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Did anyone else take the SAT2 Bio test today? If you did, say which section you picked and what you thought overall about the test.

By Jessica_H (Jessica_H) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:52 am: Edit

I did, I did molecular. it wasn't really that hard, I got a bit confused with which biome (?) provided the most food for humans though. what about you?

By Studyguy346 (Studyguy346) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:02 pm: Edit

I also chose molecular and thought it was pretty straightforward. A couple of questions I wasn't sure about, but overall I hope to get a 700.

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

URGH!

nothing i studied was on it! no organismal, no nothing!

By Varr (Varr) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:34 pm: Edit

Hmm I kind of didnt have enough time to read as carefully!! I left 3 blank and guessed in a couple.
I feel I will be retaking it

By Jessica_H (Jessica_H) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

the 5' 3' about DNA was a bit tough.. it wasn't in my book, I had to try and remeber stuff I learnt ages ago

By Varr (Varr) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

SAME HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was sooooooooooooooooooooooo ready for organismal!!!!!!! and there was NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!


rrrrrrrr!!!

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:38 pm: Edit

Varr..

I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW! 928374983274% were about stupid tropisms and plants..

SO PISSED!!!!

By Varr (Varr) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

yes!!!!!!!!!! me too!!!!!!!!!

and in those they had tons of simillar words!!! like photoxis or something like it!!!!
sooooo confusing!!!!!
what did you oput on the one about paremecium??? in the begining???


why couldnt they have had asked about the brain, heart etc...

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

damn it, you're telling me! i took bio in 9th grade and am taking AP now, so i self-studied.

LOAD. OF. BS.

All of the systems/organs? Eh, no.

I didn't even know what the hell "photoxis" was..

the paramecium? was that question #1?
i got mutualism for 2 of them... commensalism for one.. and altruism for the other (something like that).

Are crab shells made of chitin?

And for the last "M" lab... since it dipped sharply (bacteria decrease) and went back up, was that because they had a mutation to become resistant to it? no clue.

oh, and which one of these is NOT a mutation

an aberrant chromosome
post-transcription mRNA?

i put the latter.. no idea, though. can something go wrong after mRNA is transcribed?

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit

oh, and which biome provides the most food?

grasslands or deciduous forest?

i put grasslands..they're fertile, right?

By Jessica_H (Jessica_H) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

crab shells are made of chitin or whatever, and I put the latter one two. photoxis is phototropism for cells and stuff (I think) so it should have been in there somewhere

By Jessica_H (Jessica_H) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

crab shells are made of chitin or whatever, and I put the latter one too. photoxis is phototropism for cells and stuff (I think) so it should have been in there somewhere

By Varr (Varr) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

I self studied too!!!! im also self studying ap biology

I have NOOOO IDEA!!! some I just guessed some I left blank I am retaking forsure!!!

By Wrathofgod64 (Wrathofgod64) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit

R2005

I looked up "mutation" and it said "a relatively permanent change in hereditary material involving either a physical change in chromosome relations or a biochemical change in the codons that make up genes" so it looks like ur right. I think the problem has to be in the genes itself, rather than a transcriptional problem.

By Chumboy87 (Chumboy87) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 01:52 pm: Edit

Took molecular. A word to you out there...the word was "phototaxis." Taxis is a word that means exhibited behavior in response to a stimulus. So if it's phototaxis, it means there is a change in behavior in response to light. Plants and insects display this. The bacteria one was that some bacteria were resistent to the mecidine, and they reproduced after the non-resistant ones died off. I don't remember which choice it was though. Also, I put grasslands. Most meat we eat lives on grassland and not in forests. But I just guessed on that one.

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 02:11 pm: Edit

were they resistant to it b/c of a mutation, though?

i can't remember. i think i put b.

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 02:16 pm: Edit

does anyone remember other questions on there? I just can't remember any. I had trouble with like 10 of them...

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 07:02 pm: Edit

For the medicine one with the bacteria, I put if the doctors had used another type of medicine after the day the bacteria sharply crashed all of them would've been killed.

Yeah, planarians respond to phototaxis. Grassland=most foody biome, post-transcriptional is not a mutation-->aberrant chromosome has lasting effects.

The nephron filters blood to make urine! Hooray!

