JUNE 5TH SAT I CONFIRMED ANSWERS (LOOK HERE FIRST!)

Discus: SAT/ACT Tests and Test Preparation: June 2004 Archive: JUNE 5TH SAT I CONFIRMED ANSWERS (LOOK HERE FIRST!)
 By Mlin (Mlin) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

UNOFFICIAL JUNE 5 SAT I QUESTION/ANSWER LISTING

CONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 73/138
UNCONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 65/138

NOTE: Section and question numbers may differ between versions.

MATH SECTIONS (19/60 CONFIRMED)

GENERAL PROBLEMS (9/50 CONFIRMED)
1.1) Represent 66 in dots - Answer: 5.5 dots (C)
1.2) Given right triangle w/angle 50º, find smallest angle - Answer: 40º (C)
1.8) If 6/7k = 6, find 1/k - Answer: 1/7
1.12) If s represents SUM(1-1000)... - Answer: t-s
3.1) MEAN(8,12,x) < MEAN (x,8) - Answer: (B)
3.2) 2 parallel lines - Answer: xº = yº (C)
3.6) u>v; w>0 - Answer: (D)
3.?) Circumference of circle with inscribed triangle < 10pi - Answer: (B)
6.10) a+b = x Answer: x-1 (A)

GRID-INS (10/10 CONFIRMED)
3.16) 10x + 0t + ... Answer: 5.4
3.17) xº, 3xº, 8xº; find largest angle - Answer: 120
3.18) Find x+y in grid - Answer: 15
3.21) 6 cards, find prob. > 2/3 - Answer: 2.8 < x < 4 (e.g. 3)
3.22) Smallest square number div. by 10 - Answer: 100
3.23) T-shirt packing - Answer: 160
3.24) Vol. of a slice of cube - Answer: 1/8 or .125
3.25) Avg company daily income - Answer: 1350

VERBAL SECTIONS (54/78 LISTED; 46/78 CONFIRMED)

SENTENCE COMPLETIONS (13/19 LISTED; 11/19 CONFIRMED)
2.1) 1890s doctor - Answer: antiseptic...sterile (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.2) CA vanguard of movements - Answer: originated (B)
2.9) stage fright - Answer: bane
4.5) National Park Service - Answer: impeded...preserve
4.6) prehistoric fossils - Answer: bolster...disprove
4.7) prodigy girl - Answer: sham
4.8) theaters/Harlem renaissance - Answer: energized (***UNCONFIRMED***)
4.10) girl a source of exasperation - Answer: synonym for stubborn (B)

ANALOGIES (10/19 LISTED; 8/10 CONFIRMED)
2.11) QUARK:MINERAL :: SILK:FABRIC (Subcategory)
4.11) ARM:ELBOW :: LEG:KNEE (Endpoints)
4.14) BUS:VEHICLE :: LINER:SHIP (Subcategory)
4.15) SAFEGUARD:PROTECT :: (Synonyms)
4.21) MELLIFLUOUS:VOICE :: DELICIOUS:FOOD
4.22) VIGNETTE:BREVITY :: (Characteristic)
4.??) OMEN:PRESAGE :: SATIRE:DERIDE (Synonyms)

2.16-21) JAPANESE POETRY (4/6 CONFIRMED)
2.16) Beginning passage purpose - Answer: to show disappointment
2.20) Purpose of season metaphors - Answer: enumerate symbols
2.21) umbrella/glass chamber - Answer: to show incoherence

2.22-30) WESTERN SPIRIT (5/9 LISTED; 3/9 CONFIRMED)
2.22) Purpose of Lines 3-7 - Answer: initially perplexed (B) (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.26) Britain "Workshop of the World" - Answer: to show US economic success
2.27) Consequences of industrialization - Answer: Lost individualism
2.29) Compare two passages - Answer: Passage 2 explained historical circumstances (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.30) Both passages have in common - Answer: cowboys had bitter relations with employers (D)

4.24-25) NATIVE AMERICAN LICHEN USAGE (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.24) Purpose of passage - Answer: To show uses of lichen (C)
4.25) Wolf lichen - Answer: Contained colored dye

4.26-27) WRITING FICTION (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.26) Purpose - Answer: Finding meaning in life while writing fiction.
4.27) Lines 6-8 - Answer: Some connections aren't obvious at first

4.28-29) DIETARY TREND (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.28) Purpose - Answer: To summariZe new dietary trend
4.29) 2 books - Answer: Diff. dietry trends from diff. time periods

4.30-35) LEONARDO DA VINCI (5/6 LISTED; 4/6 CONFIRMED)
4.30) Purpose - Answer: Show Da Vinci's originality
4.31) misinterpretations - Answer: influences from ancients
4.32) stepsons - Answer: contemporaries believed in ancient and modern sciences (***UNCONFIRMED***)
4.34) Last paragraph implication - Answer: Scientific method earlier than known

7.1-13) IMMIGRANT SOCIETY (11/13 LISTED; 10/13 CONFIRMED)
7.2) Immigrants using plain furniture - Answer: Outside reflects inwardly
7.3) Discovery - Answer: realized copy of something cheaper
7.6) doctor/pharmacist - Answer: couldn't dream of going to professional jobs
7.9) literally - Answer: metaphor coincides with realism
7.10) Answer: Illustrated gulf between author and that of the doctor's son (D)
7.11) Answer: Parents were rationalizing situation
7.12) whiff - Answer: brevity of impression
7.13) overall tone - Answer: thoughtful

Hopefully, this will cut down on repeated questions in the main topic. If you notice anything missing (particularly in the list of verbal questions) or incorrect, please contribute!

