|By Kstar (Kstar) on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:50 pm: Edit|
Do you believe that the SAT is more of an intelligence test than the ACT? Is this why it seems more colleges prefer the SAT for reasoning and SATII's for comprehension? What is your opinion of the ACT measuring achievement (for lack of a better word)?
I'm just curious...
Do you have higher scores for one test over the other? If so- which test? Why do you think that happened?
I think that the SAT is more of an IQ test, but I feel that the ACT is more accurate for success at colleges. Yet, since the tests are different, how can the scores be compared-as they often are?
|By Shaka (Shaka) on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:52 pm: Edit|
i personally thing that it is kind of a IQ/responsibility measurement test. Because the CB forsee that the smarter students will prep for it, the high scorers are, therefore, more responsible. as for the IQ aspect, the SAT is just a test of knowledge of basic verbal and math skills, the rest is logic...(this does not apply to the new SAT tho...)
|By Shaka (Shaka) on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:53 pm: Edit|
|By Drusba (Drusba) on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 09:57 am: Edit|
1. Neither testing agency claims any longer that it is measuring IQ or intelligence generally. Neither claims that your test score alone will predict how well you will actually do in college or whether you will make it. What both claim, and statistics support, is that your test score along with high school GPA is correlated to the probability that you will make it in college (not that you will ace eveything but just that you will make it; in fact, studies have shown that there is little difference in the median college GPA achieved by those with SAT scores in 1400's compared to those in the 1100's).
2. It is untrue that most colleges prefer the SAT over the ACT. Most colleges have no preference and the ACT dominates in most states in the middle of the country. The conception of SAT favortism is created because it dominates in the East and California (students from which dominate web-site boards) and even there almost all schools will take either SAT or ACT. SAT II's are required by only about 50 to 60 colleges out of several thousand. Even a number of those that require them will actually take the ACT in lieu of both the SAT and SAT II's (such as Yale, Penn, Brown, Tufts, Amherst, John Hopkins, Duke).
3. A number of schools have gone to requiring no admissions tests and they have found that their student success rate has remained the same.
4. Most schools actually don't make comparisons of test scores between ACT and SAT as they evaluate each test separately. Most that do make comparisons do not use the percentile comparisons you find on-line simply because those are based on a College Board percentile comparison of 1994 to 1995 test scores and are greatly outdated; instead, they have their own comparison charts.
5. The SAT does actually have its genesis in IQ tests developed in the early 1900's and used by the military in WWI. The SAT test was created in the mid-1920's by Carl Brigham, a psychology professor at Princeton who had worked on the military tests. Today's test bears many similarities to the one he created. Brigham believed his test, if used by colleges for admission, would achieve his most sought after goal -- preventing all immigrants, minorities and women from getting into college. He believed white upper class anglo males were the most intelligent people and it would ruin America if you allowed all the other low-life to mix with those white males at colleges. With his test, white males always scored better than others at the time. Harvard was one of the first to require his SAT test for admission; Princeton used it but did not require it until after Harvard did. It was later that many figured out that white upper crust males did better because the test was biased towards their educational and cultural background. Even Brigham, who abandoned his white supremicist views after Hitler rose to power -- such views became unpopular in America as a result -- later declared the test was biased and attempted to stop its spread but he died in the early 1940's and by that time most eastern colleges were using it and members of the College Board, particularly Princeton and Harvard, decided to promote the test's usage nationally. Many today still believe that the SAT has failed to overcome the bias that is its history.
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