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My child (junior) recently got scores from Jan testing (first time SAT). Only previous test score was 800 on SAT II writing. SAT I is 720M, 760V. I feel ridiculous asking this, but with these scores is it really worth re-taking? Reach schools may be some ivies (Yale, Brown) and definitely some top LACs (AWS etc). I believe the avg scores for M and V at all these schools are lower, except Yale's Math avg of 730. Is there any POSSIBLE rationale to support taking it again, or can we put this behind us and forget about it? Additional info, child will be in top 10% of class (unweighted), with 6 APs (more than all but one or two kids), and is a member of an underrepresented minority group.

By Dave Berry on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 06:38 pm: Edit

Yours is a classic question, Rhonda. If your child is a decent writer (essays) and can create a cogent, well-unified application presentation, then I would say leave well enough alone with these test scores. S/he'll be in the numeric ballpark with a competitive Academic Index ("AI"--see Hernandez's book A Is for Admission) and can then concentrate on other issues like ECs, summer programs, essay approaches, choosing rec writers, and related app-prep issues.

Don't get caught up in the test-score sweepstakes. It can prove to be counterproductive and morale-defeating. There is nothing wrong with those numbers at all.

By Dadster on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 03:38 pm: Edit

To augment Dave's good advice, allow me to add my two cents. Hernandez also comments that you need to have a score of 1500 or above to impress anyone in an Ivy admissions office. That's not to say 1480 is a big obstacle, but I might tend to give it another try. One Ivy admissions officer I spoke with said ALWAYS take the SAT I more than once (presumably unless you score 1600 or close to it), since they use the highest math and verbal score from the various attempts.

I'd say it depends on how strong the rest of your kid's package is. If he/she has some very strong ECs or other hooks, then leaving it as is might be OK. If he/she is applying primarily as a great student, then I'd lean toward another try - there are LOTS of great students who apply at these schools.

By Rhonda on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:07 am: Edit

Thanks for the advice. Main hook is probably being an underrepresented minority. Is also a very good student, with good ECs, but nothing that rises to the blow-away-the-adcom level. One reason I'm reluctant to suggest a re-test is that the V may not go up from 760, and M is my kid's harder subject, but a 720 was only 4 wrong! I'd be surprised if another re-take, even with a lot of prep, results in less than 4 wrong (seems like a matter of chance, what kind of questions they'll ask, good day vs bad day, etc). What are your thoughts on chance of increase w/so few wrong, Dadster? [Also, correction to my first post -- I meant to say that M score of 720 is lower than 4-5 schools (Caltech, MIT, Princeton, Harvard), but V of 760 is higher than any school's avg.]

By Dave Berry on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 10:02 am: Edit

No offense to Dadster (who has repeatedly proven his insider's savvy on these kinds of issues), Rhonda, but a URM with a 1480 is going to attract a LOT of attention, even in elite admissions offices. I think the term that applies here is "diminishing returns." In your child's quest for the exalted 1500 realm, s/he may well drop a few points. That's the conundrum of the SAT I. I would be smiling like a chesire cat with a 1480.

Now all your child has to do is figure out how to market his or her full profile to those top schools. Boy, wouldn't it be great if there were some kind of Web-based counseling service that specializes in elite admissions strategies for deserving juniors?!

By Rhonda on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 10:58 am: Edit

Thanks for the not-so-veiled hint!! We may take you up on that yet!

By ana marie on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 11:38 am: Edit

same question here.URM 1510sat1 790V710M.we think capable of improving math to 750 plus.4.0u GPA,varsity sportsx2, writer x local paper ,class president NMsemif(in his junior yearnow),president and vice president of 2 other clubs,university summer programs since 7th grade,next summer will do community service in Argentina,sibling at Princeton. wants to applyED there Crazy to suggest taking sat again?

By Dave Berry on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 12:54 pm: Edit

Well, ana marie, regardless of whether your URM's SAT I is 1500 or 1510 (790+710=1500), from where I sit, he's in. (Insert here all my ubiquitous caveats about elite-admission crapshoots and assumptions about superior essays, recs, etc.) He should be taking his IIs this spring, right? My guess is that he'll have a great Writing, Math I or II, and a third of his choice. That will seal his case.

