1600 + 3*800... How rare is this?





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By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:20 pm: Edit

I'm not usually one to toot my own horn... I swear. In fact, one of the biggest reasons I'm on CC is so that I have *someone* to talk about the admissions process with, because I don't do it too much with my friends for fear of coming off like a pompous arse.

Anyway, just got my *LAST* SAT score ever back today... an 800 in SAT II writing, which gives me what my title says (other SAT IIs are Math IIc and US Hist). I'm absolutely certain I'm nowhere near alone in the "3000 club" but I'm wondering how many people you guys think have these scores, and what effect it has on admissions (I'm not relying on just standardized tests to get me in, I do a bunch of other stuff too).

If I've offended anyone, or come off like a giant prick, I sincerely apologize.

By Arsalan (Arsalan) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:23 pm: Edit

I think you have offended me by making me look stupid in front of u!

By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:23 pm: Edit

Well, it would be the 4000 club. But I'm not in. I made my own club: the 3500+ club. I check in at 3610.

By Arsalan (Arsalan) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:24 pm: Edit

How on earth did you get all these perfect scores man? Im serious! Im in a well of depression right now trying to figure out what to do with my life. On the other hand, i have dreams of Columbia, NYU etc.

By Cellest882000 (Cellest882000) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:27 pm: Edit

hahahahahahahahahhahahha "3000 club"
800*5=4000...
GENIUS!!

ahhh ignore me I'm just jealous =PPP

By Paulhomework (Paulhomework) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:32 pm: Edit

Redbarn can i join the club?? i've got 3790

By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:38 pm: Edit

I'm smelling a vice president.

By Paulhomework (Paulhomework) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:41 pm: Edit

NICE. i'll use it as a leadership position for my college app!!!

By Sandmanpb (Sandmanpb) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:45 pm: Edit

Oooh! 3690! Let me be secretary!
Just kidding. Really, anyone over 3500 on their SAT 1 and 3 SAT 2's shows real dedication.

By Haithman (Haithman) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Ah its been awhile Just Forget Me..where you been?
Anyways, Its pretty rare for someone to own all those tests like that, Im sure people have done it here on CC, but we are not exactly "run-of-the-mill" I believe memememe did it (paul?). Anyways, nice job!

By Crazykidd (Crazykidd) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit

3930...close enuff im in =p

By Jastern05 (Jastern05) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:52 pm: Edit

what about me, i was close with a 3420?

By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

3850... *sigh*

By Gameguy56 (Gameguy56) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

3690, Looks like I'm gonna have to fight sandman for that secretary position

By Kewlkiwi102 (Kewlkiwi102) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:59 pm: Edit

Can I be a member?! Ive got 4000: Bio, Chem, Math IIC, SATI. But I still have to take writing, so I dont think it counts. Super duper congratulations to anyone in the 3500+ range.

Yeah Justforgetme, i agree with you. But here on CC if you brag it really doesnt matter cause there is always guarenteed to be someone who has beat you by 1000 miles.
I <3 CCers.
:)

By Nealious (Nealious) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit

1520 + 760 + 750 + 740 = don't have a calculator

bigger than 3500. I could just take every test available, get 200's by leaving them blank, and get an obnoxiously big number.

By Nealious (Nealious) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit

1520 + 760 + 750 + 740 = don't have a calculator

bigger than 3500. I could just take every test available, get 200's by leaving them blank, and get an obnoxiously big number.

By Sandmanpb (Sandmanpb) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

Let's have some fun, on this, the most dreary of days for some.
Gameguy56-
Tiebraker 1: SAT 1 scores
Tiebraker 2: SAT 2 MAth scores

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Oh yeah take this.......1320 SAT I + 800 Molecular Biology + 700 Math IIC! ha ha ha ha! i always get overrun. lol, ever heard the saying, "There's always a bigger fish"? Well, in the pond of CCers, I am the dang anchovy. lol

By Qwert271 (Qwert271) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:14 pm: Edit

3910 damn.

