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Discus: SAT/ACT Tests and Test Preparation: May 2003 Archive: TOEFL
By Rubenizm (Rubenizm) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 07:49 pm: Edit

Ok i'm a sophomore and i've been in the US since august 2001. When i came to the US, i immediately took honors english and got B's freshman year, now i have A's for both semesters in honors english 10 and i'm taking AP next year. My verbal SAT is around 650 right now and my writing PSAT was a 78.

Columbia and several other schools i'm interested in require you to take the TOEFL. Columbia requires it if your language of instruction for the past 5 years wasn't english and if english isn't your first language.

So is it bad if colleges see that i took the TOEFL even if i get a perfect or near perfect score? I mean will i be judged... differently?

Cuz my brother had been in the States for less than 2 years, he never took it and he didn't have problems about it at any of the schools he applied to.

And to tell you the truth i don't wanna take it. It costs money and time. I might be able to get away with it, but should I?

By M_Eduardo (M_Eduardo) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:03 pm: Edit

you are required if english is your second language. It is expensive, around $100, and it does take long. I scored a 287/300 without prep. You can probably score a perfect which will look really good.

My verbal SAT is a 590, math 710.

By Tweety620 (Tweety620) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 09:56 pm: Edit

you r never required to take the toefl if u have been in the US for a couple of years and have good english grades in addition to satisfactory SAT I verbal, from what I understand, the toefl usually replaces ur SAT I score if u want it to, but i m not sure, I have been in the US for almost 4 years now, so when I apply later this year(i m a junior), I will have been in the US for 4 years and a couple of months, but I dont plan on taking the toefl, i have talked to several college admission offices and they told me to only take it if my SAT I verbal is not very good or if i dont feel comfortable with english.
i dont know is this helps, but if u hear anything else, please post cuz i want to know too

By M_Eduardo (M_Eduardo) on Sunday, May 25, 2003 - 10:28 pm: Edit

The toefl does not replace you SAT verbal.. from what I have heard.

Well, anyone whose english is not the first language, in my school, has to take it...

By Rubenizm (Rubenizm) on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 01:35 am: Edit

my brother never took it and he'd been in the US for less than 2 years. His sat verbal was around a 720 though. He had no trouble about this at mit, cornell, cmu, uiuc or umd. He told me to call to the schools and ask them.
thanks for the input

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