I'll once again raise my point of diminishing returns. While it's very possible to bump that Math score a bit, what if, in his next sitting, he encounters several vocabulary words he doesn't know and boots two or three Verbal questions? Net result: roughly the same score. Is it worth the extra taking? In my opinion, no. I'd rather see him prep up for his IIs and get some good coaching on creating a killer Princeton app!

By ana marie on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:53 pm: Edit

thanks so much.(M is 720 not 710)

By Dave Berry on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 04:34 pm: Edit

>>M is 720<<

All the more reason to leave well enough alone. I rest my case.

BTW, commenting on these two cases of possible retaking made me imagine the ultimate retake scenario, at some point near the end of elite-qualifications frenzy. That would occur when a certain 800/800 might be viewed as tainted because the particular SAT version given that Saturday was notoriously "underchallenging." Thus, all recipients of that day's 1600s would rush to retake in hopes of a more "legitimate" perfect score.

A sports analogy might be that a particular 300 game in bowling was less impressive than another due to "that wobbly 10 pin" back in the sixth frame. Or, in baseball, a certain pitcher's perfect game was less perfect than another's because he threw 108 pitches "instead of only 97" like Don Larsen back in the '56 World Series. Stop the insanity!

By Sally Jacobs on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 12:14 pm: Edit

Student is female, rising senior, PSAT 231, SAT 1480 (800V680M) ACT 36. Some volunteer work (one summer) newspaper editor, math team 4 yrs, scholastic bowl team 4 yrs(2nd in state), URM, one 4 and six 5's in AP classes; all honors and APs and equivalent of 6yrs of Spanish and 6yrs of Math. Will be in MITe this summer. Wants to tutor kids in math next fall. Has been working on essay already.

Just took SAT II's and didn't feel too confident about them and is positive she can do better on math in SAT I. So she wants to reschedule all those tests. I say that her ACT score can stand alone and she can relax now.

Am I right?

By Dave Berry on Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 01:10 pm: Edit

Sally, a 36 ACT equates to a 1600 SAT. Does you daughter know this? If not, you should show her this ACT-SAT conversion chart. Although I don't have all of her stats, from what I see, it appears as though she's looking at a very favorable admissions season, even at the top colleges.

However, Sally, do me a favor. Don't use the word "relax" when talking to a rising senior. That makes me nervous. Just tell her that unless her IIs are unreasonably low, at her current rate of excellence, she should be looking excellent to most admission committees. Give her my congratulations for her superb work so far and tell her to keep up the great work. Keep us posted on her progress, will you? Thanks.

By jnrMOM on Sunday, June 09, 2002 - 10:27 am: Edit

I have also had questions about submitting applications with ACT/SAT scores. My daughter has just finished her junior year. She is awaiting scores of SAT2's from June 1st (writing/math2C/chemistry - just finished AP courses.)She will take SAT1 in October. Her ACT score from this spring was 34. Our plan is to apply to colleges with ACT score, not sure about ED yet. Then, depending on SAT1 and 2's, submitting these also. What do you think of this plan and should we make changes/consider other options for submitting test scores? Thanks

By Sally Jacobs on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 03:26 pm: Edit

Update:

Daughter got a 740 MathII, 750 Physics, 800 Writing on her SAT IIs. I'm so into instant gratification that I couldn't wait til they arrived in the mail.

If I let her she'd take the Math and Physics again. But I'm not gonna let her.

Junior year was her toughest yet and best grades.

She's really looking forward to her senior year.

By davetittle on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 05:25 pm: Edit

my son has just finished his jr year. he has a wtd gpa of 4.68, unweighted 3.86. he has taken all IB courses (6 courses each semester), SAT scores: v=710,m=690; just received SATII's:
v=670,m=710,sp=670. plays varsity football & lacrosse(captain as jr; all-county 2nd team).wants to apply to stanford and duke( i am alum). should he do ed? should he retake tests? what are his chances?

By ankit harish on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 04:30 am: Edit

i got a score of 770 in math and 710 in verbal what are my chances of getting into the top few univ. of the USA

By sgandhi on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 08:22 pm: Edit

Again, ankit harish, it depends on what extracurricular activities you have, your GPA, the intensity of your classes, and how great your college essay. However, a score of 1480 is great and should, at the very least, attract the attention of the college admissions personnel. Good luck.

