| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:08 pm: Edit |
For those of you who did take it, what do you all think?
| By Glassorange (Glassorange) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:13 pm: Edit |
I thought it was pretty easy, i just had one verbal that i ommitted due to being unsure, it was ambush:waylay. Math i thought was pretty fair, i found a mistake though. The one with the different colors of paint they messed up. I had to omit about 8 math q's striclty due to time constraints
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:15 pm: Edit |
I got the lowest answer for the paint one... I think it was either 2.5 or 2.5.
I think the ambush:waylay as swindler:defraud was the correct one.
I know the I got the question wrong with tirade:long as one of the choices. I can't remember what it was, though.
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:18 pm: Edit |
predict the curve for this test.
all other tests this year have been old tests. does anyone happen to know what year this test was?
thanks!
i also got swindler:defraud.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:20 pm: Edit |
Ahh I did so bad, I think. Should I cancel? I got a 1460 on the March SAT's and I'm alomst positive that this score will be lower. Please, someone, help- I'm freaking out here! Or can someone at least post some of the answers they got so I can compare my answers?
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:22 pm: Edit |
Oh- what was the answer to math one with EAST and BEST (I think it was that) where you had to find the probability of getting 2 of the same letters?
| By Glassorange (Glassorange) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:23 pm: Edit |
The paint problem I think was a mistake. It wanted to know how many quarts of blue paint was needed to make 10 quarts of amazon. Amazon consisted of 3 quarts of royal purple and 2 of leaf green. Each leaf green had 1 quart of blue paint, each royal purple had 3 quarts of blue paint. This may not be exact but its what i remember. So in order to make 10 quarts of blue you would need a lot more blue paint then the answer choices given. I put 9 because it was the highest.
btw. Does anyone know the experimental section of today's test?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:23 pm: Edit |
MATH-
Does anyone remember what they got for the last question in section 5 (at least for me) asking to find the perimeter of a quadrilateral in a pyramid?
Thanks
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:25 pm: Edit |
Yeah, I think that one with the paint was a mistake as well. Also, what was the answer to the area question with the slanted top on the rectangle and the one in a different section with a small triangle inscribed in a larger triange (they asked about the perimeter of the small triange) Thanks!
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:26 pm: Edit |
curve and answers! someone post! lol.
| By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:27 pm: Edit |
Paint problem was 3.5, too bad I said 6.
| By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:28 pm: Edit |
What was the answer to incisor:tooth, was it hair:follicle?
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:28 pm: Edit |
the area question was 2/3 of (15*15) which was 150.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:29 pm: Edit |
I put finger:digit
Why is the paint problem 3.5?
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:30 pm: Edit |
here's the test: it's been used before:
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?69/8817
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:30 pm: Edit |
how did you get the answer for the paint one? it made noo sense
for the one with the 2 triangles, i put 12
i put finger: digit for the becuase an incisor is a type of tooth and a finger is a type of digit? i wasnt sure
what was THE SHED QUESTION!? i spent the whole time trying to figure it out, and i still have no clue how to do it
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:31 pm: Edit |
The paint one WAS definitely 3.5.
Think about it. You have 10 quarts. In each of the two colors that make it up (royal purple and leaf green), blue comprised a smaller part. How could you have MORE blue than 10 quarts if that's how much paint you wanted to make?
| By Glassorange (Glassorange) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:31 pm: Edit |
Yeah why is the paint problem 3.5 i think i remembered the exact details to the question and posted them above and its nowhere near 3.5
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:31 pm: Edit |
I was able to get it to work out (the paint problem) after discovering the same problem as you all. I got the lowest answer on the paint problem...initally, I multiplied the ratios by 10 (meaning ten quarts) to get like 18 or something, but then I realized that you only need to multiply by two. If anyone remembers the exact numbers, I can work it out. Caveat exemptor: I am by no means a math genius. 
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if it was an experimental question.
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:32 pm: Edit |
more comments on verbal:
http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?69/8817
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:32 pm: Edit |
The paint answer was 3.5
Here's how it goes:
10 quarts Amazon has how many blue quarts?
5 quarts Amazon = 3 quarts RP and 2 quarts LG
So 10 quarts Amazon will have 6 quarts RP and 4 quarts LG.
3 quarts RP is 1 quart blue and 2 quarts red.
So 10 quarts Amazon will have 2 quarts blue, 4 quarts red and 4 quarts LG.
8 quarts LG is 3 quarts blue and 5 quarts yellow.
So 10 quarts Amazon will have 2+3/2 quarts blue, 4 quarts red, and 5/2 quarts yellow.
SO
10 quarts A = 3.5 qu. B, 4 qu. R, and 2.5 qu. Y.
I put swindler:defraud.
This test was old, I think I've taken the entire thing before (<-- CEEB allows this? wtf?)
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit |
Yeah, I got finger:digit, too. For the shed one, I just thought that the height of the roof reached 6 at 2/3 of the way up the roof. Thus, the floor with a roof of 6 feet or above over it was 2/3 of the area of the floor. 2/3 of 225 is 150. Flawed thinking?\
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:38 pm: Edit |
The shed problem you had to realize that the slope of the shed was -1/5 and so the area under the height of >6ft. is (10 * 15) or 150.
The paint problem wasn't experimental, I've seen it or something similar to it before.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:38 pm: Edit |
can we go over answers from the very last passage? it was mad hard!
| By Glassorange (Glassorange) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:39 pm: Edit |
well which section was experimental? I tend to think that one was since it was a 15 min math section
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit |
I'm going to copy and paste from poster 'chrisg' so that we can elaborate on other questions not mentioned in the aforementioned thread. Chrisg seems to be pretty dead-on (in my opinion, but that's also because I agree with all of his answers ;) ):
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OK, there has been some really great information on this board so far; here's my addition:
I put 'humorous recipe' for the aforementioned reason about the perfumer
I put that Elliotson's and Faraday's work was the science of the time, not comparable methods - Faraday was actually a famous and legitimate scientist who followed a roughly scientific method (for the time) and made some important discoveries. This contrasts with the questionable scientific method used with mesmerism. However, both men's work was influenced by the science of the time, which was fascinated by the harnessing of energy, as the passage explains.
pathological liar question - I put 'understandable exaggeration' because the author seems to understand the reasons for her parents' perception of her brother. Even though she admits that her own perception of him would be different than their's, she understands her father's slightly exaggerated point of view.
Computer screen question - I put continuity of experience - the key to this was that the author transitioned very smoothly from the past to the present within the sentence. I do not think that the correct answer was 'nostalgia' because 'nostalgia' was a choice for the author's attitude toward her parents in another question, and the correct answer to that question was 'objectivity' (she mentions that the pillar on the stairs allowed her to detach herself from the situation and view her family as fully realized individuals.) I don't think CB would try to argue that one aspect of the passage is nostalgic but another part is not.
I would also like to clear up some confusion that I see in the posts concerning the time passage. I believe that the correct choice for the question about what the Kiowas and the Mayans had in common was that they both rejected the Western concept of linear time. People seem to think that the choice read that they both embraced cyclical time; I think it actually read the former, which is a much easier answer to argue. For the answer of 'both viewed time as something difficult to describe,' that was concerning Feynman and the Kiowas, not the Kiowas and the Mayans. Remember that Feynman explicitly stated that time was a difficult-to-grasp concept in Passage 2.
I believe (although I am not 100% sure on this one) that the choice about compartmentalizing time on another question for the time passage was not correct. I think I put that today's Western society was influenced tremendously by the likes of past civilizations. However, I am not completely sure that these were even choices for the same question. Can anyone tell me exactly what the question was for the compartmentalize time choice?
unflagged:fade::impassive:flinch <- this is correct. Although i put uncropped:trim on the test, I now realize my error.
I put escapism on the movie question, because a movie lacking profoundness would not pander to (cater to) an occassional desire for insight.
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| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit |
What about the quant comp. one with two sets of perpendicular lines and they ask you to compare the slops? Anyone know the answer to that one? I think it was something like l and m are perpendicular and m and r are perpendicular as well.
| By Miumiu016 (Miumiu016) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit |
Prospective 900 Thanks collegeboard! At least community college will be cheap.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit |
ok heres the ones I remember
maxim:wordiness:_________? (I said cliche:origianlity but I didnt know)
The reporter's arguments were ______ because they kept repreating what they said (circuitus)
Surevey of 5000 people voted either for against or undecided. 1800 people voted for 2200 voted against 1000 voted undecided. The undecideds put their votes in with the others in the same proportion of for to against. How many people voted against. (I had no freakin clue)
BEST EAST
What is the probability of picking a letter from both words that are the same
numbers around a circle 1-8 how many different lines can you make from eeach number to another point around a circle (I said 56)
pattern of dots each adding one to the height in a staircase patern. how many dots are in the 5th pattern?
The attorney's arguments were _________ because he didnt answer to the last minute (I said duplicitous but there was also corroborative or something IDK)
lecturn:notes::stand:music
if i remeber more later ill post
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit |
lauren: i put A becuase l has a positive slope and the m had a negative slope
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit |
For the shed one, you had to recognize that if you draw a horizontal line beginning at the vertex of the roof and the right wall and ending at the opposite (left) wall, you've created a right triangle with a base of 15, and a height of 3 (hard to visualize without seeing the shed). Also, you must notice that the question wants the area of ONLY the portion of the floor that is under a portion of the roof that is greater than or equal to 6 feet in height. So, taking both of these things into account, what we want to do is figure out exactly what portion of the length of the front side of the house (15) we have to multiply by the side of the house (also 15), to get the area of the floor. We find this by finding at what length the roof gets to six feet, which can be accomplished by using the aforementioned right triangle created by the slant of the roof. Right now, the triangle is 15-3-c, which means at the end of it the height of the roof is 8 feet. We want to fight where the height is 6 feet, so we subtract that 3 by two and now we want to create a x-(3-1)-c triangle. To find x, its simply a proportion: 3/15 = 2/x. Multiply it out, and find that x=10. Now we know that we are only dealing with 10 feet of the 15 foot side of the house, so we mutiply that by the other 15 foot side to find the area, 150 square feet.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:43 pm: Edit |
lauren::
M and R slope was negative
L was positive I think
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:43 pm: Edit |
i put that the slope of l is greater than the slope of m and r, since m and r had negative slopes.
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit |
numbers around a circle 1-8 how many different lines can you make from eeach number to another point around a circle (I said 56)
pattern of dots each adding one to the height in a staircase patern. how many dots are in the 5th pattern?
^^^experimental section? i didnt have those questions
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:45 pm: Edit |
Okay, a couple of analogies I wonder about:
Writing::Journalism as...
Memoir::Life (Writing is the written form of Journalism, just as a memoir is a written form of life)
Maxim::Long (another word meaning the same thing, but I forget it) as...
Cliche::originality (A maxim lacks length, just as a cliche lacks originality)
Sentence completion:
The one about the workers is almost positively 'castigate'.
I'll try to remember more...
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:45 pm: Edit |
EXPERIMENTAL SECTIONS: what were they/what did they include?
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit |
what was the BEST/EAST answer? probability of getting two of the same letterS? i had 3/16
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit |
i put 3/16 for the best/east one
(theres 3/4 chance you'll pick e s or t, and then a 1/4 chance you'll pick the same letter out of east)..makes sense?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:47 pm: Edit |
BEST EAST problem:
i put 3/16
3/4 chance of picking e,s, or t from BEST
1/4 chance of picking the correct letter from EAST
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit |
I GOT a 36 question verbal for section 5... WTF was that? i didn't do any of it because i assumed it was experimental...
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit |
it was maxim: wordiness....i was like wtf i just thought of maxim the magazine and thought it didnt have words, mostly pictures
if it was cliche: originatlity, i got it right!
the one was vignette: brief.....i put memoir: personal
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit |
I think section 5 might have been experimental. I had another verbal section, yet others had a math section.
vignette: brief
memoir: personal (a vignette is brief prose, as a memoir is personal prose)
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit |
Haruhara, how is it 1/4 cahcne for the EAST one? I have no idea on that question
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit |
Stand and music... I put bed and sheet.
Because think about it,
You put notes on a lectern,
you put sheets on a beed.
You don't put music on a stand. You put sheetmusic on a stand.
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit |
For the EAST BEST one, first you have a 3/4 chance of picking the same letter, and then a 1/4 chance of putting the same letter together. (1/4)(3/4) = 3/16
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit |
What was the answer to the problem that was like (2^a)^6 and (4^b)^4????