By Mahras (Mahras) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit

Haithman, how did you do on the SATs??? I cancelled my chem score so I am just basking in the glory of all of the other CC member scores!!!:)

By Encomium (Encomium) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:47 pm: Edit

3820

By Georgebushfan (Georgebushfan) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:53 pm: Edit

3950

By Neom3x11 (Neom3x11) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:58 pm: Edit

3920

By Freak (Freak) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 06:59 pm: Edit

Um... there are 3 ppl in my grade with 4000. but then my school was ranked top 10 in the nation and there are 900 ppl per class.

myself, i got a 1600 on my sat i, and 800s on sat ii writing, math 2c, biology, chemistry, and physics.

By Sandmanpb (Sandmanpb) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Aren't there only 500-600 per year with 1600s? So that means that 3 of them were in one high school? Wow.

By Mehere (Mehere) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:09 pm: Edit

6000
man i rule. i guess im the CEO

By Freak (Freak) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:10 pm: Edit

my high school is ranked pretty high up there. and plus, you have to consider that there are almost 1000 ppl per class

By Frenchfries (Frenchfries) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit

Congrats on the 4000! I have a collection of 3 800's now (I took the same three tests as you as well), but "only" a 1530 on the SAT I. Of course, this makes me wonder how rare it is to get three 800s. At least for a 1600, you figure about 600 people get one in any given year, but for SAT IIs I don't think there are any such statistics available. I'm sure it's fairly rare to get a 4000 though.

To answer your question, the 4000 should be very, erm, helpful when it comes to admissions. The reason I say this is because I remember seeing a chart on a Princeton website once that included SAT I & II scores of applicants along with percent admitted. I'll search for the chart after I post this, but if memory serves correctly, the rate at which 1600+800*3 scorers got in was very high. High as in, significantly above the normal admit rate, and even above 50%. You could chalk this up to people with such great standardized testing abilities naturally excelling in other areas (Science Olympiad, Intel, Great Grades & Rank, etc.). So maybe people don't get in just because of the perfect scores, but if you have those, chances are you've got other great things going for you as well.

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:21 pm: Edit

3880

By Freak (Freak) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:22 pm: Edit

3 800s are a lot more common in my school than 1600s. i even know one person with 7 800s on 7 sat 2s with a 1510 on the SAT. I didn't really study for the subject tests, my AP classes preped me for em. but the SAT i did have to self study. first time i took it (as a freshman) i got a 1540.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:31 pm: Edit

My friend got 3 800s today and has a 1530 SAT.

By Feuler (Feuler) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 07:46 pm: Edit

I've got a 3960 right now, but I think that will go up to as high as 3990 once I take some more SAT IIs in subjects I actually am good at (i.e. science).

By Briansee (Briansee) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:12 pm: Edit

3750. I feel inferior to you guys.
I need to retake sat 1s. only 1410 =(

By Jaug1 (Jaug1) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:23 pm: Edit

3710. 1440 SAT I. I really can't complain.

I'll take a position somewhere though, lol.

By Ilovemath (Ilovemath) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:45 pm: Edit

3990... 790 on the easiest SAT II, Math IIC

By Needhelp06 (Needhelp06) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit

1590 + 800 + 800 + 770 = 3960

lets make a 3960+ club and forget that 4000 club.

By Tlaktan (Tlaktan) on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 09:40 pm: Edit

3540. Barely made the cutoff.

By Welshie (Welshie) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 12:03 am: Edit

Me^4 has the 1600 and a LOT of 800s on SAT IIs.

By Zantedeschia (Zantedeschia) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 12:23 am: Edit

3980
Damn....so close.
SAT I: 800v 780m
Bio M, Writing, IIC: 800

By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 12:32 am: Edit

dang, i thought i was good....u guys shat on me again....i love that word: shat...whew....i have a 1580 (780 V); 800 writing; 790 iic; 760 us hist....u guys suck! im jealous lol

By Welshie (Welshie) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 01:11 am: Edit

Bah, I was bored. Me^4 has the 1600 + 800s in 6 different SAT II subjects for a grand total of 6400.

By Davidmayo (Davidmayo) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 01:33 am: Edit

A friend of mine has you all beat - 7200!!

SatI: 1600

SatII:

Writing: 800
U.S. History: 800
World History: 800
Math IIC: 800
Molecular Biology: 800
Chemistry: 800
Physics: 800

All this from a Lexington, KY public high school! Ha! Plus, he won $50000 and a Volkswagon from Teen Jeopardy. Take that, rich private schoolers! (Just kidding - I love rich private schoolers)

By Entropicgirl (Entropicgirl) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 01:33 am: Edit

1600 + 800 Physics + 800 Writing + 770 IIc = er, 3970?
(the difficulty with which I added that explains my subpar IIc score)

By Tallyrand (Tallyrand) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 08:00 am: Edit

To OP: It's pretty rare(don't be fooled by loads of people here having it), congrats!