By Sharon Sanderson on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 04:26 pm: Edit

How do you feel about highly competitive private day schools who do not designate their classes as honors even though they are tougher than suburban school honors classes?

I ask because I have a 15 year old rising junior in such a school, whose current GPA is 3.5. He is way ahead of the game though in course selection. He will be taking Calculus BC, Spainish V, Physics and what not in his junior year. His PSAT for practice last year (age 14) was 200. But, his GPA looks low compared with the mean ranges found on college websites for the schools he is interested in. He just got his SAT II scores back in Chemistry, scoring 720. Since he is so young, should he take the SAT II test in chem again or just shoot for higher scores on the others? And is it worth taking Calculus BC in high school since in his school, he does not get any special waited grade for having taken it? He loves his school and does not want to switch to the strong suburban high school in our area.

I guess we need advice on setting him apart and do not want him to look "lazy" with higher scores and lower comparative gpa.

Thanks,

Worried mom

By Vlad on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 03:07 pm: Edit

The most competitive schools have staff whose job, among other things, is to familiarize themselvdes with area schools. So if a school is as grade-inflated, these people will know it and will take that into account when an applicant's file is evaluated.

What's a 200 PSAT?

By Rhonda on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 03:28 pm: Edit

I suggest talking with the school's college counselor about this -- if it's a highly competetive private school, they should have someone on the payroll whose job it is to make the kids look good, and to make clear to the colleges the meaning of their grading/weighting/ranking system, or lack thereof. Ask to see the school profile. If the school doesn't rank, ask how they will indicate to colleges your son's relative place in the class (some will give decile, e.g.). Also ask how they will indicate the relative difficulty of his courseload compared to other students. These things are important, and the school should be responsive.

By Ronb263 on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 11:27 pm: Edit

hi, here is my college profile (so to speak): 4.0 GPA weighted, 3.9 unweighted, Varsity swimmer from sophmore year, JV captain tennis sophmore year and player since freshman year, SAT: 700M 660V, SAT II: 670 biology, 2 honors freshman and sophmore year, 5 AP Junior year, Dad born in Iraq, Mom born in israel, Volunteer of 100 hrs., worked all through high school 15 hrs. per week, Varsity Debate Team, Business editor of literary magazine junior year, soon to be editor, Spanish Club and youth to youth officer, National merit science award, competitor in Multiple Sclerosis bike tour because mom has MS, National Honor society, top 11% of class, Youth Group position of Israel VP, Sister at University of Michigan, 1st violin from Junior year, In string quartet that practices privately. Okay, so it is a little to descriptive I know, but I was wondering where I should really be applying--any Ivy? Uor MICH? CA schools? And what about Johns Hopkins? Also, am I a "minority" or? Please reply with comments that truly depict the information given. Thank you.

By Weasy2003 on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 12:15 am: Edit

Sorry Bud youre not a minority, youre a white guy...I know because I have middle Eastern Blood as well...sorry

By Ronb263 on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 12:23 am: Edit

Even with my dad being born in Iraq? Oh well, what about the rest of the package? Thoughts, well-rounded? need more?

By Ronb263 on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 08:01 pm: Edit

Where are you from Weasy?

By Weasy2003 on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 09:44 pm: Edit

My parents were both born in Iran, and we are Assyrian

By Ronb263 on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 07:55 pm: Edit

And so that won't get us anything? No minority anywhere--for scholarships, easier admission, a hook? Why is that? And what about the rest of my profile...

By Ron on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 11:12 pm: Edit

Anyone have any suggestions?

By Barbara Shilowich (Workaholic) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 11:17 am: Edit