I got circuitous
For the 5000 people voting question the answer was 2880
I didn't have the question about the dots around the circle so that must have been experimental
BEST EAST was 3/16
Duplicitous wasn't the answer for "The attorney's arguemtns..." but I'm not sure what was
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit |
gah, i was definitely debating the sheet music/music aspect of that question, but i decided to go for it anyway.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
davidrune,
ughhhh! I always called sheetmusic music!! ahh what the hell. that was unfair. Iwas thinking you read notes from a lecturn and you read music from a stand
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
The BEST EAST one was 3/16, I think. Since the two words share three different letters (EST), the chance of getting E-->E, S-->S, and T-->T are 1/16 each. However, since there are three separate scenarios, you have to add them together, since it doesn't matter which letter you get to begin with. So, I got 3/16.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
the answer for the 5000 people voting was 2750!! not 2880.
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit |
Music can be put on a stand:
mu·sic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (myzk)
n.
The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.
A musical composition.
The written or printed score for such a composition.
Such scores considered as a group: We keep our music in a stack near the piano.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit |
What was the answer to the problem that was like (2^a)^6 and (4^b)^4????
A is bigger because I thought if a=1/3 and b=1/4 , a = bigger
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit |
The vote question's answer was 2750.
The BEST/EAST answer was 3/16.
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit |
NOTES:LECTERN::MUSIC:STAND
Why? A lectern is a physical object on which you put notes for the purpose of reading them. A stand is a physical object on which you put music (sheet music) for the purpose of reading it.
Sheets go on beds, but the purpose of beds as they relate to sheets is not analogous.
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit |
notes are placed on a lectern to read; music is placed on a stand to read. Definition of a lectern is a "desk from which the lessons are read" by OED.
experimental math sections?
curves?
QUESTION: how can the collegeboard use this test AGAIN when it's only a year old?!?
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit |
You cover a bed with sheets; notes are put on a lecturn for aid in performing a specific task, just as music is put in a stand for aid in performing a task.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit |
I got dilatory for the attorney question.
I also got circuitous and 3/16 for the BEST EAST question.
Did anyone get 35 degrees for the question with the tilted square?
What about the inscribed triangle circumference one?
I got music:stand
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit |
for VIGNETTE:BRIEF... i think i put... hm.. what was the other one? requited:desire? if the other choice was requited:desire, then i definitely put memoir:personal. what was the other "possible" choice for VIGNETTE:BRIEF?
what about...
INSCISOR : TOOTH
i put HAIR : FOLLICLE
but i was between that and
FINGER:DIGIT.
then
AMBUSHER:WAYLAY
i was between
KNAVE:TRUST and (some fraudulent guy here):DEFRAUD
i put the defraud one.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit |
I got dilatory for the attorney question. ::: crap. you are right.
What about the inscribed triangle circumference one? I said it was something like 9 or 18 or something like that. Idont think my answer was right though. i thought that was ahard question
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit |
35 degrees is correct
do you mean the equilateral triangle inscribed in a larger equilateral triangle?
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit |
yeah that one mattlord
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit |
I got 35 degrees. The question confused me at first, until I realized that there was the 70 degree angle, 2 right angles and the obtuse angle from the triangle where the missing angle was. I realized that all of the angles must add up to 360 (the 70, 2 rights, and obtuse angle), so the obtuse angle was 110, and since it was an isos. triangle, 70/2 = 35.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit |
here are all my answers for student produced response:
0 - 2/3
1 - 5
2 - 28
3 - 4
4 - 8800
5 - 90
6 - 519
7 - 217
8 - 79
9 - 2750
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit |
((4^b)^4) = ((2^2)^b)^4 = 2^8b
2^6a vs. 2^8b
take log base 2 both sides
6a vs. 8b
a must be larger to compensate for larger b coefficient.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit |
Others:
I also got swindler:defraud and impassive:flinch (I think that's what it was)
Did other people have these same verbal sections:
Dickenson, girl watching family from stairs, Native Americans and time and 2 tiny paragraphs with 2 questions each? I think the 2 paragraphs might have been experimental.
Does anyone remember answers from the last 15 minute math section and the verbal section about Native Americans and time?
Mattlord: I agree with you. I think it's crap that they can re-use a test so soon. If I take it again I'm definitely going to study recent tests!
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
I too got 35 degrees --- took me a while to realize it was isosocles. silly me.
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
why can i not find "unflagged" in the OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY?!?
i thought it was impassive:flinch, but i omitted it. UGH!
| By Narcissus (Narcissus) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
I got the the larger radical answer for the equilateral triangle. I just guessed that the sides would be divided into 8 and 4, tried it out, and it worked out for E.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit |
lauren,
yes I had the girl and steps, indian time one -- i didnt have an experimental verbal.
The native american time one was kinda hard IDK any answers
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
Haruhara: What were the problems for 2, 6 and 7?
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
Ok let's see what I can recall...
I don't remember the questions but I got "ubiquitous" for one, "protean"/"bedazzled" for one, and verdant, for one.
As far as the questions everyone is arguing:
-understandable exaggeration
-continuity of experience
-repeated command or something
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
Which question did you get 519 for? my friend and i both do NOT recall getting 519 for anything.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
Haruhara- do you remember the questions to any of those? I think I got .5555 for one of them but it seemed kind of wrong.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
what about the comparison between the mayans' and the kiowas' view of time? i put that they both regarded time as being cyclic or something...
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
Ilcapo-I got all those ansers too
| By Brum (Brum) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
2750? how?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
The inscribed equilateral answer was 12sqrt(3).
You need to remember that 30-60-90 triangles follow a x-2x-xsqrt(3) rule and all the 30-60-90 triangles formed were congruent.
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
i also got 5/9 for one of the student responses
but im not good at math so who knows
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
"unflagged," anyone?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
oops, #6 i meant 5/9, not 519
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
Ilcapo: I didn't get "protean/bedazzled" for anything
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit |
for the one where some of you may have put "protean/bedazzled" i actually put "eclectic/wearied". an eclectic ability would be very "diverse", and having so many diverse elements would "weary" and audience having ot keep up.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit |
#2 was about the 100 workers that did at least one days' worth of work (question asked for how many did both)
#6 was... the finding the k constant.
#7 i don't remember.
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit |
What was 5/9 for?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit |
vas-natarajan, i believe that you are referring to a problem from the experimental section (section 5), which had 36 questions and like 4 different passages.
| By Nike1800 (Nike1800) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit |
why is the vote question 2750 instead of 2880?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:05 pm: Edit |
5/9 for finding the k constant
| By Jrpar (Jrpar) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
So what's the verdict: was the test relatively easy or hard?
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
Haruhara: #2 was 14 (1/2 of 28 because each worker worked each of hte two days)
#6: correct
#7: anyone remember???
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
protean/bedazzled works better
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit |
What was the question for "protean/bedazzled" ?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit |
Ubiquitous were the rulers portraits.
Protean/bedazzled might've been experimental (don't remember it).
Verdant was the New Zealand Fiordland rain forests.
The Kiowa's didn't view time as cyclic. The opening paragraph says that most Native American's do but then says that you can't generalize and talks about the Kiowa's. Besides, there was no "both view time as cyclic answer", the answer was "Neither view time as cyclic" and the Kiowa's didn't but the Mayans kinda did (crop cycles but probably not reliving/recreation of things).
For the lawyer one, I didn't put duplicitous because waiting to the last minute is not deceitful or deceptive just rather dubious.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit |
no, #2 was 28. 60 workers on the first day, 40 alternate workers had to have worked the second day, but an additional 28 worked (making it 68.)
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit |
well that vote question (which was 2750):
5000 voters
36% for
44% against
20% neutral
so now we have 2200 people against, 1000 people undecided, and 1800 people for.
they told us that the people undecided voted in the same ratio as the people that voted for/against.
thus we can only say that if "x" is the number of people that were for in the 20% undecided, then (44/36)*x is the number of the 20% that were against. get the value of (44/36)x and add it to 2200.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit |
well that vote question (which was 2750):
5000 voters
36% for
44% against
20% neutral
so now we have 2200 people against, 1000 people undecided, and 1800 people for.
they told us that the people undecided voted in the same ratio as the people that voted for/against.
thus we can only say that if "x" is the number of people that were for in the 20% undecided, then (44/36)*x is the number of the 20% that were against. get the value of (44/36)x and add it to 2200.
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:09 pm: Edit |
I did the vote question differently:
First I took 44 percent of 5000 (the number of people who initially voted against) which is: 2200.
Then, I took 44 percent of 20 percent (the number of people who initially voted undecided, but then voted against in the actual election) of 5000: 440.
Finally, I added them to find the total number of people who voted against: 2640.
What did I do wrong?
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit |
answer to vote question was 2750 because:
5000 voters
44% against, 36% for, 20% undecided
the wording was, how many opposed if the ratio of for to against was the same for undecided
this means:
Against:.44*5000=2200
Undecided: (44/80)1000=550
the 44/80 is the true ratio
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit |
which one was expiremental my nose started bleeding during the second verbal and i wasnt allowed extra time so if that was expiremental i am good
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:11 pm: Edit |
Pretty sure the write in math #2 was 28 not 14.
To get 2750 voted against, you have to look at the data given.
5000 voters
36% for
44% against
20% undecided
11/20 of the voters that responded with for/against said that they would vote against the proposition so therefore the against side will gain 11/20 of 20% or 11%. 11% + 44% = 55%
55% of 5000 is 2750
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:12 pm: Edit |
Answers to analogy?
Ensnared:Net
I put mired is to mud...other possible choice was something knot
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit |
Ahh, I get it, I just did the percentage where I should have done the proportion. At least it was a free response.
Mired:Mud was right.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit |
Yeah I got mired:mud as well
But damn, I think I really screwed up the math section
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit |
Hello, does anybody know which section was experimental? A few questions that were present on my test weren't present in other tests.
Example:
WRITINGS : JOURNALISM :: ?
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit |
Ensnared:Net
Mired:Mud
You become ensnared in a net, just as you are mired in mud.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit |
Cognitio:
The 44% you used is of the total population. The question was saying that the undecideds split based on what the _decided_ voters voted on.
Thus, 55%.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:15 pm: Edit |
what about unflagged:fade
i put impassive:flinch
cuz something "impassive" does not flinch
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:15 pm: Edit |
well to all those that may have missed a question on math, looks like the curve will allow 1 miss to still get a 800...(this is based on looking at April 2003 test...which is the same as today's)
And an overall generous verbal curve
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:15 pm: Edit |
Woops. That was dumb of me!
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit |
Writing is a written form of journalism, just as a memoir is a written form of one's life.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit |
Mired:Mud
Tied:Knot doesn't work because a net ensnares you and mud mires you but a knot doesn't tie you.
I think WRITINGS: JOURNALISM::?:? was experimental (I didn't have).
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit |
what about the one with memoir:personal? what was the question? and also what was the other "possible answer"?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit |
isnt college board NOT ALLOWED to repeat tests....isnt that illegal or something?
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit |
vignette:brief
which is the one i put
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit |
Vignette : Brief :: ?
The answer was Memoir : Personal.
I don't know where this Writing : Journalism stuff comes from.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit |
when do u find which one was experimental sections
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit |
Does anyone know the answer to the math question about how many pairs of the 6 volunteers you can make?
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit |
some more that i am positive of:
necktie:neck, belt:waist
lectern:notes, stand: music
ensnared:net, mired: mud
abusher: waylay, swindler: defraud
incisor: tooth, toe: digit
maxim: wordiness, cliche: originality
abase: prestige, demote: rank
water: whirlpool, wind: tornado
jabber: talk, write:scrawl
astral: star, lunar: moon
unflagging: fade, impassive: flinch
extravagant: restraint, demure: brazenness
Sentence Completion: Ubiquitous, portent, verdant, buoyant, dilatory, castigate, alchemy, slanted?
Readings:
Perfume- underscores love, command, heady=powerful
Dickens- skepticism-->advocacy, manipulative, science of the time, harness power=benefits, intimate=close
Random math:
79 for the one about switching number around, the one with the 2^a^6 or something i put A cause it was 4 and 3, 75% decrease, 15 for the teams of pairs, the remainder one was D
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit |
who put DOGGEREL:CRITICISM for one of the analogies? i believe it was the MEMOIR:PERSONAL one
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit |
It think its a combination question: 6 nPc 2 = 15. Thats what I put.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit |
slanted? which one was that?