Enymes to degrade starches are in the small intestine and mouth. (Amylase and maltase and such.)

The reptile in the hot climate excretes uric acid.

The two strands of DNA go in opposite directions with respect to the 3' end and 5' end.

Was the filtered sap stuff a virus? That's what I put.

And the plants developed the cuticle when going from water to land. That's all I remember.

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 07:04 pm: Edit

I liked that test! It tested me on all the stuff that I knew. All the stuff that I knew. It was rather like the AP exam last year. :P

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 07:22 pm: Edit

That bio was alright. ehh how many can you miss to pull a 750? I actually omitted 4 questions, ehh.

My plant knowledge was sooo dead today, ehh i haven't learned about angiosperms/gymnosperms in 3 years. I know angiosperms are fruit-bearing, so gymno would just have naked seeds? There were a few questions which you had to use this info on, so I'm hoping I was right. Was I? hehe

The question about which biome produces the most food. That is the rainforest one or whatever answer it was that means rainforest. The tropics maybe? I dunno how they worded it. Think about it, tropical rainforests have the greatest biodiversity EVER. It's said that the majority of life in the rainforest still hasn't been discovered! So lots of biodiversity = lots of animals/plants = lots of food. hehe, I also think this was the answer because I'm pretty sure this question was in the Real SATII Subjective Tests book's test and it was in tropical rainforest or whatever there.

FOr mutation one, I put the mRNA answer. I forgot exactly what aberration was but it sounded like a mutation to me. I think mutations have to occur during DNA replication anyway, and the mRNA choice dealt with transcription. I dunno...

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 08:38 pm: Edit

The question wasn't asking which biome has the most biodiversity. Didn't it ask which biome produces the most food for humans? I mean, there is some cattle ranching on land that used to be rain forest land... and we eat some chocolate and other random things, but I thin this'd be minimal compared to all the grains from the grasslands, yes?

By Emilia (Emilia) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 09:28 pm: Edit

I liked the test, and I took the M section...I'm in my second year of IB biology and read the Kaplan book religiously.

Just some of what I put down...
- Grasslands for the biome question
- Choice B for the DNA one - C,D, and E had 3' 3' strands, which is wrong, and choice A had U - uracil - which is endemic to RNA.
- Uric acid for the lizards, but it was a guess.
- I didn't know what phototaxis was...
- For the urine bacteria one, I put choice D, that some bacteria were resistant...but that was a guess.
- I also put virus down for the tomato disease pathogen.


I was just generally frustrated at the abundance of ecology-type questions on the general section. I knew I was taking M and didn't study that material.

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:22 pm: Edit

My answers are exactly the same as Emilia's though I'm still unsure about the biome question, it could be either grasslands or tropical rainforests.

By R2005 (R2005) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:52 pm: Edit

Just because tropical rainforests have the highest biodiversity doesn't mean they also have the highest source of HUMAN food. do we consume all of those plants, insects, birds, etc? Nope.

I think grasslands is right.

ETA: There was most definitely too much ecology on the general portion of the test. A rather large emphasis on plants existed as well. I loathed it, for lack of a better word.

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:10 pm: Edit

It was pretty easyish..but I make stupid mistakes so let's see. Here are some of my answers on those "controversial" questions that no one can decide on..haha..wow..yea..

-Grasslands for the human food question..I just figured grass=grazing=animals we eat..plus like wheat and all that..?

-For the phototaxis question..I got two of them as phototrophism. According to Campbells..a taxis is a movement towards or away from a stimulus. This was in the section dealing with prokaryotes though. Phototrophism is a movement towards (if it's a positive phototrophism) light. So that's what I put. So I'm not sure because they both sound so similar. Wow..long explanation sorry.

- For the urine bacteria question I put E that the levels returned to normal. I was just guessing on this..thinking that we possibly have bacteria in our urine otherwise..and there was a increase first because it was getting back to the original level then it evened out. I dunno..my strange logic there.

- For the tomato disease question I put bacteria because the question said that it was finely filtered or something to that extent..and bacteria are much smaller than viruses so I figured they might pass through the filter.

- For the Mendel question..what did you guys put?

=) I'm just glad it's over

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:29 pm: Edit

How many wrong out of 80 can you get for a 750+?