We'll be glad when this whole college application business is over. Although my son is a terrific kid, we still worry about whether he'll get in where he wants to go because of the craziness of it all. Here's a quick profile; we'd appreciate any thoughts on his chances.(And yes, he's all tested out, so he's going with the test scores indicated):
SAT I 1410) Math 730, Verbal 680
SAT II: Writing 790, Math IC 740, Chemistry 730
ACT : 33
AP Exams - still waiting for scores; will have taken 12 AP classes by the end of senior year(has taken 8 through junior year)
GPA : unweighted 3.93; weighted: 6.36(we have a weird weighting system)(Essentially he has one B)
Class rank: weighted only: 5/550
EXTRAS: 12 years of competitive gymnastics, including state champion sophomore year, couldn't compete most of the season junior year due to serious injury and surgery)
Drama - 4 years of all school drama productions, incluing leads in most of the plays; 8 years professional acting prior to high school
MIsc other stuff, like Theatre Club(Officer), Team Theatre 4 years,Nat'l Honor society, 4 years of Model UN and Model Congress, HOBY, NATIOnal Frech Honor Society, Thespian National Honor Society
60 hours community service
Works 5 hours a week as an assistant gymnastics coach(paid position)
Past summers including 2 PTP trips and 30 hours/week of gymnastics training; this summer attending NJ Governor's School in the Sciences.
His major choices at this time are(in order): Tufts, Middlebury, Amherst, Williams, William and Mary, Bowdoin, Bates, Wake Forest
We're trying to be as realistic as possible.

By ron on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 01:14 pm: Edit

Hey barbara i will give you some advice if you give me some advice.

By Frank on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:59 pm: Edit

Barbara, your son is an exceptional candidate for just about any school he's interested in. Shame on you for the face next to his SAT score - it's a great score, as is his ACT score. Who's putting the pressure on him, you or him? All he needs to do is focus on his essays, and continue to keep his grades up and he can pretty much get into any of those schools. SAT scores are not everything, and if you do some research, you'll see that they're not nearly as important to schools are grades and ECs. Let your son relax a little bit and enjoy his teenage years!

By bshilowich on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:48 pm: Edit

Thanks, Frank, for your advice. Actually, I didn't put the sad face in; sometimes my computer does it automatically when I'm trying to add parentheses and then I can't delete it. I realized after I sent this message that it must have looked like I was unhappy with his scores - but that's not the case at all. We think our son is terrific, but we are also trying to prepare him for any disappointments he might receive during this college process becuase there are so many terrific kids. We've told him if he doesn't get accepted, it's not because of his weaknesses per se, but rather what a particular school is looking for in any given year. And we do worry about his being a white male from the state of NJ, which we've been told by most of the above schools puts him in a very difficult admin category.

The only reason we're even slightly concerned about the testing is that several of the above schools suggested to our son when he visited them that he should try to get his SAT I score(particularly the verbal) up higher. But my son feels he's done the best he can and wants to go with these scores, which we are supporting. But we think his ACT scores put him in a better light, so he's in the process of checking with the schools now to see which scores they would prefer.

Again, thanks for the thoughts of encouragement!

By Frank on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 11:48 pm: Edit

My mistake, I apologize! It sounds like you've all got your heads on straight, and it's awesome the way you're handling it. I wish more parents were like that! I saw a post on another board where some poor girl's father told her the SAT was a test of intelligence and that she was stupid because she scored only 1100 or so, and that 20 years earlier he scored 1200. What a jerk! I wanted to rattle his brains a bit!

By MC on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 12:53 am: Edit

hi i am a junior in a new jersey high school with a 3.52 GPA, all honors classes, 1240 on SAT's, 75 hours of community service. I am also all county 2 years for Varsity baseball and i also played varsity basketball for 3 years. What are my chances of getting into mid-tier schools such as Michigan or Penn State???

By Shyam Seshadri on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 08:35 am: Edit

I am an Indian, currently into my 12th year. I have a SAT I score of 1460 (800 M 660 V). I have scored 89.1 % in my 11th grade. I am going to take my SAT II's this october and am aiming for a Maths IIC 800. I am also taking SAT II Chemistry and Writing. I have won 3 prizes in sports and scored high distinction in a few exams conducted by ETC, Australia (98th Percentile in India). I wanted to know if I have any chance if I apply to the top universities like MIT, Yale.

By uncertainty on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:40 am: Edit

Adding on the previous message...is 1460 SAT (730V 730 M),my third attempt.the composite score is 1530 (730 V 800M). Is there a chance colleges will just look at my indiv test scores instead of the composite?
Thank you very much

By Person on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 12:20 pm: Edit

I find it sad that many of you (especially parents) have become so utterly consumed with and compulsive about getting in to Ivy League schools. Think for yourselves about where YOU want to go; don't buy into other people's estimates of "excellency".