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit |
15 pairs of volunteers. You have to use 6 nCr 2. You could've also done it easily on paper.
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit |
What do you guys think the scale is going to be for this SAT?
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:22 pm: Edit |
Er, I meant nCr, lol
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit |
the slanted one was about some author writing about african americans and he only talked about the rich ones so it was SLANTED
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit |
Ilcapo: slanted?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit |
about that DICKENS PASSAGE:
that professor...
did he suffer sacrifices because of his involvement with mesmerization? or publicity of mesmerization or something
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit |
u kno the gridin with the line with the ratio 4-3-2 what was the asnwer
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit |
I think I made fewer mistakes on the math than verbal. I'm hoping to break 1500. It would be really nice.
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit |
Hmm...sure about the slanted one?
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit |
publicity
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
•••• wasn't that one "inaccuracies...portray" or something like portray or embody
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
positive about the slanted one, and he suffered sacrifices
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
Yeah, I put he suffered because of the criticism directed at him.
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
Haruhara: I said suffered sacrifices
Hollaratme: 4
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
The author debunked traditional beliefs about the South and wrote about rich southern black women.
I can't remember the choices or the entire question but I do not recall putting slanted.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit |
I put 3 for that ratio grid-in but i really didn't know- i multiplied the ratio numbers by 1.5
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
Was it definitely alchemy? I thought that had to do more with chemistry.
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
Yea I thought it was something with inaccuracies...
Which section do you think was experimental?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
"the author showed the INACCURACY of southern stereotypes because he wrote about how there were many rich african americans that EMBODIED/PORTRAYED/other synonym wealth"
something like this
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
no, it was definately slanted, becuase he used celebratory images.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
alchemy- science of turning lead into gold...so im pretty sure
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
Yea I'm 100% sure about alchemy.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
4-3-2 answer I put was 4, although there may be others. (4 + 3 + 2)x = (number from 10 to 20, I picked 18)
9x = 18
x = 2
2x = 4
| By Bifff (Bifff) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
Does anyone remember the second to last question on the 15 minute math section. It was the question before the Regal Blue paint questions.
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
I remember putting "contradicted" for the South one.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
expiremental? when do u find out
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
if slanted was the answer, what was the other part? it was a two part blank question. i put the same thing as harahar
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
i could not be more positive that it's slanted - no other choices made more sense...key part of the sentence being ONLY WROTE ABOUT
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
you NEVER find out hollara. Thats why we are trying to find out now!
| By Barc202 (Barc202) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:29 pm: Edit |
does anyone remeber the section with the (a+b)(a-c)=Y and (a+b)(a-c)=Y and you have to find the intersection. is that the experimental section?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:29 pm: Edit |
thats not true cz look at march http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/sat/testday/highlights.html
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:29 pm: Edit |
Ilcapo, but it had TWO blanks. what blank did slanted go into, and what was the other word that went with it?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit |
i've never even seen "slanted" on the entire test, and i had experimental verbal (though i actually left the entire thing blank) so it was probably there, no?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit |
For the ratio grid-in question, did it say that just RS had to be an integer or the other line segments as well?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit |
i remember there being 2 parts to that one, ilcapo.
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit |
ha oh how i wish i could rememeber what the other blank was
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit |
Celebratory images? Maybe we are talking about different questions.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit |
"the author showed the SLANTED of southern stereotypes because he wrote about how there were many rich african americans that SLANTED/other synonym wealth"
doesnt make sense
Barc, that looks experimental cuz it has algebra 2, and i had extra math section and i dont even remember that one!
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit |
For the last 15 min math section- what were the possible lengths the the third side of the right triangle could be?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit |
good shrine - poking fun at the family's great interest with television
"perfect housewife" - elusive ideal
"pathological liar" - mean-spirited accusation
check me on these please
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit |
one QC wrong (#15) and the paint one...im filled with regret
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit |
i put between 8 and 10
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit |
lauren i put 8<x<10
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit |
haruhara - correct
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
I don't think it was mean-spirited, since the girl commented that her father didn't have a shelf of parenting books or go to college... so she probably thought of it as an "Understandable exaggeration" I think.
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
i dont think pathological was mean spiited accusation - i put understandable exaggeration or something......the other ones i put the same
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
DICKENS:
the very first one i put:
enthusiastic (or something like interested) to obsessed. check me please.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
for perfect housewife i put "public...something" s
| By Bifff (Bifff) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit |
hauhara= i thought the pathological liar question was an "understandable exaggeration" because the father didn't have a college education etc.
The rest I agree with
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit |
whoa this thread moves fast!
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit |
Did anyone get an answer other than 4 for the ratio grid-in?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit |
mixed signals... mean spirited or exaggeration? who knows... we need more confirmation. what about my other answer choices?
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit |
good shrine - poking fun at the family's great interest with television
YES
"perfect housewife" - elusive ideal
YES
"pathological liar" - mean-spirited accusation
NO--her father simply was in line with the times, but still loved her brother
The ? about dickens becoming obsessed is correct.
My questions:
question from the little girl passage:
A list of competing social pressures
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit |
for the fill in question that asked/
a number when reversed results in a number that is 18 more than the original number...
i got 2. Is that accpetable?
2nd to last question
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit |
so, what do you guys the scale will be for this test?
what would be the max for verbal and math to get a 700 on each?
| By Bifff (Bifff) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:37 pm: Edit |
Does anyone know the curve for this test?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:37 pm: Edit |
shh - i put 97, because i think it asked for the highest value possible
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
which one was expiremental if u had more verbal ahhh im going crazy
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
did anyone else get straight Bs for like 5 of the qualitative comparison questions? i think it was like 7-12 or something
| By Super6 (Super6) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
Haruhara...don't agree with "pathalogical liar"
I put "understandable exaggeration"
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
Shhh-
For the reserved results one, they wanted the greatest number less than 100, so the answer was 79. (97-79 = 18)
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
"pathological liar"- exaggeration
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
Shhh-
For the reversed results one, they wanted the greatest number less than 100, so the answer was 79. (97-79 = 18)
| By Mattlord (Mattlord) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit |
JUST RS had to be an integral length ;) for the line segment with pieces with lengths in the ratio 4:3:2
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:39 pm: Edit |
did you have the 2 really short passages? one was about medicine and the other about painting. and then a double passage on the mona lisa... that was experimental i think...theres never 2 double passages, are there?
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit |
Damn, I can't believe I got the music one wrong.
However, I'm certain that the one about rich black women was:
inaccuracy: (something I dno't remember)
Damn, I now know of 3 questions that I got wrong in verbal. How early can we find our scores?
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit |
I put inaccuracy for the southern black women one too, Davidrune.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
Lisa, that was experimental...
can you help me figure out the math experimental?
one of them had this big shape that asked u to find the area above 7..or something
and then the other one had an equilateral square inside an equilateral square.
B
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
i didnt have anything on the mona lisa i had somthin on time
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit |
i had the equaliteral inside equalitirel..dont remember the one with 7, so i guess that was experimental
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit |
Are you sure about the Dickenson-obsession one? What was the question?
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit |
im sorry about that -- it's exaggerated not mean spirited
AND PLEASE ELABORATE ON THE SLANT QUESTION that everyone says i did wrong lol
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
question from the little girl passage:
A list of competing social pressures
yea, you're right. The girl enumerates a list of the competing social pressures in her brother's life.
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
it was like..according to the first para, how did dickinsons views change i put enthusiasm to obsesssion. others put skepticism to advocacy
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
i had two verbal section that were analogies and sc and one cr one of them HAVE to be the expiremental right
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
thank god...!! the one with the big shape also had two isosoles triangles that were conjoined...unless if im confusing it with the 15 min section again
lauren, i also put obsession. it was like "how does he feel in the begining and the end of the first paragraph"
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:44 pm: Edit |
Oh yeah. I put skepticism to advocacy
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:44 pm: Edit |
hollar everyone got two verbal sections....
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:45 pm: Edit |
why would it be skepticism? he was never skeptical about it
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:45 pm: Edit |
For dickens, I put skepticism to advocacy, since I didn't really think he was obsessed with mesmerism, though I could well be wrong.
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:46 pm: Edit |
i put enthusiasm to obsession or something like that
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:46 pm: Edit |
I'm pretty sure the author portrayed the INACCURACY of the myths of Southern society by giving stories of rich black women that COTRADICTED the history... or whatever
| By Nycdebater (Nycdebater) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:47 pm: Edit |
eeeeeeekkkk...i think i screwed up this test entirely..ee
...ooo well i gotta another year..omg during da test there was construction goin on and ppl driving by every 5 seconds wit loud music and dam the school bell is sooo annoying and it kept ringing during the verbal section..and stupid lady leaves the door open while she can hear crazy noise outside..'ppl were on their break..we already were over wit it"..oo it was horrible..the one question i hated was the area question wit slanted blah blah
| By Ickyfoo (Ickyfoo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:47 pm: Edit |
LoL ambush:waylay
that must have been an experimental on my test from earlier this year or last spring because i remember that very clearly.
interesting.
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:48 pm: Edit |
It doesn't explicitly say he was skeptical, but it does say that he got rid of his "preconceived notions" about it and accepted it. This seems to imply that his preconceived notions were negative, and skeptical is an adjective that fits that criterion.
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:48 pm: Edit |
DICKENS:
the very first one i put:
enthusiastic (or something like interested) to obsessed. check me please.
******************************************
I think you are wrong. I put skeptical to (some positive word) b/c they had a quote in which Dickens said he was unsure of its affects at first, but then he realized his power. I'm almost certian I'm not hallucinating and think I'm correct.
| By Ickyfoo (Ickyfoo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:50 pm: Edit |
Mattlord- they just reused the whole test? it sounds extremely familiar to the one i took in april 03.
i never knew they would just reuse an entire test.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:51 pm: Edit |
so no one seems to remember having contradicted for the 2nd part of the african women one? I guess i got it wrong.
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:51 pm: Edit |
yes!!! thats it jenesaispas! i was rackin my brain tryna remember that\
good job
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:52 pm: Edit |
yes!!! thats it jenesaispas! i was rackin my brain tryna remember that\
good job
| By Emmittsmith (Emmittsmith) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:53 pm: Edit |
35 works also for the fill-in (where 79 is the popular answer)
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:54 pm: Edit |
ha i think i just went too fast with that question about the south ---- anyways, it's skepticism-->advocacy because they quoted dickens saying "all of my prior beliefs were wrong" or something like that
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:55 pm: Edit |
African Woman One:
inaccurate...contradicted
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit |
odd, I can't read new posts.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit |
odd, I can't read new posts.
| By Bifff (Bifff) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit |
I agree with Sulskman: For the Dickens, it was enthusiasm to obsessed beucause he first said "I am a beleiver" then he said "I deny all of my past beliefs (or something similar)" Mesmerism change his life and he became "obsessed".
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit |
Yeah, except it asked for the highest two-digit one, I believe.
Oh, and with the passages about time, in the first paragraph, the text after the semicolon was elaborating a concept or something?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
I'm pretty sure the author portrayed the INACCURACY of the myths of Southern society by giving stories of rich black women that COTRADICTED the history... or whatever
yes i put that too
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
can we make an AIM chat room to discuss this? i dont know how to link it everyone come to the chat called SAT
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
it said highest possible value though
| By Dolphinz33 (Dolphinz33) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
I talked to someone who had an extra verbal and she said she did not have the one with the floor question (150) section 5 for me! thank god that was expreimental!
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:58 pm: Edit |
35 does not work - they asked for the greastest number you could use
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:58 pm: Edit |
Thats what I put Jenesaispas, because it says its cyclical, then it goes on to back it up by explaining how.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:59 pm: Edit |
Was the verbal section with 2 tiny paragraphs with 2 questions each experimental?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:00 pm: Edit |
my tests was
section 1 verbal 30mins one passage
section 2 math 30 mins 25 question
section 3 verbal 30 mins 1 passage
section 4 math qc gridins
section 5 verbal 2 cr and sc and analogie 30 misn
section 6 15 min passage verbal
section 7 15 min math
WHICH ONE IS expiremental 1 or 3
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:00 pm: Edit |
DICKENS:
the very first one i put:
enthusiastic (or something like interested) to obsessed. check me please.
That isn't enthusiasm, because there is a quote from Dickens.
And he says something like "all my preconceptions are gone" so he was obviously skeptical at first and the only one that fits is:
skeptical::advocacy
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:02 pm: Edit |
it's got to be obsessed... he was never skeptical about mesmerization.
