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This girl from my school with a 1140 got into Brown. Not to be mean, but by no stretch of the imagination is she an astounding talent at anything. No substantial hooks at all. However, she is of Cuban descent, and has a sister currently attending there. After reading some of the Brown rejections on this board, I have lost complete faith in the idea that college admissions are based on merit.

By Spiffybrownboy (Spiffybrownboy) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 05:39 pm: Edit

Yep... legacies. On top of that she's hispanic. woohoo. I agree, everything is screwed up.

Speaking of legacies, does anybody know if having a former professor of a certain university in your family makes you a legacy? I don't think so, but it should have some bearing on admission, right? My father is a former professor of both Case Western and NYU, so I was wondering.

By Intangible (Intangible) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 05:45 pm: Edit

I realize that the "legacy" (is she classified as one? I was under the impression it's only if one of your parents graduated from that school) status and the minority standing might have helped, but a 1140?! In addition to that, this girl had hardly any AP's, no atheletics, and probably a 3.7ish GPA. Come on now!

By L76 (L76) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 07:15 pm: Edit

So life's not fair. What's your point.

By Batman (Batman) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 08:07 pm: Edit

College admissions have never been completely based on merit. Your "faith" was misplaced from the beginning. However, now that you understand that, the best thing you can do for yourself is stop worrying about why they admitted someone you feel is less worthy and concentrate on how you can position yourself as an attractive candidate for the schools of interest to you.

By Intangible (Intangible) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 09:32 pm: Edit

I'm just expressing my opinion on the matter, no need to get cross. I am admitted to the college of my choice, thank you very much.

By Ionic_Bond (Ionic_Bond) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 09:33 pm: Edit

Or you can write to your senators and tell them that you don't appreciate having your 14th amendment rights violated.

http://www.senate.gov/

Remember to include your name and address. They will send you a letter in reply (form letter usually, but in really nice stationary )

Your voice will be heard.

By Pennquaker13 (Pennquaker13) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 09:45 pm: Edit

Out of curiousity, intangible, what school would that be?

By Intangible (Intangible) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 09:50 pm: Edit

Notre Dame

By ~the_Chosen~ (~the_Chosen~) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 04:17 am: Edit

Having a brother or sister attending the school is NOT a legacy. If your parents went there and they pay a considerable amount of donations to the university, that is a legacy.

By Dream5 (Dream5) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 04:56 am: Edit

you are wrong, Chosen. That IS a legacy.

By Howdydoody (Howdydoody) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 10:35 am: Edit

Is she 100% Cuban? Does she look it? Hispanic last name?

By Intangible (Intangible) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 04:25 pm: Edit

She does NOT look Cuban. I'm not sure if she's 100%, but yes, she does have a hispanic last name. And a correction, she got a 1080.

By Ionic_Bond (Ionic_Bond) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 05:41 pm: Edit

Is she poor? Or is she rich/middle class like the usual AA kid?

1080, pathetic. Of course, she is the cream of URM crop or else she wouldn't have been accepted to that doormat ivy.

By Primadonna (Primadonna) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 01:18 pm: Edit

Boo F-in hoo, here you are blabbering about some cuban who got in based soley on how awful her SAT score was. It's about time for our generation to rid themselves of that ridiculous mentality; so what, she got a 1080, she's a bad test taker. Are you her best friend? Do you know that she's simply a "lame brain" and is your intelligence further diminished by someone inferior to you getting accepted to this school?

By Ionic_Bond (Ionic_Bond) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 01:25 pm: Edit

Yeah, I have a problem with a college using race as a factor in admissions.
You would have been great in the 1960's.

Black guy: Can I use this water fountain?
White guy: No, you're black.
Black guy: That's not very fair.
Primadonna: Boo f-ing hoo, black guy. Get over it.

By Apguy (Apguy) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 04:12 pm: Edit

>>> "you are wrong, Chosen. That IS a legacy. <<<

Um, no, YOU are wrong.

(Taken from "A is for Admission" written by a Dartmouth admissions officer, Chapter 12-Flags and Tags: Legacies)

"What exactly is a legacy? At most of the highly selective colleges, it is defined as the son or daughter of a graduate from that undergraduate institution. In other words, if either of your parents attended Dartmouth College, you would be considered a legacy there. Many people mistakenly think that grandparents or great-grandparents count-they do not. Nor do siblings who attend, nor do relatives who attended any of a college's professional schools. For all intents and purposes, a parent has to have attended Dartmouth college, or the respective Ivy League school to which the student is applying, in order to be considered a legacy."


There's nothing like seeing someone make an assertion....that is wrong. ESPECIALLY when they are correcting someone else's correct statement.

By Primadonna (Primadonna) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 06:32 pm: Edit

I always forget that racism was soley reserved for the 1960's, thanks for rehashing that info.

By Intangible (Intangible) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:59 pm: Edit

I didn't claim she has a "lame brain", and I happen to be friends with her. I'm happy for her that she has gained admission into one of the most selective schools in the nation. That, however, does not take away from the fact that I'm realistic. I've known her for 4 years, and have had numerous classes with her. While she is not the brightest cookie, she is definitely not stupid. At the same time, she isn't the hardest worker either. She got a 1080 because she didn't put the effort into academics, whereas someone of a different background put in twice as much work, only to be denied the same opportunity she was offered - largely based on ethnicity.

My ego is not wounded, I know my capabilities quite well. In any event, this thread is not even remotely related to that issue. You presumed I perceive inferiority as far as she is concerned, yet where do you see me blabbering about how much better I am than her? Also, where the hell did I insinuate she got in BECAUSE of her "awful" SAT score? Work on your logistics of speech before you speak up please.

By Intangible (Intangible) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:59 pm: Edit

:P

By Primadonna (Primadonna) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 02:11 pm: Edit

Sure, after you make a comment so open to interpretation and vague as the one you did, I'll hit the speech books. I know you probably meant well, and given your response, you did--your ego is clearly not wounded and my intention was not to do so--leave me to little else to say. F it, congrats on getting into your dream school and I can't wait to hear more of your defensive response, peace.

By Primadonna (Primadonna) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 02:47 pm: Edit

You seem bitter but I doubt you are--actually you've reaffirmed that you aren't. I honestly comprehend this vexation, let me explain why. I am a minority (Mexican) female who is strong both academically and extra curricularly. I'm going to Northwestern and I got into Brown, based allegedly on my academic success upon other merits (supposedly). I can list you all the awards, talents, and factors that make me an attractive applicant and moreso a prospective student, but regardless of these tenets, I am the "minority case". You've heard this before but I'll say it again, I bust my ass and there are people who still get into institutions of prestige who are presumably "less equipped". And though you probably will misinterpret this, understand that comments such as the first one made appear unintelligent (I know I know I know, you're not and you've proven it etc... and ill informed on college acceptance procedures. Is that possible? =)

By Babouche (Babouche) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 05:04 pm: Edit

Look guys.......Get real My last name is Rodriguez, how many people have thrown my resume without even looking at it after they saw my name. A study was conducted by MIT and resumes were sent to different companies in the Chicago area. Same background, different names......And guess what? all those spanish sounding names were never called for an interview.

So let's face it....hispanics are discrimated against in the labor market