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By Obiwan (Obiwan) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 09:32 pm: Edit

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By Foreignboy (Foreignboy) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:15 am: Edit

You heard the man! Move on.. Move on.. Hey you, what are you looking at? That's it... keep moving, people...

By Thedad (Thedad) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:02 pm: Edit

Why do I think that they'll give Foreignboy a deputy moderator's badge, LOL!

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Looks like it's past 12.

"Foppish," anyone?

By Hertish (Hertish) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:16 pm: Edit

dandy: foppish

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:29 pm: Edit

Here's my questions:

for the sentence completion about the guy borrowing somethin from neighbors...is it a compunction?

froth:foamy is syrup:sticky?

is that pakistani prime minister sentence compettion one somethin about "harbinger"?

innuendo? (forgot the question...somethin about no direct attacks but rather....)

bully:domineering?

impasse:progress is transition:change?

And for MATH

that last one in the first math section ...was the answer to it /a+1\=(2x/a\)-2?? (note: /\ means triangle around it)

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:30 pm: Edit

a dandy is, by nature, foppish.

I think the answer was

bully:domineering

yeah i got the same innuendo one and "a" triangle one.

are there more 3 digit palindromes or 4 digit palindromes or the same?

and it sounds stupid but the first one in the 15 minute math- how many seats can isabel sit in- i wasn't sure if they meant two seats away or two seats in between her and john. was it 3 or 5?

oh last one- the unfathomable:understanding one?

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:32 pm: Edit

Dang it. i put that too but the answer is with a +2.

How come i dont remember ever doing this problem about impasse:progress

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

yeah, the math one was -2, because it becomes +4 but u want a +2.
bully domineering was right
palindromes were equal. (90 each) because with 101, 1001 the middle two have to be the same.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

for the palindrome one, i put C for same...anyone else got any other answers and logical reasoning to support it? PLEASE SHARE YOUR ANSWERS HERE PEOPLE

By Jerseyshoregirl (Jerseyshoregirl) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:34 pm: Edit

I put bully:domineering too.

I think there are the same amount of palindromes but i'm not sure.

Did that guy who was trying to get the girl to get married (sorry, I don't remember the names)claim her consent because he expects obediance, because he makes questionable assertions, or something else?

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:34 pm: Edit

what other possible choices were there for dandy foppish? Was the the question about extravangent : grandiose?

was any of the answers: expert:ignorance?

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:34 pm: Edit

About the guy borrowing something I had pretext

For froth: foamy I had syrup :sticky

I didnt have the pakistani one

For impasse:progress I had something:continue

And I had that answer for the last math question

What did about the sentence comp. about something being foolish...I had wrongheaded:chicanery

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

gridins:

the tickets with $2 $3 and $5...the answer was 6 right? and for the pirate question about the treasure...it was 10 right??

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

what was the one repugnant:disgust?
was it marvelous: wonder?
because something that is repugnant inspires disgust in people?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

that last one in the first math section ...was the answer to it /a+1\=(2x/a\)-2?? (note: /\ means triangle around it)
yes

can anyone confirm these?

15 min
yankee game (example of memory to go in disposal box)
how is style of p1 different from p2? (p2 uses own experiences)
what would an adult remember (next door neighbors kids)

35 question v
confrontational (how is the relationship between daughter and mother)

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

After the first counting verbal, i thought "this is gonna rock". Then I get to the second and 3rd verbal section and I go "oh crap". Omitted last 4 on double passage... And 3 elsewhere (7 total omit) No omit on math, but got 2 wrong (prime and last fill - I had 2/3!!!! damnit it's 1/3!!!!) What was the number of three dollar things - I guessed 12 (i dont know how to do those). But the rest of math was easy.

I guessed bully:domineering for dandy.

By Sabinscabin (Sabinscabin) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

yes the same

for the cone question did you get 10/4
I think I got it wrong since I did the ratio of 3 to 9 instead of 3 to 12.

and which number exemplified the thing
arabic 3 or arabic 11?

which event would have shared memories? I put when one sibling broke an arm and they talked to their mother

Damn i didnt know that tenor meant generalization so i put characterization meaning "role" :(

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:36 pm: Edit

i skipped that chicanery one...it was about some critics of this experiment right??

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:36 pm: Edit

Whtx--that was prolly experimental, i didn't get it either.

how about:

-"charged" = asserted
-"character" = role???
EDIT: tenor meant generalization? Damn
-didn't mention disrepair of bungalow
-senses overwhelmed
-intense pleausre
-dialogue+narrative

for memories:
-second one had personal experience
-the hitting tree part = humorous

when i think of more, ill post them...

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:36 pm: Edit

Shaka, yes those are right.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:38 pm: Edit

Burlinz: i also had wrongheaded:chicanery.

Whtx: i did not get any answer expert:ignorance. I remember seeing that, but I chose something else. Remember the question?

Jerseygirl: I think you are talking about the experimental, cause I did not have that.

Did you guys get cavalier as an answer?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:39 pm: Edit

i think she got married because she was sick of people making fun of him "waving paper bags... they would stop flaunting his idiosyncrasies at her so obviously...."

how about the one with that rectangle + the square and you had to find the perimeter (square's perimeter was 20, rectangle's was 30...)


Ahh I hate math so much

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit

I had the perimeter as 42.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:40 pm: Edit

yes i put down cavalier. It was a sentence completion question and it was something about the guy being brusque and the 2nd part was about them wanting him to be lesss ______. I put down cavalier.

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:41 pm: Edit

how about the one with that rectangle
44

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:41 pm: Edit

i had perimeter 44 and abrasive instead of cavalier

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

Whtx - for that SC i had the one that started with boorish.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

I also had 44.

Did anyone else get precipitate or precipitous as an answer? or something like that.

Also: for the reading, why is suspicion ironic? What doesn't he find surprising? (I said bungalow). What is the mood of the description? (utter bewilderment or extreme pleasure). These are all from same passage.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

how about...that last gridin with the a, b, c and the reciprocals? i didnt get that one but what was it just for laughs?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

wow ok can we try to organize this?

like if you're asking about math put

MATH Q at the top

or verbal

VERBAL Q

answers:

MATH A

VERBAL A

thanks that would make my life so much easier

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

no it's peremptory, cavalier

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:43 pm: Edit

Damn...

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

(MATH A)
the last grid in was 1/3
a = 1/3
b = 4
c = 5/4

bc = 5

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

pack rat: hoard
vagabond: wander??

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

Math A:

Shaka: the answer to the last fill in was 1/3 (I had 2/3!!!!)

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

k i'll start

VERBAL A:

I think the brusque guy was the abrasive one.

MATH A:

i got 3 for a. are you sure it was 1/3? i had that and changed it... dammit!!

By Romastaflex (Romastaflex) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit

i messed up on the math so bad. damn lost my focus. wish i had gotten more than 6 hrs of sleep. i think i did aite on verbal tho..not sure if i should cancel. sabinscabin i got arabic 3 for that one. and for that CR i put the one about how the siblings talked to each other or sumthin.

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit

anyone know when we get our scores?

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:47 pm: Edit

Verbal

What was the crap about the stinkbug? It was like A) Maligant and D) Maldorous or something like that.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:47 pm: Edit

Math A - how to do last grid in:

bc = 5
b(1+1/b) = 5
b+1 = 5
b = 4
b = 1+1/a
4 = 1+1/a
3 = 1/a
a = 1/3

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:47 pm: Edit

was anyone else so pissed off when you turned the page of the first verbal.... and saw another verbal? and then by the time i got to math i was already so drained i barely answered all the questions- not to even mention checking any.

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

Was C the answer for the palindrome one in the quantitative section?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

VERBAL A:

maladorous. it means bad (mal) smell (odor)

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

i said malodorous

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:49 pm: Edit

Not really because I knew the second verbal (for me anyway) was experimental (one 1 paragraph passage with 2 questions and a double passage with 4 questions) so I just relaxed on that section.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit

the stinkbug was MALODOROUS. MAL = bad, ODOR = smell

Phantom - YES look in the post BEFORE askin questions please

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit

whats the one about the indictment:conviction?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit

for that "which would be the best example of the thing that the author was talking about" one, i put ARABIC 3

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:50 pm: Edit

yeah, but then i was like "if i do really badly on this section, they're going to think i cheated on the others." whatever. it's over.

so what's your:

goal?

anticipated score?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

Verbal Q:

Did anyone else get precipitate or precipitous as an answer? or something like that.

Also: for the reading, why is suspicion ironic? What doesn't he find surprising? (I said bungalow). What is the mood of the description? (utter bewilderment or extreme pleasure). These are all from same passage.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

MATH:

What was the answer to the question about what the LEAST # of sides can a 3d polygon faced object have? Was it 5?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:51 pm: Edit

What about the one with the guy getting to know his co-workers early. I originally had requisition, but the root "re" is to do again, and i didnt think that fit (a distractor to a word in the SC). So I put pretext.

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

VERBAL A (stick with the format, guys!)

ruling: decision?

something like that.

and yeah, i knew the second was experimental but i was like, "if i do really badly on this they're gonna think i cheated on the other verbals..." stupid nerves.

so waht's your:

goal?

anticipated score?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

WHTX, could you give some answer choices?

By Romastaflex (Romastaflex) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

(Math Q)
u gotta admit tht waz pretty damn hard. especially the math. anyone get the question in the 15m math section with AC=6 and BE=4 and u had to find the area? was it 12? 24? also the one about the 3d surfaces..anyone remember those?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

WHTX, could you give some answer choices?

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

yes, i think i put precipatate for that store clerk one that took bribes from manufacturers...was that right?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit

MATH A: Shaka - its 4 (a tetrahedron is a 3d shape of 4 congruent equilateral triangles - which are polygons)

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit

Verbal A:
Pretext is what i put, and just looked it up. It's right.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit

i put pretext as well.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:53 pm: Edit

Math:

I dont remember what i put but right now i think the answer is 4. A pyramid

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit

oh BTW the 3d surfaces one, did you guys put 4? i considered a tetrahedral shape.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit

Did anyone get 2.5 or 10/4 for the cone one??

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit

MATH A:
Romastaflex- it was 12..each triangle of the kite was 6

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm: Edit

shaka--by the time i enter a post, like 10 ppl have already posted before me!!!

btw, does the straight-line method work for the grid-ins? i didn't have time to write 1/3 for the last answer so i slashed in 1, /, and 3.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:55 pm: Edit

"Verbal A:
Pretext is what i put, and just looked it up. It's right."

Nice! I knew that requisition was a distractor! w00t!

MATH A: For the quad I had area 12.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:55 pm: Edit

Whats the one about the crappy thing with aunt? It was something like talkative, exciting or forceful/direct

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:55 pm: Edit

who put TENOR for that last CR? it was asking about "characterization"

OH and for the same section, "VITAL" meant... what? i put something along the lines of essential.

By Qwert271 (Qwert271) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

fundamental for vital

By Impatheticiknow (Impatheticiknow) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

verbal sucked

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

Robert - MATH A

Yes, I had 2.5. The ratio of linear things is a:b.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

Math A: 5/2 for the cone is right.

Verbal A: I put foreceful/direct, though am not sure.

Someone please answer these critical reading VERBAL Q:

why is suspicion ironic? What doesn't he find surprising? (I said bungalow). What is the mood of the description? (utter bewilderment or extreme pleasure). These are all from same passage.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

yeah I got preemptory, not cavalier,
Lout: oafish :: thug: brutal
3 seating arrangments
I put B for palindrome ... dang
unfathomable: Understand :: impregneable: conquest
didn't get impasse thing
got innuendo
got 10 for pirate thing
got B for number line S,S,R thing
and let me think...

By Burllinz (Burllinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

i said vital meant fundamental

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit

yeah seriously, we need a chatroom on here or something

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit

I thought the first verbal was pretty easy (with the Nora Zeale Hurston passage) but the other 2 were pretty hard.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

YES

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

Billiam,

I hope 2.5 is right...
I also put forceful/direct
It was ironic because choice A, something about susipcion being negative.

The mood i put bewilderment

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

MATH A
The answer is 4 for the 3-d shapes (triangular pyramid).
The kite one u had to realize that if u folded it it made a rectangle of 6 x 2 so the answer was 12.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

whytx, i put forceful/direct...but im not sure tho...

crypto: what was thtat pretext one about? what was the question?

By Romastaflex (Romastaflex) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit

i put fundamental for vital.....the other choice was spirited

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit

VERBAL A:
billiam- definitely not bewilderment if you mean the bungalow one. the suspicion is ironic because it usually has a negative connotation. he doesn't find the bungalow run-down thing surprising.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit

Are you sure about those Whtx? Those are all the same answers I put.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:00 pm: Edit

Whats the crap about the like X and Y of the outer angles of the triangle. And the known angle was 55?

I put like 235 or something.

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit

VERBAL A:

i put confrontational because she had all those arguments "clashes" she called it with her great aunt.

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit

MATH A:
whtx - 235 is right

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit

Shaka - the last SC in second counting verbal passage. It was about a man who got to know his co-workers a little bit before getting to know them more indepthly - something like that. His prior chatting was a pretext to getting to know his co-workers better.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

this SAT kicks ass

By Tkdgal (Tkdgal) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

Random question: When are the results available? I'm stupid and forgot how long it is (my first time w/the test)

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

Presumptuous = insolent for the CR?

What was the questions that had repent:forgiveness?

Whtx, I put forceful/direct.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

JM2006 - I also had confrontational.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: Edit

235 is right.

Jm: Bewilderment and suspicion one are Two different questions. Are you saying that BUNGALOW was an answeR?

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

When are the PSAT results suppose to be released? Can you see the results on collegeboard.com?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

an anyone confirm these?

15 min
yankee game (example of memory to go in disposal box)
how is style of p1 different from p2? (p2 uses own experiences)
what would an adult remember (next door neighbors kids)

35 question v
confrontational (how is the relationship between daughter and mother)

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

let's talk about that last section, the one about memories

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

ok what else can we hash up here.

what was the hardest math question?

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

ooops wrong post lol...that was from a while back LOL

By Shaka (Shaka) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit

the hardest math to me was that last gridin...but we already covered that

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit

You sure vital does not mean irreplaceable (or something) in that scenario? I was debating between fundamental and that.

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:04 pm: Edit

Double

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:05 pm: Edit

so what about CONTRITE:REGRET

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:05 pm: Edit

what was the crap about the prime numbers?

What about the pattern one? 0,-1,2, etc till reaching 30 or something?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit

VERBAL A:

Metra - I had fundamental. I was between those two, but later in the passage the author says that memories are fundamental, so that's why I put that.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit

what was the last grid in?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:06 pm: Edit

haruha- was that the question or one of the answers?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit

Whtx - I had 15 movements back before reaching 30.

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit

metra--i also put irreplaceable!

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit

repent: forgiveness
Question was contrite:regert

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

MATH A:

i'm pretty sure the answer for the pattern till reaching 30 was 15. back me up on this, people?

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

15 was the prime number.

Im also wondering what contrite regret one was.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

Haruhara:

Math A - how to do last grid in:

bc = 5
b(1+1/b) = 5
b+1 = 5
b = 4
b = 1+1/a
4 = 1+1/a
3 = 1/a
a = 1/3

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

Verbal A

I put contrite:reget answer was ambition:hope or something like that. One who is contrite has regret. One who has ambition has hope.

Metra: For vitality, I put irreplacable.

Whtx: that was 15.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:09 pm: Edit

what were the other answer choices for that contrite:regret thing again? i think my bridge sentence was a contrite person possesses much regret...

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:09 pm: Edit

hey musicbuster, i don't think that was the answer. i don't remember what i put but when you're contrite, you're feeling regretful about something. when you repent something, you don't feel forgiveness, you ASK for forgiveness.

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:09 pm: Edit

Music, you sure? I put that too but i had that feeling where you know youre guessing wrong.

By Forsakn4 (Forsakn4) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit

which was the math experimental section?
ppl that only have two large math sections:
did you have the last question with (a+1) in a triangle or the one with finding the length of the triangle ???

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit

are you sure it's repent:forgiveness? i mean, repent is a verb and not an adjective

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit

from the 15 min memory passage:
yankee game (example of memory to go in disposal box)
how is style of p1 different from p2? (p2 uses own experiences)
what would an adult remember (next door neighbors kids)
can anyone confirm these?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:11 pm: Edit

Verbal A: For contrite:regret the options were PENITENT:FORGIVENESS not repent:forgiveness. Therefore, it is ambition:hope.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:11 pm: Edit

P and R are both prime then they ask what else is a prime

what was the crap about the prime numbers?