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:02 pm: Edit |
And I wouldn't say Dickens was obsessed by mesmerism... I mean, it's not like that became his full-time job. It was more of a hobby which he advocated.
| By Zoester (Zoester) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:03 pm: Edit |
The question before the paint one was a right triangle and the hypotenuse was 10. one of the side x was less than 6. It asked you for the all the possible values of y....
What was the answer?
i left it blank so i'm canceling it.
was the section with
the inscibed equilateral triangle in a circle asking for the distance from center P to one of the sides of the triangle in terms of the radius an experimental???
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:04 pm: Edit |
How early can we get our scores???
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit |
MAGIC SLATE compared to a COMPUTER SCREEN:
continuation of experience? (for the girl that secretly watched tv from the stairs passage)
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit |
May 14
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:09 pm: Edit |
Zoester- you're cancelling your test because you left one blank?!
Haruhara- I'm pretty convinced that it's skeptical to advocacy.
David- they'll be online in about 2 weeks.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:11 pm: Edit |
this post moves fast and I have to keep posting to read new posts.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:11 pm: Edit |
Zoestar: The answer to the range of y values was 8 < y < 10.
The circle/triangle one must have been experimental.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:11 pm: Edit |
Yes, I got continuation.
For the one about the Natives and time- what would the Mayans think about the American interpretation of time and progress?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:12 pm: Edit |
Davidrune: you can just refresh to read new posts.
When you refresh make sure you just refresh the inside frame and not the entire page. Also, make sure you have your browser set to retrieve the page from the server after every request (limited caching).
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:15 pm: Edit |
damn... LET"S GET A CONSENSUS:
DICKENS:
enthusiasm to obsession or skeptical to advocacy?
hair:follicle or finger:digit?
what about the one with doggerel:criticism? shoot i gotta remember that one...
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit |
I agree.
| By Micky (Micky) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:19 pm: Edit |
which section was the experimental if you have four verbal
section 1 - math
2- verbal
3- math
4- verbal
5- verbal
6- math
7- verbal
dickens, perfume, little girl w/ family, or 15 min topic?
is the 15 min ever experimental?
| By Dan62887 (Dan62887) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit |
The triangle where x<6, wasnt the answer 10<y<16? Because the hypotenuse was 10, and x could potentially be .001 or something very small- therefore the y value would have to be at least 10 so that x+y could be greater than the third side, right?
| By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit |
please help with doggerel:criticism? i can't remember the question or the other answer choice it was between.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:22 pm: Edit |
Dan... logically because the hypotenuse was 10, there is no way that y could be 16.
The hypotenuse is defined as the longest length in a triangle. The answer was 8<y<10.
Because y has to be less than the hypotenuse and it has to be greater than 8. "8" is the number you get if x =6, but it's less than 6 so y is greater than 8.
| By Bubbloy (Bubbloy) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:22 pm: Edit |
hair:follicle, as i know it, the incisor is the wishbone kind of thing at the top of the tooth.
As to the slant problem, the slope of the roof is -1/5 so to go from 5 ft to 6 ft you must span 5 horizontal feet, the shed length stays the same so 15-5=10. 10*15=150. the area of the floor under 6< roof.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:23 pm: Edit |
Dickens:
skeptical to advocacy: it clearly stated that he was unsure before he saw Eliotson perform and then he became an advocate and hired him as the family doctor.
finger:digit: A finger is a type of digit (human finger or toe) and an incisor is a type of tooth. A hair is NOT a type of follicle. A follicle is the depression from which a hair grows.
The answer for vignette : brief was memoir : personal. A vignette is a brief piece of writing just as a memoir is a personal piece of writing. A doggerel, however, need not be critical -- only crudely fashioned and often humourous or sophomoric.
| By Philip87 (Philip87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:23 pm: Edit |
Dickens said in the quote, 'I am a believer. I've turned against all of my old suspicions and doubts.' So it was most likely 'skepticism, advocacy' or whatever that choice was.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:25 pm: Edit |
How bad does it look if your SAT scores decrease the second time you take it? Should I cancel to be safe or risk it?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:27 pm: Edit |
was the slant problem experimental bubbleboy?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:28 pm: Edit |
The slant problem was not experimental -- I've seen it before (on PSAT, SAT, or SAT experimental).
| By Shaman88 (Shaman88) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:29 pm: Edit |
Was the section of the Dickens passage experimental? I hope it was.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:30 pm: Edit |
was it the one with the big shape?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:30 pm: Edit |
I don't think Dickens was experimental either -- I've also seen it before.
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:30 pm: Edit |
Big shape?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit |
dickens was not experimental
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:32 pm: Edit |
it was triangular rectangularish and i think C was 180...
u had to find the area of some part of it and all the answers were 3 digit numbers.
is that the slant problem u are talking about?
S5 for me
| By Philip87 (Philip87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:33 pm: Edit |
From dictionary.com:
Finger- One of the five digits of the hand, especially one other than the thumb.
Incisor- Tooth adapted for cutting or gnawing, located at the front of the mouth along the apex of the dental arch.
Follicle- A crypt or minute cul-de-sac or lacuna, such as the depression in the skin from which the hair emerges.
A finger is a type of digit, an incisor is a type of tooth, and a hair is definitely not a type of follicle.
| By Doubleg326 (Doubleg326) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit |
The Dickens passage wasn't experimental since I had it on mine and it was my 3rd verbal section. Mine was:
Section 1: Math
Section 2: Verbal
Section 3: Math
Section 4: Verbal
Section 5: Math
Section 6: Math
Section 7: Verbal
Do you think Section 5 was the experimental? I really hope so, since that was the only math section I had a lot of difficulty with. The verbal was pretty tough...
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit |
The "big shape" was a shed? Dimensions were in feet, you had to find a floor area with a constraint?
If this is the question, it's not experimental.
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:39 pm: Edit |
I definitely don't remember any question about the South or slanted. What other questions were near it?
| By Doubleg326 (Doubleg326) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:40 pm: Edit |
I think the shed problem was in the final math section (6 for me) so I don't think it was experimental, or at least I hope it wasn't. BTW, that was the only one I omitted on that section.
| By Cooldude (Cooldude) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:41 pm: Edit |
somebody asked for this earlier!!
the probability question: the answer is 3/16
3 common letters E,A,T
so the probability that both will be E is 1/4*1/4=1/16
same for A,T and then add since it has be either one of them. === 3/16
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:42 pm: Edit |
Anyone remember a question about objectivity as an answer choice? I don't remember if I put that or another one. I'm starting to forget everything...
Also, on the "varying views" of time question, on the question referring to how the Indians would view the Western view of time, did anyone get "a misconception" or something like that?
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:43 pm: Edit |
yea, objectivity was the answer to one question.
The girl that used to watch her parents, learnt to be objective.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:46 pm: Edit |
Gotta, it was in section 5, yes thats the one! damn it!?!!!
but how could it be, i asked pepple questions in section 1 and they said they had it, so i figured section 5 was experimental
unless if im mistaking it with the last section again, which i probably am
| By Mhawk177 (Mhawk177) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:49 pm: Edit |
It was skeptism to advocacy, he later renounced his original skeptisism. I had 2880 on the one, although Im not sure on that one... so far according to this passage things sound good... I had the 10*15.. because of the slope. Also, I remember the social pressures one. Overall I didnt think this test was too hard. Oh yeah and 3.5 for the paint one.. in reference to the comparing passages I thought that was easily the hardest part of the test.
| By Emmittsmith (Emmittsmith) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
The one with 2 pairs of people from 6.
why wouldn't 6*5 = 30 work?
I did 6 C 2, and got 15, but I decided to go with 30 (gut instinct I guess)
| By Philip87 (Philip87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit |
Let's call the volunteers by the letters A-F. If you just multiply six times five, you count A in the first slot and B in the second as a different combination than B in the first slot and A in the second. So you essentially did a permutation instead of a combination.
| By Dkm (Dkm) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:09 pm: Edit |
did all of u guys have the equalatrial traiangle question where u had one traingle inside the other
i hope that was not the experimental
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:14 pm: Edit |
i hope not too, that section was soooo easy
it was section 1 for me
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit |
analogies:
cliche:originality
stand:music
strawberry: fruit
air:tornado
finger: digit
tie:knot
vaccine:immunize
sentence completion:
disparage, belitte
castigate
cacophony
affability
alchemy
pander, insight
critical reading:
precise formula
continuity of experience
assumes her family is like general public
adult-not supposed to hear
time is influenced by western civilizations or history whatever
the hynotizing guy thinks it will give him prestige
problem solving:
paint - 9
BEST EAST - 15
small triangle, large triangle perimeter - 18
grid-in:
8800
57
neone else get these answers?
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:21 pm: Edit |
yea, that was soo freaking easy.
The answer was 12root(3), I think..
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:22 pm: Edit |
What was the pander, insight question?
Also, for the adult one, what were the other choices? I think I might have put "things she doesn't understand"
| By Medadu (Medadu) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:31 pm: Edit |
The inscribed equilateral triangle question:
RS=12 is the hypotenuse of the 30-60-90, the side across from the 60 was the leg of the inscribed triangle. So the length was 12*sin(60), which is the same as 6rt(3)
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:35 pm: Edit |
poop i was gonna put tie:knot but put something else instead....cant remember it though
| By Nahbia (Nahbia) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:36 pm: Edit |
For everyone that had Math then verbal (the first 2) with extra verbal...doesn't section 5 HAVE to be the experimental verbal...the passages (for me at least) there were 3, and 2 of them were liek the shortest things EVER, liek 50 words or less...there's no way that would be the real thing?
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit |
Tie::knot
Don't think it's correct... I think its Mired:Mud
Hypto. will give Dickens manipulitive powers...not prestige
Pander...insight
Don't think that's right either...it's escapism.
On the math, the paint problem isn't 9, its 3.5.
Anyone remember the gorilla sentence completion?
| By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:45 pm: Edit |
Stephenpmi- what was the question for pander...insight?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:45 pm: Edit |
Nahbia, sounds experimental to me. i had no short passages
step, yes thats what i put, mud...
and in the paint problem, was one of the options 4.5? cuz i remember putting a .5 but dont know if it was 3.5 or 4.5
| By Paulhomework (Paulhomework) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit |
Does anyone remember the answers to QC ? no one has really discussed those. these are the ones i remember:
C (x=y +5 )
B (x = 4 / y) --> x > y > 0 (B was 3, A was y)
| By Shs_Geek (Shs_Geek) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit |
does anyone remember the math question that was x^2 + kx + 3 where k was a negative interger and then it asked for possible answers for x? i got two different answers...i got that it could be either -3 or -1
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:52 pm: Edit |
i put D. 1
paul i got the same as u for both
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
what was the answer for the weed:plant analogy, was it pest:insect
and what was the one for melodious:sound?
| By Cooldude (Cooldude) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit |
actually u get (x-3)(x-1)
so x=1,3
3 is not an option hence 1 is the answer
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:55 pm: Edit |
The movie lacked profoundness but __________ to an occasional desire for __________.
provided for (or something like that)....escapism
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:55 pm: Edit |
dont remember weed: plant at all...
i put fragrant: smell
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:56 pm: Edit |
i need, that sounds experimental cuz i dont remember it at all
'
it seems right though
| By Tanman (Tanman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:56 pm: Edit |
I dont know if anyone has posted this yet but if you're trying to figure out what section was experimental, since this test was (apparently) a repeat of the April 2003, go to google and search "April 2003 SAT report"
| By Neilsshah (Neilsshah) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit |
melodious:sound = fragrant:smell (not sure on exact wording)
also, for the x^2 + kx + 3 question I got 1 because 1^2 + -4(1) + 3 = 0
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:59 pm: Edit |
http://www.princetonreview.com/college/testprep/testprep.asp?TPRPAGE=373&TYPE=SAT,http://www.princetonreview.com/college/testprep/testprep.asp?TPRPAGE=373&TYPE=SAT
THANK YOU GOD!!!
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 03:59 pm: Edit |
x^2 + (-k)x + 3 = 0
1^2 = (-4)1 + 3 = 0
x=1
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:02 pm: Edit |
What was on Section 3 (Verbal first) or Section 5 (math first), the supposed "Experimental Section". I can't remember.
| By Paulhomework (Paulhomework) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:06 pm: Edit |
i still can't $%Q$%#@ believe they used the same test. Is it a common practice? If it is, then that's just stupid and i basically blame on myself for not knowing they repeat tests even from last year.