Did anyone else also get phototropism as the answer twice?

for DNA strand, I chose B. There were two answers with the correct pairing but the number had to be different between the top and bottom, not left and right.

is the ultra-filtration question definitely bacteria? damn. Never in my textbook have I come across that term. I feel gypped.


PS. those of you who took the Ecology section, please post up some more answers.

By Emilia (Emilia) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:36 pm: Edit

For the Mendel, I was stuck between C, that he used quantitave data in the study of genetics and E, that he used agricultural principles in studying genes. I ended up putting C, but I wasn't positive. The whole studying agriculture thing doesn't sound too impressive in the scope of scientific discovery, haha.

This probably isn't a controversial one, but could someone please explain to a person who knows little about evolution which would NOT be an evolutionary scenario supporting the theory that two species of snails found on two nearby islands have a common ancestor? I believe the choices were natural selection, genetic drift, mutation, convergence, and migration, and I guessed that it was convergence.

I'm hoping for a 730+ *crosses fingers*...hopefully a strong biology score and writing score will ofset a poor math score for a future science major.

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:38 pm: Edit

convergence

that example was DIVERGENCE, which implies common ancestery

By Emilia (Emilia) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:44 pm: Edit

Energy:

I put phototropism twice, but I didn't know the meaning of phototaxism.

Based on preliminary Google search results, I'd say that those ultrafine filters do filter out viruses, so the answer probably was bacteria...Sorry, you guys. I hated that question anyhow.

From my Kaplan book, here is the (rather genorous) curve for higher scores on both the E and M options (decide their accuracy for yourselves):
Raw - Scaled
80 - 800
79 - 800
78 - 800
77 - 800
76 - 790
75 - 790
74 - 790
73 - 780
72 - 780
71 - 770
70 - 770
69 - 760
68 - 760
67 - 750
66 - 750
65 - 740
64 - 730
63 - 720
62 - 710
61 - 700

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:06 am: Edit

Viruses are generally smaller than bacteria. So why would the bacteria not be filtered if the viruses were?

And I put the thing about Mendel using qualitative info and such.

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:26 am: Edit

Emilia:

Here's the curve on Real SAT II book for Biology-M. Maybe Real SAT II is more "real", I hope. hehe...dunno though.

80 - 800
79 - 800
78 - 800
77 - 800
76 - 800
75 - 800
74 - 800
73 - 790
72 - 790
71 - 780
70 - 770
69 - 770
68 - 760
67 - 750
66 - 750
65 - 740
64 - 730

I just realized I missed the question about birds, somehow I thought birds have teeth...hahaha

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:33 am: Edit

Jenesaispas:

I think the question is asking for the thing that passed through the filter. Bacteria are bigger than viruses so only viruses passed through.

I also put the quantitative/qualitative for Mendel.

Does anyone remember exactly what the mutation question was, like how it was phrased and the answer options?

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:39 am: Edit

Yes, I said the same thing for the filtration question, Asfafan.

I think the question went...

Which of these is NOT an example of a mutation...
chromosomal aberration
.
.
.
post-transcriptional mRNA error or something

Does photoperiodism relate to birds' reproducing too?

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:50 am: Edit

For whoever asked, I had phototropism twice. I knew it came down b/w tropism and taxis for those 2, so I had no idea and chose tropism. haha, after looking up both words now, I think tropism is the better answer. I dunno, the definitions were honestly almost identical hahaha...sooo uhh yea...but the tropism definition may have slightly fit the questions better. we'll find out in a few weeks.

For the filtration one, that's viruses. Bacteria is not the answer because the filter simply filters out the prokaryotes (bacteria). The other answers weren't right for the same reason because they too were their own cells and could theoretically be filtered. Finally, viruses worked out because viruses infect host cells and live within them. In order to get rid of viruses, the filter would have to filter out the infected eukaryotes, risking filtering out uninfected cells as well. Thus, I don't think a virus can be filtered out. At least that's what I thought of within a few seconds after reading the question and chose it.

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 11:09 am: Edit

Yea youre probably right aboutthe filter thing..man Im just realizing how many I missed because of stupid mistakes. And the bird teeth thing..somehow I made the same stupid mistake. Ha..ok well Im just gonna go pray or something

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 11:14 am: Edit

I know for a fact that the planarian (the flatworm with the eyespot) responds to light through phototaxis. Phototropism is what plants to when they move towards the light.