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:18 pm: Edit

Parents' comments about the rug I thought it was that less fancy things had their uses for practicality.

misinterpretations: I thought that errors or somethign to do with errors were hard to avoid, because the passage stated that even Da Vinci had problems with misinterpretations.

And the Writing Fiction part: I don't remember clearly, but i did not read anything about Fiction in the entire passage, thats why i avoided choose that answer.

Purpose of season metaphors:enumerate symbols? Was that the choice which showed that the symbols were known by most people in Japan?

By the way, in the short passages, were there blurbs?

 By Godilali (Godilali) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:28 pm: Edit

yeah, the parents comments was practicality

 By Cherrybarry (Cherrybarry) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:32 pm: Edit

Parent's comments: I put down that the linoleum had practical uses (could be cleaned easily).

Misinterpretations: I put down that errors were hard to avoid, since even Da Vinci, who was "ahead of his time" could not escape from them.

Writing Fiction: I remember the passage being about writing fiction.

Season metaphors: I think the answer was "enumerate symbols known by most people in Japan.

 By Cherrybarry (Cherrybarry) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:35 pm: Edit

For the #1 on the Japanese poetry CR, was it "to describe that project that led to disappointment"?

 By Godilali (Godilali) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 08:50 pm: Edit

yes it was cherrybarry

 By Dannyferizzle (Dannyferizzle) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 09:26 pm: Edit

Answer to 1.8 was 7 -- if 6/7k = 6 then k = 1/7 therefore 1/k = 7.

Also-- The answer to the one about what were the effects of the ecomomic success, the answer was a greater disolactoin between the employer and the worker which was said directly after the line reference.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 09:38 pm: Edit

What do you mean by confirmed? Confirmed with the board?

4.24) Purpose of passage - Answer: To show uses of lichen (C)

Is that even a question? The question i remember is 'in the passage, lychen are described primarily in terms of.." and the answer was 'practical uses'. Are we talking about the same thing?

4.31) misinterpretations - Answer: influences from ancients

We came to the conclusion that it was commonly held beliefs. Is this the same answer?

And very good job mlin.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:00 pm: Edit

Can someone give the answer choices for 3.1 and 3.?, thanks. Also, can we discuss the sentence completion 2.1 again? I put premature ... rigid.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:03 pm: Edit

And the missing question in the DaVinci passage is: "What is NOT shown by the example of davinci saying 'the earth does not move' in his journal?" I think the answer was 'he collaborates with other scientists'

And an analogy that is missing is flummox:confused::bewitched:spellbound, i think.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:07 pm: Edit

i agree with the answer given in 2.1 by mlin.

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:16 pm: Edit

I want my scores!

 By Insanity (Insanity) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:17 pm: Edit

ME TOO!

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:20 pm: Edit

What is the answer to 4.22? For the doctors one, I thought it was premature and rigid, because he tried "new" techniques too early so the docotrs kept everything rigid. No one agrees?

 By 1212 (1212) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:27 pm: Edit

what does it mean when its "confirmed"?

 By Toomuch2say87 (Toomuch2say87) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:30 pm: Edit

OMEN:PRESAGE :: SATIRE:DERIDE (Synonyms) is wrong ...presage means to predetermine ... not omen haha

also for Quant Comp fill ins, why can't that one wiht probability be 2.8 It said GREATER THAN X...if its 2.8, greater than x still doesn't include 2.8...

 By Nexusgeo (Nexusgeo) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:33 pm: Edit

Toomuch, look up dictionary before you say that.

Presage:
1. To indicate or warn of in advance; portend.
2. To have a presentiment of.
3. To foretell or predict.

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:33 pm: Edit

CR cannot be confirmed, only agreed upon.

The math and SC and analogies can because its straight vocabulary and there is no ambiguity with vocabulary.

I still think the misinterpretations was "that errors were hard to avoid" no matter how "confirmed" and how much of a consenus this board has reached.

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:37 pm: Edit

This may sound stupid, but I dont remember whether or not the short paragraph CR section had analogies, and if it didn't, were there 78 questions for Verbal?

 By Qutiee (Qutiee) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:40 pm: Edit

 By 1212 (1212) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:42 pm: Edit

rofl it did mi estudiante cansado, 78 questions the usual

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:43 pm: Edit

hehe "my tired student"

So how did they make up for the rest of the missing analogies?

 By 1212 (1212) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:45 pm: Edit

4.10) girl a source of exasperation - Answer: synonym for stubborn (B)

i dont remember that question, can some one refresh my memory

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:50 pm: Edit

(Billiam2) : I also remember a question about how lichens are described rather than the purpose of hte passage. I also put: practical uses. I also agree with the Da Vinci one about what the quote did not show: it didn't show that he shared discoveries with other scientists.

Were there only 30 questions for the first verbal section? I'm freaking out...I hope I didn't miss any at the end!!

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:51 pm: Edit

recalcitrant was answer. It was a sentence completion... dont remember much else about it.

