Harsh June 5th SAT I Verbal Curve

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By Mlin (Mlin) on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit

Apparently, many of us were wrong about the possibility of the verbal curve being slightly more lenient due to the difficulty of the questions.

I received my official score report last Friday. My raw score was a 69/78 (one off from my prediction based on the unofficial Q&A list we compiled -- thanks!) and that converted to a 710.

Based on this data, I believe the V. curve is something similar to that used on the Jan 1997 test:

75 = 800
74 = 780
73 = 760
72 = 750
71 = 730
70 = 720
69 = 710

That is pretty harsh; don't you agree? It's the worst verbal curve out of all the ones I've seen in the 10 Reals book. I haven't heard of any 1600s on this particular administration yet.

By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 05:27 pm: Edit

Yea, that seems right because my 5 wrong (72) was a 750. We got the shaft with both curves on the June SAT. 2 wrong (58) in the math was a 750. That is even more insane than the verbal curve.

By Number9 (Number9) on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 06:20 pm: Edit

I missed 9 and got a 700. :-\

By Cavalier302 (Cavalier302) on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:13 pm: Edit

What's the easiest math curve you guys have heard of for math? I missed 2 on the math and got a 750...whats the highest you've ever heard a raw score of 58 getting?

By Thegumby (Thegumby) on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:18 pm: Edit

I missed 2 on verbal and got an 800.
I missed 4 on math and got a 710.

By Neolinski (Neolinski) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 01:30 am: Edit

that's .. crazy.

does college look upon that? or somehow know difference between hard one and easy one?

just curious .. (and hoping better on octorber -0-)

By Julians (Julians) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:15 am: Edit

Actually, I got a 1600. I thought it was pretty easy.

By Boomer01 (Boomer01) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:52 am: Edit

Verbal curve was definitely harsh. I kept getting 720+ on practice tests but got a 660 on the real deal.

By Frs (Frs) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:54 am: Edit

Julians, how did you prepare for the SAT?

By Julians (Julians) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit

I took the October SAT for diagnostic purposes, and got a 1540 (800 verbal, 740 math). I then got the 10 real SATs book and took 4 practice tests, scoring 1600, 1600, 1590, and 1600. I figured that the three I missed on the Oct. math were probably fluke questions, and that I had a good chance of getting 1580+ on a retake. So I retook. I didn't take any special classes or use any traditional test-prep books, and the way I take tests probably wouldn't work for most people. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

By Insanity (Insanity) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 08:42 pm: Edit

Curves were badd
I missed 7 verbal = 720
I missed 3 math = 740


By Crazylicious (Crazylicious) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:42 pm: Edit


Verbal: (bloomer: we got the same verbal)
missed 9
skipped 4
(so really: minus 10)
= 660

missed 6 (2 of which were free-reponse)
skipped 7 (2 of which were free-reponse)

wow... i'm stupid :(

By Chidimma (Chidimma) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:58 pm: Edit

I had 7 wrong and got a 710

By Mlin (Mlin) on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 10:06 pm: Edit

The most lenient math curve I've seen was as follows:

60 = 800
59 = 800
58 = 780
57 = 770
56 = 750

By Blahdude (Blahdude) on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 10:30 pm: Edit

i missed one in math..and got a 780...harsh...

By Xiggi (Xiggi) on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 11:00 pm: Edit

Easier tests get harsh curves, Harder tests get lenient curves.

It does not get simpler than that!

By Benzinspeicher (Benzinspeicher) on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 12:47 am: Edit

that's one more thing i hate about SAT I math besides the fact that most screw ups among ppl over 90th percentile are stupid mistakes as opposed to not figuring out the solution; the questions are so easy that the curve is so harsh-i think the new sat math should be the same concept, just harder questions (as in harder to figure out) so less people would figure out the problems, people who get 700s on them won't have the same ability as people who get 800s (so, it should be more like the current verbal), and the curve won't be as harsh (again, like the current verbal)

By Xiggi (Xiggi) on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:43 am: Edit


Please consider that most elite schools require 3 SAT-II, including one in Math. It is obvious that the an analysis of the super-lenient curve of the Math-IIC would not support much of your argument.

By Benzinspeicher (Benzinspeicher) on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:57 am: Edit


I was talking about the SAT I math, which is added to one's combined SAT score. A few careless errors, and one's SAT score could be 100 points lower than what he/she could have done on that day. SAT II math are achievement tests, as they do not test reasoning ability and there are few elite tech schools that do not require SAT II math (such as Rensselaer and Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech) as students who apply to tech schools would be concerned about their math scores. And, I'll admit that I take the SATs seriously (I'm a bit of nerd when it comes to these things), and those people who are strong at verbal and want to know their verbal IQ in terms of percentile get their fair analysis. MAYBE the distinction gets a LITTLE bit blurred way up in the high 700s. Yet those of us stronger at math and score 650+, like myself, who want a fair assessment of their mathematical IQ in terms of percentile, do not get anything close to a fair assessment due to test design. This is the whole underlying point in my dissapointment with the SAT I math. I hope you consider my point.

By Cooldude (Cooldude) on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 02:20 am: Edit

for the MAY SAT I:
-> i got one wrong so 59 = 800

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