And photoperiodism was in fact the thing the birds that reproduced when the days got longer used.

By Jessica_H (Jessica_H) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 11:48 am: Edit

so did the lizard in the hot acid excrete uric acid? why? I got confused by that one too

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

wait.. i thought the mendel one was "A."

Something about pea plants and parents/offspring?

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit

The reproduction of vegetables like pea plants? I don't think taht's what made him the father of genetics.

Jessica, yes, reptiles do excrete uric acid. It just serves to conserve water, even though I think it requires more ATP to make it.

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit

awww, I misssed the uric acid one. My first instinct was uric acid but I think I chose...uhh urea instead? I just know I marked D/E and uric acid was B, *sighh*

Jenesai...yea that sounds right. I guess that means I missed the planarian one, heh. I did choose phototropism for the plants one tho and photoperiodism for the birds reproductive thing. The longer days were caused because of the time of year, which I assumed was related to "period." haha whatever, my logic was probably wrong but I thought I would miss all those questions. So I'm fairly happy if what you said is correct since I got the majority of the questions :-D

uhhh the Mendel's law thing, naaa it wasn't A. I put C, I think, because all the crossing grids or whatever come from Mendel and C said Mendel qualitatively (which I assumed were the crossing punette squares) studied crosses between genes. ehhh something, like that. hopefully you guys understand what I'm saying haha.

Also, the first 4 questions on the test...someone earlier said they had 2 mutualism, 1 something, and 1 altruisim. I had 3 mutualism and 1 something else. I think the differnence in our answers was I put mutualism for the one he/she chose altruism. Which one was altruism!? Altruism is just selflessness. I don't remember any of those questions showing the organism was doing something only for the benefit of another organism. What was the one about the rabbit/whatever making the sound to inform the other rabbits/whater that the predator was coming, warning the "rabbits" but also possibly giving hints to the predator??

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 01:46 pm: Edit

No, the one where (I thought it was a squirrel?) sounding off to inform others of the danger was altruism. It even said he was sacrificing his own safety.

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit

Another question..

The pedigree lab.

Did you say it was a recessive trait?
AND.. for the last kid who had it.. it said, "Who else must also have it or carry it?"

I put individuals 1 AND 5. Right? The grandparent must have had it, and hence, the kid's parent had to also, right?

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:19 pm: Edit

I dunno about that because the one choice that included the grandparents didn't include the actual parents. So I chose D, which was the #s of only the parents.

I guess that squirrel one is altruism? I dunno, he wasn't really sacrificing himself. He was sacrificing the safety of all the squirrels. So I put mutualism because the squirrels gained the knowledge that the predator was there and the predator gained the knowledge that all the squirrels were there, hahaha doesn't make much sense but I still don't agree he was being altruistic since he was sacrificing the safety of all the squirrels, not just himself. ehhh whatever, i guess altruism. hehe any1 else?

By Varr (Varr) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:32 pm: Edit

I picked altruism too!!

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:34 pm: Edit

i put altruism..it was just a guess..it didnt say that it would alert the predator of ALL their locations..just that specific squirrel

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 04:36 pm: Edit

for the lizard emitting waste question

I used the process of elimination

ammonia is excreted by creatues that live in water environments and is most acidic

urea is excreted by mammals like humans (think kidney)

since lizards in hot places have little in common with sea life and human beings, I chose uric acid.

ps. one was commensalism because the cow was not benefiting or suffering while the other benefits

mutualism: rhino
altruism: squirrel

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit

Both of the parents had to have the recessive allele. That's all you know. You don't know which grandparents, or whatever. But since it's autosomal recessive, the answer was people 4 and 5... the parents, if that's their numbers.

And then the two boys were twins, yes?

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit

yeah i think they are twins.

I put mutualism on the cow one. I think that thing which feeds on the parasites living on the cow is actually helping the cow. And the cow is giving that parasite-eater its food. So they are both benefitting...I'm not sure tho.

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:10 pm: Edit

No... the egrets were just eating the insects that the cow caused to move hwen it was walking. The insects weren't harming the happy cow.

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:30 pm: Edit

i didn't say they were twins.

i said they were the brothers of the one on the other side. they both had the same parents.