It was like II only or II and III...

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:11 pm: Edit

VERBAL A

i think vital was fundamental. remember, all your answers have to be backed up in the passage. the author said something about memories being fundamental, never mentioning anything about replacing them or even valuable.

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:12 pm: Edit

billiam--aspiring:ambition??? that's what i got

btw, the other choice was penitent:forgiveness

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:12 pm: Edit

Yeah Jm's probably right - ambition:hope.

And i hope its irreplaceable for vital.

By Korinfox (Korinfox) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:12 pm: Edit

II only because the I and III situations would produce even numbers given 2 primes greater than 3

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit

Hewashere: I put DOG memories because he did not do anything with the dog - his brother did.

I agree with style.

I put an adult would remember childhood or something like that I think. I don't think next door neighbor kids.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit

well I wasn't sure, but it was actually penitent not repentent... so... wut u guys think

By Romastaflex (Romastaflex) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit

hope u were bein sarcastic haruhara
goal: 1350
anticipated: 1200ish

••••
*cancel?*

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit

oh that's right i got CONTRITE:REGRET::ASPIRING:AMBITION or something along these lines; wait.. i'm not even sure these are even the same problem=\

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm: Edit

DANG IT! i put penitent:forgiveness... that is wrong?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit

i think the only answer was 2- it can only be a prime if it's a+2b (a and b being the 2 prime numbers) not a+3b or a+b

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit

goal: 1500

anticipated: hahahahahaha. right.

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:14 pm: Edit

hewashere, I said dog experience for example of memory to go in disposal box (I think), because the narrator suggested that the yankee game experience made a strong impression on him, but the dog incidences were vague


i agree w/ your other two

also, i put II only for the prime question

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:15 pm: Edit

Whtx: yes it's wrong.

JM: for that math question you are right. Cases 1 and 3 produce odd + odd numbers. This can only be even and thus is not prime. Only case II works.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

no, i wasn't being sarcastic, contrite is an adjective and repent is a verb, nuff said

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

contrite:regret::
something with aspire and ambition?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

i put 1 and II, for that prime question

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

I put DOG memories because he did not do anything with the dog - his brother did.

but the dog memories were not troubling but the yankee game was.


I put an adult would remember childhood or something like that I think. I don't think next door neighbor kids.
the passage mentioned how adults remember long term memories better and that's why i put remembering the neighbor's kids

By Traci87 (Traci87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit

was the answer to the 3-d polygon faces question 4?(pyramid w/triangle base)

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:17 pm: Edit

oh wait i was thinking of something else nvm about the I+II for the prime thing

By Jerseykid (Jerseykid) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit

What did you guys get for the last 3 math fill-ins?
i got:
the overlapping rectangles - 40
then 9000 (don't remember the problem)
and finally 1/3 for the bc=5 one

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit

wait. for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2?

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit

he prime question was like if you have r and q, then which of the following could equal another prime number?
1.r+q
2.r+2q
3.r+3q
the only one that will equal an odd number is 2. so thats what i put.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:18 pm: Edit

what about the one which had somegthing to do with grain:crop?

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit

which verbal section was experimental? do you guys know? I liked the first 2 (Hurston passage + another one I don't remember) but section 5 verbal was a killer for me. hmm

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:19 pm: Edit

9887 here... for the second to last grid in

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit

Can we come to some consensus regarding the meaning of VITAL?

I put irreplaceable.

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit

then 9000 (don't remember the problem) I had like 9998-111 = 9887

By Dcs13 (Dcs13) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit

maybe i read wrong but for the prime number one couldn't it have been III as well: a+3b

if a=7 and b=2 then 7+(3*2)=13 right?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:20 pm: Edit

wait. for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit

biggest difference arising from a 3 digit number with 3 odd digits, and a 4 digit number with 3 odd digits

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit

i said 9998-111=9887

for the last quantitative comp. question before the grid-ins, with the graph and the shading, the coordinates were, I think, (a, b), and the point could not be on line l or the y-axis, was b>a?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit

yeah, it would've been 9998-111

(4 digit, 3 primes- 3 digit, 3 primes)

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:21 pm: Edit

9998-111 i put = 9887

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:22 pm: Edit

for the last quantitative comp. question before the grid-ins, with the graph and the shading, the coordinates were, I think, (a, b), and the point could not be on line l or the y-axis, was b>a?
yes it was b

wait. for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2?

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit

EDIT: DC--the question stated that the prime can NOT be 2.

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit

MATH Q:

what about the one that was like x+3w+2y=18... 2x+6w+7y=48?

i just made (x+3w) into one big variable and made it m+2y=18, 2m+7y=48. is that right?

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit

9887 too.

Dog memories.

Hope its irreplaceable.

For the refined women not wanting to marry the vulgar man, was presumptuous insolent or ambitious? I put ambitious but now that i think about it, insolent fits 10x more.

Also, was she being imperious or defensive? I put imperious.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit

yeah i made a mistake, nvm (not on the test, i got it right on the test, i'm pretty sure of that)

By Forsakn4 (Forsakn4) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit

the two verbals that were real were hurston and the one w/ the fiction story w/ george goin to the island
which one of the math was experimental tho??

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:24 pm: Edit

Metra: are you talking experimental? That could be experimental - i never saw any question like that.

By Whtx (Whtx) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit

It asked for the author of pssage two... For the quantitative comp question with the graph and the shading, what was the question and the 2 choices?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:25 pm: Edit

she was being confrontational.

By Jerseykid (Jerseykid) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit

but what about the fill in with the overlapping rectangle and square that asked you to find the perimeter?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit

can anyone answer my math q? (above)

and was there a math experimental? that would totally kick butt... i thought it was only 1 experimental, either verbal OR math

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit

oh that one (the QC question), i put that the y coordinate of the um... coordinate was bigger than the X coordinate. I believe it was B

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit

i put 44 for the overlapping rectangle and square

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit

Hrmmmmmm... i guess its experimental.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:27 pm: Edit

wut was the second to last gridin??

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit

there was no math experimental for me; i had an english experimental.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:28 pm: Edit

overlapping rectangle and square that asked you to find the perimeter?
44
wait. for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2? (can someone please answer)

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:29 pm: Edit

second to last grid in i got 9887; 5 other people have confirmed that answer already (above)

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit

what about the one that was like x+3w+2y=18... 2x+6w+7y=48?

WHAT WAS Y?

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit

WHAT IS THE SAT CURVE LIKE, I THINK I GOT 5 MATH WRONG AND 5 VERBAL, HOW DOES THAT CONVERT?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:31 pm: Edit

y was 4 i believe

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit

for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2?

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit

y=4 i said

By Forsakn4 (Forsakn4) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:32 pm: Edit

did you ppl have teh math section with teh a+1 in a triangle ?

By Molly_Sat (Molly_Sat) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit

For the overlapping rectangles I got 44

By Emmittsmith (Emmittsmith) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit

Des, the questions aid for any a or b prime which are greater than 2.
only II was the answer.

What about 9, 10, 11, and 13 (I think) for QC? I got all D's.

For the 3d-polygon, I know the answer was 4, but that was A right?

By Molly_Sat (Molly_Sat) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit

For the overlapping rectangles I got 44

By Vartan (Vartan) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:33 pm: Edit

what was that 3-d figure one? i interpreted the question to be 'faces' which would not include the 'base' in other words, i said 3. but i think thats wrong.

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit

they change it slightly every year (ugh)

it's been everything from 710-730 (math). usually like a 720

740-780 verbal. usually like a 760.

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit

4 for y.
44 for perimeter.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:34 pm: Edit

Forsakn - I had E

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit

MATH A:

"what about the one that was like x+3w+2y=18... 2x+6w+7y=48? "

y came out to be 4 i believe.
but i remember 20 or 10 somewhere, but its probably 4.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit

i had smthing like 1,2,5,7 verbal
3,4,6 math

1 was Hurston
2 was smthing (maybe George island)
5 was smthing (maybe George island thing)

so either section 2 or 5 was about Brain remembering thing and was exp.?? possibily>

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:36 pm: Edit

No, 4 was b for the polygons.

By Vartan (Vartan) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:37 pm: Edit

i got 4. you got 3y=12 or something.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Probably...If you are absolutely right, a mid 1500...I guess a 1560-1580.

By Emmittsmith (Emmittsmith) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit

er. for the polygons, was A 5 then? •••• I think I put A.

By Haithman (Haithman) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:38 pm: Edit

Dliebers

Around 750 Verbal 710 Math

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:39 pm: Edit

did you guys get like 4 c's or something in one math section? i dunno, but it made me kind of nervous...

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:39 pm: Edit

crap for the QC I don't recall large amnt of D's but a friend does...

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:40 pm: Edit

no.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:41 pm: Edit

15 cr
for the question about which memory would go in the disposal box, did it ask the author of passage 1 or 2?

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit

no what?

By Phantom (Phantom) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:44 pm: Edit

hewashere--i believe it was 2.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:44 pm: Edit

No, there were not 4 in a row, unless you did an experimental. Even though i did an experimental math and did not have 4.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:48 pm: Edit

I am wondering...what do you guys predict the curve to be like? Good or bad? How hard was this test compared to others?

By Smadans (Smadans) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:50 pm: Edit

For the Verbal Section in which the guy goes to the island, did anyone get 4 straight B's?

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:51 pm: Edit

Math was a tad harder than usual, probably let 1 wrong to get 800.

Verbal seemed easy.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:53 pm: Edit

Roma
AC=6 and BE=4 and u had to find the area? was it 12? 24? it was 12


Robert
I put 2.5

The palindrome was C...I was like hmm, its probably C and guessed

Is the ironic one because it is ussually used in negative connotation?


Was the 2nd to last gridin 111-9998 or something like taht which gave u a big difference

whtx - it was 15, if Im thinknig of same problem. Cuz u go back 1 and up 3 or something. 30/2 is 15

contrite: regret was aspire:ambition

P and R is prime numbers - it was 2 only

what was the top left quant comp t^2 - r^2 = 1.... I put D

the last quant comp. I put B is greater (y coordinate) can any1 confirm?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:55 pm: Edit

Yeah, I agree with Metra.

I'm guessing...

Perfect Math = 800 (-0 Raw Score)
1 Wrong on Math = 800 (-1 Raw Score)
2 Wrong on Math = 780-790 (-2 Raw Score)

Perfect Verbal = 800 (-0 Raw Score)
1 Wrong on Verbal = 800 (-1 Raw Score)
2 Wrong on Verbal = 800 (-2 Raw Score)
3 Wrong on Verbal = 770-780 (-4 Raw Score)

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:55 pm: Edit

I had verbal 30, math 30, quant comp math 30, verbal 30, math 30, verbal 15, math 15

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit

I agree with all of those, bcrichsolo.

And it was 9998-111 = 9887.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:56 pm: Edit

which was my experimental?

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit

Do you think the verbal was harder than Jan?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:57 pm: Edit

the r-t r+t one was D, undeterminable

for the y-coordinate, it was B, y is greater

for the ironic "suspicion" one, it's because it's usually negative but he uses it positively

bcrichsolo is correct in all his answers.

By Jerseygirl05 (Jerseygirl05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:59 pm: Edit

the prime question with if you have r and q, then which of the following is another prime number?
1.r+q
2.r+2q
3.r+3q

its none right because 3+5=8, 2(17)+11=45 and 3+3(5)=18

anyone get that

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 01:59 pm: Edit

What did you guys get for the gridin where they wanted you to give the age of the 7th committee member or something like that?

By Athlonmj (Athlonmj) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:00 pm: Edit

20

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:01 pm: Edit

I had 20 for the committee.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:01 pm: Edit

smadan- yeah I got 4 B;'s in a row for analogies. I was feeling uneasy, but they seemed right...

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:02 pm: Edit

Jerseygirl, it's II only

if you had 3 + 2(5) = 13, 13 is prime.

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:03 pm: Edit

I stupidly wasted time time on one of the QCs and didn't get to the last 3 grin-ins. Then on the last math section (15 min one)I omitted #9. It was a simple geometry equation with p+r and the 55 degree angle, but I couldn't remember how to do it haha. What type of math score would I receive with 3 grin-ins omitted and one other ? omitted?

The verbal wasn't too bad - don't care about discussing it much b/c most of the answers on collegeconfidential concerning the verbal tend to be wrong 75% of the time, hehe.

But for the math....

I'm pertty sure the (x-t)^2 - (x-r)^2 = 1 was D because the graph would simply be a circle with a radius of 1. The t and r points would determine the placement of the center of the cirlce, which can be anything based on the info given.

The last QC was B, yep. The y value had to be bigger than x because the line drawn was y=x. Anything below y=x makes the x value greater than the y value, x=y draws the line obviously, and finally a greater y value than x places the point in the shaded region.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit

sorry if this makes anyone feel bad...but...

PERFECT RAW SCORE!!! *does a little dance*

well, assuming I didn't misbubble stuff, which I do a lot. I circle the right answer in my test booklet but then, for some reason, transfer it wrong to the answer sheet.

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit

Thank you! :)

Also, for people whose order was math mc, verbal, math mc, math qc, verbal, math, verbal...any guesses as to which math was experimental, 1 or 3? (I'm hoping it's 3!)

By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:05 pm: Edit

MATH

What was the answer to the qc about the mean age of 10 people being 29?

By Jerseygirl05 (Jerseygirl05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit

Oh whoops. I thought they asked to prove it wrong.

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:06 pm: Edit

HEY GUYS...I HAVE A QUESTION...

verbal...last section that is 15 minutes:
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER what they got to the LAST QUESTION?? B or C??

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit

Bianchi- I suck at math but I put 20... but that could be wrong.

By Jerseygirl05 (Jerseygirl05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:10 pm: Edit

Bianchi- I put d but I wasn't positive.

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:10 pm: Edit

Guys I know the cone problem was addressed above but can someone explain it once again to me.

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:13 pm: Edit

For the cone problem I set up a ratio...

I forget the dimensions of the cone but it was something like this...
3/x = 12/10 Solve for x and get 2.5

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:13 pm: Edit

i had Hurston, remembering and inaccuracy of that, and George visiting island, and Roman Numerals... I am so mixed up as to which ones were in which Section and which ones did or didn;t count

By Bfjava (Bfjava) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:15 pm: Edit

Yep, the cone one was simple ratios.

It gave the height and radius of the big cone and the height of the small cone. Setup a ration r/h = r/h and solve for r of the smaller cone. Get it?

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:16 pm: Edit

For the triangle problem with the triangle(a) thing I got 2*triangle(a) - 2 and for the reciprocal one I got 1/3. Can someone confirm those?

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:16 pm: Edit

Ya i get it thanks...oh man my mind was off and i set the ratio using two different heights....like one was to the other height and one was to the top...oh man

By Jens (Jens) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:17 pm: Edit

EXPERIMENTAL Q:

The verbal one about marrying is experimental b/c i didnt have that one.

Did any of u guys with the verbal experimental have a section for math that involved finding the other side of a polygon as the last question?

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit

bianchi...the answer was 20

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit

Tree: I agree with you on both those problems and i think the consensus is that those are the correct answers

By Athlonmj (Athlonmj) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:18 pm: Edit

Did anyone get more than 4 for the p percent of 1/p is 1 percent of 1 question.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:19 pm: Edit

does anyone remember a question w/ the answer choice as utter bewilderment? another possible answer was intense pleasure

it was a critical reading question

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit

I got more than four. In fact i got there is an invite amount. .05 times 1/5 equals .01 .06 times 1/6 equals .01 I hope i have the right logic there.

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit

Yeah, the .0p * (1/p) has infinite solutions.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:21 pm: Edit

yea it was intense pleasure b/c he was so happy that he couldn't find words to describe wat he was experiencing

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Oh yess it had to do with the man who came from being homelss and now he is visiting the island. And it has to do with his reaction. I was torn between those two answers but i put intense pleasure

By Bianchi23 (Bianchi23) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:21 pm: Edit

jerseygirl- i got d as well...hopefully it's correct!

ilovecollege- we must be thinking of different problems b/c mine was a comparison

By Romastaflex (Romastaflex) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:24 pm: Edit

wait if the age of the seventh member was 20 then the average would no longer be 38 or wutever it was. i got up to 22 and then it sed the difference between the oldest and the youngest was 17. 20 would change the average wouldnt it? i left it blank

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:25 pm: Edit

bianchi...o oops sry bout that then!

i asked earlier but ANYONE HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT THE LAST VERBAL SECTION (15 MIN COMPARING 2 PASSAGES) the LAST QUESTION WAS???

b or c???

thanks guys!

