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Discus: SAT/ACT Tests and Test Preparation: June 2004 Archive: Curves
By Insanity (Insanity) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 05:57 pm: Edit

What do you all think the curves will be for the SAT 1 and various SAT 2s?

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:10 pm: Edit

no one knows except ETS but if you want guesses:

Math: 800 800 760 740 720 700
Verbal: 800 800 800 780 740 720

By Insanity (Insanity) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Anybody else?

By Crypticism (Crypticism) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:59 pm: Edit


I'd like to hear about potential SAT II curves. (esp writing and literature, as those are the ones that I took)

By Kousuke (Kousuke) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 01:05 am: Edit

i think that verbal curve you gave is a bit harsh. you could probably miss 9 and still get 700.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 11:13 am: Edit

Yeah, there isnt a 40 point drop with -1 raw.

By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 06:24 pm: Edit

verbal- 800 800 800 790 770 750

math - 800 800 790 770 750

By Sagar_Indurkhya (Sagar_Indurkhya) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 09:26 am: Edit

Wait... so they curve it down. I think i missed like 5 or so on math. I omitted 2, missed 1 grid in, and 1 quantitative comparison. What should i get?

By 007 (007) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 10:23 am: Edit

May 1st Curve:
MAth : 800 800 780 750 730 710
Verbal: 800 800 800 790 770

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:58 am: Edit

You guys, I only missed 6 raw on the March SAT and they gave me a 690 Math. Sucks eh?

By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

Question: does ETS (for scoring) break down what you missed by category (such as CR, Analogies, etc) for verbal (and perhaps math as well) and then find those raw scores individually and then add them up to find your total raw score? I always thought it was adding up all you missed and doing that whole calculation from there instead of breakign it down. However, I looked on my last year's score report, and they had individual section raw scores (CR, analogies, sentence completion), so I was wondering if they broke it down like that and then added up the individual raw scores to get your total. If this is true, then we could miss a couple on each section and still get the same result as if we had ommitted those. Correct?

By Athlonmj (Athlonmj) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

I missed 2 on May 2003 SAT and got a 740.

By Winkalink (Winkalink) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit

yeah, I missed one QC and omitted one (in math) and got a 750. It's a sad, sad tale.

Oh well, that's why we have retakes. :)

By Zenacolleen16 (Zenacolleen16) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit

I missed 4 math on January 2004 SAT and got a 740, I know someone who missed 5 and got a 710.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 03:24 pm: Edit

I really think that they should make it 800,790,780,770,760 and so on by each raw score. Becuase it's terrible how the raw scores can translate to different real scores so differently. I've met people that, on one SAT (i cant remember which), they omitted 2 and got an 800? and now i hear of someone missing 2 and getting a 740. this is definitely not cool

By Shizpit (Shizpit) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 12:35 am: Edit

will collegeboard release the curves after scores come out?

By Mazzinator333 (Mazzinator333) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:53 am: Edit

The reason that they don't automatically deduct 10 points for every missed answer is due to equating. First off, if you deducted 10 points per incorrect answer, if you missed 20 questions, you would be down to a 600, and if you missed 30, down to a 500, and missing/leaving blank 30 questions is still above the national average on the test.

But in terms of equating, some forms of the test, and some sections on the test, change their levels of difficulty from one administration to the next. So, ETS curves the test in a way to reflect this. For example, if I took the May SAT, they want to make sure my Verbal and Math scores on the May test would be the same scores I would receive on the June test. This is why the curves always vary a bit and are not set down to a dot. BUT, the SAT is NOT like AP exams where the curve is set by how students do. APs are set so that scores of 1-5 are achieved, but on the SATs, no one, hypothetically, could score an 800 if they didn't do well enough..

Shizpit, the only time ETS releases its curves is when it releases the test. It often does release the May exam, but usually NOT the June exam.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

cool, thanks mazzinator!!

By Foreignboy (Foreignboy) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 01:49 pm: Edit

Mmmm, curves... Huh what? Oh, you mean SAT grading curves.
Er um.. Oh hey, I think I see someone I know! Bye... (runs away)

By Madd87 (Madd87) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit

007 thats wrong because i took the may 1st sat and made 760 on math.

By Elizabeth22 (Elizabeth22) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit

In May I missed 6 verbal and got a 750, if that helps- 6 math wrong was a 700.

By Tallyrand (Tallyrand) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit

So the curve was real harsh in May this year? That's good to know. I thought I did super well that time around, I skipped a question and knew that I got at least two wrong. I got a 700 and thought "Whoa, must have gotten way more wrong than I thought." Guess I just must have gotten about five wrong, one omit. Makes me feel better.

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