5/3 SAT I

Discus: SAT/ACT Tests and Test Preparation: May 2003 Archive: 5/3 SAT I
 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:04 am: Edit

Just took the test. Overall, the math was easy. The verbal was okay: passages on Napster, Plant Genetics, Neurology, African American Women, and a Discussion on Dreams.

 By Akaflex (Akaflex) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:46 am: Edit

how did u just take the test?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:52 am: Edit

I'm in Germany

 By Baby (Baby) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:57 am: Edit

Hey ... what is the hard vocab on the test to look up in the dictioinary ... help quick!

 By Apguy (Apguy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:41 am: Edit

>>Napster<<

LOL. Really? I'm sure tons of kids have enough background in that subject to answer the questions pretty easily.

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:03 pm: Edit

i think i did pretty well today. heres what i got for the fill-in answers from the math- any descrepencies?
144
2/3
2
10/3
300
36
12
5
71
10/7

 By Asdf37 (Asdf37) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:10 pm: Edit

I got 8100 instead of 300
and for the second one, 3 is also an answer (2 and 3 both work)

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:13 pm: Edit

The Perfect Squares Problem:

Give a run-down cuz I got a different Answer

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:15 pm: Edit

I agree with asdf37, so that means I prob got 10/10 on that. Plus the confidence that I have from the last 10 MCQ's, that means the QC's and first 25 MCQ's will decide whether I score well or not.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:27 pm: Edit

anyone remember any verbal questions--?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:34 pm: Edit

the perferct square question is 8100..

you should get:
(2*9*5)^2 = 8100

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:34 pm: Edit

What was the answer to the verbal question which was: stronghold:fortification...seemed easy but I wasn't sure of the answer choices...

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:35 pm: Edit

What were the choices, I seem to remember I narrowed it down to 2

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:35 pm: Edit

Which 25q math section do u guys think was the experimental... im praying it wasn't the first section because the latter one was hard.

Statistically, does the ets even give experimental for the first section of the test?

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:36 pm: Edit

it was...Monument:commemorative and thoroughfare:sidewalk or something like that.....

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:37 pm: Edit

i didnt have that question to my recollection

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

the Experimental Math is the 15 Computer Program thingamajiggie.

The Real Math section had that x-y=5 xy=7

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

the Experimental Math is the 15 Computer Program thingamajiggie.

The Real Math section had that x-y=5 xy=7

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

i knew the answer to one of the mult. choice was "amalgam"... all thanx to the filter cd "amalgamut" making me curious what it could mean (amalgamut isnt a word btw- i just remembered the closest thing to it)

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

either did i

 By Fastforward (Fastforward) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:39 pm: Edit

Do any of you ever consider the fact that possibly people are on this board getting info. for a test they are about to take???? The test is given in different time zones.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:40 pm: Edit

the last math quesiton of the 10 question section was c.. squareroot of 2 : 2

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:40 pm: Edit

fastforward -- west coast is 3 hr time difference...SAT is 3 hours PLUS administration ••••...so dont worry.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:41 pm: Edit

A Stronghold Provides Fortification.

A Memorial Provides a Commemorative
A Throughfare Provides a Sidewalk

I'm having trouble dropping the article "a".

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:42 pm: Edit

"The Real Math section had that x-y=5 xy=7 "

Are you postive? how can u be so sure? I hope you are right because i went 25/25 on that section and i am confident i got them all correct. However i only answred 20 on the other one.. it was hard

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:42 pm: Edit

Which math section was experimental????? Was it the section with the 3d cube where u had to find the smallest angle?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:42 pm: Edit

was 35 the answer to that x-y=5 xy=7 one?

 By Tenniscassieo (Tenniscassieo) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:43 pm: Edit

hahaha thats so awesome

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:43 pm: Edit

that stronghold/foritication was experimental anyways

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:44 pm: Edit

Actually, I got sqrt 3: 1

For example, hypothetically, if all the lenghths of the lines were 2:

The lenght of the imaginary line would be 2(sqrt3), and the line in the middle would be 2.

2(sqrt3) : 2

Simplifies to sqrt3:1

Maybe I did this wrong...