If not, then someone has to sue the college board. It's just unfair advantage for those who have taken the April 2003 or who have reviewed the questions that were on that test.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:06 pm: Edit |
step, go to the link i sent, it tells u the experimental sections
| By Bard (Bard) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:08 pm: Edit |
"The topics on the passages included a memoir of a writer's family, an account of Charles Dickens' fascination with mesmerism, one on perfume and a double passage on concepts of time."
which one was experimental?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:10 pm: Edit |
the one that they didnt describe bard
| By Bard (Bard) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:11 pm: Edit |
do u remember which one that is?
| By Bard (Bard) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:11 pm: Edit |
do u remember which one that is?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:12 pm: Edit |
mona lisaaaaa
| By Sticksandstones (Sticksandstones) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:15 pm: Edit |
i dint't get the mona lisa one. was it a 30-min section
| By Bard (Bard) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:15 pm: Edit |
i dont remember mona list, lisa can u tell us what that one was about?
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:16 pm: Edit |
it was different for everyone bard..
i hear its section 3
| By Sticksandstones (Sticksandstones) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:20 pm: Edit |
i had so many bubbles where there were 3 B's or C's in a row. I freaked out everytime it happeened and went back to check anwers to see if i hadn't messed up and lost time.
ETS IS MESSING WITH MY HEAD!!!!
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:22 pm: Edit |
My section 3 had 2 short readings (only a paragraph a piece) and one longer one.
However, my friend told me that the princeton review gave him a memo in his prep class that the jan or march exam had short readings and it wasn't the experimental, so i took it seriously.
| By Dolphinz33 (Dolphinz33) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:25 pm: Edit |
where can you find the curve for april 2003?
| By So_Cal_Ib (So_Cal_Ib) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:29 pm: Edit |
the experimental verbal had small passages i think
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:30 pm: Edit |
just as a heads up: my experimental was about some woman, betteredge who had to write a story about her family's lost diamond == that section also only had about 8 analogies so i knew it was experimental
does anyone remember any analogies in this section cause they were very hard
| By Lilmeariane (Lilmeariane) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:34 pm: Edit |
i agree that section 5 if you had math first, thank god cuz i left the last 5 blank; the problems took way too long.
overall the math for me was bad, but verbal was very good.
| By Sticksandstones (Sticksandstones) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:35 pm: Edit |
since i am a sophmore and took this test today, will colleges care much about this score or the "new" SAT score which i'll be taking next year.
| By Doubleg326 (Doubleg326) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:38 pm: Edit |
If it is guaranteed that Section 5 (Math) was experimental (P.R. said so, but it could change this time...though I doubt it) then I am relieved!!!!
| By Dan62887 (Dan62887) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:43 pm: Edit |
The question with the triangle hypotenuse=10, x<6- does anyone remember if this was on the experimental section?
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit |
does anyone know if an experiemntal section was one about some lady and her enamel box?
| By Marchguy (Marchguy) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:59 pm: Edit |
I put 9 on paint problem..
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 04:59 pm: Edit |
Dan62887: it wasn't experimental and the answer was 8<x<10
Calidan: i think that was the experimental section, i had that one
| By Dolphinz33 (Dolphinz33) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit |
The curve from april 2003
math
60 800
59 800
58 780
57 760
56 740
55 730
54 720
53 710
verbal
78 800
77 800
76 800
75 790
74 770
73 760
72 750
71 ___
70 720
69 ___
68 ___
67 ___
66 700
65 ___
64 ___
63 670
| By Marchguy (Marchguy) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit |
isn't it 9?
...
..
am i scruued ?
so, anyway,
do you think math section was easy? or as usual?
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:11 pm: Edit |
I thought the analogies and sentence completions were fairly easy, but critical reading was kinda tricky. Math was okay (it was all doable, I just didn't have a lot of time to do it all out), but the quantative comparisons were kind of ambiguous and a little difficult. That's what I though of the test! 
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit |
Marchguy: for the paint problem, here are some things to keep in mind:
blue makes up 1/3 of the royal violet (or whatever it's called)
blue makes up 3/8 of the lime green (or whatever it's called)
the recipe for the amazon color makes 5 quarts and the question asks for 10 quarts
Here is how it's done:
1) 5 quarts of Amazon is 3 quarts violet (which is 1/3 blue) and 2 quarts lime (which is 3/8 blue)
2) Amazon is therefore 3*(1/3) + 2*(3/8) , or 1.75
3) 10 quarts is double this, or 3.5 quarts
| By Dan62887 (Dan62887) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:18 pm: Edit |
Judging by some posts made about the April 2003 SAT, I don't think we had the same math section. It appears the we only had the same verbal. Anyone know more about this?
| By Rishia (Rishia) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:27 pm: Edit |
For the Quantative Comparison did anybody get D for the one that was like said when 2k+1 is divided by 3 the remainder was x? Then the answer compared x with 1.
| By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:28 pm: Edit |
For this one:
C (x=y +5 )
B (x = 4 / y) --> x > y > 0 (B was 3, A was y)
**I put B was larger because Y had to be a decimal for it to work I think
Hey guys heres another I remember:
something like this: The man had a ____ voice ; it was deep and good for annoucing. (I put sonorous)
Also my test went like this:
verbal
math
math
math
verbal
verbal
math
| By Neilsshah (Neilsshah) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:32 pm: Edit |
I got D for that question, Rishia.
Mychocopie I got sonorous for that question too.
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit |
for the qc with x=4/y , 3 was greater than y (choice b i think) because:
x=4/y
xy=4
the geometric mean of x and y is therefore sqrt4, or 2
since x>y>0, x is greater than 2 and y is less than 2
therefore, 2>y>0 which means y < 3
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit |
Did anyone else get as their experimental verbal passage about some butler who stole some diamond. I'm almost sure it wasn't scorred. But I want some opinions b/c it was such a weird passage and I couldn't make sense of it. If you didn't have that, what was your verbal experimental about
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
yes i had that experimental passage and it was very strange, it looked like a normal passage but it wasnt haha - it was british sounding and there was a mistake in it
| By Neophyte31 (Neophyte31) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
How did some of you guys get the perfume question as being precise..
the guy said.. you could mix 4 or 5 or 100 themes to something..
so since you could mix 4 or 5 or 100, it wasn't really precise?
I think I put it anecdote or routine command (was that even one of them)?
some analogies I'm sure of:
fragrant:smell
finger:digit
stand:music
swindler:defraud
impassive:flinch
what was the answer to salt:condiment?
also, on the dickens faraday question, what was similar between the two?
methods? harnessing powerful forces?
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit |
CURVE?
max for 700 on each section?
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:29 pm: Edit |
What's a curve??? LOL
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:32 pm: Edit |
lets clear up the perfume question...
ROUTINE COMMAND
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:37 pm: Edit |
what was "routine command" an answer to? do you remember the question?
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:37 pm: Edit |
Was it that or humorous recipe?
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit |
It was about... what is this meaning, "To make a perfume you take three or four or hundreds of ingedients and add a perfumer."
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit |
im almost positive it was humorous recipe. think about it...all you need it 3 or 4 parts, and a perfumer? obviously, without the last element you can't do it. most of us arent perfumers (if im correct that a perfumer is actually the person who concocts the solution). thats what made it funny. he led us on to believe that we could do it ourselves, then slips in at the end the last element we have no way of having.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
the definition of perfumer: one who makes or sells perfumes.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit |
i totally disagree that it was routine command. becuase its not routine at all. the process is routine to those that have done it for years and years. but to make it seem routine to us would debase the sheer complexity of it. so the author has no reason to make it seem routine at all.
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:47 pm: Edit |
your right - its humorous recipe
good argument vas
damn
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:48 pm: Edit |
gracias.
| By E_L (E_L) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit |
Neophyte31,
I put harnessing powerful forces. Some messages above also say that.
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:50 pm: Edit |
how many wrong do you think someone can get wrong on each section and still get a 700 each?
| By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 06:57 pm: Edit |
I'm pretty sure it's humorous recipe, but I put ruitine command. Here's my rationale. I eliminated all the others because they were not the right answer and I was tempted to pick humorous recipe, but I didn't find the line funny. I picked ruitine command almost to spite ETS for making such an un-funny sentence. But the reason it's "humorous" is not because you need 3 or 4 parts and a perfumer as some have alluded to, it's "humorous" because you can make a perfume with 3, or 4, or 2000 parts. Read the last sentence again and put an emphasis on the word "or"...you'll catch the "humor". ETS can bite me, though.
Oh, and one more thing. I am officially the only kid in the country that didn't know that a finger is called a digit. Still shooting for 750+ verbal, though. Got finger:digit, impassive:flinch, and humorous recipe wrong so far.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:13 pm: Edit |
hey man, im with you -- had no idea finger was a digit. where did that come from?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:16 pm: Edit |
Did anyone have a math section where the last question asked you to find the perimeter of a quadrilateral formed inside a pyramid?
It was in section 5 which I guess is the one we think is experimental but i'm just wondering.
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
i thought a digit was a number so i eliminated that one first?
and yes im an idiot
| By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
That was on my test, but it was experimental (the quadrilateral thing).
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit |
Is this equilateral triangle within a larger equilateral triangle the one where the side length of the larger was 12?
What did everyone put for the answer?
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit |
"Did anyone have a math section where the last question asked you to find the perimeter of a quadrilateral formed inside a pyramid?
It was in section 5 which I guess is the one we think is experimental but i'm just wondering."
yeah, that was definately exp. due to what i've read and my test
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:20 pm: Edit |
i put down the answer with 10.3 or something like that
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:22 pm: Edit |
10.3 for the equilateral triangle one? Is that the decimal equivalent of one of the answers?
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit |
yeah
| By Neilsshah (Neilsshah) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:24 pm: Edit |
I am pretty sure the answer to the equilateral triangle question was 12root(3), or letter E.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:25 pm: Edit |
yay! that's what I put too...12root3!
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:38 pm: Edit |
yay! me too
| By Justperfect (Justperfect) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:39 pm: Edit |
some hs. friends told me that they had a verbal part that they thought was expieimental that talked about movies of some sort.(harry pottery,shrek etc) they wanted to know if it was any help would help them. they said it was like 10 lines at the most...
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:40 pm: Edit |
yeah, i had that exp too
the other reading passage was about black holes
| By Justperfect (Justperfect) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit |
thank you, and i hope all are satified with their scores and that they fix the double test deliemma.how many of you also took the april test.....?
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 07:58 pm: Edit |
Some random answers
1. 8/x for the miles per gallon
2. 48 for the triangle one in section 1.It was an earlier question
3. Only 1 and 3 for number 4 on section 1.
4. 12.5 yards the girl has to run.
5. I remember putting "c" for te slant one. Can anyone remember what that answer was?
6.I remember putting four "d"s for the quant. coms
7. 12+8sqrt3 for the triangle one. Was it experimental?
8. 48 percent of y for a queston.
9. 8800 for the numer of miles question
10. 15 combinations
11. 35 Degrees
12. as the slope one "C"?
Thats all I can think of
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:10 pm: Edit |
okay. does anyone remember the answers they put for the maya/kiowa native american time passage? im so worried about this section.
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:32 pm: Edit |
OMG I really didn't like that section. I think I did really badly. That was the one about time and how were all about progress or something? I don't really remember any of the questions, but for the last question I said that the author of passage 1 would be "open" (or something along those lines) to the ending of passage 2. Does that make sense? I don't remember. I'm going crazy. 
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:33 pm: Edit |
I hear that's the experimental section, coz a few of my frendz din't have that passage.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:34 pm: Edit |
really? would they really have the 13 verbal section be experimental? have they ever done that?
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit |
Whatever the case, I have found the online answer key for that passage and I got a 100%
:-D.
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:37 pm: Edit |
By the way, I think they have done it before.
I think the last time a 13 question verbal section was an experimental was last years April 2003 test.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:38 pm: Edit |
can you post the link to that online answer key?
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:41 pm: Edit |
I am not able to do that, I have access only because I know someone who works in adjunct with Collegeboard.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:42 pm: Edit |
could you post the answers, then?
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:43 pm: Edit |
so that i can either sleep or plan for my suicide tonigt
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:44 pm: Edit |
That's really too bad, you'll find out when you're supposed to.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:45 pm: Edit |
well how confident are you that this could have been the experimental section?