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:51 pm: Edit

Did anyone have the analogy "Toga: Garb"? If not, I'm hoping that section was experimental.
Also, anyone had a short passage about mercury and food supply contamination?

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:53 pm: Edit

Yes, it was recalcitrant. Also, I think the CR for the immigrants was that "practicality can be advantageous."

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:55 pm: Edit

Is it just me or does everyone else try to encourage themself to believe that these so-called confirmed answers maybe wrong when it contradicts your answer?

Hehe. I did not make good choices in verbal

Oh yea, how can a critical reading answer be truly confirmed? Unless people who have gotten 800 on verbal consistently can approve of the answer?

 By Nexusgeo (Nexusgeo) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:55 pm: Edit

Does anyone know what -2 in non-experimental Math will get me in THIS test. Just your guesses will
be appreciated, thanks.

 By 1212 (1212) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:01 pm: Edit

ok i got that right thanks all, yea practically can be advantageous is what i had too, i might be the first Asian-Indian to get a higher SAT verbal score than math.
Did anyone have the analogy "Toga: Garb"? - must be experimental

as for missing analogies, i think there was 19 like always, this thread lists 10 of them, my memory is starting to dissipate so im not sure which ones are missing.
but on 4.11) ARM:ELBOW :: LEG:KNEE (Endpoints) , are we sure that was the order i think it might have been ELBOW:ARM or KNEE:LEG, it just seemed to me at the time, they didnt match, i think i put knuckles:fingers or something. Oh well i can afford to miss that question i guess

 By Crazylicious (Crazylicious) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:34 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember the last question in first math section (I think...) It had a triangle, divided into 2 triangles... and it wanted to know what the length of the base was. It gave something like 8radical3 and I know the left side triangle's base was 24 and it was just a matter of finding the length of the base of the right side triangle... does anybody remember what I am talking about?

(I know it is not an experimental question b/c my experimental was verbal)

 By 1212 (1212) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:37 pm: Edit

32

 By Crazylicious (Crazylicious) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:46 pm: Edit

1212 > Thank you... Whew... I was totally frustrated on that question and had narrowed it down to 32 (E) and something else... I bubbled in E at the last second.

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:50 pm: Edit

Revised.

UNOFFICIAL JUNE 5 SAT I QUESTION/ANSWER LISTING

CONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 75/138
CONFIRMED = Agreed upon by at least 5 different people (consisting of 80% of respondents), or checked with calculator/dictionary
UNCONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 67/138

NOTE: Section and question numbers may differ between versions.

MATH SECTIONS (20/60 CONFIRMED)

GENERAL PROBLEMS (9/50 CONFIRMED)
1.1) Represent 66 in dots - Answer: 5.5 dots (C)
1.2) Given right triangle w/angle 50º, find smallest angle - Answer: 40º (C)
1.8) If 6/7k = 6, find 1/k - Answer: 1/7
1.12) If s represents SUM(1-1000)... - Answer: t-s
1.25) Divided triangle - Answer: 32 (E)
3.1) MEAN(8,12,x) < MEAN (x,8) - Answer: (B)
3.2) 2 parallel lines - Answer: xº = yº (C)
3.6) u>v; w>0 - Answer: (D)
3.?) Circumference of circle with inscribed triangle < 10pi - Answer: (B)
6.10) a+b = x Answer: x-1 (A)

GRID-INS (10/10 CONFIRMED)
3.16) 10x + 0t + ... Answer: 5.4
3.17) xº, 3xº, 8xº; find largest angle - Answer: 120
3.18) Find x+y in grid - Answer: 15
3.21) 6 cards, find prob. > 2/3 - Answer: 2.8 < x < 4 (e.g. 3)
3.22) Smallest square number div. by 10 - Answer: 100
3.23) T-shirt packing - Answer: 160
3.24) Vol. of a slice of cube - Answer: 1/8 or .125
3.25) Avg company daily income - Answer: 1350

VERBAL SECTIONS (54/78 LISTED; 46/78 CONFIRMED)

SENTENCE COMPLETIONS (13/19 LISTED; 11/19 CONFIRMED)
2.1) 1890s doctor - Answer: antiseptic...sterile (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.2) CA vanguard of movements - Answer: originated (B)
2.9) stage fright - Answer: bane
4.5) National Park Service - Answer: impeded...preserve
4.6) prehistoric fossils - Answer: bolster...disprove
4.7) prodigy girl - Answer: sham
4.8) theaters/Harlem renaissance - Answer: energized (***UNCONFIRMED***)
4.10) girl a source of exasperation - Answer: synonym for stubborn (B)

ANALOGIES (11/19 LISTED; 9/10 CONFIRMED)
2.11) QUARK:MINERAL :: SILK:FABRIC (Subcategory)
4.11) ARM:ELBOW :: LEG:KNEE (Endpoints)
4.14) BUS:VEHICLE :: LINER:SHIP (Subcategory)
4.15) SAFEGUARD:PROTECT :: (Synonyms)
4.19) FLUMMOX:CONFUSED :: BEWITCHED:SPELLBOUND (A)
4.21) MELLIFLUOUS:VOICE :: DELICIOUS:FOOD (B)
4.22) VIGNETTE:BREVITY :: (Characteristic)
4.??) OMEN:PRESAGE :: SATIRE:DERIDE (Synonyms)