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:26 pm: Edit

(2^x)(3^y)(4^z) = 6^k
first waht was this answer
second, was this in the experiemtnal?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:26 pm: Edit

(2^x)(3^y)(4^z) = 6^k
first waht was this answer
second, was this in the experiemtnal?

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:26 pm: Edit

It didn't say average it said median romasta...That was just there so u wouldn't choose a number that was 17 greater than the next lowest. It was there so there would only be the answer of 17 less than the greatest

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:27 pm: Edit

For the seven age question, they stated Median not Mean. The answer is 20. (30 - 17) I'm absolutely sure.

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:27 pm: Edit

Ilove college if u could remember any part of the question i may be able to tell you what i put but if not sorrz.

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Romastaflex--I guess the reason why I put 20 was cuz it said the MEDIAN was 38?? I could totally have read it wrong

anyone else remember??

By Sabinscabin (Sabinscabin) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:28 pm: Edit

it was the median age was 28

yes the answer is 20

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Oops I mean 37 - 17 not 30 - 17. :/

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Tree just to correct you u mean 37-17 not 30-17.

By Sabinscabin (Sabinscabin) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:29 pm: Edit

haha this thread gets like 3 posts a second

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:29 pm: Edit

ilovecollege the answer was b, personal experiences

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Guys who ever had
Verbal
verbal
math
verbal
math
verbal
math.

Was the 2nd verbal experimental?

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit

ilovecollege i agree with hewashere it was b personal experiences. That was the difference between the two guys.

By Reject (Reject) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit

2 questions

was it the neighbors from childhook the one that both adults would remember?

intense pleasure or smug satisfaction?
i thought no to intense pleasure because ETS doesnt put anything too extreme

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:32 pm: Edit

Way ahead of ya, Way2goidho. :P

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:32 pm: Edit

ahh way2goidho...thats the problem! I really cant remember the question!! thnx tho!!

hey anyone else who remembers the LAST QUESTION OF LAST VERBAL (15MIN) SECTION...id really appreciate it!! =)

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:33 pm: Edit

My personal opinion to you reject is intense pleasure for the homeless boy who is an adult and now seeing the island and i guess that it would be the child who broke him ankle and then being told by his mother because the two are interweaved but those are just opinions

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:33 pm: Edit

I think the grandmother one was experimental because I screwed it up. :P :P :P :P

By Cleanfreak (Cleanfreak) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

what did people get for the last qv with the shaded triangle?

By Cleanfreak (Cleanfreak) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

what did people get for the last qv with the shaded triangle?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

reject-
yes to neighbors from childhood and no to smug satisfaction (he wasn't able to describe the joy he was experiencing so the answer was intense pleasure)

By Cleanfreak (Cleanfreak) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

what did people get for the last qc with the shaded triangle?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

Can we come to a consensus on these 2 questions?

Utter Bewilderment or intense pleasure?

Meaning of vital.

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:36 pm: Edit

ooo haha thanks so much hewashere...

another question!! I think everyone already talked bout this but I wanted to make sure...

that MATH question with like first 3 prime numbers and it was roman numerals I, II, or III...question was if u do I II or III would you get prime number...

anyone who remembers the problem exactly please remind me of the problem and explain in briefly??? THANK YOU =)

By Snoflakeinjuly (Snoflakeinjuly) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:36 pm: Edit

does anyone remember what they put for 8 on the multiple choice section, asking about the folded box...which side would be parallel...for some reason my mind blanked and i just guessed B...thanks

By Cleanfreak (Cleanfreak) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit

what did u get for the shaded triangle in qc

By Tree (Tree) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:39 pm: Edit

I said B was greater on the shaded triangle thing.

By Reject (Reject) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:40 pm: Edit

character = tenor or role?

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:40 pm: Edit

i put intsense pleasure.

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:41 pm: Edit

no the neighbor childhood answer says nothing about parents. the answer must contain something about their parents which would make them both remember. the only answer is one about their mother

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:41 pm: Edit

lets see it was
choose two prime neither can be two.

I) a+b
II)a+2b
III))a+3b
which one could give a prime number... I and III will always give even numbers so they are out and II can give one using 3 and 5. Some may have said it can't because they chose a number like 11 and 5 which gives 27 and that number is not prime. But the question said COULD give a prime number. I believe that was the problem but i can't be 100% sure

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:42 pm: Edit

Billiam--I'm pretty sure he felt intense pleasure & that vital means fundamental.

Does anyone remember any more gridins? As I was leaving the test center, I wrote down what answers I got...by any chance do 180, 2, 100, and 160 sound familiar? I'm afraid I completely screwed up that QC section!

By Reject (Reject) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:42 pm: Edit

was pretext D or E?

By Reject (Reject) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:42 pm: Edit

was pretext D or E?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:43 pm: Edit

Here are my 2 general questions

When can we recieve scores?

How hard was the actual test???
I know i got > or equal to 58/60 on math
I know i got a bunch wrong on verbal but no idea

Was math or verbal hard compared to other tests and what is ur predicted curve?

By Way2goidho (Way2goidho) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:44 pm: Edit

Joyn those answers sound very familiar. 100 was the distance the the burried tressure.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:44 pm: Edit

what about that prob with the sum of a number's digits equals the product of those same digits? (between 10 and 50)? i got 22 only, so i put "one"

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:46 pm: Edit

QC: line l and line m intersect at a perpendicular point, x. What is the total number of points on lines m and n that is one unit away from x?

Was this C?

Yeah, for verbal section 5, with the guy and fishing: I got four B's in a row. How'd everyone do so far? I've gotten one verbal and one math wrong so far . . .

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:47 pm: Edit

what was the answer to the analogy usurp:position?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:47 pm: Edit

10 was the distance man, you ahd to get the square root of 100 because it's hypotenuse

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:48 pm: Edit

what was the answer to the analogy usurp:position?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:49 pm: Edit

I dont think 100 was the buried treasure - that was 10, wasnt it?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:50 pm: Edit

usurp:position i got STEAL:PROPERTY or something

By Studyguy346 (Studyguy346) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:50 pm: Edit

MATH Q (NOT EXPERIMENTAL)

The quant comp that had

(r+t) (r-t) (multiplied has to = 1)

somewhere said the answer was D. How can this be? If it is D, please give values that PROVE that the answer is NOT C, which is what I put.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:51 pm: Edit

you USURP a POSITION by way of like... thief-like stuff, and you STEAL a PROPERTY by way of like.. thief-like stuff

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:51 pm: Edit

usurp:position steal:property

By Glory (Glory) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:51 pm: Edit

doerame: do you remember the answer choices for usurp: position?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:51 pm: Edit

usurp:position

steal:property

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:52 pm: Edit

Joyn...i agree with you about intense pleasure and fundamental...but im not 100% sure!

Way2goidho...thank you!!! but was it true that the answer isnt A.None? Also am I jus imagining something or did they say prime numbers ABOVE 2?? But im prob jus making stuff up =)

Joyn...I remember another question!! There was one that was $2, $3, and $5 gift certificate and u had to get like $57!! Hope that helps u remember some other questions!! =) Anyone remember that??

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit

does anyone remember any of the other choices for that one?

i know the answer wasn't the one w/ coup

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit

i got 6 for that one ilovecollege

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:54 pm: Edit

Studyguy...

R^2 - T^2 = 1

If R = 1, T = 0. Then R-T = R+T.

If R = sqRoot(2), T = 1. Then R-T < R+T.

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:54 pm: Edit

mreeves...for that 2 intersecting lines...isnt the answer 4? i dont kno if it was a b c or d sorry!!

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:56 pm: Edit

Guy asking for food from neigbors.....I put "delusion" I have no idea why I did that....

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:56 pm: Edit

yeah, it's 4 for the intersecting lines. That is C, because the other option they gave was 4.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:57 pm: Edit

COMPLETELY CORRECT MATH GRID-IN ANSWERS

1. $180
2. n = 2
3. 6 $3 gift certificates
4. Buried treasure is 10 away
5. First term is 1/3
6. 160 (m = 70, k = 90) was the easiest answer
7. 2.5 Small Cone Radius
8. 20 Last Guy's Age in the Median 28 group
9. 44 Overlapping Rectangles
10. 100 (Don't remember the question)

Anyone remember what question yielded the 100?

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:58 pm: Edit

ok cause the def of delusion is "something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated"

thats why i put delusion for the guy and sugar or whatever

By Ilovecollege (Ilovecollege) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:58 pm: Edit

songster87...sry i dont understand ur explanation!! ahh!! can u jus say again what u mean?? wait what was the problem again?? ahh sry guys i forgot a lot of these problems for some reason!!

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:59 pm: Edit

Auburn: that one is pretext.

Songster: i don't recall having 100.

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember an analogy that was like banal:originality?

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit

yeah i know its pretext now....but what the hell was i thinking with delusion?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:01 pm: Edit

Ilovecollege, my explanation was the one in QC where it asked...

R^2 - T^2 = 1
Which is greater: R+T or R-T?

The answer was D, not enough information.

This is because, it's possible that R+T equals R-T and it's also possible that R+T is greater than R-T.

If R = sqRoot(2), and T = 1, then it fits the equation R^2 - T^2 = 1. In this case, R+T is greater than R-T.

If R = 1, and T = 0, then it also fits the equation R^2 - T^2 = 1. In this case, R+T is equal to R-T.

Therefore, since R+T can both equal or be greater than R-T, the answer is *D,* not enough information.

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:02 pm: Edit

I also thought delusion because the sentence mentioned tricking the neighbors into not beiong suspicious........anyway that was a good question

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:03 pm: Edit

Kevin: I saw banal, but I did not pick that as an answer. I don't recall what I put though, as i dont know the answer choices.

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:03 pm: Edit

nono, banal:originality wasn't an answer; it was a question.

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit

FYI: THE SAT IS EASIER IF YOU SING "I HAVE CONFIDENCE" AND TELL YOURSELF THE TEST IS FUN, DURING THE TEST.

also it was my second time....so it was more relaxing

By Armadantiger (Armadantiger) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit

VERBAL

Vital : ((irreplacable. It is not fundamental. Read the passage carefully))

Also, I put ((utter bewilderment)) bc the story mentions about suspicion and how he is so amazed by the enviornment. I didnt put ((extreme pleasure))

QUESTION : What was the answer to MEmory (Last section of Verbal) question number one : "How would you describe passage 1" I put something like ""memory is created from experiences with highlights and lows"

Let's post up some MEMORY passage related questions if you can remember

By Armadantiger (Armadantiger) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit

VERBAL

Vital : ((irreplacable. It is not fundamental. Read the passage carefully))

Also, I put ((utter bewilderment)) bc the story mentions about suspicion and how he is so amazed by the enviornment. I didnt put ((extreme pleasure))

QUESTION : What was the answer to MEmory (Last section of Verbal) question number one : "How would you describe passage 1" I put something like ""memory is created from experiences with highlights and lows"

Let's post up some MEMORY passage related questions if you can remember

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:04 pm: Edit

Or...at least I think it was.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:05 pm: Edit

yeah i had the hardest time with the MEMORY passage section (15 minute one, last verbal)... but i can't remember most of them, because i ran out of time on that section.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit

wait are yoU SURE it's irreplaceable? many people agree with fundamental

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:07 pm: Edit

Hmmm, maybe it was experimental? I am positive i did not have a QUESTION with banal:originality. I do believe that I saw banal:something as an answer choice (dont know that it was originality...)

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:07 pm: Edit

SO IT WASN'T EXTREME PLEASURE? i suck at life

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:08 pm: Edit

i'm sure it was extreme pleasure

By Ender_238 (Ender_238) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:09 pm: Edit

For the math question about the polygons (what is the minimum number of faces in a 3-D figure in which all the faces are polygons), does anyone remember what letter answer that was? All I remember is that I put C.

By Slslslsllss (Slslslsllss) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit

Intense pleasure is wrong because it said "intense pleasure on returning home" - he wasn't returning home!

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:10 pm: Edit

Did anyone get remonstration for one?

Also...was the "laughter" an irrational force or a living thing?

By Chumboy87 (Chumboy87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:11 pm: Edit

ANYONE HAVE A REMOTE IDEA ABOUT THE CURVE THIS TIME?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:11 pm: Edit

i'm sure it was extreme pleasure

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:12 pm: Edit

Thanks for your grid-in list, Songster, that helps a lot!

People with 2 math MC sections (1+3), any idea which was experimental? I'm hoping it's 3...do you think they'd put the experimental one first?

By Slslslsllss (Slslslsllss) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:12 pm: Edit

Banal:originality was an incorrect answer choice

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:13 pm: Edit

not that intense pleasure one... wasn't there another intense pleasure one for that passage? something about the details he described (about the island as a whole)

By Armadantiger (Armadantiger) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:13 pm: Edit

Bewilderment : This poor guy who marries/or is going to get married with this woman visits a place he considers more than a "paradise" He is amazed at what he sees.. the trees the houses.
You can sense a kind of admiration he conveys. At least that¡¯s what I thought. He feels pleasure bc he returns home or something like that so no.

MY QUESTION (2nd time)
"How would you describe passage 1" I put something like ""memory is created from experiences with highlights and lows"

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:13 pm: Edit

I said laughter was a living thing, because it said "laughter was waiting for us".

Haruhara: why are you sure that it's extreme pleasure? He could not describe it, that is true. But one could argue that he could not describe it because he was bewildered, or because he was so happy.

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:14 pm: Edit

Ilcapo, I think the laughter was a living thing

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:15 pm: Edit

can't be highlights and lows because the author was saying how the mind blocks out and "forgets" the lows while concentrating on only the highs

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:16 pm: Edit

billiam2, could you tell me what you think the answer is? i think i'm mixing two questions together

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:17 pm: Edit

Usually people find things on the princeton review website giving a review of the test, if it has been used before. Has anyone found this test?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit

Haruhara: I said that the answer was Utter Bewilderment. You say that the answer is extreme pleasure. The question was What was the author's mood in these lines.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit

laughter was a living thing

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit

billiam please respond?

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:20 pm: Edit

The verbal one about marrying is experimental OR
The verbal one about FAS pictures of farms during the depression was.

Had a friend who didnt have the FAS one so I'm thinking thats the experimental, and i didnt have the marrying one so thats experiment too. Not positive, but kinda sure.

By Armadantiger (Armadantiger) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:22 pm: Edit

Charactor : Role

WHo else put role for this ??

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:23 pm: Edit

How are your counts for wrong so far? I have 4 math wrong (3 fill-in... and 1 MC) and I'm not sure on verbal.

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:24 pm: Edit

It can't be intense pleasure, he wasn't returning to his home.

Penitent:forgiveness doesn't work, because one who is penitent does not have forgiveness, he seeks it.

Anyone remember the math where there was a shaded region bounded by line y=x? I remember saying that B (y coordinate) must be greater.. is this right?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:24 pm: Edit

Character was tenor.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:25 pm: Edit

z00b: yes, B is correct.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:25 pm: Edit

Zoob - Yes, coordinate B (and thus answer B) must always be greater.

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:26 pm: Edit

And im not sure but the last question on verbal section was about what was not mentioned or something, and I guessed BUNGALOW because i didnt see that word in the passage, but i didnt really read most of it anyways

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:27 pm: Edit

What would be passage 1 author's response to passage 2 author's "I remember it clearly" Yankee game?

I thought it would be either it was an overly significant experience, or that memories are always somewhat fictional

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

I put grandmother's warmth, but I was rushed on that passage. It was between the grandma's warmth or bungalow. I believe bungalow was the term given to the two ladies at the beginning of the 2nd paragraph (or maybe 3rd?)

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:29 pm: Edit

I said bungalow, but im not sure about this character question. Can anyone tell me what the passage was about, and what the other options were?

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Tired, I remember the bungalow one, I put that as well. I think the Q was which of the following was not one of the author's reactions, and the phrasing was "the despair of the bungalow". I didn't remember any despair, so I put this.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:35 pm: Edit

What about the burden question in the roman numeral one??

By Molly_Sat (Molly_Sat) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:36 pm: Edit

I also put bungalow, because no where did the author mention his surprise to see a run down house. . . all he said was that it was small and yellow

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:37 pm: Edit

billiam2-
recall a mathematical operation?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:39 pm: Edit

WHAT WAS THE 2nd TO LAST GRID-IN?!?!? i cant rmemeber it at all!