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:46 pm: Edit |
it's not the experimential, the ones with the tiny little readings were, I'm 100% sure it was NOT experimental
| By Binarystar (Binarystar) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:47 pm: Edit |
What is this about the May 2004 SAT I being the same one as the April 2003 one? If it has been asked/covered already, I apologize. I don't want to read 350+ posts.
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:47 pm: Edit |
Well, my answer key says on top "EXPERIMENTAL," and my source also tells me thatit was the short verbal section which was experimental.
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:47 pm: Edit |
i had a verbal section with 2 really short paragraphs with 2 questions for each, and then a normal passage....was this experimental?
cuz in dec or something the paragraph section counted as the real thing..
also what do u expect the curve to be?
likeee what do u think i should have gotten if..
math omitted 4 maybe 1 wrong
verbal possibly 5-10 wrong omitted 4
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:49 pm: Edit |
LOL! GOD!
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:49 pm: Edit |
it definitely was-- they wouldn't have that setion not be-- otherwise, they'd have two long analogy sections count and they would not have a 13 question reading section count-- it would throw off the balance of the verbal part of the test-- trust me, the native american passage WAS NOT experimental
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:50 pm: Edit |
and I think Kitman15 is bs'ing about all of this
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:52 pm: Edit |
well, since i've obviously been had by this charlatan, can we all confer on possible answers for that passage?
| By Kitman15 (Kitman15) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:52 pm: Edit |
Okay, I talked to my source it seems as if he gave me the wrong answer key. Sorry Guys!
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:53 pm: Edit |
i know for a fact that the little passages were experimental. i had an extra math section and did not have any little passages
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:53 pm: Edit |
your "source", lol
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:54 pm: Edit |
to tell you the truth, I kind of ran out of time by the end, can you refresh me a bit about the questions, I don't really remember them
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:55 pm: Edit |
ohhh u mean the 10 min one...no that was not experimental. I actually liked that one, though i thnk the last 3 were hard
but i likeit, time, cycle, fun
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 08:59 pm: Edit |
Answer Key??? WHERE???
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:06 pm: Edit |
now that we have established almost every answer to any considerably hard question....lets get to the scoring
math omitted 4 maybe 1 wrong
lets say 7 wrong to be safe and omitted 4
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:07 pm: Edit |
any ideas? do u think i got a 1400 combined? i dont wanna go down i got a 1360 last time
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:08 pm: Edit |
oh and another comment.........if they constantly use pst SATs then why the HECK dont we just gather them all from the past 2 or 3 years and study them like hell? r they unattainable?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:28 pm: Edit |
What was the question for the answer than is 35 degrees?
Was the problem about the two girls running in 10 question math section?
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:35 pm: Edit |
for the paint problem was the formula thing for each color 10 quarts? it didnt say...i looked for about 5 minutes..damnit.. also
8/x miles per gallon
weight of container--4
for the adult question she wasnt even supposed to be on the stairs, therefore she was not supposed to hear what they were talking about. she said her brother asked for money or to sleepover, nothing a child wouldnt understand
so maii first section was math i think, i know for sure maii 2nd section was verbal..so was maii experimental section math or verbal, and if so, which one was it could u name a specific problem?
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:36 pm: Edit |
i dont remember having a problem with 2 grls running..
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:38 pm: Edit |
how come nobody is talking about the time passages?
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:41 pm: Edit |
for the months of snowfall was it 75% or something? and the one with the renovations in airport i got d..like concession stands maiibe?
sorrie im posting so much..i just keep remembering stuff haha
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
Math: Omitted: 1, Wrong: 7
Verbal: Omitted: 0, Wrong: 6
That's my (hopefully) worst possible scenario!
What is that? Like a 1400 or something? 
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:48 pm: Edit |
Did anyone have a question about one line intersecting a line at an angle of 32 degrees or something and then needing to find the angle of intersection for a line perpendicular to this?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:48 pm: Edit |
Did anyone have a question about one line intersecting a line at an angle of 32 degrees or something and then needing to find the angle of intersection for a line perpendicular to this?
| By Stephenpmi (Stephenpmi) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit |
Don't remember the renovations in the airport, I think the snowfall percentage you have is correct. For the miles per gallon, I don't know...the question was phrased kind of funny. Maybe someone remembers...
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit |
the girls favorite color is red
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit |
the girls favorite color is red
| By Poop (Poop) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:07 pm: Edit |
the girls favorite lollipop color is red
does anyone remember having the third side of the triangle 8<x<10
300 points at the sports club, 20 for something, 30 for something, 40 for sweatshirt, he wants at least one of each, wuts the most number of sweatshirts he can get? i got 6
| By Student8712 (Student8712) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:14 pm: Edit |
Yes it was 8<x<10
I didn't have the lollipop or the sweatshirt questions
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:31 pm: Edit |
Finger: Digit is not the answer IMO
Incisor is TYPE of tooth, not another name for it. So, hair is TYPE of follicale.
And I concur on 8<x<10
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:48 pm: Edit |
Hair is NOT a type of follicle. A follicle is a depression from which hair grows.
Yes, an incisor is a type of tooth but a finger is a type of digit.
According to Merriam Webster Dictionary, WordNet, and the American Heritage Dictionary a digit is a human finger or toe or a corresponding part in another animal. A synonym for digit is dactyl.
Also, several incorrect answers have been posted above and have not been corrected -- anyone who reads this should take the information found here with a grain of salt (strawberry is a fruit). I would correct them but I am too tired and don't care enough. :-P
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 10:51 pm: Edit |
for the last 15 min math section, what did you get for the function question. what was X?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:20 pm: Edit |
function question?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:26 pm: Edit |
OH! The question that said x $ x = x where $ is an operator that returns a^2/(a^2 + b^2)? The question states that X can't be 0 so the answer must be 1/2.
x^2/(x^2 + x^2) = 1/2
(1/2)^2/((1/2)^2 + (1/2)^2) = (1/4)/(1/4 + 1/4) = 2/4 = 1/2
| By Dolphinz33 (Dolphinz33) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:27 pm: Edit |
8<x<10
that was an experimental section so dont fret...
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:32 pm: Edit |
no dolphin it was not. i had that question and my verbal was experimental
| By Bifff (Bifff) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:36 pm: Edit |
Does anyone know the curve for this test?
What would like 4-5 wrong on math and 4-5 wrong on verbal give me?
| By Tallyrand (Tallyrand) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 11:59 pm: Edit |
Right-o. So which math section was experimental? It wasn't the quantitative comparisons one. It wasn't the 8<x<10 (go me! I put that) one. So it must have been the second one for those of us who had the verbal, math, math, math, verbal, verbal, math pattern. Or at least that's my logic. Right? 'Tis a shame because that section was easy...
And it is finger:digit. Rawk.
| By Nike1800 (Nike1800) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:13 am: Edit |
just for anyone asking for the BEST and EAST one:
B | E A S T = BE BA BS BT (no matches)
E | E A S T = [EE] EA ES ET (1 match)
S | E A S T = SE SA [SS] ST (1 match)
T | E A S T = TE TA TS [TT] (1 match)
Since there are 3 matches, and sixteen possible ways, the probability is 3/16
| By Lindseylujh (Lindseylujh) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:23 am: Edit |
The order of my test was: Math, Verbal, Math (Quant. Comparison), Verbal, Math, Math, Verbal. My guess (and hope) was that section 5 was the experimental. Was that the case? I think it included finding the side of a triangle inscribed in a cube (could have been the last section though) and I'm positive it included the question with the circle, and an isoceles triangle half inside of it, with the equal sides being the length of radii. The one angle given was 70. I think people above said the answer was 35.
Do we know yet if this was the experimental section?
I think it was because I saw others discussing the section in which the last problem was a equilateral triangle inscribed in another equilateral triangle, with the side of the larger being 12.
Is that correct reasoning?
| By Tallyrand (Tallyrand) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:41 am: Edit |
Did your section 5 end with a question involving equilateral triangles?
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:43 am: Edit |
Oh! I remembered a math question that was very odd. The question was about what type of device a person would use to represent proportions of income and where that income goes (medical, food, gas, etc.).
The answers were
Circle Graph
Line Graph
Something else
Pictogram
Table
I have no idea what a "circle graph" is. I assumed they meant "pie chart" and I marked that one as it was the only option that made sense when representing proportions. This bothered me.
Any insight would be appreciated.
| By Poop (Poop) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:47 am: Edit |
neone remember nemore analogies?
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:10 am: Edit |
I still don't think there is a FINAL answer on this: is the correct answer to that infamous analogy "uncropped:trim" or "impassive:flinch?" Anyone? Please? I'm going crazy...
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:11 am: Edit |
double post...heh...
| By Lindseylujh (Lindseylujh) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:30 am: Edit |
Tallyrand - I don't think so, but I know my section one did.
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:44 am: Edit |
I don't think this will end the debate, but I put "impassive:flinch". I only expect a 600-650 or so on the verbal, so take my answer for what it's worth.
| By So_Cal_Ib (So_Cal_Ib) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:47 am: Edit |
if i missed 10-15 verbal what would my score be? anyone know?
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:00 am: Edit |
probably 680 or so
| By So_Cal_Ib (So_Cal_Ib) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:06 am: Edit |
thanks
was the experimental verbal the one with the small passages (im not sure but did anyone else get the one with blackholes and something about movies)
i also havent seen anything on this thread, or at least much, about the double passage about time (haha most confusing thing ive read in a loong time)
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:13 am: Edit |
No movies and black holes for me. I didn't think the time passage was very difficuly. Maybe that's because I actually found it...interesting! Did you have a passage about a butler possibly stealing something?
| By So_Cal_Ib (So_Cal_Ib) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:57 am: Edit |
no i didnt
i think the regular test was
Charles Dickens Passage (mesmerism)
Time Passage
Girl on Stairs
then my experimetnal verbal with three passages (2 small paragrpahs + 1 essay on something...forget what)
| By Madfoxmadfox (Madfoxmadfox) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:56 am: Edit |
When are the scores available online?
| By Madfoxmadfox (Madfoxmadfox) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:56 am: Edit |
When are the scores available online?
| By Neophyte31 (Neophyte31) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:53 am: Edit |
madfox, scores are available May 14.
| By Medadu (Medadu) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:14 am: Edit |
The answer to the equilateral triangle is (D) 6rt3. The reason is because the hypotenuse of the 30-60-90 triangle formed was 12. The leg of the smaller equilateral was across from the angle 60. So the length of that leg would have to be 12sin60, which is equivalent to 12rt(3)/2, which simplifies to 6rt3.
| By Narcissus (Narcissus) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:23 am: Edit |
RE the Circle Graph question: I definitely had an experimental math section, but that problem never showed up for me.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:24 am: Edit |
what the perfume one expiremental?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:48 am: Edit |
Still wondering if section 5 math was experimental...
Everyone remembers having a question #25 about an equilateral triangle within a larger equilateral triangle, right?
And a question about finding the decrease in snowfall, and the number that makes 3^5 * 5^3 *7^4 (or something like that) a square?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:53 am: Edit |
yea bianchi i had all those and i had verbal experimental
And a question about finding the decrease in snowfall, and the number that makes 3^5 * 5^3 *7^4 (or something like that) a square?
^^what was the answer to that?
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:55 am: Edit |
I believe it was 15
| By Vapajude87 (Vapajude87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:02 am: Edit |
Not many people here who have taken the SAT with the 3 math sections in a row (sections 2, 3, 4) have responded...which one was the experimental? I think it's already been discussed, but I can confirm that the verbal sections containing these passages were the ones that counted:
-time
-girl/stairs
-perfume & dickins (i think these two were in the same section, right?)
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:23 am: Edit |
can sum1 pleaseeee respond to my old post where i was wonder a possibility for my score? please? i slept on it and still no one answered
lets repeat...
math- 4 omitted 1 wrong i think
verbal 4 omitted 6-7 wrong
thank u those u respond
| By Barc202 (Barc202) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:27 am: Edit |
vapajude, i had the test with 3 math in a row too and i think section 3 is the experimental
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:31 am: Edit |
The curve for the April 2003 test is above! It should be pretty much the same. Besides, I don't think anyone on this board can give you an exact response. Will it really matter if you find out now, which would be horribly unreliable, or in a couple of weeks?
But, if you really want to know, it looks like, based on the scores you gave:
Math 730 and Verbal 700...
but that is just a rough approximation based on the above curve data.
