above average stats.

By contrast, they had 8593 out-of-state applications and accepted 2571 of them. This is a 30% acceptance rate, which is about half-way between Swarthmore's and Vasser's (pretty darn tough).

If you spent some time on the William & Mary website and fiddled around with the math, you could come up with the same numbers for that excellent state university. The numbers are going to be pretty close to UVA's.

If I were your parents, looking at the quality of those two schools and the tuition bills, I would be having you do everything in your power to get into UVA or William & Mary. Visit each school once a month. Take the tours. Sit in the info sessions. Chat up the admissions officers. Ask questions about the departments. Make yourself known. Spend the summer polishing up interesting essays.

By Fiza (Fiza) on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit

hey thanks for all the advice!

By Fiza (Fiza) on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 06:48 pm: Edit

i have so much work ahead of me...

By Fiza (Fiza) on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 04:05 pm: Edit

bump

By Fiza (Fiza) on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 01:39 pm: Edit

bump

By Fiza (Fiza) on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 09:49 pm: Edit

please please respond...

By Fiza (Fiza) on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 04:53 pm: Edit

bump