By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:39 pm: Edit

Can someone guess what my math score might be so far? I know I got 3 grid-ins wrong.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit

Why though? There was no mathematical operation to be recalled. I put making new numbers out of things, or whatever. The question was talking about the difficulties that arise from having IV be 4 instead of IIII . The BEST answer would be because it makes forces you to memorize their notation. There was no operation to be done, so I figure it was the choice I said.

By Molly_Sat (Molly_Sat) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:40 pm: Edit

hmm the burden question . . .that was a toughie, I remember the question was like what does this imply about people's needs .. .i think i said something about the need for people to write numbers down but im not sure that was right

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:42 pm: Edit

hmm... the passage mentioned burdening our memory

By Vtoodler (Vtoodler) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit

What is a ratpack?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit

Are you saying people to write numbers down to keep track of their possessions? That was an answer choice, but different from the one I put. I'm not sure what the wording of my answer was though. If anyone knows the answer choice i'm talking about and can articulate it better, please do.

By Ehsc (Ehsc) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:45 pm: Edit

yes there was a math operation to be done with the roman numeral passage, as it was mentioned in the first paragraph, why 5-1 and not 6-2. It's simple subtraction.

By Joeybg (Joeybg) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit

http://www.princetonreview.com/college/testprep/testprep.asp?TPRPAGE=515&TYPE=SAT

Doesn't Form ZC look familiar?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:47 pm: Edit

Well then, where does X come from to represent 10? My point is that it forces you to memorize the symbols, as opposed to simply counting the hashes.

By Osnapjew (Osnapjew) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit

i said the burden was the need for people to do a simple calculation

IV = 4-1

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit

For roman numerals

Why did they need/want it? Something about Being able to easily glance and see the number. The author talked about how IIIIIII and IIIIIIIIIII look similar.

I said the burden was mathematical operation, IV is 5-1, which is also talked about for a few sentences.

By Socalnick (Socalnick) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit

Did anyone else recognise the passages from reading them before. I rember the roman numeral one and the memory ones, i dont rember from where though.

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:51 pm: Edit

Could be PSAT. I remember seing PSAT grammar questions on the SAT II writing.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit

Hey, did you all find the math easier or harder than tests in the recent past? (2002 or later).

Do you think 1 math wrong will still be an 800 for this one? I can't tell if this was an "easy" one or a "hard" one.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit

I thought it was pretty easy, though there were some pretty hard ones for SAT math. Probably 2 wrong would be 800, but no more after that.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 03:57 pm: Edit

Joey, I took a look at the June Archives here, and the June 7 discussion. Their questions look nothing like ours, despite the similarity that you see from PR's description. So i dont think they're the same tests.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:02 pm: Edit

Yeah, I thought it was pretty hard too. But all the SAT I math questions I was practicing on were from the mid-90s. And the SAT I math has ramped up in difficulty significantly.

So I can't tell whether -1 raw will be 800, 790, or 780.

Can anyone make an educated guess at what it will be? Keeping in mind that you really have to compare this to SAT I Math sections from 2001/2002 or later to get an accurate curve...

Thanks!

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:02 pm: Edit

How often is one math wrong still an 800?
What do you think will happen on this one?

I'm dying to know because I think I may have gotten a 1600 if it is. I realized I missed a math free response right at the end when it was too late to fix it(the odd/even digit difference problem -- 9887.) I made a dumb mistake and did 8999 - 111 instead of 9998 - 111 (D'oh!)

BTW Impasse: Progress :: Stalemate: Continue
IMO

Thanks

By Hidavid (Hidavid) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:05 pm: Edit

somebody can explain the 2,3,5 $ 57 dollars problem? how can the answer be 6 ?????

By Vtoodler (Vtoodler) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:09 pm: Edit

"How often is one math wrong still an 800?"
---very often

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:13 pm: Edit

It wasnt highs and lows. Im pretty sure it was something else.

Also: There was a weird sentence compeltion question. It was second one, i believe, and it was something about mass protests and political considerations... I put minimize. Other choices were diregard, etc.

Anyone remember that one?

Also, what was the last math grid in question?

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:13 pm: Edit

IMO, the math on this SAT was far easier than that on the January 24th SAT. But, again, that's just my opinion.

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:15 pm: Edit

The last math grid-in question was:

A sequence is defined by finding each succesive term by adding 1 to the reciprical of the preceding term. Letting the first term be a, the second b, and the third c, and the fact that bc = 5, find a. (b = 1/a + 1 and c = 1/b + 1)

And a = 1/3

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

Math A - how to do last grid in:

bc = 5
b(1+1/b) = 5
b+1 = 5
b = 4
b = 1+1/a
4 = 1+1/a
3 = 1/a
a = 1/3

By Molly_Sat (Molly_Sat) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:18 pm: Edit

Billiam, yeah that's the one I put sorry my message didn't make much sense. I said that they needed to write down the numbers to keep track of possesions because in clause after it talks about the farmer counting his sheep

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:21 pm: Edit

no billiam's right; at the time i forgot that the question asked for what need was IMPLIED and thus if you're burdened with having to recall things then the implied need would be to come up with new symbols.

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:28 pm: Edit

Hmm so then songster's grid-in list is off by a little. I got worried cause of that 100 for the last one.. Got 1/3 though.

z00b, I also put mathematical operation 5-1 for the burden question.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:31 pm: Edit

hmm... on second thought billiam2 could be wrong.
does anyone remember the context of the sentence with the word burdening? like was the author talking about trying to rationalize the symbols?

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:33 pm: Edit

i promised myself i wouldn't go to this website. now i'm mad, because i did worse than i expected

i know i got 1 analogy wrong so far (unfathomable: understanding...)

and if "tenor," "irreplaceable" and "bewilderment" are correct, then I got 3 more wrong

I HOPE I HOPE *prays* those are the only ones in verbal i got wrong...4 wrong in verbal is like 730-760...right?

in math i don't know what i got wrong...probably something....but i left off a grid in cause i ran out of time....

does anyone think that "role," "intense pleasure," or "fundamental" could be correct?

i'm thinking role was a distractor and i fell for it

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:35 pm: Edit

oops it looks like minutes: meeting as trial: transcript was another i got wrong...i put agenda: conference

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:36 pm: Edit

Okay, about the math one, where the a was inside a triangle, I plugged in like ten numbers, and only the one with (2/a\)+2worked. Anyone?

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:38 pm: Edit

I put "Fundamental" cuz I read the thing over, and its idea were "fundamental"...I dunno...might be wrong.
Experimentals: I got one that's was like with two short short passages, with one about shopping and the other about light...anyone?

By Luckystar1111 (Luckystar1111) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:40 pm: Edit

Encomium, I think that "tenor," "intense pleasure," and "fundamental" were correct. Tenor=overall nature, or character. In the bungalow story, the author is asking rhetorical questions to emphasize the beauty and pleasure around him, not his bewilderment. And "fundamental"--well, it just seemed more right than the rest (including "irreplaceable").

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:41 pm: Edit

I really doubt inteanse pleasure is right, because it is too extreme. Bewilderment is more general. In a sense intense pleasure is an extreme of bewilderment, so i would choose bewildermnent. But hey, you can never be too sure in critical reading.

By Luckystar1111 (Luckystar1111) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:42 pm: Edit

By the way, did anyone have a paired reading passage on Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech? It was on my first section in verbal, so it couldn't have been experimental. I know that I had an experimental verbal, and I can't figure out which one it was.

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:45 pm: Edit

hey you guys, if u got the test that went VERBAL (36 q) Verbal (30 q) math math verbal (35) math verbal (13. The first one is experimental (teh one with the 2 short passages about fredrick douglass and such. Verbal =78 questions (30 +50 +13=78).
I got intense pleasure (y would he be bewildered?) and i think this was an answer, the roman numerals were a burden because you couldn't calculate them from a simple glance,
answer 2 someones question- ratpack is someone who hoards stuff or keeps syuff for a long time and never throws anything away.
What would be passage 1 author's response to passage 2 author's "I remember it clearly" Yankee game? becuase the other guy said that memories are almost always partially fictional.
vital= fundamental (fundamental in the sense that it was necessary).
U can get your scores online on April 9

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:45 pm: Edit

the extreme arguement is good...but bewilderment: "The condition of being confused or disoriented" just doesn't make sense to me...he seemed so descriptive and reflective on the things he loved/was jealous of his wife for having such a family life...he also described it as a paradise...

and also doesn't saying "utter" bewilderment make that extreme too?

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:48 pm: Edit

Intense Pleasure...I concur.

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:48 pm: Edit

where was this Impasse question? was that on an experimental?

did anyone else get

1. verbal--the one that had usurp: position in it
2. math
3. math--qc's and stuff
4. verbal--the one with lots of analogies
5. math--regular math questions
6. verbal-double passage
7. math--10 questions

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:48 pm: Edit

What would be passage 1 author's response to passage 2 author's "I remember it clearly" Yankee game? becuase the other guy said that memories are almost always partially fictional.

was partially fictional D?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:49 pm: Edit

"There was a weird sentence compeltion question. It was second one, i believe, and it was something about mass protests and political considerations... I put minimize."

I put minimize too, but it was weird cuz that was qestion number 3 and it was supposed to be easy but i was like "what is this?!" minimize made the most sense to me though

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

You can never be too certain about Critical reading. What i got out of it was that he was marvelled by the beauty to the point in which he was describing it with poetry.

The memory thing, what was the question? the argument is between yankee game and dog or something.

By Jerseygirl05 (Jerseygirl05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

I had

1. Verbal
2. Verbal
3. Math
4. Math
5. Verbal
6. Math
7. Verbal

Was this an old test?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:50 pm: Edit

simplyloved, do u remember putting D for the I remember it clearly question?

By Hiya (Hiya) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:51 pm: Edit

DID EVERYONE HAVE THE CR SECTION ABOUT THE COLD WAR AND NIXON???

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

impasse.. what = impregnatable:conquest

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

what did everyone get for "unfathomable:understanding"?

By Emmittsmith (Emmittsmith) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

I didn't have coldwar and nixon

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:54 pm: Edit

anyone get like "something:chicanery" for one of the sentence completions? specifically, the one about the science project or something (at the end it had something about skewed results, and the 2nd word of one of the answer choices was collude)?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:55 pm: Edit

Hewadhre i have no idea what letter it was, sorry. but i'm sure someone else remembers. Hiya, no, i did not have a CR about the Cold War and Nixon. sorry

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:55 pm: Edit

for "UNFATHOMABLE:UNDERSTANDING" i put down "IMPREGNABLE:CONQUEST"

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:57 pm: Edit

yeah i head wrongheaded and chicanery for an SC

does anyone else hate that feeling you get finding out you got questions wrong?

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:59 pm: Edit

for the math one, wasnt the perimeter of the rectangle/square 38, because it cant be 44 because the perimeter didnt go all the way back to point A; it stopped at VD.

for the math one, cant the least number of faces for a 3D polygon be 2, in a cylinder, but is that a polygon or whatever?

and for the verbal one, i dont think its chicanery; i think it has to w/ blank: remonstrance.

any thoughts?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:59 pm: Edit

-haruhara
unfathomable:understanding impregnable: conquest
and yes the answer was something, chicanery

simplyloved, thanks anyway

By Osnapjew (Osnapjew) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit

i'm so pissed that i went here. i promised myself i wouldn't. yeah, economium, i HATE that feeling...now i know for CERTAIN that i missed 3 math, at LEAST. i'm praying for a 1500 so i don't think that i'm in good shape..

should i cancel?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit

hasn't happened to me yet :D

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:02 pm: Edit

hewashere.. anytime

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:03 pm: Edit

scion...for notation in polygons...if the letters include all the vertices of the sides...then they're talking about the perimeter of the whole thing

example...draw a rectangle ABCD...the perimeter of rectangle ABCD includes side AD

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:03 pm: Edit

Posting a second time to get more opinions...

I can't tell whether -1 raw on the Math Section will be 800, 790, or 780.

Can anyone make an educated guess at what it will be? Keeping in mind that you really have to compare this to SAT I Math sections from 2001/2002 or later to get an accurate curve...

Thanks!

By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:05 pm: Edit

Scion- I also got 38 for perimeter but everyone said something diffrent so I was sure I was wrong. maybe not!

To those about what memory will be forgotten- it is the dog because the author said you best remember things that you experience alot, and the guy was in charge for caring about the dog. I also did not have a cold war/nixon passage. This is what my version looked like:

1. Verbal (2 very short passages/puerto rican girl coming to NY)
2. Verbal (About some black writer)
3. Math (25 Q)
4. Math (GI/QC)
5. Verbal (the man visiting the old ladies)
6. Math (15 min.)
7. Verbal (memory)

By Encomium (Encomium) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:05 pm: Edit

I don't remember what i got for the perimeter, though

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:07 pm: Edit

I coulda sworn the perimeter was 42...

By Gangstar (Gangstar) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit

scion-ur gay. ur also wrong. sats was so easy.

By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit

Some more ?'s:

-About the camera that saw the caught the store owner making corrupt deals, was it parsimony
-what was answer to anology with contrite:regret
(was it reticent:forgive)
-yes i couldn't make out the sentence comp with political protest. I also put minimized.
-what about the sentence comp with babies/alergies. was it predisposed?
-what about the math one in which you had to figure out which side will be opposite a particlular side. i think it is B, but I might be wrong
-When will we find out which was the experimental?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:11 pm: Edit

contrite:regret --> aspiring:ambition (this has been answered SEVERAL times already)

minimized was one of the answers, don't remember which

babies/allergies was prone/deleterious

B was the opposite side on the cube/die

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:12 pm: Edit

songster, correct me if i'm wrong but i'm getting teh vibe that you answered them all right. well that would be a 59. In my 10Reals book 7 out of the 10 times an 800 has included 59. In the other 3 times it was only a perfect 60. I like those odds though. Good luck, i hope you got your 800!

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:16 pm: Edit

Not parsimony, venality.
Not reticent, aspiration:ambitious.
I hope minimized is correct.
Allergies: it was the pair that said NOT exposing to germs was bad.
Side was B, im fairly positive.

No one said its irreplaceable over fundamental.. Either one could be right. Convincing arguements havent been made for either case.

Also, encomium, 3-4 wrong is 730-760!? Where'd you hear this. My friend took it in December and she got 3 wrong, 800. Unless you want to be PERFECT, then 3-4 wrong is fine.

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:18 pm: Edit

fundamental for vital? i dont think so- Metra, i agree w/ u. vital might mean irreplaceable in that scenario

tenor? it COULD also be role though.

the two siblings would remember the next door neighbors

"the last quant comp. I put B is greater (y coordinate) can any1 confirm"
i think its D, cuz the point could be REALLY close to A, or near the edges on top?
any other opinions?

"the r-t r+t one was D, undeterminable" shouldnt it be C?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:20 pm: Edit

for the question with "babies/allergies" do you remember any of teh other answer choices.. mainly answer choice B. Also, do you guys remember the SC about the conservatist.. was the answer ephemral and whatever the second word was. thanx!!

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:21 pm: Edit

In attempt to settle the bewilderment/pleasure argument -- If anyone were to look at the lines before/after the reference lines they would see he also talks about breathing in air that smells like forever and the ripples in the water, etc. He is not "bewildered" by this, he is bathing in pleasure, enjoying what is around him.
That was my reasoning anyway...

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Whoops...Double post

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:28 pm: Edit

At first he mightve been bewildered, but then the pleasure took over him. Usually, bewilderment isnt accompanied by pleasure, but, rather, confusion. However, you can clearly see that he was enjoying the atmosphere and that the island was the missing piece in his life. More like he was pleasantly startled rather than bewildered.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:34 pm: Edit

wat was the arbitrary number for the roman numerals passage?

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit

Here's my argument for why it couldnt have been irreplaceable. It simply means that it is something that cannot be replaced, it does not have any connotations of being important. Something can be irreplaceable but be of no value. If something is fundamental, it is necessary. --> I win.

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:38 pm: Edit

arbitrary number? do u mean the number tah would fit the simple-understanding thingl.. where it was between arabic #'s 3, 4 and 11 and the Roman version of 4 and 5? If that was the question then i picked 11. could be wrong though

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:40 pm: Edit

i chose arabic 11 also; it specifically said that arabic 2,3 came about as a result of the original numbers becoming simplified.

By Jens (Jens) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit

OK EXPERIMENTAL Q (SINCE NO ONE ANSWERED ABOVE):
We've pretty much established which verbal was experimental, but how bout math?!?! dont leave us math people hanging.
my test:
v
m
m
v
m
the 2 15 mins

im guessing section2 math is experimental (one with the quadrilateral where they give u given angles and a side and u had to find another side).