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:32 am: Edit |
Melissa, that looks like 700 verbal/730 math
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:34 am: Edit |
Verbal
Questions Right Questions Wrong Raw Score Rounded Scaled
78 0 78 78 800
77 1 76.75 77 800
76 2 75.5 76 800
75 3 74.25 74 770
74 4 73 73 760
73 5 71.75 72 750
72 6 70.5 71 750
71 7 69.25 69 720
70 8 68 68 720
69 9 66.75 67 720
68 10 65.5 66 700
67 11 64.25 64 700
66 12 63 63 670
Note:I could only get this to work with Verbal and if no questions were omitted.
| By Melissamelissa (Melissamelissa) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:34 am: Edit |
yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss.....thank you!
all i needed was a little approx..thanks
| By Enarang (Enarang) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:01 am: Edit |
Any final answers on the CR. Dicken's mesmerize thing. Skepticisim to Objectivity?
Girl: Continuity of expression or nostalgia?
Routine Command or humor?
Maya Time one (that sucked)
Girl on stairs: Undertandable Exxageration?
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:18 am: Edit |
Did anyone get "it underscored the connection between perfume and love" for the first CR question on perfume.
I put ___ to advocacy.
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:21 am: Edit |
hey anjin i put the thing about cleopatra and love
i'm sooo sure that one was continuity of expression...andunderstandable exaggeration...and i put enthusiasm to obession, but i think that was wrong
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:28 am: Edit |
yeah, for the last one I put skepticism to advocacy
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:49 am: Edit |
did anyone get "wry" for an answer and "earnest" for an answer (one of those might be in my experimental)
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:53 am: Edit |
"hey anjin i put the thing about cleopatra and love "
Was that the same thing as the answer I put, which was it underscored the connection between perfume and something else.
How much would 10-12 wrong on verbal and 2-4 wrong, 1 omit on math be?
| By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:55 am: Edit |
also i got 20.19 for a math question (that being the decimal equivalent), totally random but whatever
| By Manchesterfrank (Manchesterfrank) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:14 pm: Edit |
Question: in the QC section, the problem involving the values of a and b such that 2^a^6=4^b^4, did was it mentioned that neither value could possibly be zero? Otherwise, the answer would have to be "D," as at the zero value, a and b are equal, while at greater values, "a" must be greater.
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:15 pm: Edit |
Anjin, that's about a 670 or 700 verbal and a mid to low 700 math
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:26 pm: Edit |
so manchester whats the answer for that onne
| By Duck (Duck) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
what do you think my math score will be if i missed 2 grid ins, omitted one grid in, missed one quant comp, and 2 normal questions?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit |
hey predictors: how does 4 wrong math, 7-8 wrong verbal look for me?
| By Shaman88 (Shaman88) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit |
Manshesterfrank,
They told you as one of the preconditions
a>0 and b>0.
You're wrong.
It was A.
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit |
man if i dont break a 13 im gonna be upsetttt
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit |
What was the answer for the quadrilateral inside the pyramid question? Was the answer 12+8sqrt3? Was that in the experiemtnal section?
| By Duck (Duck) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
theres no way that predicted curve is accurate. How could missing 7 be worth the same as missing 9?
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
As a predictor, I will defend my predictions and the curve. While I did not create the curve, I somewhat understand it. It is a sigmoid curve, or in the shape of an s. Depending on where you are on the curve, score changes can be small or very large. For example, if you get one wrong on the math, it's and 800. Two wrong, and you drop to a 780. As you move toward the realm of 6-12 wrong, the score changes are not as exaggerated.
| By Chicagojen (Chicagojen) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit |
was it a precise formula or comical recipe? I put comical recipe.
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 01:59 pm: Edit |
Lisa, you are looking a approximately 730 math/720 verbal.
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit |
Does anyone remember how many "D"s they got on the quant comps?
What the answer for the slope question? Does anyone remember?
Also, which answer choice wasa 150 for the slant question ( i.e. a,b,c,d,e)
| By Smpaladin (Smpaladin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit |
Does anyone know which section won't count on the SAT I? I had 3 verbal sections and 4 math sections.
I'm hoping section 5 math was the experimental section because I omitted 6 questions due to time constraints...
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit |
what aare some questiong u had in section 5 cz i had the verbal expiremental
| By Smpaladin (Smpaladin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:23 pm: Edit |
I can't remember much of the problems I had in section 5 math, but I DO remember a problem that had to do with Western state populations and their ratio to # of House of Representative members.
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:26 pm: Edit |
yeah me too.
I remember having to make a computation like 87-75 or something like that.
Do you remember your answer?
And did anyone get 12.5 for the girl to catch up to the other girl?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit |
i didnt have anything like and i also didnt have anything wit a grl catching up to another
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:41 pm: Edit |
Smp and Anj relax b/c both questions were experimental! My verbal was experimental and I did not have those math problems.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:42 pm: Edit |
I remember having a question about a girl catching up to another and I think I got 12.5 as well.
Do you remember if it was in section 5 or the 15 minute math section?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:46 pm: Edit |
section 5 math was experimental, so it had to be in that
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:47 pm: Edit |
It was in section 5, from what I believe.
Did anyone have that pyramid question with the quadrilateral insdie of it?
Sulskman, are you sure it was the experimental section? I think you're right, but just checking!
| By Chapchap (Chapchap) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:52 pm: Edit |
Was one of the choices for the length of the triangle with hypot 10 4<x<6?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:52 pm: Edit |
Anjin- I had that pyramid question in section 5- i'm praying that was the experimental section because i thought it was a lot harder than section 1.
Did you have a question where you had to find the angle of intersection of a line perpendicular to one that intersects at 32 degrees or something like that?
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit |
which section was the verbal expirmental?
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
Bianchi, for teh pyramid question, I got 12+8 sqrt3. I hope it was experiemtnal.
Yeah, I had the 32 degree question. I think I got 58 degress for the questoin, not sure though. Can anyone verify this?
Was "150" answer choice C for the roof question?
| By Chapchap (Chapchap) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
I mean 6<x<8
| By Sssran87 (Sssran87) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:03 pm: Edit |
I am finding conflicting experimental section posts. I, too, had an extra math, but no wierd running or pyramid problems. Is it possible that there was more than one experimental math section?
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:03 pm: Edit |
I just remembered another answer.
1/3< p/t <2
Can anyone verify this?
| By Nycdebater (Nycdebater) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:08 pm: Edit |
i dont know which one was the experimental for me...how do u tell?
| By Smpaladin (Smpaladin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit |
Well I really hope whoever said Section 5 math won't count knows what they're talking about.
Anjin - I didn't put an answer for the first Western state question. I wasted probably 3 minutes trying to figure it out and then I justleft it blank.
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:13 pm: Edit |
lol, yeah. That question was a pain. I think that was in the experiemtnal section though, so you are lucky.
Heres to hoping a 730+ in math and a 1400+ overall. ( I got a 1340 on the March SAT, I think I did better this time around).
I got 1 MC wrong, 1 quant com wrong, and I skipped one.
Lets say I got 3 wrong and skipped one. What would my score be?
Thanks
| By Chapchap (Chapchap) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:13 pm: Edit |
For the math question with hypotenuse 10 and side x less then 4, was one of the choices 6<x<8??
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:18 pm: Edit |
yeah, but i don't think that could've been it. What if the side of x were .0000000001? The other leg would have to be 9.999999999991, which clearly does not meet your solution. I think I put that same answer just becuase I saw the 6. But the quesiton asked which parameter fulfils the situation, or whatever.
| By Cognitio (Cognitio) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit |
The answer to that question was 8<x<10
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit |
I agree with cognitio, teh answer was 8<x<10.
What was the answer for the slope question on teh quant coms? It was the last one. I remember putting c, though I am not sure.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:42 pm: Edit |
Did anyone else say "Compartmentalized time" for one of their answers to the native american critical reading passage?
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
Although this has already been discussed, I still think they messed up the paint question. I got 3.6 each time I did the problem. I ended up guessing 4.5, which I know is wrong.
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:09 pm: Edit |
Alright, Now this is just an exaggerated example, but what if you missed 30 total for each section... math and verbal. LOL I dont think I got this many wrong, b/c I think I actually did good on this. But if someone could give me an approx. about that, that would be cool. I'm just curious. Thanks
By the way. The folks getting 1200+ CONGRATS, that's REALLY REALLY good! If I got that, dang, I would be the happiest guy in the world.
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:10 pm: Edit |
Well, 1200+ on other SAT's, LOL.
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:16 pm: Edit |
OMG I kept getting 3.6 too!!!! And I KNOW I did it right, too...whatever. I omitted it. And Vas, I put "copartmentalized time" also. Hmm, well, I really hope I just end up getting 1400+, even though it's looking kinda doubtful.
Here's a question: what happens if College Board actually meessed up on some answers? What would they do? 
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:22 pm: Edit |
They'd probably omit the question altogether. So even if you "guessed" the right answer, it wouldn't help you. Don't count on it though.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:26 pm: Edit |
if you got 3.6, you did it wrong.
I was getting 3.6 as well, but that was because I forgot to realize that the quarts added together perfectly.
I thought it was porportionally question, where for example 2 quarts of blue and 3 quarts of green would make 1 quart of the result.
However, I forgot to see that 2 + 3 makes five, not one.
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:27 pm: Edit |
Do you remember the exact question so I can do it again?
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:35 pm: Edit |
10 quarts Amazon has how many blue quarts?
5 quarts Amazon = 3 quarts RP and 2 quarts LG
3 quarts RP is 1 quart blue and 2 quarts red.
8 quarts LG is 3 quarts blue and 5 quarts yellow.
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:36 pm: Edit |
That's what I did... I got a total of 25 quarts at the end of mixing them altogether, and 9 of them were blue. So you make a proportion:
9/25=x/10
x=3.6
Maybe I did something wrong. I don't know. Did that test seem really rushed to anyone else? I felt like I had a LOT less time than usual.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit |
Here's what you're supposed to do.
well u to have 10 quarts of amazon, right?
10 quarts of Amazon = 6 quarts RP and 4 quarts LG
8 quarts LG is 3 quarts blue and 5 quarts yellow.
To get 4 quarts of LP(half of what you make), I only need 1.5 quarts of blue.
3 quarts RP is 1 quart blue and 2 quarts red.
To get 6 quarts of RP (twice as much), I need 2 quarts of blue.
Therefore, 2+1.5 = 3.5
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit |
Here's what you're supposed to do.
well u to have 10 quarts of amazon, right?
10 quarts of Amazon = 6 quarts RP and 4 quarts LG
8 quarts LG is 3 quarts blue and 5 quarts yellow.
To get 4 quarts of LP(half of what you make), I only need 1.5 quarts of blue.
3 quarts RP is 1 quart blue and 2 quarts red.
To get 6 quarts of RP (twice as much), I need 2 quarts of blue.
Therefore, 2+1.5 = 3.5
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:44 pm: Edit |
Here's what you're supposed to do.
well u to have 10 quarts of amazon, right?
10 quarts of Amazon = 6 quarts RP and 4 quarts LG
8 quarts LG is 3 quarts blue and 5 quarts yellow.
To get 4 quarts of LP(half of what you make), I only need 1.5 quarts of blue.
3 quarts RP is 1 quart blue and 2 quarts red.
To get 6 quarts of RP (twice as much), I need 2 quarts of blue.
Therefore, 2+1.5 = 3.5
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:49 pm: Edit |
Ok, that makes sense. But why can't you get 25 quarts of Amazon and then divide 9/25 to get a proportion (of 3.6)?
| By Nycdebater (Nycdebater) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit |
i got 5 too..the problem seemed pretty ez..hmm maybe i did it wrong..no actually i dont think so..do we also find out da answers?
btw...how do we figure out which one was the experimental..like which sections were real
| By Jangel86 (Jangel86) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit |
Would I be able to still get an 800 math, with 1 wrong, 1 omitted? If people on here are right about verbal, then I did horrible. Does it look bad to colleges if the first time you take SATs you get a 760 verbal, and then get maybe a 680 the second time?
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 04:55 pm: Edit |
Futurepres, if you just looked through this thread, you would have seen my post on how to solve this problem, but I'll just copy it here anyway:
for the paint problem, here are some things to keep in mind:
blue makes up 1/3 of the royal violet (or whatever it's called)
blue makes up 3/8 of the lime green (or whatever it's called)
the recipe for the amazon color makes 5 quarts and the question asks for 10 quarts
Here is how it's done:
1) 5 quarts of Amazon is 3 quarts violet (which is 1/3 blue) and 2 quarts lime (which is 3/8 blue)
2) Amazon is therefore 3*(1/3) + 2*(3/8) , or 1.75
3) 10 quarts is double this, or 3.5 quarts
| By Chapchap (Chapchap) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:07 pm: Edit |
how do you think the sats are gonna grade the tests? i mean the test is the exact same as the one before, would it be an easier curve or harder? I hear that its based on how poeple do. Also what would i get on math if i got 2 wrong and skipped 1?
| By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit |
how did you do that ratio grid in one with like 4:3:2 ratio, what was the answer for RS
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:24 pm: Edit |
The answer was 4, I think.
