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By Pwil3117 (Pwil3117) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:54 am: Edit |

Hello. I'm new here and i've seen from quite a few posts that most of u are expert at the sats and have gotten amazing scores. the first time in january i received an "1130" (m:510 v:620; then i "studied" for the march administration (i didn't once actually take a full practice test), and i know for tha fact my score hasn't gone up sinificantly. Is up possible for the may sat test for me to go up 370+ points if i take alot of practices tests? I would really appreciate the advice. Thx.

By Eastsoldier (Eastsoldier) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:37 am: Edit |

From 1130 to 1500

(Think I'm zoned for 1200s... verbals... blah)

If you see people's score here, you'll find out that almost everyone has M750+.

(Think I do, too. M750 V450 is my guess)

So you can pull up your math significantly since it is relatively easy. Two months are rather tight, though.

But if you can get A's in your math classes,(You don't even have to go up to Pre-Calc.) you pretty much have what you need to get M750+.

Most portion is rather Algerbra.(from what I see) So you can start from there.(especially word problems)

By Tinkerchelle (Tinkerchelle) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:39 pm: Edit |

I am seriously math uninclined--I'm pulling a very low A-/high B in honors precalc, and I have been able to get a few (3 or less) wrong to perfect every time I've taken a math section for the PSATs or for the practice SATs. So you really don't have to be good at math. I would seriously suggest doing a lot of practice tests..after a while, the patterns become more apparent.

For verbal...two months is kind of tough. You could probably go up at least 100 points by practicing a lot though.

By Mychocopie (Mychocopie) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:13 pm: Edit |

idk about the A in math thing -- I have a 4.0 gpa in math all the way across the board - even in trig/precalc and I still got a 530 Math IC SAT II and a 630 (twice!) on the SAT I Math.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 04:12 am: Edit |

*cough* grade inflation...

By Yoyomama04 (Yoyomama04) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 02:55 pm: Edit |

If you want to go up that much, I would either take a prep course like Princeton Review, or get a math tutor. It's going to be hard to improve that much in only a few months on your own.

By Shhh (Shhh) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit |

Actually songster, it DOES not mean grade inflation. The persons learning style may be different or he may be so bombarded with more advanced math, that he forgot how to deal with simple math that is needed for the SATs.

dumb people actually have an ADVANTAGE. SAT math tests algebra and geometry. I took that like 4 million years ago. People who are CURRENTLY taking those courses have it fresh in their mind.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:15 pm: Edit |

I don't think people in 11th/12th grade who are currently in math classes with "5" level problems as their hardest ones are at any advantage - look at what class level they're in for upperclass highschool years...

By Mparking (Mparking) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:55 pm: Edit |

I got a C in Algebra II. I got a 600 on the math portion my first time...which wasn't so bad.

When I got the score report back though, I had gotten most of the 5's and 4's right, but missed alot of 2's and 3's, and mostly for stupid mistakes. That made me feel somewhat like an idiot.

I think it's just alot of careful reading and applying basic elements from your math classes. You can do it!

By Stjaba (Stjaba) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit |

I already got an 800 on V, so I was trying to move from 630 to the 720+ range on Math. But I disagree that "stupid people" have an advantage since the SAT Math tests only algebra and geometry. It isn't like you forget that stuff after Geometry, and in any case, the SAT doesn't really test how much you know, but your Math reasoning ability.As long as you don't forget the basics, you should be fine for the easy and medium problems.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:15 pm: Edit |

I got a split between B's and A's in geometry algebra and precal but my math skills are significantly higher than they seem from my grades. Ive pulled 800s on my practices and almost always 720+. I'm assuming i broke 750 on the March SAT which will be more than 150 point different from my 10th grade PSAT.

By Aeg315 (Aeg315) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:25 pm: Edit |

I don't think you can make any correlation between grades in math classes and projected SAT scores. I do very well on the math sections (750+), but get low As in my Honors Pre-Calc class. I know kids who get 100s in Honors Pre-Calc but low-mid 600s on the math section of the SAT. The SAT math is - let's face it - basic. However, the questions are not. It doesn't test your mathematical abilities; any ape in a cage can memorize the special triangles and simple geometry and arithmetic. But not everyone is good at taking tests. There's a fallacy in the logic of anyone who believes that someone who gets relatively low math SAT scores but high grades in their mathematics courses are in classes with inflated grades. Perhaps the person who gets low SAT math scores only does so because he or she wastes his or her time with harder formulas and "smarter" ways of doing things, rather than the quickest, sometimes less orthodox ways? The SAT isn't really a test of what you know; I think it's really a test of how good you are at taking tests. The SAT tests your ability to answer multiple choice questions. Period. It definitely serves its purpose though.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit |

Not true, but too lazy to argue this. =P

But as much as everyone likes to deny this, there is a strong correlation between natural logic (although I hesitate on using the word "intelligence") and SAT test scores. And likewise, there is a strong correlation between work ethic and school test grades.

By Aeg315 (Aeg315) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:45 pm: Edit |

I agree to an extent... There are those kids who we say "just try hard." But some of the most brilliant people I know get lower SAT scores than some unbelievably stupid people I know. I think the SAT is also a test that you can prepare for like a regular test in school. If you have an 80 average in a class, and you start studying for a half hour more every night, you'll probably get a 90 or something - you will go up. On the SAT, if you take a test a week after your PSAT and practice techniques, your score will also go up. It's so hard to predict these things, and there's no rule that applies to everyone.

By Magoo112 (Magoo112) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:47 pm: Edit |

First time I took them I got an 1180 (I think I was nervous or something 660V and 570V).

I know for a fact that I can get 1450+ (1450 = avg score on 8 of the 10 real SATs, and my target range according to this Kaplan thing at my school is 1470-1560).

Point is...

WOW I just noticed what I'm writing is useless =/ nm.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit |

in 7th grade i got 1060. Im in 11th now and on my my best practices are around 1470.

By Aznsnake0307 (Aznsnake0307) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 02:23 pm: Edit |

In 7th Grade i got like 720 without Geo. and a year of Alg. 1. Its possible to get 750+ since ur in precalc.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit |

grades > SAT

AP and SATIIs> grades

-the SAT measures your intelligence. Studying can help a lot, but you can only raise your score so much. I think that they are not completely fair because some prep schools overly prep people for the test, making it difficult for others to compete.

By Magoo112 (Magoo112) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 07:16 pm: Edit |

The Math on the SATs simply test to see if you know all the basic properties of things. Such as trianlges and circles, and if you know how to apply them when needed. It's easy to study for this. Don't focus on so much on studying for the test. Focus more on studying for your own sake. Go pick up a 10th grade Geometry book or something and go through it (if your weakness is geometry, like me ^_^).

You're supposed to take the practice tests... Se what you get wrong and then look up the theorem/Property/whatever in your text book or, if the SAT book you're using has a detailed answers, read it and understand it, if not go to your book.

Verbal is a whole 'nother beast =)

By Haithman (Haithman) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit |

Yea I went from 510 Math PSAT to 770 Practice Tests in 10 RSAT's. What did I do? Went to school everyday and just thoroughly read the problems. Now I need to score 730+ on my verbal.

Hoping to go from 1040 PSAT to 1450 (want 1500)+ on SAT in June. Well I better go back to spending my whole spring break studying!

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