2.16-21) JAPANESE POETRY (4/6 CONFIRMED)
2.16) Beginning passage purpose - Answer: to show disappointment
2.20) Purpose of season metaphors - Answer: enumerate symbols
2.21) umbrella/glass chamber - Answer: to show incoherence

2.22-30) WESTERN SPIRIT (5/9 LISTED; 3/9 CONFIRMED)
2.22) Purpose of Lines 3-7 - Answer: initially perplexed (B) (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.26) Britain "Workshop of the World" - Answer: to show US economic success
2.27) Consequences of industrialization - Answer: Lost individualism
2.29) Compare two passages - Answer: Passage 2 explained historical circumstances (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.30) Both passages have in common - Answer: cowboys had bitter relations with employers (D)

4.24-25) NATIVE AMERICAN LICHEN USAGE (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.24) Purpose of passage - Answer: To show uses of lichen (C)
4.25) Wolf lichen - Answer: Contained colored dye

4.26-27) WRITING FICTION (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.26) Purpose - Answer: Finding meaning in life while writing fiction.
4.27) Lines 6-8 - Answer: Some connections aren't obvious at first

4.28-29) DIETARY TREND (2/2 CONFIRMED)
4.28) Purpose - Answer: To summariZe new dietary trend
4.29) 2 books - Answer: Diff. dietry trends from diff. time periods

4.30-35) LEONARDO DA VINCI (5/6 LISTED; 4/6 CONFIRMED)
4.30) Purpose - Answer: Show Da Vinci's originality
4.31) misinterpretations - Answer: commonly held beliefs
4.32) stepsons - Answer: contemporaries believed in ancient and modern sciences (***UNCONFIRMED***)
4.34) Last paragraph implication - Answer: Scientific method earlier than known

7.1-13) IMMIGRANT SOCIETY (11/13 LISTED; 10/13 CONFIRMED)
7.2) Immigrants using plain furniture - Answer: Outside reflects inwardly
7.3) Discovery - Answer: realized copy of something cheaper
7.6) doctor/pharmacist - Answer: couldn't dream of going to professional jobs
7.9) literally - Answer: metaphor coincides with realism
7.10) Answer: Illustrated gulf between author and that of the doctor's son (D)
7.11) Answer: Parents were rationalizing situation
7.12) whiff - Answer: brevity of impression
7.13) overall tone - Answer: thoughtful

RESPONSES TO POSTS

Billiam2: Thanks a bunch.

Qutie: I collected them from the main topic as well as various SAT-related chats. It's amazing how much we've done no more than 36 hours after the test.

Zbjz15: I got the same answer as well. I've been getting split responses on this one (either A or B), so that's why it's unconfirmed.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:52 pm: Edit

delacroix: usually the 1st passage has 30, it's the 2nd one that usually has 35 .

 By Speeddemon608 (Speeddemon608) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:10 am: Edit

can anyone explain the external trappings reflect intreanl to me? i couldve sworn that it was that simple furniture would help conformity and reduce individuality, it was the whole tone of the "middle-house" workers

 By Soulstar (Soulstar) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:16 am: Edit

for math problem 3.2, did they actually state that the lines were parallel? because i dont think they did and if they didnt its D.

 By Pezza0 (Pezza0) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:47 am: Edit

wow - i need to find out my score NOW!!! Whens the date for scores?

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:23 am: Edit

they did state they were parallel...

 By Altf4 (Altf4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:26 am: Edit

june 18th online, yea i can't wait to see my 200 on the bio

 By Mutineer_33 (Mutineer_33) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:03 am: Edit

Wow, I dont remember the FLUMMOX:CONFUSED analogy at all. What were all of the answer choices?

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:30 am: Edit

Can someone with a good memory right out the sentence completion for the 1890 doctors? I want to try to figure that one out again.
We need to settles some more math questions. Heres number 24 on the MCs, I think it is real. -11< x-y <13

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 10:12 am: Edit

Hey, for the second to last question on the immigrant passage, wasn't it about why the parents believed what they got through hard work was excellent and anything more was luxury? Isn't the answer to that one somethign like "they were matching their goals and wants to their reality? Or am I getting this mixed up.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 10:48 am: Edit

 By Dannyferizzle (Dannyferizzle) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:06 pm: Edit

YOU HAVE TO REVISE IT AGAIN, THE ANSWER TO FIND 1/k WAS DEFINITELY 7 NOT 1/7--LOOK AT YOUR OWN PROBLEM IT WAS 6/7k=6 therefore k=1/7, so 1/k must equal 7!!!

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:23 pm: Edit

If I remember correctly, it was (6/7)k=6 so 1/k=1/7. I'm pretty sure all answers to that one were fractions anyway.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:26 pm: Edit

no, it is 7. I dont think thats the right question.

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

Do you remember if both 1/7 and 7 were an answer to that one? I might just be confused.

 By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:22 pm: Edit

Now that he mentions it, 7 IS correct, not 1/7.

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit

Update 3. Please try to resolve the eight unconfirmed/disputed questions first.

Yes, we do need more coverage of the math sections. Unfortunately, they don't stand out in my memory well, but if you remember any I'd be glad to answer it.

UNOFFICIAL JUNE 5 SAT I QUESTION/ANSWER LISTING
NOTE: Section and question numbers may differ between versions.