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:45 pm: Edit

im pretty sure that ratio was root3 to 1

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:46 pm: Edit

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:47 pm: Edit

root3 to 1! hell yea.

What was the psychologist trying to say to the guy?

What was the answer to DISTILL:PURE?
What was THEATER:ENTERTAIN?

The one about the two girls standing back to back and walking ...

And also, this one was probably really easy but I think I may have read the question wrong. There are x kids in a camp... half are girls.. y are boys. It was quant comp... A B C D?

What was the answer to the last question in the 15 minute math section? With the paralellogram with 5 equal segments.

And also, the one with the two paralell lines and how many lines you could make to connect two points. It seemed too easy.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:47 pm: Edit

Mattymatt, I know that the Cube one, and you have to find the smallest angle is the REAL test section, because I only had 3 math sections.

CB tried to screw me over, this was the order of it:

1) 25 MC Math (Real, plus I thought I would have 4 maths after going through this one)
2) 35 MC Verbal (Real)
3) 15/10 Math (Real)
4) 35 MC Verbal (Experimental, this threw me off, plus the uncomfortable feeling of doing 3 verbal sections in a row.)
5) 30 MC Verbal (Real)
6) 13 MC VErbal (Real)
7) 10 MC Math(Real)

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:48 pm: Edit

if all the angles of the parallegoram were equal that means they were each 90°. from that you draw in the other diagnoal and make right triangles. Work out the math and the answer should be .7 soemthign.. thats what i did anyway unless i calculated wrong

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:50 pm: Edit

nah...u take it as 2 triangles....so since they are equilateral, all the angles in the triangle are 60...from there i used law of sines, and since the diagonal divides the angle, the triangle would have angles of 30, 30, and 120....so using law of sines u end up with the sqrt 3:1 ratio

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:50 pm: Edit

oh man, i just totally crushed that test.

i am thinking 1550-1600 (got only 1400 on the april test but that was a fluke).

math was average (but i still know i got 750+; i am good at math). verbal was easy (i know i got 750+ here too; i am decent at verbal but not great).

jason, the answer to that 25/50 QC was C.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:51 pm: Edit

3 verbals in a row OUCH.. but im glad the frist section counted.

jason the THEATRE:ENTERTAIN answer wash School: enlighten.. i think?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:51 pm: Edit

oops double post

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:52 pm: Edit

Ok, I'll go over the answer again Matt.

There are variables, so the only way to do this is to plug in.

Say for example, that all sides are 2. So imagine that 2 equilateral triangles connected like a parallelogram. The middle line coming down is also 2.

Treat 1 equilateral triangle to find altitude. Could do it by Pythagorean. a^2 + b^2 = c^2.

Remember, AC goes through the midpoint, so you have 1 as the base and 2 as the hypotenuse. Draw it out...

Then you input 1^2 + b^2 = 2^2
b= sqrt3

That's only the midpoint, so times 2. Thus, AC is 2(sqrt3). Then you put it into the ratio again with your plugged-in number, 2.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:52 pm: Edit

classroom (not school): enlighten is correct.

the cube was NOT experimental.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:54 pm: Edit

exp is right. radical 3 to 1 was the answer for that one. it was kind of tough.

the toughest math questions: that question, the cube question, the question about the steps, maybe a couple of others. the cpu program question was experimental and i know because i didn't have it (verbal exp here).

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:54 pm: Edit

the cube one was the angle including the point at the opposite far bottom corner, right?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:55 pm: Edit

same thing

expatz im so stupid i i just calculated wrong.. if u notice the answer difference is liek 1.7somehting vs. .7somehting.. so i picked the wrong answer on mistake .. oh well i can spare 1 wrong question

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:55 pm: Edit

i believe that was the answer. it was angle D, right? i was considering that one and another one. i remember eliminating two of the angles because i knew they were the same.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:55 pm: Edit

Anyone remember what they got for the last 5 math questions for 25 MC Math Section?