Anyone?!

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:43 pm: Edit

actually fundamental also meas basic and in my interpretation of the passage, fundamental meant basic which, in my interpretation, also meant vital.

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:44 pm: Edit

also look at the vey last word:
Entry: fundamental
Function: adjective
Definition: basic
Synonyms: axiological, axiomatic, basal, bottom, bottom line, cardinal, central, constitutional, constitutive, crucial, elemental, elementary, essential, first, foundational, grass roots, indispensable, integral, intrinsic, key, major, meat-and-potatoes, necessary, nitty-gritty, organic, original, paramount, primary, prime, primitive, primordial, principal, radical, requisite, rudimentary, significant, structural, substratal, substrative, supporting, sustaining, theoretical, underived, underlying, vital

THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THE ANSWER WAS FUNDAMENTAL.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:45 pm: Edit

MINUTES:MEETING?

By Teal (Teal) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:47 pm: Edit

What does 'charged most nearly mean?

assserted or assaulted??

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:47 pm: Edit

It is chicanry, because it said they were foolish, and there might have been attempts at skewing the data. chicanry = deception, trickery

3d polygon is 4 -- triangular prism, though for some reason i convinced myself those can't exist ugh!

I thought it was bewildered, because he is unable to describe his sensory experience, and comes up with a clever phrase "to forever" to explain it. He hadn't ever felt anything like that before.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit

does anyone remember the context of the word vital?

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:51 pm: Edit

Minutes:meeting is transcript:trial

minutes are a record of a meeting. Transcript is a record of a trial.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:53 pm: Edit

Math Q. Hey the cone one was 2.5 right? and the answer to the 3d shape is 5!!!!!!!!!!!! a pyramid has 5 faces!!!!!!!!!!

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:53 pm: Edit

Charged, I thought meant asserted. It was phrased something like "Most authors, Hurston charged, were happy with writing what people liked blah blah"

She was making an assertion about other authors, not assaulting anyone or anything.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:54 pm: Edit

How do you all feel about your scores. I dont think I succeded with my 800 in math but i probably got 720+. I am so not sure about this verbal. I was so nervous (my first time taking the test) that I screwed up section 1 which was verbal. If i could pull a 620+ verbal then i guess by score would balance out... I thought some vocabulary on the harder SC and analogies was harder than normal tests so i got alot wrong. I just hope i got CR right and the easy ones right

By Metra (Metra) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

Damn..

Not the agenda one?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

Charged, I thought meant asserted
the cone one was 2.5 right
answer to the 3d shape could've been 5.. i got 5.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:55 pm: Edit

I definitely pulled a 700+ in math, but in verbal...........not so great. dandy : foppish. how crazy is that??

By Aurora05 (Aurora05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:56 pm: Edit

i'm still confused about the experimental section too, jens

1 Verbal - (hurston)
2 Math
3 Math - (QCs and GIn)
4 Verbal
5 Math
6 Verbal - 15 min (memory)
7 Math - 15 min

i had hat roman nums passage somewhere in there, and i remember my section 5 had the fold-up box problem. so does that mean my section 2 was experimental??? (prays)

jens - i remember a problem like that, my answer was...6, i believe? so did we both have the same experimental?

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:56 pm: Edit

thanks simplyloved. how did you think your scores were?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:57 pm: Edit

damn.... not agenda:conference...?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

i just want a 1200.. i'm not asking for much. I bet you did great, right?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 05:59 pm: Edit

what about the roman numeral thing?

i put arabic 3 because it is the least arbitrary compared to the others, which were very arbitrary

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit

I was aiming for a 1400 going into the test. After that first verbal where i was so nervous I am hoping i can just break 1300

By Socalnick (Socalnick) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit

the 3d shape is 4 a pyrmid with a triangular base. a 5 sided pyrmid has a square base.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:00 pm: Edit

whats precipitous or precipitate an answer?

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:01 pm: Edit

what about 11.. teh arabic 3 is the number 3 so wouldn't ppl suspect that it was one because it had one marking? but 11 could mean either 1+1 which would be 2 or 1 next to 1 which would be 11.

By Sabinscabin (Sabinscabin) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:01 pm: Edit

for vital i put fundamental

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Yeah, I thought I got 78/78 and 60/60. Except then I realized even though I had 10 written down on my test booklet for the pirate one, I managed to bubble in 100 accidentally.

What makes it even worse is that the proctor jipped us on that section by giving us only 25 minutes (I was timing) accidentally, and I was too shy to protest.

Anyway, I'm wondering if a 78/78 and 59/60 will get me a 1600, 1590, or 1580.

I thought the math was hardish for SAT I, so I'm hoping for a 1600 still.

Anyone else have opinions on whether 59/60 will be 800, 790, or 780 for this test?

By Chumboy87 (Chumboy87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Jens, I think section 2 math, if you had it, was experimental also. I had section 2 math and it was just wierder than the rest. I didn't have any of the passages that were described above, so I think my math was the experimental, and since section 2 set itself apart, I'd say it was the experimental.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:02 pm: Edit

but it asked for the least arbitrary

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:03 pm: Edit

concerning the vital thing, all the choices are synonyms of vital. They cant put words there if it doesnt mean vital or they'd get sued by dictionaries.

By Chumboy87 (Chumboy87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:05 pm: Edit

Songster 87,
Are you sure you got ALL of them right? If so, damn, you're good. But you never know, so don't get your hopes up too soon.

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:06 pm: Edit

so y would 3 be least arbitrary?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:08 pm: Edit

didn't that question ask which would be the most arbitrary progression like IV to V and something to 11, I to II, ect.?

By Z00b (Z00b) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:11 pm: Edit

I was nearly sure it was precipitously because he came in and made huge changes without consulting anyone, but American heritage says it's a usage problem.

1. Resembling a precipice; extremely steep. See Synonyms at steep1.
2. Having several precipices: a precipitous bluff.
3. Usage Problem. Extremely rapid, hasty, or abrupt

Oh well, Webster and Princeton dictionaries disagree.

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:13 pm: Edit

Lucky - I had the MLK passage, it was the experimental. Was that the one that had "dandy : foppish" on it (I got that question right, but I thought the section was hard as a whole).

I'm feeling really good right now, mostly about math, but verbal too. If the math curve turns out to be 800, 800, something, that would make me feel a lot better.

By Adidasty (Adidasty) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:16 pm: Edit

nah, simplyloved, but dont worry. i only got a 1220 last time i took the SAT on oct 2003, and so im sure u will at least beat that. i am aiming for high 1300's or 1400's

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:17 pm: Edit

Oh, and songster. Did you mistype your last fill in onto CC, or did you put 100? I think we're all pretty sure the answer is 1/3

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:19 pm: Edit

i think the MLK passage was experimental i would hink, because i didn't have it.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:23 pm: Edit

Everyone keeps talking about the hard problems. Does anyone remember medium level analogies or SC. This is where i messed up...

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:23 pm: Edit

Everyone keeps talking about the hard problems. Does anyone remember medium level analogies or SC. This is where i messed up...

By Teal (Teal) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:24 pm: Edit

for those of you who took SAT's not for the first time: Was TODAY's more difficult or easier?

By Netmet (Netmet) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:26 pm: Edit

in CR- did anyone get an answer that was kind of like a double negative---it said something was "not unlikely"?

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:26 pm: Edit

[concerning the vital thing, all the choices are synonyms of vital. They cant put words there if it doesnt mean vital or they'd get sued by dictionaries. ]
Wow, thats the most retarded thing i've ever heard. Yes, they all are related to vital. But if they all meant the exact same thing, then you couldnt answer it. Each definition has a shade of meaning.

By Jerseygirl05 (Jerseygirl05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:27 pm: Edit

What would you guys think a math score would be with one fill-in wrong, two multiple choice wrong, and one multiple left blank?

By Dcs13 (Dcs13) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:32 pm: Edit

for the least arbitrary number im almost certain its 3, the rule was as many horizantal bars as the number.

By Netmet (Netmet) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit

jerseygirl---id say around 730, or maybe 740 with a nicer curve....3 m/c wrong in november got you a 730.

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:38 pm: Edit

look up vital and get those word and i'll guarantee you that those words would belong to vital. You cant say vital and have it mean blue. SATs are taken around the world, they have to be extra careful of what the answer choices are because they have been sued many times. dont say things are retarded just because you dont agree with them.

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:40 pm: Edit

math grid in: wasnt perimeter of rectangle/square 38, cuz cant be 44 cuz perimeter didnt go all the way back to point A; it stopped at VD.

math m/c: cant least number of faces for 3D polygon be 2, in a cylinder, but is that a polygon?

verbal s/c: dont think its chicanery; think it was misguided: remonstrance.

any thoughts?

By Best_Wr (Best_Wr) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit

anyone remember any quant. comp questions beside those discussed here?

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit

it is precipitously because he made impetuous headstrong decisions without the consensus of his peers. Precipitous used as an adjective means just that.

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit

Teal - I thought verbal today was easier than usual (mostly critical reading.) Math was unusually difficult (by SAT standards.)

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:43 pm: Edit

for the "arbitrary" question it said LEAST arbitrary?

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:45 pm: Edit

does anyone remember if the Martin Luther King passage was in section 1 or 2? and whether it was in the experimental

By Laurenh87 (Laurenh87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit

Gmf05- I agree. I thought the verbal was very easy but the math was much tougher than usual

By Dcs13 (Dcs13) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:50 pm: Edit

i thought for the number, its said which one best proves the rule or whatever mentioned in the first paragraph, maybe i'm wrong

By Dcs13 (Dcs13) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:50 pm: Edit

i thought for the number, its said which one best proves the rule or whatever mentioned in the first paragraph, maybe i'm wrong

By Shortcakefairy (Shortcakefairy) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:51 pm: Edit

I hated the test
I hate this test
I HATE THE SAT!

okay i've vented!

wow...and the thing is..it's not even close to over..i'm going to take the ACT, then these SAT IIs, APs..and next year i'll have to retake either the SAT or ACT

oh grrr!

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:57 pm: Edit

The math was not very hard on this test. There were many trick questions but no questions which are very complex. There was one super hard question on the experimental section but that was it. The verbal was very clear except it seems like this verbal had more hard vocab words than others

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Scion: all of those are wrong. The perimiter is 44. A cylinder is not a polygon, neither is a circle. It was chicanery.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:00 pm: Edit

So far I know I have 4 wrong on math (3 grid-ins and 1 MC. That's a 55.75 --> 56 raw score. With no other answers wrong, what do you think the scale will be for that? 740-750? I omitted 7 verbal and I can't remember some of my answers for the greatly discussed CR ones, but I got a good portion of the analogies and SC discussed ones correct. And I omitted the hard analogies. Hoping for 650+ but I'm not sure I'll get it. I really need an awesome math grade. Anyway, again, possible scale for 56/60?

By Studyguy346 (Studyguy346) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit

for the question with "intense pleasue" and "bewilderment" as answers... what would wrong with the choice "smug satifaction"?

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:03 pm: Edit

does anyone think the martin luther king passage is experimental? or am i losing my mind

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:05 pm: Edit

MLK is definatly experiment section because i didnt get it

The math experiemental was the one with the 2^x(3^y)(4^z)=6^k question

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:06 pm: Edit

hey... never mind about the perimeter...

and never mind about the 3d polygon...

but i still think its irreplaceable, intense pleasure, and misguided:remonstrance

By Eastsoldier (Eastsoldier) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:07 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember how to solve that $3-certificate thing?

I wasted some minutes over that and put decimal answer
(The only one I'm sure I got wrong - in math)

Ahh... it was first trial for me and I messed it up (Especially English... expecting 300?)

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit

6- $3 certificates

how bout the water park survey? was it 2?

By Fireflyscout (Fireflyscout) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:12 pm: Edit

(what about the one that was like x+3w+2y=18... 2x+6w+7y=48?)
JM - I'm not sure if this has been answered, but I wanted to do it before I forgot. The one about y w/ the two equations, multiply the 1st equation (x+3w+2y=18) by -2 and x and z cancel out, leaving 3y=12 ... ending w/ y=4
(for any of you who know me, this is my daughter talking)

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:15 pm: Edit

Scion: yeah, i think that was 2, if i remember correctly.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:16 pm: Edit

Water Park survey was 2. It was 30-28 because u subtract 10/2 =5 from each of the two things.

I got thye $3 thingy wrong cuz im a dumby. I wrote 3. I forgot to multiply by 2 so im retarted.

The y=4 thingy i remember. Its correct.

By Benzo415 (Benzo415) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit

Wow. Today was my first time taking them since 8th grade (Hopkins program), and it was interesting to say the least. I got upset because my first two sections were verbal, so that threw me off a bit. They don't count one of the Verbal sections if you took four of them, right? (I'm hoping they don't count the 1st section with the MLK reading). But I loved the math. So far I think I only got one wrong (the R+T and R-T question). Verbal will need improvement though :(

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:20 pm: Edit

I think that the MLK double passage could not have been experimental because i think it was in the first section (which rarely is experimental) and because there were no other double passages in the test! (if i remember correctly)

By Modestmouse (Modestmouse) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:21 pm: Edit

Okay. I'm officially screwed! I didn't even think of the fifth side on the polygon.... And oh yeah, that second grid in, what was the question? I remember it being really easy but I can't remember if I gridded in two or four!!! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! And then I think I missed like one verbal, at least. AH! I'm like spazzing out. There goes my 1600. And Ty, get off this board and go do you Bio homework! Lol. Nah. Just kidding. Hey Ty(this is Pollie by the way, not some old guy), did you notice all of those little kids walking around at our test center? Were they talent search kids? Omg. Wouldn't that make the curve nicer? Okay. Forget this. I'm going to go do something that takes my mind off of all of this..... Right after I go look up the meaning of abstemious. Or whatever it was.

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit

Experimentals: (Once and for ALL)
-Martin Luther King
-Cold War and Nixon
-Native Americans
-Shopping & Light & the Reverend with the Kite Picture.
-Civil War

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit

Experimentals: (Once and for ALL)
-Martin Luther King
-Cold War and Nixon
-Native Americans
-Shopping & Light & the Reverend with the Kite Picture.
-Civil War

By Parabolic_Line (Parabolic_Line) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:23 pm: Edit

It was experimental. I had first section experimental too (Fairy tale passage).

By Just_Forget_Me (Just_Forget_Me) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:25 pm: Edit

MLK was most definitely experimental. If not everyone had it, then it has to be experimental.

Benzo-it was my first time taking it since 6th grade (Northwestern talent search), but not so surprising, since i made myself sit through a full practice test earlier this week.

By Traci87 (Traci87) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:29 pm: Edit

was the "pretext" as the answer in the experimental section?

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:31 pm: Edit

but wasnt MLK a double passage?

By Modestmouse (Modestmouse) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:34 pm: Edit

No, no, no! The 3d polygon WAS FOUR! "A polyhedron is a pyramid if it has 3 or more triangular faces sharing a common vertex. The base of a pyramid may be any polygon. If the base is a triangle too, then the pyramid has four faces. This is the simplest polyhedron, also called a tetrahedron, from the Greek word "tetra", meaning "four". "

By Runrickyrun (Runrickyrun) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:35 pm: Edit

A lot of people are talking about the experimental verbal sections.. but which was the experimental math section?

My test looked like this:
V
M
M
V
M
V
M

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit

did anyone take the jan. sat? if you tell us what the curve was on that, maybe we can predict this one...

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:36 pm: Edit

ok nm i am confusing myself hurston is the double passage right?

By Dreamer1234 (Dreamer1234) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:38 pm: Edit

jan sat was suppose to be easier than march
verbal was 800 800 800 800 800 780
math 800 800 780

By Jm2006 (Jm2006) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:41 pm: Edit

Yeah mine went:
V
V
M
V
M
V
M
I'm thinking the second verbal was experimental, maybe the second math too?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:41 pm: Edit

ur experimental if u had 2 and 3 as math was section 2. It had a very hard problem:
2^x (3^y) (4^z) = 6^k

By Liloldme (Liloldme) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:44 pm: Edit

Anyone have the second math section as experimental? If so do you remember the last couple of questions? Need help on those.

By Modestmouse (Modestmouse) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:46 pm: Edit

Double passage was on memory, I think... But I had the VVMVMVM(?), I think... The one with the two verbals first, that's what I had.

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:48 pm: Edit

Was the question with answer chicanery in the experimental verbal?

Can anyone who had a math experimental verify please? Thanks

By Liloldme (Liloldme) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:49 pm: Edit

Wow, this kinda sucks. After looking at all the answers here, I am really second guessing how good my scores are.