LISTED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 77/138
CONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 69
CONFIRMED = Agreed upon by at least 5 different people (consisting of 80% of respondents), or checked with calculator/dictionary
UNCONFIRMED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 2
DISPUTED NON-EXPERIMENTAL QUESTIONS: 6

*** CURRENTLY DISPUTED ***
M 1.8) If 6/7k = 6, find 1/k - Possibilities: 1/7 (Majority); 7
V 2.1) 1890s doctor - Possibilities: antiseptic...sterile (Majority); premature...rigid
V 2.29) Compare two passages - Possibilities: Literal vs. Symbolic (Majority); Passage 2 explained historical circumstances
V 4.32) stepsons - Possibilities: did not apprehend nature (Majority); mix of ancient and modern science
V 7.5) Parents' comments about the rug - Possibilities: practicality of linoleum (Majority); pain of rich (valuable rug holds dust)
V 7.12) whiff - Possibilities: brevity of impression (Majority); penchant for fantasies

*** CURRENTLY UNCONFIRMED ***
V 2.22) Purpose of Lines 3-7 - Answer: initially perplexed (B)
V 4.8) theaters/Harlem renaissance - Answer: energized

MATH SECTIONS (21/60 LISTED; 20/60 CONFIRMED)

GENERAL PROBLEMS (6/50 LISTED; 5/50 CONFIRMED)
1.1) Represent 66 in dots - Answer: 5.5 dots (C)
1.2) Given right triangle w/angle 50º, find smallest angle - Answer: 40º (C)
1.8) If 6/7k = 6, find 1/k - Majority answer: 1/7 (***DISPUTED***)
1.12) If s represents SUM(1-1000)... - Answer: t-s
1.25) Divided triangle - Answer: 32 (E)
6.10) a+b = x Answer: x-1 (A)

QUANTITATIVE COMPARISONS (5/15 CONFIRMED)
3.1) MEAN(8,12,x) v; w>0 - Answer: (D)
3.?) Circumference of circle with inscribed triangle < 10pi - Answer: (B)
3.?) 2a = -2b (C)

GRID-INS (10/10 CONFIRMED)
Please see earlier update; post wouldn't fit.

VERBAL SECTIONS (56/78 LISTED; 49/78 CONFIRMED)

SENTENCE COMPLETIONS (13/19 LISTED; 11/19 CONFIRMED)
2.1) 1890s doctor - Majority answer: antiseptic...sterile (***DISPUTED***)
2.2) CA vanguard of movements - Answer: originated (B)
2.9) stage fright - Answer: bane
4.5) National Park Service - Answer: impeded...preserve
4.6) prehistoric fossils - Answer: bolster...disprove
4.7) prodigy girl - Answer: sham
4.8) theaters/Harlem renaissance - Answer: energized (***UNCONFIRMED***)
4.10) girl a source of exasperation - Answer: synonym for stubborn (B)

ANALOGIES (11/19 CONFIRMED)
2.11) QUARK:MINERAL :: SILK:FABRIC (Subcategory)
4.11) ARM:ELBOW :: LEG:KNEE (Endpoints)
4.14) BUS:VEHICLE :: LINER:SHIP (Subcategory)
4.15) SAFEGUARD:PROTECT :: (Synonyms)
4.19) FLUMMOX:CONFUSED :: BEWITCHED:SPELLBOUND (A)
4.21) MELLIFLUOUS:VOICE :: DELICIOUS:FOOD (B)
4.22) VIGNETTE:BREVITY :: (Characteristic)
4.23) RESOLUTE:PIGHEADED :: ACCOMODATE:FAWN (A) (Synonyms)
4.??) OMEN:PRESAGE :: SATIRE:DERIDE (Synonyms)

CRITICAL READING (32/40 LISTED; 27/40 CONFIRMED)

2.16-21) JAPANESE POETRY (4/6 CONFIRMED)
2.16) Beginning passage purpose - Answer: to show disappointment
2.20) Purpose of season metaphors - Answer: enumerate symbols
2.21) umbrella/glass chamber - Answer: to show incoherence

2.22-30) WESTERN SPIRIT (6/9 LISTED; 4/9 CONFIRMED)
2.22) Purpose of Lines 3-7 - Answer: initially perplexed (B) (***UNCONFIRMED***)
2.25) Passage 2 would feel about passage 1 - Answer: Nostalgic fantasies (E)
2.26) Britain "Workshop of the World" - Answer: to show US economic success
2.27) Consequences of industrialization - Answer: Lost individualism
2.29) Compare two passages - Majority answer: Passage 2 explained historical circumstances (***DISPUTED***)
2.30) Both passages have in common - Answer: cowboys had bitter relations with employers (D)

4.24-29) SHORT PASSAGES (6/6 CONFIRMED)
Please see earlier update; post wouldn't fit.