By sheela hickens on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 12:23 pm: Edit

I got a 720 on my SAT test.....I keep retaking it but I cant get a higher score.....what should I do? I dont want to go to a community college....I want to go to a university but I just do not test well....what do I do?

By bah on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 01:02 pm: Edit

720 != not testing well. To some degree they are intelligence tests, a community colllege may be a good place to start. I can't imnagine any U accepting someone with a 720;

By w on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:55 am: Edit

Sheela, why don't you try a prep class. They can probably help you get into at leat the 1200s.

By fdg on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 04:15 pm: Edit

wow, everyone here is crazy, actually joining in a discussion group about all this, wow, ya'll should know if you have a good enough chance of getting in, a lot of pple have some good things, bu tey have a lotof bad things that pull them down, i.e. getting B's, u have to have a sportand be good at the stae level a least and a fine art, liek piano,and leadership(at least vp or prez in clubs) and top 2 at skool and 1500, at least, SAT, or 33 ACT

By txtenni1 on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 04:54 pm: Edit

i got aa 240 on the PSAT and a 1600 on the SAT, and 800's in Math 2c and 1c and writing and chemistry and spanish, i took the physics B ap and ero hist test my sophomore yr and got all 5's, and i took Calc Bc and Us hist and Eng lang and Chem and both governments my junior yr and got 5's, now, im taking AP span and eng lit and bth physics and bio and both econ, i was the class prez my fresh and sophomore yr and i was student body VP my junior yr and im studnt body prez now, and i'm ranked #5 internationally in tennis, a couple months ago i made it to the semis of theJunior US open in NY, im the prez of the community service club at my skool, i play the piano and won state competitions, and i won a state math competition, my class rank is 1, i have a prefect GPA, i did research over the summer at the Southwestern med skool and i took part of the Scholar-athlete games held in RI last summer, in which ppl efrom all over the world came and arethra franklin preormedat it, and i teach underrivledge children in an afterskool program called summerbridge, Do i have a chance of getting into STAnford? i ive in tx and go to a private skool

By Jag Senna on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 09:52 pm: Edit

Hey im just wondering u all, i have one more chance to take the tests before college, and Im wondering which to take, SAT1 or SAT2?
My SAT Score is 1430 (720M 710V) and my
SAT 2 score: 790Physics, 750Math2c and 650Writing
im almost certain I can do better on the SAT2 writing and the SAT1, as i have taken them only once. (i know, i left it late, that was stupid)

Which one is worth taking?

Im also minority living outside the US, what r my chances of getting in to top schools if i do improve my scores a bit? I have tons of ECAs and im confident with my teacher references.

By uncertain on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 09:43 am: Edit

does it pay to retake the SATII world history exam with a 760?

By Pat57575 (Pat57575) on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 02:39 pm: Edit

probably not... that's a great score.

By Andrew Sanders on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:52 pm: Edit

im in 8th and while taking sat1 i got an 1100. is this a good score for my age?

By wootay on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:09 pm: Edit

Andrew -> You're only in the 8th grade? That's a good score. You'll do great when you're a junior or senior.

By wootay on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:09 pm: Edit

Andrew -> You're only in the 8th grade? That's a good score. You'll do great when you're a junior or senior.

By uninformed on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:46 pm: Edit

I am an eighth grader who recently took the sat-1. I happened to see my scores on the college board site. The site said that this was an unofficial result and not a true reflection of the score. Does this mean that this score is unweighted. Do they weight sat scores. Since this is the first time i took the test i would really like some information.

By AKgal on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:13 pm: Edit

My son is scheduled to take the SAT this month as a 7th grader as part of the Midwest Talent Search. He's a fine student and test taker, consistently scoring 99 percentile across the board on standardized tests such as CTBS and ISTEP. But he's started looking over the SAT prep pamplet and is very thrown by the math, much of which he's never been exposed to. My question: should we cancel his participation or just go ahead and let him take the test even though he probably will due very badly in math?

By Claire on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 03:21 pm: Edit

Definitely let him go ahead and take it. Colleges know that seventh graders aren't going to do as well as 11th and 12th graders. If he does do well, it will look really good for him. If he doesn't, it won't hurt. Talent Searches are a great opportunity to practice taking SATs to get used to the format and know what to expect when he takes it in high school.