By Liloldme (Liloldme) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:50 pm: Edit

No the chicanery one wasn't experimental

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:53 pm: Edit

What was the question again? (The chicanery one)

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:54 pm: Edit

Bcrich--I don't remember the 2^x(3^y)(4^z)=6^k question--can you elaborate? Why do you think it was in experimental?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:56 pm: Edit

Here is my view on this test:

Math = few difficulty 5 questions. Many tricky questions but not difficult to solve. Probably 1 or 2 wrong will still be 800.

Verbal = Critical reading for most part easy. The vocab in context was harder than most tests but infering questions were easy. Hard vocabulary on the harder SC questions. Analogies werent 2 bad but many came down to guessing between 2 answer choices. Probably 4-5 wrong 800?

Let me know if you agree with my assessment...

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:56 pm: Edit

The fact that you didn't have that question should allow you to deduce that it was experimental.

By Musicbuster007 (Musicbuster007) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 07:57 pm: Edit

was the FSA photographer passage experimental? Flame didn't mention it...

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:00 pm: Edit

With this order VMMVMVM:
I believe section 2 was the fake section. My friend has studied this and found the fake section brakes the normal pattern of VMVMVMVMVM so it had to be either 3 or 2. 3 was a QC grid in section so i assume its 2. Also the problem that was extremly hard was in section 2. I finished other math sections with 10 minutes left. This section took me all 30 mins and i still could not get the slightest clue for #23 or 24(whichever it was).
Question gave u this equation (2^x)(3^y)(4^z)=6^k
it said solve for y in terms of the other variable. plug in did not work for me because of time contraints and the big #s when u use exponents. I have never come to a problem that i couldnt solve in under 3 mins on sat and this one was 2 hard for me...maybe i was just out of it?

By Osnapjew (Osnapjew) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:00 pm: Edit

my experiment included something about the internet..

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:07 pm: Edit

Bcrich--OK, I definitely didn't have that 2^x(3^y)(4^z)=6^k, so you're right, that was in your experimental section.

People with experimental verbal--did any of you have the math problem that asked for the least number of faces a 3D polygon can have?

By Jeffz0rs (Jeffz0rs) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:08 pm: Edit

was the water park survey experimental? (or does anyone know which math was experimental)

By Modestmouse (Modestmouse) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:08 pm: Edit

The CR passages sounded really familiar. I can't put my finger on where I've read them though. Because the roman numerals, the guy visiting the island, I've read those on some test or practice test, or something.

By 5sjoh (5sjoh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:25 pm: Edit

yeah i think u r right Bcrichsolo. i had the same test as u did v m m v m v m and i found sec 2 harder than sec 5
i did sec 5 in like 15 min but couldn't do like 2 problems in sec 2.
i think i got all right in math from what i c above except for the last problem in QC urgg :(

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:27 pm: Edit

Bchr: the last question was the hardest question i think i've seen on the SAT ever.

For your question 4^z=2^(2z). so 2^x*2^(2z)*3^y=2^k*3^k, ===> 2^(x+2z)*3^y=2^k*3^k. So x+2z=y=k.

By 5sjoh (5sjoh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:29 pm: Edit

Hey Jeffz0rs is that problem about 22 people liked something 16 people liked something and 10 people liked both? and looking for # of people who liked neither? i put 2 for that and i think that problem was in sec 7 which is definitely not a experimental section

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:32 pm: Edit

What does United mean in the roman numeral passage? It was talking about how 3 was made up of 3 lines united after being written, or something like that. Joined or secured. I put joined.

By 5sjoh (5sjoh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:33 pm: Edit

Verbal

what was the answer to the question about the relationship between great aunt? and the author's wife? one about a man visiting his wife's home. He thought that she was a big strong woman but she was acutally not.. something like this... the answer choices were playful and something affectionate and something
i don't remember rest of choices.

By Jeffz0rs (Jeffz0rs) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:37 pm: Edit

5sjoh,

i don't remember the exact problem, but it was a venn diagram with three circles. I definetely didn't get it section 7, it was early on in the test, either 2 or 3..I don't remember.

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:48 pm: Edit

Jeff--is the venn diagram thing you're talking about the one with the cereals, and it was like #25?

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:49 pm: Edit

did anyone get "original" as a sentence completion answer? it was about an artist who had just finished a work

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:52 pm: Edit

yes, original. What does United mean in the roman numeral passage? It was talking about how 3 was made up of 3 lines united after being written, or something like that. Joined or secured. I put joined.

By Jeffz0rs (Jeffz0rs) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:55 pm: Edit

Jeff--is the venn diagram thing you're talking about the one with the cereals, and it was like #25?

AHHh that's the one. I read "waterpark" somewhere and I got mixed up.

thanks

By Sabinscabin (Sabinscabin) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:56 pm: Edit

what did vital from vital recall mean?

it was in the memory passage

By Neelesh (Neelesh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:56 pm: Edit

i think i did bad on the test.....

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

Jeff--No problem! Also, was your experimental math or verbal? If it's verbal I think I know what my experimental math section is...

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:58 pm: Edit

Okay guys, I have a question. Are there usually two experimental sections per test? My format:

V - Marriage narrative
V - Hurston + Roman Numerals
M - Easy, easy MC (one of which I remember which was something like: One needs 120 credits to graduate, Zoe has n credits and Jane has double the number of credits Zoe has. Together, they have 152/156 credits. How many more credits does Jane need to graduate? ----> BTW, I got 16. What was everyone else's answers?)
M - QC's + Grid-in
V - Man and the cabin + expecting the old ladies, and the whole "vital" debate. (I think I put fundamental, but I don't remember . . . ^_^)
M - Once again, easy, easy 15 min. math section.
V - Memory double passage.

Yeah, I might remember a few other questions. From what it seems, I know for sure that Section one for me was experimental. Some more questions (not necessarily from the same section):

Sugar:Cane::?
(I put coffee:beans)

Birds:Aviary
(Dog:kennel)

Math: 30 people were surveyed. 22 people liked water rides, 16 people liked roller coasters. 10 people liked both. How many people liked neither? (I had 2)

Math: Another one of my answers were something like y=15x+30??

Finally, 3-D polygon: 4 sides. Definitely.

By Neelesh (Neelesh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:00 pm: Edit

my biggest problem was the critical reading...im not very good at it..i think that i got screwed over because of it, and i didn't have enough time to finish the test on most of the verbal...

wut was one of the answers on the question that said taht m is divisible by 2, and k is divisible of 5, and m/k = 5/7? or something like that. i messed up and read the question wrong because i was trying to really hurry....

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:01 pm: Edit

what were other answer choices for birds:aviary besides dog:kennel ? Lion:feline?

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:01 pm: Edit

Sorry if this has already been answered-but for the non experimental 35 Q verbal-what was the passage about?? I can't remember if it was the old lady one or not?

By Neelesh (Neelesh) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:05 pm: Edit

for the birds: aviary, i think the answer was dog:kennel. that is wut i put. i cant remember the others..

By Co0 (Co0) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:08 pm: Edit

ATENTION: SAT Verbal is the same as June 2003 verbal. I remember having the passage about Hurston and Roman numerals
!

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:11 pm: Edit

What is the marriage passage that people are talking about... I swear I do not remember that... I am FREAKING out now. PLEASE answer back because I am stressing

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:14 pm: Edit

The marriage passage was about a man who goes to try to convince his neice to marry some rich guy who she doesn't want to marry b/c she doesn't love him. The whole passage is about the confrontation between the girl and the exhortations of her uncle.

By Jeffz0rs (Jeffz0rs) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit

Joyn05,

I thought the math section with the cereals was the experimental, because I asked my friend, who had no idea what I was talking about. I could be wrong :(

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:18 pm: Edit

o crap, i seriously hope that i put 16 for the graduation credits one. i understood the problem, i just hope i didnt do 156-104!!!!! ahhhhh!

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:18 pm: Edit

I am sure that I did not have that passage or at least read it...O god! Do you think I didn't read a passage??Is there a possibility that didn't have it??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Should I cancel?? I thought I did OK! I think I answered all the questions in a passage but I don't know. Did ANYONE not get this passage. I am under cardiac arrest over here.

By Runrickyrun (Runrickyrun) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:21 pm: Edit

People have been saying the Dandy:Foppish:: analogy is from the verbal experimental section.. but I had 4 Math sections and I had the Dandy analogy which means that the Dandy section wasn't experimental.. Right?

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:23 pm: Edit

Robert, calm down. I'm about 95% sure that section was experimental. You had a different section, that's all. You'll be fine.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:26 pm: Edit

Thank god! thanks so much... I swear I was so calm when I took this test and now all I can only think about the test. When people say Indians do they mean Native Americans??

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:28 pm: Edit

Mrreeves, "M - Easy, easy MC (one of which I remember which was something like: One needs 120 credits to graduate, Zoe has n credits and Jane has double the number of credits Zoe has. Together, they have 152/156 credits. How many more credits does Jane need to graduate? ----> BTW, I got 16. What was everyone else's answers?)"

what were the other answer choices? ahhhh
did 52 happen to be one of them, cuz i know its wrong, but i just hope that i didnt pick that one... and also, what letter was 16?

By Joyn05 (Joyn05) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:31 pm: Edit

Jeff--Thanks. It's too bad it looks like the venn diagram thing is experimental...I think I did better on that section than on the other. :(

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:37 pm: Edit

mrreeves where r u? or does anyone else know the answer choices to the grad credits one? damn my life depends on it.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:42 pm: Edit

Billiam,
4^z=2^(2z). so 2^x*2^(2z)*3^y=2^k*3^k
was taht the problem u reffered to as the hardest math SAT problem ever seen? I thought 25 in that section was easy and 24,21, and some others were hard
honestly, i could care less now because it was experimental section

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:47 pm: Edit

There was a math that had the median =28, it gave u 7 numbers and one was x. It also said the range was like 17 or somethin like that. Everyone said the answer was 20. First, was this question multiple choice? Second, if it was, does any1 remember if 19 was an answer choice???

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:48 pm: Edit

The grad credits one was sixteen, but 52 was a choice. I had marked down 52 first because I had done 156-104, but when I went back to check my answer, I saw that "156" was the number of credits the two people had combined, not the number of credits needed to graduate, which was 120. I changed my answer to 16, b/c 120-104=16.

Scion, it's only one question, and we can't even be sure if it's right . . .

By Mreeves (Mreeves) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:50 pm: Edit

Bcrichsolo, that was a grid-in question.

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:53 pm: Edit

holy crap i think my calc messed up and i wrote 19....hopefully not

By Sodapopfizz (Sodapopfizz) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:55 pm: Edit

you know that question with the environmental problems and its answers was like
established...mitigate
and (something)...palliate, what was that first word?
i put the palliate chocie cuz established sounded weird...but i m not so sure anymore

By Sydney22 (Sydney22) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:03 pm: Edit

in the fill in math section, for the second problem was the answer 2???

By Scion (Scion) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:10 pm: Edit

ok, pretty sure it was established: mitigate

ok, thanks mrreeves. i probably did what u did first. damn it. pray for me.

By Jens (Jens) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:15 pm: Edit

sodapop= it was established/mitigate. the one with palliate didnt make sense. :(

can anyone tell me the MATH Q about the $3 certificates? i vaguely remember a question like that.

Also yes, the consensus seems to be that the MATH EXPERIMENTAL was section 2 (relief)

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:32 pm: Edit

the certificate question was in the top left of the last page of the grid in section. It was around #23. It said that there are $2 certificates, $3 ones and $4 ones. And someone bought a combo for $58 bux. and u get that he bought 3 of the 2 dollar ones, but u must multiply by 2 so it = 6. im dumb and put 3....

By Glory (Glory) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:38 pm: Edit

Hey guys, i think this question came up once:

The question by the mathematician about Roman numerals

Question: something about how the I, II, III escaped being changed over the years, well, for that one, i put b/c most all the original societies had those 3 written the same.

I was debating between that one and the answer that said tat they were easy to distinguish. what do ya;ll think.

I think the verbal curve is going to be HUGE. this verbal had way too many crappily hard works.

my answers: chicanery, irreplaceable, transcript: trial, for one of the ones about memory, i put the answer that said how one child got hurt and another one went to find the mom. b/c that had something to do with family and the passage said siblings usually remember family stuff like how their parents felt about each other.

hope this helps.
math was good.

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:41 pm: Edit

Musicbuster007

yeh the FSA photograps was experimental. If anyone had this passage in their Critical reading, which section was it? I had

V (hurst and her critique, and roman numerals i think)
V 35Q (was this the one with the FSA photographs)
M (Qcomp/Grid in)
V 35Q (or was this the one with the FSA photographs
M (30 Q MC)
V (constant)
M (constant)

I know its either section 2 or section 4 but i cant determine which one. I think it was section 4 that i put 4 straight A's so I'm kinda freaked about that.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 11:26 pm: Edit

does anyone remember what section minutes:meeting was in?

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 11:50 pm: Edit

you guys this is SO bizarre -

the EXACT same SAT was given to a select group of students in June of 2003. Check the archives and you will see the exact same test.


By the way, since no one else had the autobiography critical readings im assuming that this is my experimental? true?

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 11:58 pm: Edit

ok so the question i messed up was about whether laughter was a living thing or an irrational force...i guess its a living thing hah - theres no way this is on my experimental is there?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:06 am: Edit

Wow - only June 2003. A bet some people could have taken that and then this one (maybe early soph and then junior?)

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:07 am: Edit

the experimental was MLK..

for me minutes:meeting was in section 4 i think\

mine was VMMVMVM

By Liiaang (Liiaang) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:09 am: Edit

did anyone have the Cold War passage as their experimental? if so, do you guys remember any questions from that section? thanks

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:10 am: Edit

I just remembered a math problem by looking at the June archives. For the p percent of 1/p, I had more than 4. P percent equates to p/100. For p = 1:

1/100*(1/1) = .01 (works)

For p = 2:

2/100*(1/2) = .01 (works)

For p = 3:

(3/100)*(1/3) = .01 (works)

So on...

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:11 am: Edit

i had the autobiography critical readings.. but wasn't that about memory and how we all have selesctive memory that makes us seem better than we really are? also like i said before, the verbal experimental section had to be the first one: V1: 36 questions, V2: 30 questions V3: 35 questions V4: 13 questions. Verbal has to equal 78- (30+35+13= 78), therefore whatever your first verbal section, for the (VVMMVMV group), was experimental. (MLK, Shopping, marriage, cold war, nixon, fredrick douglasses souls of black folk, the one about the lady who writes about black ppl and the way she uses language).

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:13 am: Edit

I think its bull that some people could have the June 2003. Maybe their experimentals was our reals. Its completely unfair if the tests are similar, and Collgeboard guarantees that everyone has an equal opportunity. Everyone pays $28 for the test, they could at least make up new ones.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:14 am: Edit

simplyloved thankyou SO MUCH lol, I was soo confused about what my experimental. for the life of me I couldn't remember an entire section of the SAT and it's all coming back to me now. that stupid lady who wrote about the black people, it was such a boring boring read that must be why i forgot it. so i'm thinking that chicanery was in that section as was dandy:foppish --- can anyone confirm this? im still very confused haha so dont mind me

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:18 am: Edit

my answer for the multiple choice grad request thingies was 16. G+B=156 g=2B, 3b=156 b=52, b=104, the necessary units were 120.. she needed 16 more units to graduate

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:21 am: Edit

Was the percentage "p" problem more than 4?

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:22 am: Edit

yep it was choice (E) more than 4

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:23 am: Edit

i took the june 2003 test and i honestly don't remember any of these questions being on that one. But hey , it was a year ago. If anyone else took the june 2003 one, is taht the one that had the passage about the loch ness monster and such?

By Auburnwareagle (Auburnwareagle) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:28 am: Edit

i took june 2003 but don't remember any loch ness................

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:33 am: Edit

Do you remember the one about scotland or the one taht had to do with space or the dinosaurs?

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:40 am: Edit

the june 2003 that is a copy of this test was given to a very small % of testtakers - go to the june archives and read about how scared they were that no one else had the same test haha

i think for them the whole test was experimental - i bet their curve will be the same as ours so i hope it was good :)

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:41 am: Edit

Yeah - I looked at the June 2003 archives - almost all of the questions are different from ours.

