Application process/timeline questions

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Discus: Parents Forum: 2004 Archive - Part 2: Application process/timeline questions
By Control25 (Control25) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:52 am: Edit

I have an incomming (non-plussed)senior for whom i am (tentativly) acting as guidance counselor.
The app. process seems so simple but with many threads to pull together. Is this the way it works?:
1. fill out app online send
2.have hs send transcripts to prospective colleges
3.have sat scores sent to prospective colleges
4. ask for recs have them sent
1.when do you fill/send in out fafsa (is this sent by us to individual colleges)or do you fill out form (online?) and put in college codes?
2. does housing form get filled out only after acceptance?
3.when applying early(not ed/ea, just early)do you still not find out acceptance/rejection until spring?

By Garland (Garland) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:11 pm: Edit

They way you explained the app process is basically what we followed. However, some high schools package things in particular ways, so it's important to check with how your school prefers to do it.

1. You fill out FAFSA any time after Jan. 1. You put the codes on for the colleges you want it to go to, and it's sent to them.
2. Housing forms are normally sent to you after acceptance.
3. This depends on the college. My S applied to Umich in September, and heard in October. This was a rolling admission school. If it's regular spring admission, most schools will tell you on their website when they send out the decisions.

Good luck!

By Achat (Achat) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

About FAFSA, if you are applying to more than 6 schools, then you need to send 6, then edit your FAFSA and send the additional schools. There are other options but FAFSA will only allow 6 at a time. Another thing to remember is not to forget the FAFSA pin because it takes 2-3 days to get a PIN even by email.

Also, if you are applying to some schools, they also require a CSS profile which is similar to FAFSA but not run by the Govt.

By Newnudad (Newnudad) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit

IMO - Fill out the CSS profile wherever possible. The CSS is much more detailed than the FAFSA, and the FAFSA family contribution is a has no relationship to reality. The CSS profile allowed Finance Office people to see that we actually have no money, unlike the FAFSA, which said that we could pay $17 K a year!

By Control25 (Control25) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 02:39 pm: Edit

Thank you all! Very helpful. What is/where to find out about CSS?
PS I'm thinking of hiring someone (professional) to help with application process-our hs has 500 students per counselor, any thoughts?

By Achat (Achat) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 02:45 pm: Edit

But newnudad, CSS profile is not required by many schools. We filled out the CSS for some schools but for example not for U Mich or even maybe NYU. I don't remember which ones.

By Achat (Achat) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 02:47 pm: Edit

Here is a link to CSS profile and another link to which schools participate in CSS profile:

By Jamimom (Jamimom) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit

The posts are right on. You do have to coordinate with the school as to what their procedures and guidelines are. My son ran afoul of the college counseling department by completely disregarding their procedures, and though I felt they were not particularly efficient, he should have followed their guidelines or at least discussed the exceptions instead of dumping his stuff on them according o some other timeline. Some schools only want the stuff by due date of the apps. Some want all of your apps together. Some have a form they want you to fill out for each school and they want you to mail out the app. Others want the entire file including teachers rec forms and the dept takes care of the whole thing and sends the entire package out. If you want to do things differently from the prescribed procedure, it is wise to diplomatically ask, not ramrod them into your style.

There are schools that are on rolling admissions or just have early answers for early submitted apps, but other than the increasing number of schools that are jumping the gun on the early April notifications, most schools bide by that date unless they specify they are rolling admissions. We did get some responses early, however, for no explained reason. Would not count on that. And even with rolling admissions, you may not hear till late. There are a few apps that keep getting rolled into the next batch to consider. These are usually borderline cases, and you may not hear till way after all of the other schools if you fall in that category.

By Cangel (Cangel) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 03:23 pm: Edit

Control25, there have been a couple of threads on hired counselors, do some searches on Parents Forum and Admissions forum and you'll find them. There are pros and cons - 1 counselor for 500 students would be a good reason to at least consider it.

By Thumper1 (Thumper1) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 04:45 pm: Edit

1.when do you fill/send in out fafsa (is this sent by us to individual colleges)or do you fill out form (online?) and put in college codes?

The FAFSA will be available online after January 1. You can fill it out online anytime after that. It is easiest to do once you have completed your taxes for 2004. However, some schools will want you to file the FAFSA as soon as possible indicating a "will file" status on the FAFSA. If you do this you will use the data from your 2003 return and amend the FAFSA once you have completed the 2004 return. To file online you and your child will both need PIN numbers. You can apply for these online and I think this can be done at any time.

2. does housing form get filled out only after acceptance?


3.when applying early(not ed/ea, just early)do you still not find out acceptance/rejection until spring?

It depends. If the school has rolling admissions you will hear in a few weeks. Schools with rolling admissions process applications as they arrive continuously. Some schools also have early applications. If you complete your application by a certain date they will inform you of their decision before the Christmas break. For schools that do not send acceptances before April first (or the end of March), sending your application early will not net you an earlier letter of acceptance. These schools send them all at the same time. Regardless (except for ED) you have until May 1 to commit to a school.

By Ellemenope (Ellemenope) on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit

Most college applications have their own recommendation forms that you need to use and their own "school report" forms (which will need to be filled out by the guidance counselor and often call for a certified transcript as part of the package). Be sure to send in addressed, stamped envelopes to your gc and teacher recommenders.

Check to see if there are specific requirements for extra materials like music tapes, artwork, research papers, etc.

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