4.30-35) LEONARDO DA VINCI (5/6 LISTED; 4/6 CONFIRMED)
4.30) Purpose - Answer: Show Da Vinci's originality
4.31) misinterpretations - Answer: commonly held beliefs
4.32) stepsons - Majority answer: did not apprehend nature (***DISPUTED***)
4.34) Last paragraph implication - Answer: Scientific method earlier than known

7.1-13) IMMIGRANT SOCIETY (11/13 LISTED; 9/13 CONFIRMED)
7.2) Immigrants using plain furniture - Answer: Outside reflects inwardly
7.3) Discovery - Answer: realized copy of something cheaper
7.6) doctor/pharmacist - Answer: couldn't dream of going to professional jobs
7.9) literally - Answer: metaphor coincides with realism
7.10) Answer: Illustrated gulf between author and that of the doctor's son (D)
7.11) Answer: Parents were rationalizing situation
7.12) whiff - Majority answer: brevity of impression (***DISPUTED***)
7.13) overall tone - Answer: thoughtful

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit

I recall quite clearly that the problem was

If 6/7k = 6, what is 1/k?

k=7, so 1/k = 1/7.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure. The answer choice I selected was (A).

 By Dannyferizzle (Dannyferizzle) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:17 pm: Edit

Look at your math there, its completely wrong--if k=7 then you would have 6/49 = 6-- idont think so k=1/7 so k = 7.

I thikn the answer choice was E or D.

 By Blahdude (Blahdude) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit

the question was definitely asking for 1/k, so i think mlin is right

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:58 pm: Edit

Can someone write the answers for safegaurd:protect and VIGNETTE:BREVITY.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:27 pm: Edit

Mlin: is it possible I am thinking of a different question? I remember a problem that had 3 steps: It was something like 8/9 of 9, then take 7/8 of that. Those arent the numbers, but that is the one that I remember putting 7 down for. I dont remember a question like '6/7k = 6, what is 1/k'.

 By Nutriamorada (Nutriamorada) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit

think of it as (6/7)k, not 6/7k

(6/7)k = 42/7 (adding common demoninator)
6k = 42
k = 7

(6/7)(7) = 6

it works!

 By Cooldude (Cooldude) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit

1/k=7

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit

Yeah but we're not sure if it asked for just (k) or (1/k). All that math was unnecessary though...
If (6/7)k = 6, then k must equal 7..

 By Smartaleck123 (Smartaleck123) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Haithman, do you think the scale might allow for -1 wrong and still 800... like 800 800 whatever whatever... etc etc

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Answer my question. Is the problem i am talking about a different one? It had 3 steps to it, not just 1; but it was similar, and 7 was the answer. I think the question asked for 1/k, but I got k=1/7, i think.

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:26 pm: Edit

Yours is different. I remember both of those.

 By Kousuke (Kousuke) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:46 pm: Edit

you're missing the analogies one about gale:wind or something

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

gale:wind::deluge:water
VIGNETTE:BREVITY::Farce:absurdity

 By Kaoak (Kaoak) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

VIGNETTE:BREVITY = FARCE:ABSURDITY.

Also, PILFERER:FILCH = SWINDLER:DEFRAUD.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:28 pm: Edit

Ok, thanks. What about safegaurd: protect?

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:31 pm: Edit

I may be wrong but I think that safeguard:protect went with lampoon:ridicule.

 By Jaug1 (Jaug1) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit

ok. although I did not that the SAT I test I can answer the question about 1/k 110% certain. I took AP Calculus this year so I am fairly good at math. Here is how the problem goes (there are 2 different solutions because I dont know the parenthsis order):

a) 6/(7k)=6
k = 1/7 (1/7 x 7=1, 6/1=6)
1/k = 7

b) (6/7)k = 6
k = 7 (7/7=1, 6x1=6)
1/k = 1/7

Whatever is the correct way to view the problem there are your answers. Hope that clears up confusion.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:42 pm: Edit

No, Eulogy:honor was lampoon to ridicule.

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:51 pm: Edit

I think
safeguard:protect::Satire:deride

Safeguard is something used to protect such as Satire is someething used to deride.

 By Kousuke (Kousuke) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:20 pm: Edit

anyone know what the other answers for safegaurd:protect were?

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:33 pm: Edit

Just to put another spin on the stepson question. A stepson is a son from another marriage. The old scientists and new scientists could sort of be like two sets of parents. Therefore it could make sense that the stepson in the passage had divided loyalties between the old scientists and the new scientists. Thanks for reading.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:38 pm: Edit

On top of which I don't see how the term stepson relates to not understanding.

 By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:47 pm: Edit

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:59 pm: Edit

I'm not sure I would interpret "stepson" too literally. I considered the same logic you did. However, the passage didn't mention divided loyalties. IT talked about how the scientists devoted themselves to the old teachings. Da Vinci was really the only one who followed the new teachings of experimentation. So I think that the "stepsons" didn't have a full understanding of nature since they were relying on what others learned instead of discovering for themselves.

 By Blahdude (Blahdude) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 08:29 pm: Edit

I agree with Akid4, the stepson was the term used the describe the scientists who were not necessarily understanding of Nature that is why they were not the sons of nature, but rather the stepsons. Also, the passage did not talk of divided loyalties especially to the "modern" scientists. The only ones mentioned are the ones of the new millenium (newton etc.)

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 08:35 pm: Edit

Where is Delacroix when you need him?

 By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 09:00 pm: Edit

I agree with Akid4 because no where in the passage does it speak of dividing loyalties. The old scientists weren't loyal to the old ways, they were merely ignorant to the new techniques which Da Vinci was way ahead of his time with.

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 09:03 pm: Edit

I answered it with the same logic as Zbj....
This is what sucks about verbal! There are too many "possible" answers!

 By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 06:26 am: Edit

Mlin, on 4.10) the answer is Recalcitrant.