By Emilia (Emilia) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 05:50 pm: Edit

In pedigrees, identical twins are always symbolized by one line split into two with two circles (girls) or two squares (boys). So the correct answer was that they were twin brothers.

Thought of some more questions that were iffy, at least for me:

- In the general section on the page dealing with the plant experiment, what did you all put down for the question about the factor on the cellular level that stimulated the plant's response to each stimuli? I believe the choices included plant homrones (which I chose), oxygen, and three others that have escaped my mind at the present.

- Which two pairs were most likely to be in the same trophic level? I put the wolf and the sheep because the sheep is a herbivore and the wolf is a carnivore....

- What was the likelihood of the young man whose father had been diagonosed with Huntington's disaease, passed on by a dominant allele, developing this disease when he got older? I put 75% because we know the mother was recessive for the trait (she didn't have Huntingtons disease) but it's uncertain whether the father was dominant homozygous (HH) or heterozygous (Hh) so the little chart I made out looked like:

If Dad is Hh and mom is hh:
Hh, Hh, hh, hh (50% chance)
If dad is HH and mom is hh:
Hh, Hh, Hh, Hh (100% chance)

so 8 possible combinations, and 6 of them (Hh) would mean that the young man would develop Huntington's, so that's 75%, right?

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit

the parents were 5 and 6 I think

damn, i got the cow question wrong?

I thought it meant the egrets or something were eating some wastes the cow left behind.

i HATE getting easy questions wrong. but I do.

By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit

Yes, it was hormones.

I dunno about the Huntington's one, though. I just figured he was heterozygous.

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

i thought he was heterozygous, so i put 50.

i'm wrong, though.

By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:14 pm: Edit

i put wolf and sheep too. I remember putting 0%, 50%, 100% on genetic questions... dunno which ones...man you people have waaay better memory than I do. I wouldn't be able to remember this many questions if I spent the entire testing time on memorizing the questions...haha

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:16 pm: Edit

well, after missing so many.. you can't help but remember all of them.

royally fu cked over here.

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:27 pm: Edit

the huntington disease was definitely 75%?

I put 50% as well. for some bizarre reason I assumed that one of the parent was heterozygous.

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:55 pm: Edit

According to Campbells..haha yea had to whip it out..page 255..."Any child born to a parent who has the allele for Huntington's disease has a 50% change of inheriting the alleale and the disorder". That happens to be all it says on that particular aspect of the disease. So is it impossible to be AA? Because the book only shows one possible test cross of Aa x aa..and obviously you can have aa x aa. Hm...not sure but I dont even remember that question.
I also put wolf and sheep because one is a primary consumer and the other is secondary.
=)

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:58 pm: Edit

by the way..did anyone else think that for alot of these you could narrow it down to like 2 of em..but then it was hard to pick between those 2? haha hopefully it wasnt just me

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:58 pm: Edit

by the way..did anyone else think that for alot of these you could narrow it down to like 2 of em..but then it was hard to pick between those 2? haha hopefully it wasnt just me

By R2005 (R2005) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 07:35 pm: Edit

sure did..always two..
i failed

By Varr (Varr) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:55 pm: Edit

same here I could narrow down to 2 but choosing one was HARD!!!

By Sqingx (Sqingx) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:17 am: Edit

I am taking SAT II bio in nov. i thought you have to take e/m. Do you get to choose????

my study guide came with e/m, which one is easier/harder?

Plz help

By R2005 (R2005) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:20 am: Edit

I think M is easier. But I'm molecular oriented.

It depends on the person, really.

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:21 am: Edit

ecology 61~80
molecular 81~100

you choose BEFORE the test which 20 questions you want to do in addition to the general questions (1~60).

I chose ecology since it seemed to test reasoning more but some questions totally threw me off.

try both (1~100) and see how you do on each.

By Frazzled (Frazzled) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:53 am: Edit

yea i took e the first time and m the second time..didnt see a huge difference in difficulty. m was a bit harder i guess

By Sqingx (Sqingx) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 04:31 pm: Edit

so you choose the test, but how is it scored?

By Sqingx (Sqingx) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 04:31 pm: Edit

so you choose the test, but how is it scored?

By Energy1 (Energy1) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 06:27 pm: Edit

same rules as any other SAT.

just out of 80 questions.