By Saera (Saera) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:28 am: Edit

does anyone remember a question where one of the answers was something:inimical? (I think the something started with an i too)

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:30 am: Edit

Glory-
The question by the mathematician about Roman numerals

Question: something about how the I, II, III escaped being changed over the years (were easy to distinguish)

agreed with: chicanery, transcript: trial; disagreed: irreplaceable (fundamental), for one of the ones about memory, i put the answer that said how one child got hurt and another one went to find the mom (no it was remembering the neighbor's children, as it said in the passage that adults remember more long term events better)

By Aeg315 (Aeg315) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:00 am: Edit

Did anyone have a verbal section with four passages (one of them was just a paragraph with 2 questions, and then there were two passages about chimpanzees)? Was this the experimental? (It better have been because I spaced out) Let me know please.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:46 am: Edit

Yeah it was experimental. No worries.

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:23 am: Edit

GOSH!!!! you know.this curve better be huge, b/c that verbal was a KILLER. what are the chances of missing 4 questions and getting an 800 (slim?.. non existent?)

were all the following questions on the counted sections:

1)contrite:regret
2)dandy:foppish
3)tenor = generalization??

the one time i think i made a perfect on math... they're gonna kill me wit verbal.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:35 am: Edit

give me a break... all I want is a 1300.

By Sulskman (Sulskman) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:07 am: Edit

DID ANY1 HAVE A PASSAGE ABOUT A PUERTO RICAN GIRL COMING TO NYC? I HAD THAT PASSAGE AND NOBODY SEEMED TO HAVE IT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT WAS IN AN EXPERIMENTAL OR SCORED SECTION.

By Dliebers (Dliebers) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:08 am: Edit

contrite regret was aspiration ambition, or something along those lines.

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:10 am: Edit

did anyone remember getting a sentence completion it was the first one, and it went something like this

zoo keepers have the task of _______ customers while at the same time keeping the zoo _________

and i put something like

A) attract, and clean

just wondering because if no one had this then its definitely my experimental section, which was section 2! the section i did fabulously on

By Matt37 (Matt37) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:16 am: Edit

sulskman i got the puerto rico one... its experimental

By Caddyshack (Caddyshack) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:34 am: Edit

wasn't the p percent of 1/p have to equal 1? therefore it'd be A. never?

By Tinkerchelle (Tinkerchelle) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:37 am: Edit

I definitely got chicanery for the sentence completion.

"contrite regret was aspiration ambition, or something along those lines." << I got that too...to be contrite is to be full of regret, to be aspiring (i think it was that, not aspiration) is to be full of ambition

Bully:Domineering for the dandy:foppish one

I put intense pleasure...he was talking about how vibrant the colors and the trees were, and the smell of the water, and it was something along the lines of "And it smelled like forever" or something...bewilderment would be like "OMG WHATS GOING ON WHAA?!?" Heh.

I got the neighbors family for the CR

transcript: trial for that SC

the p percentage problem was definitely E, more than four...i spent 2 minutes checking numbers with my calculator haha...anything ending in 00 (i.e. 100, 200, 300, etc works)

I did fundamental for the "vital" one...I'm pretty sure that's right.

Perimeter was 44 for the square/rectangle thing...while we're at it, I got all these answers too (from Songster87, who I think used to live in my town which is really weird):
"1. $180
2. n = 2
3. 6 $3 gift certificates
4. Buried treasure is 10 away
5. First term is 1/3
6. 160 (m = 70, k = 90) was the easiest answer
7. 2.5 Small Cone Radius
8. 20 Last Guy's Age in the Median 28 group
9. 44 Overlapping Rectangles
10. 9887 (Don't remember the question) "

And the pollution one I got, established: mitigate

I also got four B's in a row...it freaked me out too haha...stupid scantron mindtricks!

also, "Only II" for the one about the two prime numbers.

Whoa that was long. I definitely got one math wrong...but everything else I was unsure of has been the general thoughts so far...so *crosses fingers*...it was my first SAT, got 1460 on the PSATs...

/my first post here :)

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:44 am: Edit

Hm...actually, one of my answers is wrong. The 100 wasn't there. I imagined it.

The tenth answer should actually be 9887 (9998-111). Also, for anyone wondering, the answers are NOT in order.

And...Michelle from Bridgewater? I didn't know Bridgewater people were compulsive enough to visit here. =P

By Tinkerchelle (Tinkerchelle) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:49 am: Edit

Nevermind, I did get the 9887 one...I didn't look over yours that carefully, and mixed it with the pirate's buried stuff one...

By Jerseykid (Jerseykid) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:01 pm: Edit

i could have sworn that the one about the pirate's treasure was a multiple choice

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:09 pm: Edit

Yeah - it was.

By Gmf05 (Gmf05) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:15 pm: Edit

Caddyshack - The p percent question, when solved, comes out to be 1 = 1 before you even plug in variables...
.01p * 1/p = 1*.01
^^ p percent ^ 1 percent of 1
1/p * p = 1
p/p = 1
1 = 1

So since it turns into that...it means it's true for all numbers (except zero of course...)

By Jerseykid (Jerseykid) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:21 pm: Edit

Then what is this problem about buried treasure that everyone has an answer of 10 for in the grid ins?

I remember getting ten for the buried treasure in mc

And then an answer of 100 for some problem in the grid-ins

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:21 pm: Edit

Nice there Gmf05. I had more than 4 as well. Cool work on that problem.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:23 pm: Edit

I had no 100 in the grid ins. The closest to 100 I had was 160 (the m/k = 7/9) and were divisible by 2 and 5, blah blah blah. That was 160 (as the first possible answer).

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:27 pm: Edit

can we get a general list going of the experimental sections and what the hardest questions were in those sections?

By Reject (Reject) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:28 pm: Edit

yes there was a 100 for grid in.

it was the one with the triangle and u had to find the angle. it gavu 40 degrees for and the said two of the sides were equal.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

my experimental section was about the female author who wrote about the black people -- im glad that it's experimental because i wasn't sure about a couple of them....now does anyone know of any questions on that section?

By Reject (Reject) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

does anyone remember the question for the buried treasure. i dont recall it all

By Tinkerchelle (Tinkerchelle) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit

It was like he went 10 paces north, 17 to the east, 2 south, and 9 west...and then what was the direct length...i think those were the numbers, but I clearly remember the sides being 6 and 8, to get 10 for the hypotenuse << spelled that wrong!

By Runrickyrun (Runrickyrun) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:08 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember the overlapping rectangles one?

I mean.. the exact question. I don't remember what I put and there has been conflicting answers (38, 42, 44) although 44 seems to be consensus..

By Liiaang (Liiaang) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit

Ilcapo. are you sure your experimental section was about the female author who wrote about the black people. cause that sounds like hurston in the first section.

By Liiaang (Liiaang) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:30 pm: Edit

By Godesiree (Godesiree) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:39 pm: Edit

just curious:

did anyone have an experimental verbal that had a long set of analogies & sentence completions, a very short passage on some new exercise, double passage on chimpanzees, and a passage on a female journalist? i thought it way too long for one section...what'd anyone else think?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:59 pm: Edit

Runrick - I had 42. I found all the sides except the bottom one on the big rectangle as 36. And then that side (I think VP or VT or something) was 6 so that's how I got 42.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:00 pm: Edit

Godesiree - I had that section - it was 2 for me. I thought that was my experimental.

By Tinkerchelle (Tinkerchelle) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:04 pm: Edit

I think it was experimental for you guys because I definitely did not have that

By Hobbes344 (Hobbes344) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:07 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember the exact overlapping square and rectangle problem? I think the perimenter of the square was 24, the length of the rectangle was 7, and that's all I can remember.

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:09 pm: Edit

And yes, there was a 100 answer on the math grid ins.

By Athlonmj (Athlonmj) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:10 pm: Edit

The perimer of the square was 20 and the perimeter of the rectangle was 30. And one given segment was 3. The answer is 44

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:57 pm: Edit

on the zora neale hurston one:

what did ya'll put for question about... something about the criticisms about her choice of subjects for her works? i put that such choices shouldn't be made into big deals or soemthing like that

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:00 pm: Edit

yeah, i wasn't sure about that either. That's what i said haruhara, because at the end, there was a quote saying something like "i want to show why people do things, regardless of color".

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:05 pm: Edit

charged-assert?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit

zoo keepers have the task of _______ customers while at the same time keeping the zoo _________

what about this one?

By Teal (Teal) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:06 pm: Edit

For the grid ins, can any one concur that
most of the grids did not need the fourth box bubbled in?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:07 pm: Edit

teal did i talk to you last night? i was "CHUNKBANG"

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:07 pm: Edit

teal did i talk to you last night? i was "CHUNKBANG"

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:19 pm: Edit

"yes there was a 100 for grid in.

it was the one with the triangle and u had to find the angle. it gavu 40 degrees for and the said two of the sides were equal."

which one was this again?

and can someone reexplain the chicanery one, cuz i still think the misguided: remonstrance one can still be right.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:28 pm: Edit

OH SWEEEET! Ok, I'm happy now. I had a 100 for a grid-in and I thought I gridded in a 100 for the pirate one accidentally. Whewww. I'm really relieved now. =) I still have a perfect raw score now! =))))))

Official Grid-In Answers (Revised)
This is the correct order as well this time.
#16 $180
#17 n = 2
#18 The missing angle was 100 degrees
#19 20 Was the Guy's Age
#20 2.5 Small Cone Radius
#21 m + k = 160 (other answers are possible)
#22 6 $3 gift certificates
#23 44 Perimeter of overlapping rectangles
#24 9887
#25 1/3

If someone recalls a different order, let me know.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:31 pm: Edit

16 was 18 i believe

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:32 pm: Edit

wait... wasn't it 25% off at someplace, 35% off at the other for a $180 radio? find the difference in the prices etc.

By Saera (Saera) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:32 pm: Edit

:/ I think for the chicanery one I put down something:collude(or colluded or collusion...something like that...) Or was that another question maybe?

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:34 pm: Edit

songster87, is the last q/c REALLY D? i dont want to believe it, but...

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:41 pm: Edit

Scion the last q/c was definatly B...

Songster, was #22 6 or 3?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:44 pm: Edit

Scion. Do you mean the SECOND to last q/c? R+T versus R-T is *definitely* D.

The LAST q/c was the (4,4) triangle one and that one was B (y-coordinate is always greater).

Saera. You put down "propitious/collusion." The question was phrased something like, "The executives were not only accused of acting _____ and foolish, but they were also of accused of downright _____." Propitious means favorable. Even though collusion fits in the second blank, propitious does not fit in the first blank. And to whoever said misguided/remonstrance, remonstrance does NOT fit in the second blank.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:46 pm: Edit

Haruhaha, it was a $1800 something. Difference in price of a 25% discount and 35% discount. And I remember that distinctly as being the first grid-in.

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit

yeah yeah yeah, damn it. last q/c and third to last q/c (the difference of squares of r and t) were B and D, respectively. damn it. but i still dont agree w/ the chicanery one. remonstrance CAN still fit-remonstrance of results.

o yeah, what was the monologue: speaker one?
diagnosis: doctor

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:48 pm: Edit

ah ••••... i may have put 18 accidentally... i must pray now.

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:49 pm: Edit

Was the sc peremptory/cavalier question in the experimental section?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:49 pm: Edit

solo:musician for monologue:speaker

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit

And what was the answer to the unfathomable/understanding analogy?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit

i put presum-something:cavalier for one of them

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit

i put impregnable:conquest-Metra

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:52 pm: Edit

Peremptory was not in the experimental. The answer was peremptory/abrasive.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit

"propitious/collusion." The question was phrased something like, "The executives were not only accused of acting _____ and foolish, but they were also of accused of downright _____." Propitious means favorable. Even though collusion fits in the second blank, propitious does not fit in the first blank

So what was the answer to that one? What were the other choices?

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:53 pm: Edit

could unfathomable/understanding have been in the experimental?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit

Unfathomable/understanding was NOT in the experimental either.

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:55 pm: Edit

Yeah, the angle was 100 for the grid in...I fail to see how it wouldn't be. All I remember(I don't even remember the problem) is that it HAS to be an obtuse...so.."16 for 18"...I am confounded as to see how that can ever work.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:56 pm: Edit

Billiam, the answer was: "wrongheaded/chicanery."

Two other choices were "propitious/collusion" and "misguided/remonstrance." I don't remember the other choices.

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Instead of peremptory/abrasive, it couldnt have been boorish/something else?

By Bcrichsolo (Bcrichsolo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

What was the question at end of grid in about the 44 overlapping rectangles? i dont remember this at all...

By Jens (Jens) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:17 pm: Edit

monologue one is solo:musician

By Jens (Jens) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:18 pm: Edit

NO the answer was PEREMPTORY/ABRASIVE

Cavalier does not fit b/c it means arrogant/jaunty and "brusque" is not arrogant.

Wrongheaded/Chicanery was not even a choice to taht question. that was a diff question.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:20 pm: Edit

can someone post a list of all the critical reading sections that counted??

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:21 pm: Edit

Brichsolo, #22 was definitely 6.

"The store sold twice as many $2 certificates as $3 ones, twice as many $3 ones as $5 ones. How many $3 ones did it sell if it sold $57 total?"

Let there be X $3 ones. 2X $2 ones. And 0.5X $5 ones.

3(X) + 2(2X) + 5(0.5X) = $57
3X + 4X + 2.5X = $57
9.5X = $57
X = 6

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:27 pm: Edit

errr... jens what are you talking about?

boorish wasnt an answer choice for that question?

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:30 pm: Edit

for the monologue:speaker one,
did anyone else think it was diagnosis:doctor?

cuz a speaker gives a monologue, and a doctor gives a diagnosis. a musician does not necessariy give a solo; he or she could be in a band or do a duet, which was also another answer choice (duet:accompanist)

songster, can u explain the chicanery one? it still can be misguided and remonstrance.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:32 pm: Edit

what are some of the other answers for Monologue:speaker?

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:33 pm: Edit

Are you guys sure cavalier is wrong? I don't quite remember the sentence, but I did not think that peremptory:abrasive fit.

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:35 pm: Edit

only other choice i remember was doctor:diagnosis. But the bridge I made was that a monlogue is given by ONE speaker. A solo is given by ONE musician.

By Chider (Chider) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:36 pm: Edit

there were originaly 666 messages on this post. i just thought id break the curse by makin it 667

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:39 pm: Edit

what was the first choice for "cavalier" again?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:39 pm: Edit

Hey, how certain is everyone about the pirate being a MC or a grid-in?

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:42 pm: Edit

hey billiam2, ok now u made ur the solo seem right.

and as for ur question, its definitely peremptory: abrasive cuz the company did not want someone who was "brusque" and blank, so peremptory means about the same thing as brusque.

hey whats about MAYBE 6-7 verbal wrong, and 2 grid-ins omitted/wrong, 2 q/cs wrong, and 1-2 m/c on the math wrong? o damn.

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:43 pm: Edit

the pirate was a MC.. not a grid in. i remember cuz taht was the last problem I did on the math because i didn't get it and had to come back for it. It was numer 8C.

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:45 pm: Edit

songster87 how did you know you got a perfect raw score

By Saera (Saera) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:46 pm: Edit

another choice for the monologue:speaker one was soliloquy:playwright. I couldn't decide between that and solo:musician at first, because I thought at first "Monolgue is when a speaker speaks to himself" and soliloquy is when a character makes a big speech to himself...but it's the character, not the playwright, so I chose solo:musician (same reason as billiam2).

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:48 pm: Edit

NOOOOOO CAVALIERRR

By Billiam2 (Billiam2) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:49 pm: Edit

Im still not convinced about the cavalier one, as I don't know the sentence. Can anyone remember the sentence, or the answer choices?

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:49 pm: Edit

Skapoor, I never messed up the easy questions on the practice tests. I have all the correct answers for every discussed question. And I also looked up all the words I didn't know on the test when I got home to see if my guesses were correct. I'm not 100% certain, but I'm about 90% certain I got a perfect raw score. We'll find out in 10 days, though.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:51 pm: Edit

if "something...cavalier" is wrong, i have 2 wrong for sure (in addition to the minute:meeting thing)

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:52 pm: Edit

in the zora neal hurston passage... there was a question about the reason she wrote about african american women (or something to that extent) ... does anyone remember this question?

i remember choosing the answer that said her fictional characters were more controversial than their real life counterparts...

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:52 pm: Edit

So boorish wasnt even a choice?

By Reject (Reject) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

was the pirate question in the 10 question section for math?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:53 pm: Edit

doerame, i didn't put that answer... i forget what i put though

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:54 pm: Edit

yes reject

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:56 pm: Edit

Doerame - I didn't choose that as well - I also forgot what I put but it was different from what you had.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:57 pm: Edit

Simplyloved, when you say it was "number 8C," do you mean it was #8 answer C? And you're 100% positive of this? Like, you can recall a distinct photographical memory of the question having multiple choices?