But's it's not automatically going to get you into HYPS!(this is jealous!me, talking :))

700M + 800V + 800 + 800 + 770 = 3870

Meh. I'm probably going to retake the SAT I, if I can be arsed. Also still have to take the SAT II Math and Spanish. Hopefully I'll 800 one of those (yes I am using that oh-so-magical number as a verb, lol...).

I'm confident in the fact that I have a respectable chance for any top school, though it's a little sad, but not surprising, to come here and find I'm not a standout in the applicant pool. That's what's going to happen if I end up going to a good school anyway, though, so... *shrugs*.

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 08:48 am: Edit

Ahhh! I realized my wonderfully brilliant adding error 5 minutes after I posted... but I'm at Boys' State right now, so I couldn't get to a computer. Now it's too late to edit, and my idiocy will live on forever :-).

Anyway, a few replys.

Haithman-Towards the end of the school year (after APs), I stopped having work, doing work, and caring about anything academic. I think that's the cause of my CC neglection.

Kewlkiwi + Nelious-I'd personally definte the formula for admission to the "3000" (err, 4000) club as best SAT I score (one sitting) + three best SAT II scores. I, of course, have no say in the matter... not like it means anything anyway.

Frenchie, ilovemath, feuler, zast, dosty, entro, tally, crazykid, qwert, and well, all of you guys... We all know that there's very little difference between a 1600 and a 1550... and I'm sure there's even less of a difference between a 3900 and a 4000 (other than nerd bragging rights). So congrats on killer scores.

Freak-what high school do you go to? I'm sure TJ in Virginia has a ton of 1600 kids, maybe even more than your school.

And I most definitely appreciate the way CC gives you perspective (the whole "there's always a bigger fish" thing). Memememe + EC (actually all the rickoids, and those evil math kids like Feuler who own the AMC/AIME) really show you that there's always someone smarter (now the question is, who's smarter than them?).

By Bellevueteen (Bellevueteen) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 02:57 pm: Edit

SAT's probably the hardest part. A lot of people get 800s on Chinese SAT2 and Math2c.

By Themabrklyn (Themabrklyn) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit

3630

1450 SAT
670 US History
720 Literature
780 Writing

By Peck116 (Peck116) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 10:52 pm: Edit

3350

Ill get the coffee...

By Irock1ce (Irock1ce) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:17 pm: Edit

3800....
1480 sat
800 mathiic
790 bio
730 chem

By Justice (Justice) on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:17 pm: Edit

3990. Or 4790/4800 if you want to do count 4 sat iis. Dude 4000 is sick. You'd have to be one of the top300 students in the country easily in terms of standardized tests.

By Twinkletoes696 (Twinkletoes696) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:18 pm: Edit

3490...I'll make your breakfast.

Then slowly undermine you and take over the presidency MWHAHAHA.

(Just kidding... I had forgotten what my standardized testing scores were up until this point when I accidentally clicked on this thread)

By Monoe (Monoe) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:45 pm: Edit

3850. It's definitely silly to lump these four scores together - SAT I's carry more (or at the least different) weight than SAT II's. The test mean different things.

By Tsunashima1 (Tsunashima1) on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:12 pm: Edit

Just_Forget_Me, I'm in the 4000 club too! I took Math IIC, Writing, and Chem for the SAT II's.

By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

hmm my friend has 5 800s (non are languages either)...plus he has a 1580....thats 3980!!....and i was happy with my 3930 lol....yea, i like justforgetme's post....you CANT have a big ego on this site, cuz probably the poster on the thread below you can probably tear you a new one....thats always good for deflating egos

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 05:59 pm: Edit

Monoe-I'm not suggesting that colleges look at a "combined" score, as opposed to scores for individual tests. I was more interested in how many people have "aced" the SATs.

Tsunashima-Have we talked on AIM? I get the feeling you're on my buddy list.

I'm really really impressed by how many people have incredible scores. You guys will keep me working first semester senior year (second semester... not even an act of god will get me to work).