 By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 06:38 am: Edit

Tired Student, that was rain, not water.

 By Crazylicious (Crazylicious) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 02:03 pm: Edit

Hollaratme> it was a ratio problem (or that's how I solved it)... I don't remember the data the problem gave but this is generally what I remember doing.

________________________ = ____________
corresponding given value................640

Someone correct me if I'm wrong!! Because I may be confused with another problem (hey this was a couple days ago...) I don't want to give false info

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 02:49 pm: Edit

Yeah it was a ratio, and the answer was 1280.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 02:52 pm: Edit

64 x 20 = 1280

 By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 04:46 pm: Edit

hopefully i got that lol

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 07:03 pm: Edit

I'm here (Zbjz15)! I'm not sure what you need right now, but perhaps its backup for the stepson question. I agree with your reasoning for that question...it makes perfect sense. The question specifically asked why he used the term "stepson", so the answer has to involve the the "stepson" relationship. Therefore, a stepchild may feel divided loyalties or feelings towards their former parent and the new family he or she is assimilated into. The scientists were in a transition between the old, ancient way of thinking and newer, more original and experimental sciences. Thus, referring to "stepson" is characterizing the struggle between those two loyalties. Hope this helps!

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 07:10 pm: Edit

Yea that is what I needed, backup for the stepson question. The only thing that destroys our argument is if it said in the passage "devoted themselves fully to the old teachings" like some people claim it says. I don't remember this but perhaps I am suffering from selective memory.

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 07:13 pm: Edit

yeah...oh well...there's not much we can do now. I'm really hoping for a generous verbal curve since I did some stupid educated guessing (an oxymoron, I know) on a couple analogies...sigh.

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 07:33 pm: Edit

it's not true that the scientists were "in a transition between the old, ancient way of thinking and newer, more original and experimental sciences", which was the crux of the passage. The point was that Da Vinci was ahead of his time and was therefore unlike his contemporaries who were stuck in the ancient way of thinking.

This is why I don't believe that to be the answer.

 By Delacroix (Delacroix) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 07:42 pm: Edit

Hey,
Someone put this link, which details the experimental sections for the June SAT:
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/sat/testday/highlights.html

Did anyone else have the second form? Do you remember some questions for the fourth section verbal (equating section)? I might have thought wrong for which questions would not be counted...NOOOOOOOOOOO panic panic

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 08:41 pm: Edit

Write the questions you thought were experimental and I can tell you if I had them or not. I had a math experimental so any I had were real for verbal.

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 08:43 pm: Edit

safeguard:protection = camoflauge:concealment

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 08:48 pm: Edit

Here were a few of the experimental I remember...

Cacophony:ears as pungent:nose
Suture:wound as Sew:tear
Graybeard:youth as greenhorn:expericence

And the passage was the one about masculine and feminine connotations

 By Nrkwon (Nrkwon) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:03 pm: Edit

well,
confusing math section was not experimental...
there goes my 800~

 By Number9 (Number9) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:07 pm: Edit

Energy1 is correct on that one. It seems many of these analogies are getting mixed together in my mind...

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:12 pm: Edit

akid4 those r experimental

 By Number9 (Number9) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:13 pm: Edit

Akid4: Are you international?

I had experimental verbal, and did not see any of those analogies...

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:14 pm: Edit

Experimental Verbal didn't have any analogies...

 By Number9 (Number9) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit

He has to be international (or a Sunday taker), I don't remember seeing ANY of those things anywhere...

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:19 pm: Edit

Here is another math answer to put up. It was section 1 math section. It was number 25 and the answer was 32. I think it was an area question.

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit

I'm not sure, but I'm not international. I had four verbal sections and all of them except for section 7 had analogies. I must be missing something.

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:21 pm: Edit

And I took it Saturday...

 By Number9 (Number9) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:31 pm: Edit

Interesting, indeed...

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:34 pm: Edit

I don't understand what is so weird. Akid1 is listing off analogies from his experimental section. There is no question that those are experimental. There is more than 1 experimental section so that is why you may not have seen it.

 By Number9 (Number9) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:38 pm: Edit

YOu'd figure more people would mention those, instead of the same ones that were seen on every one else's verbal experimental section...

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:53 pm: Edit

Can someone kindly write out the gist of the 1890s doctors sentence completion with the blanks? I need to settle this one in my head.

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:40 am: Edit

There was a fat triangle with a height of 8(radical 3). Then it was divided into two smaller triangles, both 30-60-90 of different size. No matter which side the bigger triangle of the two is on, you will get the same answer.

Using properties of 30-60-90 triangle:

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 07:31 am: Edit

Energy: You seem to have a good memory. Do you remember number 24 on that section?

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit

 By Haithman (Haithman) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit

LoL because we've gone through every question like 10 times each!
Sit back, Relax, and wait for those scores.

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 05:41 pm: Edit

Thanks. But I only remember questions if you give me an idea of what the question was about or what the answer was.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 06:21 pm: Edit

Do you remember the 1890s doctor sentence completion? I would really like to see that sentence again.

 By Energy1 (Energy1) on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:50 pm: Edit

Answer was sterile and something else.

Hrmmm. The sentence itself was about the discovery of an antiseptic environment which caused other scientists/doctors to change their mothods.