By robertmaeder on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:10 am: Edit

It doesn't really matter. When colleges say, that they have an average it means some did worse by upto about 50 points and some did better by about 50 points. My point is, with a solid GPA and those kinds of scores, you can get into pretty much any college.

By moonlesia on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:26 pm: Edit

uninformed- the scores you see on the website is the same score you will get in the mail. (Unless there was some bizzare computer error). All the unofficial-score stuff means is that you can't print out that page and mail it off to a college.
The SAT is weighted, sort of. The scores are adjusted because each test date had different questions and some may have been a harder test, so they fix it so a certain percentage of people get the highest score, or something like that. Anyway, the score you see has already been adjusted.

By username on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 06:38 pm: Edit

What is the point of taking the SAT in 7th or 8th grade it its gonna be changed in 2005 anyway?

By anonymous. on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 03:23 pm: Edit

This board is _ridiculous_. imo, it amounts to yuppy elitism-- overzealous parents with superiority complexes who are forging resumes for their precious genius kids. Their kids' inherited complex will then amplify itself at certain yuppish institutions and inbreed with those of common ilk.
I've witnessed "honors students" who go to the local soup kitchen only to socialize and ridicule homeless people. Of course, the admissions office wont hear that story.
Have you parents ever wondered whether your "support" actually encourages your children to become decent people? Or does it teach them that their percentiles represent their human value?
I realize this post is topically irrelevant, but it's quite socially relevant.
Now, before the flames begin-- I scored 1500sat,33act in my first try on both with no prep. I come from an abusive background and my parents couldnt care less about me. I've chosen an ordinary public university b/c i hate the vanity and elitism of certain schools. ~peace out~

By Ban All Elitists on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 06:21 pm: Edit

yeah well i got a 1600 on my first try and a 36 and i am a lone bum .... see what i am saying? you almost contradict yourself, "anonymous."

and that's just the trouble

By dxiw on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:25 am: Edit

txtenni - with your stats if you don't get into every ivy and high end school I'd be surprised

By LiLy on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 12:04 am: Edit

I am an International Baccalaureate student with concerns:
So far I have taken 7 AP courses: Am. History, Am. Gov., Macro Economics, Spanish, physics, Calculus AB, english. I am currently in 6 IB classes which include Physics, Calculus, Contep History, Spanish, and english. I took theory of knowledge last year. I took all Honors and pre-IB courses my 9th and 10th grade year.
I have a 4.0 unweighted GPA and a weighted of 6.2
My rank is currently 1
I am hispanic.
I have been a Ballet and Jazz dancer for 13 years, I have been President of the Interact Club (community service club) since 10th grade, I have been in a non-profit dance company for 7 years, I am VP of Best Buddies, and I am part of a youth group.
I interned as a medical assistant 10 hours a week during my 10th and 11th grade year.

But here is the bad part: I am a horrible test taker. I got a 1150 on my SAT (550V and 600M).
Will my low SAT score hinder my acceptance into the schools of my choice: Swarthmore, Haverford, Bryn Mawr, Princeton, and Brown?

By davidali on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 05:08 pm: Edit

Hi...I'm from Trinidad and of Indian descent. I got a 1480 (M=780,V=700) and SAT II( Math IC=730, Writing=720, Physics=730)...Is this good enough for the Ivies (me being an international student and all) ? i also have a good extra curricular record and am in the top 10% of my class....

By matt on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 06:22 pm: Edit

should a 1550 be retaken?

By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 06:39 pm: Edit

matt, a 1550 is fine. Dont bother retaking. Perhaps you should take the ACT now or focus on your SAT IIs....

By Pam Louis on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:32 pm: Edit

Wow, ya'll got a lot of scores on them there sat exams. My kid got a 1340 on it, and a 33 on the act. is that good? I wouldnot know. I am at work always when the parent teacher conferences are and the college meetins she says its good she wants to go to vanderbuilt, thats the only school in the state she wants to go to but im making her apply to the community college and the university of tennesese my wife don't live with us so i cant ask her about this stuff
wat do you think about my daugter
here is the colleges she likes
vanderbiuld, harvard, the university of miami, and the unviersity of north carolina
she told me her sat2 scores are
760for the writing and 800 for the math and a 770 fr the physics

she wanted me to ask
she likes school alot
thanks for your help everybody