By Crazykidd (Crazykidd) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 07:50 pm: Edit

3930..=( very inferior compared to some of u

800 Math 740 Verbal

800 Math IIC
800 Molecular Biology
790 Writing

By Marymary (Marymary) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 08:03 pm: Edit

you people are insane... seriously, do you all study like crazy for these tests or are you just friggin geniuses?

This site makes me feel like crap.

By Ilovefood (Ilovefood) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 08:24 pm: Edit

Um...1440 no SAT IIs over here in Illinois, where we don't need that crap to get into college!

By Sfahad (Sfahad) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit

hey marymary, i feel like crap too when i look at these scores, I had only 1230 but it was only my 2nd yr in US, so i don't feel bad and now i m in college, i break the curves for almost every class, beat almost all of them who have above 1500 and they come upto me for help. So don't be depressed. it's all good, i will be at some ivy league hopefully after i transfer, after next yr. anyways Good job guys who get that high scores. U guys must be really smart. Good luck to all of u in ur future endeavors

By Paulhomework (Paulhomework) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 08:44 pm: Edit

anyone with 3900+ is a super genious. That means you have an average of 780!!!! that's very, very, very rare.

(ok maybe not on CC, but i bet it's less than 0.1% of the population.

By Tsunashima1 (Tsunashima1) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 11:13 pm: Edit

Yes sir, I am on your honorable buddy list, bloodykansas!

By Dostoyevsky (Dostoyevsky) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 01:30 am: Edit

marymary---i must admit, i studied for SAT verbal and i studied for SAT II writing (essay portion - to understand what the graders wanted to see)....the rest was ez stuff....paulhomework - i dont consider myself a "super genius" lol, but i do think that ppl with such high scores either demonstrate hard work ethics or mucho talent (or a mixture of both)....congrats to everyone for such incredible scores btw

By Crazylicious (Crazylicious) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 01:41 am: Edit

haha i have the record for the lowest indicated score so far!!! i'll make food for everybody
3140!!!!

geez i must be very dumb =P

By Bigman82085 (Bigman82085) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 01:55 am: Edit

I feel important

1500+800+800+680= 3780

I ain't no english scholar (680 writing, 700 verbal)

By Bacchanalian (Bacchanalian) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

aha 3890... sooo close to "super genius," eh paulhomework?

By Seahorsekid (Seahorsekid) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit

3580... just barely in the 3500+ club, but i'll make myself at home! Planning to retake the SAT Is in October.. although it may not be of service seeing as how the EA deadline is November 1... but you never know!

By Scm007 (Scm007) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit

1540 + 790 + 800 + 800 = 3930

By Wunderkind__Not (Wunderkind__Not) on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:10 pm: Edit

woot, finally i am in a club (soon-to-be-junior)!

All taken only once:

1600 SAT I
35 ACT
800 German
800 Writing (even though it won't count for me - c.o. 2006)
790 Chem (don't know how this happened)
780 US History ("")
800 Math IIC
800 Math IC (i found IC harder, oh well)
may be majoring in Math/Engineerng if you were wondering about the 2 math tests

Lots of talent, with a little bit of effort thrown in there, j/k

By Rippledance (Rippledance) on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:46 am: Edit

4000 club; but one of my 800s is Chinese, so I suppose that can't count... anyway I've only taken 3 SAT IIs + SAT I so far. Other SAT IIs are Bio M and Lit. Sophomore.

By Fcovich (Fcovich) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 02:47 am: Edit

Does anyone know of any blind student who got 800 on satII us history?

thanks

fcovich@earthlink.net

By Justice (Justice) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 06:03 pm: Edit

Wunderkind--I'm just curious. Why did you take the ACT after the SAT (or vice versa)when your scores were very high?

By Skiowad (Skiowad) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit

1370 on SAT I. I hope to get 3 800's in Oct, so i can join. Wish me luck

By Nealious (Nealious) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 02:45 am: Edit

i bet 95% of the people here will apply to harvard, yale, and princeton, and i bet a lot of them will get accepted too.

I suppose I'm in good company on this website.

By Conker (Conker) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:31 am: Edit

"i bet 95% of the people here will apply to harvard, yale, and princeton, and i bet a lot of them will get accepted too."

The first part, yes. But then 90% of the users on this forum are then rejected from HYP.