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:29 am: Edit

What were the other answer choices for SAFEGUARD:PROTECT? I somehow have a feeling that I chose a different answer; however, CAMOUFLAGE:CONCEALMENT does makes perfect sense -- it just seemed slightly obvious for me to miss.

Also, was it SAFEGUARD:PROTECTION (noun form) or PROTECT (verb)?

 By Nexusgeo (Nexusgeo) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:33 am: Edit

Energy1,

It was infectious & sterile.

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:45 am: Edit

Update 4. Let's keep this going -- it will be beneficial for us since the QAS service isn't available on this particular test.

*** CURRENTLY UNCONFIRMED *** (2)
V 2.22) Purpose of Lines 3-7 - Answer: initially perplexed (B)
V 4.8) theaters/Harlem renaissance - Answer: energized

*** CURRENTLY DISPUTED *** (4)
M 1.8) If 6/7k = 6, find 1/k - Possibilities: 1/7 (Majority); 7
V 2.29) Compare two passages - Possibilities: Literal vs. Symbolic (Majority); Passage 2 explained historical circumstances
V 4.32) stepsons - Possibilities: did not apprehend nature (Majority); mix of ancient and modern science
V 7.12) whiff - Possibilities: brevity of impression (Majority); penchant for fantasies

V 2.1) 1890s doctor - Answer: antiseptic...sterile (A)
V 4.15) SAFEGUARD:PROTECT :: CAMOUFLAGE:CONCEALMENT

THE FOLLOWING ARE MY ANSWERS FOR THE FIRST THREE SECTIONS -- THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY CORRECT BUT I HAVE LABELED ALL OF THE CURRENTLY DISPUTED OR UNCONFIRMED ONES. I am confident about the math sections, except for the one disputed problem.

SECTION 1: MATH: REGULAR FIVE-CHOICE QUESTIONS

1. C
2. C
3. D
4. D
5. A
6. C
7. E
8. A (DISPUTED)
9. B
10. D
11. B
12. E
13. A
14. E
15. E
16. D
17. D
18. B
19. A
20. D
21. C
22. C
23. C
24. B
25. E

SECTION 2: VERBAL: TWO READING PASSAGES

1. B (This should be A)
2. D
3. D
4. C
5. B
6. C
7. E
8. B
9. C
10. E
11. E
12. C
13. A
14. E
15. D
16. B
17. C
18. C
19. D
20. A
21. B
22. B (UNCONFIRMED)
23. E
24. D
25. B
26. C
27. A
28. E
29. C (DISPUTED)
30. D

SECTION 3: MATH: QC AND SPR

1. B
2. C
3. A
4. D
5. A
6. D
7. C
8. B
9. A
10. A
11. D
12. C
13. B
14. B
15. C
16-25. See above.

 By Nexusgeo (Nexusgeo) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:52 am: Edit

Mlin, are you sure that the majority of people put
"Literal Vs Symbolic" for the comparison between
2 passages question? I thought it was kinda
agreed upon that one provided historical circumstances for the other one..

 By Asfafan (Asfafan) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:08 am: Edit

Mlin, it was PROTECTION. I also have the same feeling that I chose a different answer. I think my sentence was "To X gives Y" or something like that (To Safeguard is to give Protection). But I don't remember the other choices...

 By Mlin (Mlin) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:10 am: Edit

That was the outcome of my data collection from the two topics here and the SAT AIM chat held Saturday afternoon.

I definitely agree with your answer choice -- I didn't have any second thoughts when I marked it.

 By Nexusgeo (Nexusgeo) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:16 am: Edit

Okay..

Some people have feared the "Math Section 4."
Did it turn out that it was the experimental section?
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/sat/testday/highlights.html

This site says a particular section 4 was experimental but it doesn't say if it was math or verbal.

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 07:35 am: Edit

For me the third section math was experimental. It was a 25 question set. Thank god because I couldn't answer 2 questions on that section.

I don't think the letters are really going to help anyone. There is no way we can get the answers from all those math questions?

 By Akid4 (Akid4) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:10 am: Edit

Is there anyway to get answers with the letters? At least for the ones not previously answered?

 By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:33 am: Edit

Can you explain why you think it's literal vs. symbolic? I put tht passage 2 explained the historical circumstances of passage 1.

Passage 2 explained why the west was not as the writer of passage 1 expected it to be.

 By Thegumby (Thegumby) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:16 am: Edit

What about the question with the unraveled cube labeled A-F? And you had to say what would be on the bottom?

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 11:02 pm: Edit

Passage 2 explained the historical circumstances of passage 1 is the right answer for 2:29.

Can someone please try to write out the 1890'2 doctor sentence competion with the blanks?

 By Joanna180 (Joanna180) on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 11:30 pm: Edit

I had a dream that I made a 1040 on the SAT... and I was all freaking out and...laughing for some reason. lol

 By Thegumby (Thegumby) on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 12:25 am: Edit

is the unraveled cube (with sides labeled a-f) question/section experimental?

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 09:03 am: Edit

^^^^Yes

 By Zbjz15 (Zbjz15) on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 08:42 am: Edit

SOMEONE PLEASE WRITE THE DOCTOR SENTENCE COMPLETION!

 By Ledyana (Ledyana) on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 07:20 pm: Edit

Does international student get a different sat test? (since i never seen all of these..)