The entire length had to be an integer between 10 and 20. I chose 18.
4x + 3x+ 2x=18
9x=18
x=2
2(2)=4
Theres your answer.
For the qaunt com where st<0, did anyone get d for that one?
Did anyone get 4 "d"s in the quant com section?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:26 pm: Edit |
if its based on how people do, the curve would be smaller becuase people probably did better
ehsc, i just doubled each of the numbers for an answer of 4
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:40 pm: Edit |
When are the early bird scores available? I pay $8, when is the earliest i can see my score? Collegeboard.com says its may 14th for regular posting as well as early posting.
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit |
in the QC section, I got 3 A's, 5 B's, 3 C's, and 4 D's
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:47 pm: Edit |
May 14 is the earliest you can see it. I know in the past the scores have been available at no charge... it happened to me last time. Hopefully it'll happen again.
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:47 pm: Edit |
Oh yeah, and 499 is a really annoying number.
| By Mk05 (Mk05) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 05:56 pm: Edit |
the question from the girl on the stair passage- the "pathological liar"
i discussed this with a few people and we dont see why it is an understandable exaggeration. we all put something about it being accurate but unorthodox. the passage talks about how her dad didnt have a college degree or all the books on the shelf, and she said she would call her brother "creative."
what do y'all think?
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:08 pm: Edit |
I put understandable exaggeration. Hmm... We'll find out in 6 weeks when we get our Question and Answer Service packets.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:11 pm: Edit |
ok... because her dad didn't have a college degree it is "understandable."
And nobody is a pathological liar, it would mean that you wouldn't be able to survive in society. It's an actual medical disorder.
Therefore, it is an exageration, because her brother only lied to her dad. He didn't lie to everyone.
| By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:11 pm: Edit |
ok... because her dad didn't have a college degree it is "understandable."
And nobody is a pathological liar, it would mean that you wouldn't be able to survive in society. It's an actual medical disorder.
Therefore, it is an exageration, because her brother only lied to her dad. He didn't lie to everyone.
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:15 pm: Edit |
Inneedofhelp, I think I got the same quant comps answers as you.
For the first math section, there was that question with teh two parallel lines. The answer was eithe r1 and 3 or 2 and 3. Does anyone remember that question?
Also, for that right cylindrical cone question, teh angle they gave was 50, so teh answer was 40, right?
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:22 pm: Edit |
Anjin- for the ratio problem, would 3 work for the length of RS?
I thought (but i'm probably wrong) that the problem only said that RS had to be an integer. For some reason i decided to make RS 3 and therefore the other lengths 4.5 and 6. This totals 13.5.
| By Smpaladin (Smpaladin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:26 pm: Edit |
Does anyone know what the highest my Math score would be if I skipped, say 8 questions in total and got maybe 6 wrong in total?
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:29 pm: Edit |
Theres your problem, Bianchi. 13.5 is between 10 and 20, but the question stipulated that it had to be an integer, wihch 13.5 is not.(I may have read wrong, however.)
Also, that question asked for one possible value, immplying that there is more than one answer. So maybe your answer is valid.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:32 pm: Edit |
Ok thanks for responding- I guess it just comes down to whether they said that the sum total in addition to RS has to been an integer. I can't remember so i'll just have to until the scores come out~
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:53 pm: Edit |
I'm almost positive it's an "understandable exaggeration". Think about it. Her brother didn't exactly tell the truth, but he didn't flat out lie either. He was "creative" as she said, which means she thinks he's sort of a liar. Thus she could probably see her father's attitude with "understandable exaggeration".
| By Ragnarok (Ragnarok) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 06:54 pm: Edit |
I put 3 for the answer to that question, Bianchi. I'm pretty sure that they said only RS had to be an integer, because I remember that when I saw that it would be 13.5 I went back to reread the question to make sure that would be okay.
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:06 pm: Edit |
That's funny because as i was doing that question I though it was odd that the question sounded like there were more than 1 possible answer when I thought that the question said the total had to be an integer, I didn't botter to reread it though.
| By Vnhsdork618 (Vnhsdork618) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:39 pm: Edit |
Some answeres that i remember to grid in questions.NOT IN ORDER
8800, 28, 3, 68( the one where u flip two digits, and the difference had to be 18.),
| By Jenesaispas (Jenesaispas) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:43 pm: Edit |
Actually, 68 is incorrect. The question asked for the highest two-digit number that did that. So, it's really 79
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:45 pm: Edit |
I think the answer for the one with the 2-digit number that is 18 less than the number formed by switching the digits is 79 because it asked for the greatest possible answer.
| By Wackicracka (Wackicracka) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:45 pm: Edit |
Sweet Ass... :P I can't friggen wait to see my scores... I better have gotten above 1000, LOL... Just 13 more days guys!!! Woop Woop!
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 07:46 pm: Edit |
sorry jenesaispas, i didn't see your response
| By Dav857 (Dav857) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:01 pm: Edit |
I have two lingering questions on the verbal section. The first one is the one that a lot of people are saying "Compartamentalizing time" was the correct answer to. The other one is the one where "They both view time as cyclical" was the correct answer.
Could anyone remember the questions and comfirm these as the right answers for me, or are they disputed answers?
Thank you so much.
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:11 pm: Edit |
Not sure about the first one (I put a different answer), but I'm pretty sure the answer to the second question was "they both found time as something hard to describe."
| By Duck (Duck) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit |
wasn't there a question comparing Mayans to Westerners? Answer A was that they both viewed time as cyclical, but i put that they both placed importance on time.
| By Shhh (Shhh) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:46 pm: Edit |
wasnt
8<x<10
in the ten minute section?
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit |
What, it said they both acted as if time was cyclical.
| By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:00 pm: Edit |
I think you are refering to two different questions. One the answer is that it is difficult to explaind and another answer to a different question in that passage is that time is cyclical
| By Dav857 (Dav857) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 09:07 pm: Edit |
Hey Duck (or anyone else) do you remember the other choices for that question?
| By Inneedofhelp (Inneedofhelp) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:05 pm: Edit |
You're right, it is 2 different questions; but I don't think "they both saw time as cyclical" was the answer, I think it was "they thought it was important to measure time precisely" because the Mayans, unlike the other natives, were very acurate with time measurement.
| By Bard (Bard) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:07 pm: Edit |
i think one of the answers for the double passage was hat they both agreed that it was difficult to describe. anyone confirm this?
| By Nike1800 (Nike1800) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:11 pm: Edit |
the one with westerners was that "they both thought it important to measure time accurately" or around there. The one comparing the two groups of natives could not have been "they both thought it was cyclical", because in the first group (not the mayans), the guy said it's like walking through a canyon. I don't remember the question completely. What were the other choices?
| By Adjlad (Adjlad) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:12 pm: Edit |
that was definately correct Bard
| By Bard (Bard) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:32 pm: Edit |
thank you Adjlad.
| By Redbarn (Redbarn) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:38 pm: Edit |
Does anyone remember what the other answer choices were to the question that some seem to think the answer is "compartmentalize time"? I don't think I put that as my answer, but I can't seem to remember what the options were.
As for the other answers, the Mayans and whatever other Indian nation both viewed time as cyclical, the Mayans and Westerners both thought it was important to measure time accurately (is it possible that that was one of the answer choices for the aforementioned question?), and another answer was that time is hard to describe.
Also, can people post the verbal scores that they hope to get/have been getting if you're posting about verbal questions and same for math if you're posting about math questions? It's difficult to know who to trust for correct answers and this would give at least a better representation of who's trustworthy for answers.
Going for 750V.
| By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:42 pm: Edit |
Does anyone remember a question asking a question about the purpose of the two passages or something like that?
I remember there being an answer of: to provide a perspective on time that is different from the western one
| By Anjin (Anjin) on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:46 pm: Edit |
Bianchi, I got the same answer. I think it was the first question on the dual passage section.
| By Balluup247 (Balluup247) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:57 am: Edit |
Ok does anyone remember the wording for the problem where you switch the digits around and get a difference of 18. Was the answer 79 or 97? Explain why also.
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:16 am: Edit |
it was 79 because the question asked for the ORIGINAL value
| By Vapajude87 (Vapajude87) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:48 am: Edit |
were both 79 and 97 choices for that problem? I hope not because I probably forgot to switch back to the original when bubbling in my answer!!
| By Impymonk (Impymonk) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:02 am: Edit |
79. It can't be 97 because if you reverse it then it's 79-97 = -18
| By Futurepres (Futurepres) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:28 am: Edit |
Vapajude87
It was a grid-in.
| By Vapajude87 (Vapajude87) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 04:21 am: Edit |
oh, then nevermind.
| By Plshelpme (Plshelpme) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 03:07 pm: Edit |
It definately said the highest number...
| By Ragnarok (Ragnarok) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:01 pm: Edit |
Did the question about 79 and 97 asked you to put the highest two-digit number that when you reverse the digits the difference is 18? Or, how exactly was it worded? I put 97, but I think I might have misread the question.
| By Collegeek (Collegeek) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:04 pm: Edit |
It was 79 ... its asked for the original number ..and that when u add 18 to the orginal the new number is the reverse of it
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:23 pm: Edit |
section 3 was the verbal expiremtent
| By Hollaratme (Hollaratme) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:23 pm: Edit |
section 3 was the verbal expiremtent
| By Bard (Bard) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
Ah i just remembered my experimental passage. It was on groups and how certain people are inevitably drawn into social behavir. Anyone else get this passage?
| By Nike1800 (Nike1800) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 09:36 pm: Edit |
What was the anwser to the question in the girl/magic slate passage about the TV as a shrine? Was she poking fun at the family's "obsession" with TV?
| By Valk78 (Valk78) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
i thought everyone said section 5 was the experimental... now people think its 3 ?? It made sense that 5 was the experimental i had small paragraphs, one of which was on diets, and another about a group of people exploring the shores of a beach, which no one seems to be talking about. Any official word on whether this section im talking about is experimental or not ?
| By Misfit6toy (Misfit6toy) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit |
hey, i have a question and sorry if someone already asked but i cant read 544 posts...
What do people like Gottagetout mean when they say that the "This test was old, I think I've taken the entire thing before."??
I don't understand how anyone could have seen the questions before - was it on a previous test as the experimental part? And if so, I thought they never published or revealed recent experimental sections...
| By Valk78 (Valk78) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:01 pm: Edit |
the verbal section u just took was an exact copy of the April 2003 Verbal section, the real section not experimental. Supposedly this has been a common practice by the College board lately. And its assumed the tests werent given out to the public
| By Misfit6toy (Misfit6toy) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:05 pm: Edit |
wait, but then how did people find the tests? From friends or tutors? Isn't that wrong?
There was actually a recent controversy on Long Island, with some Jericho tutor getting arrested because the kids he tutored had already seen the questions...
| By Valk78 (Valk78) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:11 pm: Edit |
yea but what that guy did was illegal supposedly, and i think hes being charged with multiple things.. anyway the people that saw the test must have taken it last April, im pretty sure even if your not a junior you can take it for the hell of it to see how you do and have it not count
| By Calidan (Calidan) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:15 pm: Edit |
Hey- does anyone know how many one could get wrong and still get a 700 in verbal? What about math? (no omits on either) Thanks!
| By Gottagetout (Gottagetout) on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 10:23 pm: Edit |
Yes, I definitely took the test last April. I scored pretty well and remembered the topics of some of the passages and such (but didn't know this until I got into the test). Pretty much anyone can take the SAT and even if you are not a Junior, your score still counts and colleges still see it.
| By Vas_Natarajan (Vas_Natarajan) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 06:13 pm: Edit |
Does ETS offer a "Check your Scores Early" service? it says on their website, 8 days prior to the wide release of scores, we can pay $8 to check our own scores. is this possible? do they not have it this time around?
| By Lisasimpson (Lisasimpson) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 08:51 pm: Edit |
yea i wanna know too
| By Bard (Bard) on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 08:52 pm: Edit |
I dont think so. All scores are released May 14th online.
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