Also, how about the African American Women Passage and the Autobiography Passage?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:56 pm: Edit

angle D i believe.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:57 pm: Edit

i thoguht all the passages were easy.. but i generally score high on them anyhow. The only 2 i couldnt get which i omitted where the 2 questions on tone (from diff passages)

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:57 pm: Edit

Arthur, the one you're talking about, was it the angle going along the diagnol of the square base?

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:57 pm: Edit

for the camp one ... what if x=0? or was it wrong to assume that? i had C at first ... i wish i hadn't changed it to D because now i'm pretty sure i'm wrong. that's what i get for overanalyzing lol.

how many d's were in quant comp?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:58 pm: Edit

be more specific baout the african woman passage and ill answer your questions

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:58 pm: Edit

Don't worry Matt, I screwed up on one of the 25 MC one where 3 lines intersect and you find angle y+z. The answer was like 245, but I put 195, so that sucked. No 800 this time.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:58 pm: Edit

it went from the far corner of the cube to the closest corner. heh, it's really hard to describe w/o drawing a picture. it went from top to bottom.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:59 pm: Edit

3 d's i think? but i omitted one so it may be 4
Quick fact: if you look in your 10 real book there is almost never an sat where there isnt 3 or 4 d's total for the quant

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:00 pm: Edit

I had a couple C's in the beginning of the QC, maybe 2-3 D's in the first 10. Then 10 afterwards, it was all A's and B's, possibly 1 C. I forgot

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:00 pm: Edit

closest corner? u mean closest to the viewer, right? not closest to that far corner-

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:01 pm: Edit

a pentagon has 540 degrees right?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

does anyone know what the experimental verbal was? was it the african american women and dreams or the antique one?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

one tricky math one -- there were 2 parallel lines and a transversal with an 80 degree angle and it said what is one of the angles when these eventually meet--- answer is 10 (NOT 80)

what about that one with 2 parallel lines and 3 points on one line and 4 points on the other--- how many unique lines through--- i said 12

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

Yea Arthur, you just described the diagnol of the square. Thx.

And also the Unitary (forgot name) Numbers Set, question ~#23?

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

yeah, closest to the viewer. again, it's tough to describe. i am pretty sure we had the same answer though and it's right. my friend (good at math) also put that answer.

btw, for the last question in that section, did you guys get 35? that was kind of hard too.

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

yeah kiki

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:03 pm: Edit

12 is correct jason

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:04 pm: Edit

jason: 12 is right.

"one tricky math one -- there were 2 parallel lines and a transversal with an 80 degree angle and it said what is one of the angles when these eventually meet--- answer is 10 (NOT 80)"

i don't remember that one, not sure i had it.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:04 pm: Edit

Pentagon, I think I put 72, keeping in mind 540.

Experimental Verbal was Plant Genetics Passage

Jason, the tricky one was on experimental probably cuz I didn't see it.

The answer to 2 parallel lines is 12

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:04 pm: Edit

i got the same jasontoff

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:05 pm: Edit

expataz -- 35 for that one

for verbal--

clientelle: customer :: audience: spectator, right?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:05 pm: Edit

Good, the 35 for #25 MC is right.

How bout #23, with crappy set, and you find k?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:06 pm: Edit

Jason, I also put audience:spectator

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:06 pm: Edit

for quant comp...
SET A: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
SET B: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6

what was the answer? it was the last quant comp.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:06 pm: Edit

"clientelle: customer :: audience: spectator, right?"

this is one of the questions of which i was unsure. i was deciding between audience:spectator and garment:wardrobe. ultimately i chose wardrobe:garment, but i might be wrong.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:07 pm: Edit

right again jason audience:spectator

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:07 pm: Edit

kiki, answer was C. that one was easy considering it was the last QC.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:07 pm: Edit

What was the purpose for mentioning that the guy was a physician?

 By Maximum182 (Maximum182) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:08 pm: Edit

Can anyone remember some tricky SC or analogies.

For one analogy i got BLAZE::something as an answer

What was the answer to the SC with some woman doing something, one chice was courage, although that wasn't right im pretty sure.

Any help appreciated.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:08 pm: Edit

a group of cutomers is your clientelle. a group of specators is an audience

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:08 pm: Edit

what were the answer choices 1001001?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit

the reason I didn't choose garment and wardrobe, is that it's not a human object.