Also, was the pirate one in the 15 minute section? Man, I'm getting all paranoid since so many people are saying it's grid-in, but I don't remember gridding in a 10.

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:57 pm: Edit

For the african american women question, i think the answer was something along the lines of she just picks random people, with no special preference.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 04:58 pm: Edit

someone please explain why misguided/remonstrance does not work in this sentence

"The executives were not only accused of acting MISGUIDED and foolish, but they were also of accused of downright REMONSTRANCE"

i need a solid argument because if i am ABSOLUTELY wrong then im cancelling my scores

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit

yeah that makes sense songster, pretty much the same way i feel (i dont think i got a perfect score, but it is likely that i got 800), i was just wondering if there was another website you referred to.

Also, did anyone have a question like: the producing manager's (blank) caused him to take bribes on very lucrative deals. ? I missed that one so i was wondering if it was on the experimental section

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:01 pm: Edit

Remonstrance doesnt fit.

re·mon·strance ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-mnstrns)
n.

1. The act of remonstrating.
2. An expression of protest, complaint, or reproof, especially a formal statement of grievances.

Accused of grievances?

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:02 pm: Edit

Bribes question was venality.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:03 pm: Edit

pretty sure it's experimental-skapoor

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:03 pm: Edit

To remonstrate means to "plead in protest." Remonstrance means protesting then.

Once you know what remonstrance means, it's easy to see that it's not strong enough of a word to fit in there. You need a stronger word like chicanery or collusion, which implies doing morally shady stuff.

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:09 pm: Edit

I had the collusion one. I knew that word from last week in our vocab units in english, but I didn't know what the propitious really meant and I had no idea about chicanery, so I went with collusion. Right now I know I have 7 omits and 2 wrong in verbal - probably some more.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:18 pm: Edit

how bout when they said if you folded this into a cube, what would side X be across from?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:20 pm: Edit

b for that one

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:24 pm: Edit

songster, yes i remember perfectly because thatwas the last math problem that i did. Yes it was number 8 and Choice C was 10... it made a 6, 8, 10 triangle.

By Jens (Jens) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:28 pm: Edit

ok (hopefully for the last time) the PEREMPTORY/ABRASIVE one:
the sentence:
The company rejected the brusque and --- candidate, they did not want someone so ---.

pretty sure how that sentence went.

Also for the Zora Hurston passage it was *you should not make too much out of her characters* confident on that answer.

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:30 pm: Edit

it would be side (B)

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:33 pm: Edit

It would be side B.

By Metra (Metra) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:35 pm: Edit

Crypto, you sure boorish was an answer for the sentence completion question?

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:41 pm: Edit

I'll support Jens on the zora question, i remember feeling very confident about "you should not make too much out of my choice of characters"

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:42 pm: Edit

hm... what was the word paired with "cavalier"? cavalier was the second word.

By Robert456 (Robert456) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:43 pm: Edit

Ok- I was wondering if anyone noticed any trick problems on the 25q section. Really the first 15 problems, because I always get all of those right. They seemed really straight forward...maybe I fell for an ETS plot.

By Sashtruk (Sashtruk) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Does anyone remember which letter choice venality was on the bribe's question? I know it was either A or B...I put A but i'm not sure if it was venality.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:58 pm: Edit

that was experimental sashtruk

By Sashtruk (Sashtruk) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:08 pm: Edit

Math Q

What did you guys get for the grid-in asking for the perimeter of the object made up of a square and a rectangle overlapping each other?

By Tired_Student (Tired_Student) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:11 pm: Edit

does anyoen remember the answer to the SC where one of the choice was cliche?

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:14 pm: Edit

the pirate one AND the rectangle perimeter thingy was MC on my test... weird.
i hope the verbal curve is lenient, i skipped one, got one analogy that i know wrong, i put critical response for the women's laughter and utter bewilderment in the boy's story, and the chicanery one wrong...
neone have any idea what that translates into scorewise? lol

By Sashtruk (Sashtruk) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:17 pm: Edit

sorry...my bad, the perimeter questions was multiple choice

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Ok: recap.

questions still up for grabs (CR)

1)fundamental vs. irreplaceable
2)neighbor kid vs. kid calling mom
3) (Romannumeral) how I, II, III escaped change over the years: easily recognizeable vs. it was consistent in all primitive civilizations.

for the neighborhood kids question, wasnt it asking what one memory would the siblings both remember as adults? Its not asking what memory the siblings would remember similarly, its asking just what memory the siblings will both remember instead of going into the discard pile. That's why i put the mutual experience of kid hurt and other kid calls mom.

Who remembers the exact phrasing of the answer choice with nieghbor kids.

By Daromanian (Daromanian) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:25 pm: Edit

Glory, i think the answer was the neighbors because the second writer's passage was about how people remember general things fine but specific things very differently. and in the passage itself it spoke about the general memories.

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:29 pm: Edit

1) vital
2) neighbors
3) easily recognizable

"consistent in all primitive civilizations" was not a choice, it was a question. The choice you're probably thinking of is "universal origin," which is definitely wrong.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:31 pm: Edit

i have finally figured out that i had an experimental verbal

which one was it??

1. zora neal hurston
2. the use of numbers
3. memory and autobiographical writing
4. going to the house to visit the two old ladies

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:33 pm: Edit

songster i agree with your answers

By Songster87 (Songster87) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:34 pm: Edit

1. Not experimental
2. Not experimental
3. Not experimental
4. Not experimental

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit

i put irreplaceable for that one question

a summary of the sentence in context was

i could have been lying or fantasizing about a memory i had believed was vital.

therefore, the reason i put irreplaceable is because he said that what he might have believed to be completely true, not debatable - "irreplaceable", might actually have been something he'd been lying/fantasizing about.

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:54 pm: Edit

But, does anyone remember the question about the numbers?

It went something like...suggest that the numbers had something to do with...

I can remember one of the choices more clearly:
a)biological something something
b)non cultural something something

Anyone here remember?

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 06:59 pm: Edit

oh for that one, i put non cultural mental processes

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Me TOO!!! Anyone else?

By Shaka (Shaka) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:02 pm: Edit

yea i put non-cultural processes

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:02 pm: Edit

i figured since the author was talking mainly about how humans percieve numbers, it must be some non-cultural(universal) mental capacity or tendency of humans

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:07 pm: Edit

Yeah, what bothered me was that the passage included freakin' babies...like...the author mentioned babies. So I had the bio down, but, then, I had an epithany(more the the air conditioner blew my way)...and I was like..DUhh...mental process is a way better answer.

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:10 pm: Edit

What did you guys put for the question that asked how the author related numbers 4-x. the quesiton was like: how does the author link then #s as arbitrary in line x. i put D, they have appeared randomly throughout the ages

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit

Do u remember any other choices? I think I was struggling between that and another...forgot what I put...

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:24 pm: Edit

some other choices were like :
) the symbols meant different things in different languages
)there was no logical reasoning for the symbols

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:34 pm: Edit

what was the answer to the sentence completion about the babies and allergies? was it prone to: deleterious?

so its wrongheaded:chicanery? i dont like that word wrongheaded ("obstinately wrong"). it STILL might be remonstrance, cuz they remonstrated the results.

and what was the authors discarded memory? was it ken's memories of their grandparents, or was it the stupid family dog?

By Reject (Reject) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:48 pm: Edit

does anyone remember wat letter pretext was for the SC? or the other choices? Please i need to know

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:50 pm: Edit

did anyone get (D) for the 2nd QC. i rememberr doing it and thinking that it was weird to have a D so soon.

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:52 pm: Edit

reject: pretext was choice E
Ilcapo: do u remember what 2nd QC was??

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:52 pm: Edit

ilcapo, do u remember the question? i didnt have any time to look over that section.

By Doerame (Doerame) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 07:55 pm: Edit

can someone clarify the memory is similar in many cultures question? the one w/ biological answer choice

By Simplyloved (Simplyloved) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:13 pm: Edit

Scion, i put that the author's discarded memory involved the family dog. In the passage at sum point in time the author was like he didn't remember a lot about the dog because he didn't pay much attention to it, his brother did. Therefore he would discard that memory. Is taht what your question was?

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:35 pm: Edit

I think I remember a QC!! Not sure if it is the exact numbers, but just the general gist.

1<x<3
2<y<4

x y

Whatever...whatever the question was, I think it was D.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:36 pm: Edit

-skapoor1
What did you guys put for the question that asked how the author related numbers 4-x. the quesiton was like: how does the author link then #s as arbitrary in line x.

i put "there was no logical reasoning for the symbols"

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:40 pm: Edit

actually, i think the exact question was the given conditions as flameball mentioned. but u had to compare

x/y and 2

so the answer is B (2 is bigger always)

By Commonsense (Commonsense) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

did anyone remember the last MC question in one of the math sections that asked how many people were surveyed and showed a venn diagram with X Y and Z. The diagram was half completed and below it were a bunch of statements. i forgot what the survey was about though... my answer was 50

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:05 pm: Edit

nvm...you are right glory...I put B as well...haha. I got it mixed up with something else.

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:06 pm: Edit

yea it was 50... duh it's commonsense j/k hahaha

By Flameball63 (Flameball63) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:07 pm: Edit

Commonsense. I am pretty sure that's experimental, cuz I didn't get that question. Or I just forgot it.

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:07 pm: Edit

hey commonsense, that one was 2.

By Commonsense (Commonsense) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:11 pm: Edit

scion. youre talking bout a different problem. i got two venn diagram problems, and ur right, the other one was 2. but the one i got 50 on was probabaly experimental, as flameball says

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit

o yeah commonsense. my bad.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:46 pm: Edit

i think i got 48 for that... were there 2 left over? cuz 48+2 = 50

By Sashtruk (Sashtruk) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 09:47 pm: Edit

Can anyone remember the problem involving the two prime numbers completely? Does anyone remember the questions exactly?

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:00 pm: Edit

does anyone remember the problem where they give you a partially completed venn diagram and then they listed some data like:

12 people liked X and Y
14 people liked X only

i totally don't remember the question though hahaha - just wanted to see if it was experimental....


also there was another venn diagram where they asked how many people were asked to participate in the survey...

for some reason i messed up the venn diagrams, and it kinda put me in a bad mood for the rest of the test

By Netmet (Netmet) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:38 pm: Edit

VERBAL A----Just want to say for the question about the memory question, when it said which memory would both siblings remember...I am 100 percent sure the answer was neighbors...because in the passage it talked about how people often remember long term relationships--and the neighbors were obviously that, and also the answer had to be somethign that both siblings had no bias in, since that could lead to the memory being put in the discard pile, and obviously, there was no memory bias within the context of the neighbors relationship...i put fundamental, but not sure of that...and i put role, not tenor, but also not sure of that

By Skapoor1 (Skapoor1) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:56 pm: Edit

here was the question w/ the prime numbers:

2 prime numbers, x and y, both of which are greater than 2, are chosen. which of these choices can be a prime number

II. 2x+y

)II only <---correct answer

By Glory (Glory) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:05 pm: Edit

hey netmet, didnt u take the december sat too? howd u do on that one?

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:48 pm: Edit

glory, where u plannin on applyin? u got awesome scores.

By Mike_Lam (Mike_Lam) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:13 am: Edit

for the prime number question was it "can" or "must" ?

By Crypticism (Crypticism) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:08 am: Edit

"was anyone else so pissed off when you turned the page of the first verbal.... and saw another verbal? and then by the time i got to math i was already so drained i barely answered all the questions- not to even mention checking any."

That PERFECTLY expresses what happened to me. The time ran out on the math one before I got a chance to go back to any I had trouble with the first time around.

I am sure it was 'tenor'

I have DEFINITELY taken the section with the man visiting his wife's aunts before. I also think I have taken the memory one before, but I'm not sure. This was my third time taking the SATs.

I had:
V
V (Castro vs. Nixon one - I thought it was hard!)
M
V
M
V
M

I thought all of the verbal was pretty easy except the Castro one (which is experimental?). I'm hoping to break 700. A 720 would be incredible. I don't think I missed many (if any), but I did leave around 7 (total) blank.

I thought that the last two math were not too bad, although like I said above, I had a hard time with the first one. If I had done better at the first one I would have broken 700, but as it is I might get somewhere in the mid 600s. :-/

By Scion (Scion) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:10 am: Edit

y is it tenor? that would make it "general GENERALIZATION." role is better, i think.

By Crypticism (Crypticism) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:24 am: Edit

That's a good point, which I hadn't heard before posting.

I'm still pretty sure it was tenor.. But.. Who knows!

By Hertish (Hertish) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:25 am: Edit

it's tenor
Tenor=overall nature, or character

By Crypticism (Crypticism) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:35 am: Edit

Thanks, hertish.

Role just sounds wrong to me. Plus, tenor seems like a more SAT-ish answer.

By Scion (Scion) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:53 am: Edit

hey crypticism, yeah, i guess tenor could be it. dang it. i just checked it up. u know, i got a 800 in january. and lemme tell u, march's verbal was harder...

By Crypticism (Crypticism) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 02:40 am: Edit

Congrats on the 800!
I've had pretty bad luck on the SAT so far. Especially on math. I KNOW how to do all the problems, I just can't remember what I need during the actual test. *sigh*
Oh weeell..

By Certitude (Certitude) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 03:35 pm: Edit

for the multipe choise math...all i remember are the answer choices i put down do these loook familiar?

21: D
22:C
23: (i omitted)
24:E
25:A

By Netmet (Netmet) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:13 pm: Edit

Glory- I didn't take the SATs in dec.--- i actually took them in november, but I need to boost my verbal---so hopefully I'll do well on this one and be done

By Glory (Glory) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:09 pm: Edit

Scion: wow, perfect verbal. did u mess up big on math?? cuz thats real impressive.

i'm hoping/praying/bettingmylife on getting into Columbia ED.

i was hoping to wow them wit a 1600 and i was so hopeful this time with no dumb mistakes on math, but alas...memory, roman numerals...

By Duck (Duck) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:21 pm: Edit

does anyone remember what the answer choices were for the minutes: meeting analogy. I know one (the correct answer) is transcript: trial. what are the rest?

By Glory (Glory) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:46 pm: Edit

agenda: conference was one of them.

By Sashtruk (Sashtruk) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:00 pm: Edit

as Mike Lam said, for the prime number question was it "can" or "must" ?

By Hewashere (Hewashere) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:02 pm: Edit

can

By Blahdude (Blahdude) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:34 pm: Edit

did anyone get the short (one paragraph) reading passages like the one about bettles and a reading passages that was really hard about the clergyman and a guy talking? i think that might have been experimental because it had dialogue.....

By Scion (Scion) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:10 am: Edit

i was reading the top of this post

is it PEREMPTORY: ABRASIVE

and have we decided on FUNDAMENTAL or IRREPLACEABLE?

By Crypto86 (Crypto86) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:51 am: Edit

I'd say its about 50-50 on fundamental or irreplacable. I put fundamental.

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:28 am: Edit

I don't remember this impasse:progress analogy. Was it experimental?

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:31 am: Edit

Does anyone remember the answer to pin prick:puncture?

By Kevinkleinz (Kevinkleinz) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:49 am: Edit

Then there were some other critical reading ones.

1) It asked for what the passage (the one with the husband describing the two old women) was about. The only two answers I can remember is "stirring experience" and "commemoration of motherly love."

2) There was a final question to the roman numerals passage that was like "what is the main point that the author is trying to get across" (or something like this). I can only slightly remember what two possible answer choices were. One was about burden and the other was about representation.

By Ilcapo (Ilcapo) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:01 pm: Edit

stirring experience

By Glory (Glory) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:58 pm: Edit

peremptory/abrasive is raighto.

By Haruhara (Haruhara) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit

this thread is officially dead

By Xjay2max (Xjay2max) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:57 pm: Edit

si senor.

By Ecnerwalc (Ecnerwalc) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 07:45 pm: Edit

bump. hehe

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:02 pm: Edit

hey, by any small chance in hell, was the sentence completion about the freakin chicanery/remonstrance in the experimental section? also were these experimental as well:

the innuendo one
the solo musician one

By Scion (Scion) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 10:12 pm: Edit

anyone still remember after 2 wks?

By Scion (Scion) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:00 am: Edit

bump

By Jeffz0rs (Jeffz0rs) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:14 am: Edit

hey scion, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure my exp was math, but I still got those sentence completions.


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