By Evil_Robot (Evil_Robot) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 04:43 pm: Edit

1600, 800 writing, 800 math2c, 800 physics

Yay, club :)

P.S. No guarantees in college admissions! Of the 3 1600s my year, 1 (me) was admitted to 1 of the HYPS, and of the 7 1600s last year, I think 3 or 4 were admitted to HYPS.

By Firebird12637 (Firebird12637) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

800m 780v
800Ic, 800IIc, 800 writing, 800 bio m

By Nealious (Nealious) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 01:14 am: Edit

i meant this thread, not the forum. The scores on this thread are definetely the best in the country, or atleast some of them. And assuming they are dedicated to other things as they are to standardized testing, they should get into the top schools...atleast i would hope so.

By H0peful (H0peful) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 12:09 am: Edit

I am also a member of the highly prestigious 4000 club. Congrats! ;P

By Aspirer42 (Aspirer42) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 12:56 am: Edit

*clutches his 3890 and strokes it protectively*

By Esperanza (Esperanza) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 02:13 am: Edit

hey i'm from canada and was wondering what the difference between AP and SAT IIs are. i'm going to be taking APs next year, but if i want to take a shot at getting into a US school, will i be needing to take 3 SAT IIs like the other kids?

By Somecanadianguy (Somecanadianguy) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 02:22 am: Edit

Yup.

By Esperanza (Esperanza) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 02:24 am: Edit

are the SAT IIs the same material as the AP tests? this is confusing.

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Esperanza-

AP tests and SAT IIs are both offered by the College Board. For information, go to http://www.collegeboard.com .

AP tests are usually taken after a year long AP class. Sometimes kids "self-study" for the test and learn the material on their own (often using a textbook and a prep book by a company like the princeton review). An AP class is "college level" and a high score on an AP test often will give you college credit (you can look at individual college websites to see their policy on AP credit). Taking AP classes (if your school offers them) looks good for colleges. From what I've heard, your actual scores on the AP tests aren't a huge admissions factor (not nearly as big as SATs, GPA, etc).

SAT IIs are required by many of the most competitive schools in addition to the SAT I. Some schools allow you to submit an ACT score in lieu of SAT IIs. Some schools require certain SAT II tests (the most common is 3 tests, Writing, Math (Ic or IIc) and one of your choice). SAT IIs are subject tests. They're based more on what you would learn in a class than the "intelligence" the SAT tests.

By Esperanza (Esperanza) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit

thanks a lot :)
but are the SAT IIs testing the same/similar material as the APs? for example, an SAT II in biology would almost be the same as the exam on AP biology..?

By Jrc007 (Jrc007) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 02:48 pm: Edit

3830! lol

By Pinacolada (Pinacolada) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 08:26 pm: Edit

4000! hooray.
mmm does anyone know if a 1600 in one sitting is considered more special than those "combined highest" perfect scores? And do both types qualify for presidential scholars?

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 02:47 am: Edit

Pinacolada-You need a 1600(ish) in 1 sitting for Prez Scholar. I'm not sure how much colleges care about multiple sittings. I'm sure a 1600 in one sitting is better than, say, a 1600 combined from 2 out of 7 sittings.

Esperanza-From my own experiences (AP US history) and from what I've heard, AP classes usually match up well to SAT IIs. You might want to check with CCers about specific tests.

By Sots (Sots) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:10 am: Edit

Thats it!! Im starting a "2" club!!! A place for those of us who didnt even write our names in the beginning... ;) Anyone 1400 or under is welcome.

By Sots (Sots) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:12 am: Edit

The SAT 2s are less minute-detail oriented than the AP tests, so they are easier. They aren't as easy as NY's regents or any other state tests, of course, but they arent that hard either.

By Sots (Sots) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:14 am: Edit

(i should mention tho that they ARE hard if u havent taken the right courses... like... take AP bio then take the AP test THEN take the SAT2 and the 2 will seem easy. But take the 2 after regular bio (like i did hehe) and it will b pretty confusing cuz u wont have studied lots of the material on it.

By Julians (Julians) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 12:05 pm: Edit

meh, I suppose I'm in the 4000 club

Writing Literature US Hist

By Julians (Julians) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 12:05 pm: Edit

meh, I suppose I'm in the 4000 club

Writing, Literature, US Hist

By Julians (Julians) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 12:06 pm: Edit

oops


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