Clientele is a group of customers. Audience is a group of spectators.

Wardrobe is a group of garments, but its unnatural.

LOL, Kiki, u reminded me. You know why casino's designate 7 as the number for craps?

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:10 pm: Edit

Okay, I'm not sure if I can remember this correctly but i'll try. The only math question I wasn't sure was I think #11 in the quantative comparison. something like:
6x + 4y = 7; 6x - 5y = 4, (i don't think those are the exact numbers but you get the idea.) which is greater x or 1? I put D, cannot be determined, anyone remember this question and know which answer was right?

Was pragmatic an answer on the Napster section?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:11 pm: Edit

1001 - i wrote to show his perspective

arthur, it was wardrobe: garment

the SET A and SET B 123456 was C, equal

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:11 pm: Edit

And what was the purpose for the quotations for the napster passage?

The choices for the physician (that I narrowed down) were to show his understanding, or to display his point of view.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:12 pm: Edit

pragmatic is right.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:13 pm: Edit

maximum--

extinguish:: blaze was an answer to stanch: flow

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:13 pm: Edit

purpose of quotations: skeptical. btw, i thought the reading was unusually easy this time.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:14 pm: Edit

yeah, extinguish:blaze is right.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:15 pm: Edit

Arthur-- skeptical of Apt something?

bart simpson: i believe it was somethin where Ys cancelled and u could figure it out

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:15 pm: Edit

Arthur-- skeptical of Apt something?

bart simpson: i believe it was somethin where Ys cancelled and u could figure it out

 By Maximum182 (Maximum182) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:15 pm: Edit

I got that too arthur, and the readings were easy except the one about dreams was a bit skecth IMO. A

Anyone remember sentence completions?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:16 pm: Edit

bart, are u sure it wasnt 6x+5y=7?

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:16 pm: Edit

skeptical of the stuff in the quotations or something like that.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:17 pm: Edit

matt= i think that was it

sent comp: the one with harvesting fields or somethin was denuded or somethin

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:17 pm: Edit

yea forgot the wording but the answer was somehting about how the author didnt agree with the quotations

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:18 pm: Edit

denuded was right. the last one was hubris i believe.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:19 pm: Edit

OK... How can anyone be sure that the Math section with xy=7 and x-y = 5 was REAL?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:19 pm: Edit

hubris is right too.

what bout the one apilacho (u know what i mean): islands

what was the answer, i forget

also, gibe: ridicule

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:19 pm: Edit

what was everyone's answers for the african american women/ dreams passage? I was almost positive that those passages were the experimental ones.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:20 pm: Edit

I'm sure because I only had 3 sections, and that was in it.

How bout the 25 MC section, with the Sets, and you had to find k, was it 2?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:20 pm: Edit

at the end--- quizzical or satirical?

andrew--experimental changes from person to person-- since a lot of us had it, it has to be real (also the people with extra verbals had it too)

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:21 pm: Edit

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:21 pm: Edit

What was the anser for the sentece comp that had something to do with a disease. It was a double blank

I coulndt decided between eradicate and something

or foster and somehting

i put eradicate and ... though

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:21 pm: Edit

was skepticism for the napster one? which passage was it? i can't remember.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:22 pm: Edit

yahright -- i had those 2 with math exp, so it was there....i just dont remember the questions...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:22 pm: Edit

mattymatt -- 2nd blank flourish is what i put..

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:22 pm: Edit

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:23 pm: Edit

Which was longer, the dream one or the black women? And how many questions each?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:23 pm: Edit

Jason,

Apalego is a group of islands. A conselation is a group of stars

Anser: Coneselation:Star

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:23 pm: Edit

anyone have flourish in an answer choice?

 By Azura (Azura) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:26 pm: Edit

hey how was the difficulty of this test compared to other tests? arthur i know i was in the same boat as u when we got screwed over by the april test.

overall, was this test difficult? average? easy? especially compared to the january and april exams?

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:27 pm: Edit

what about the hug in the black women passage?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:28 pm: Edit

This is gonna be a steep Math curve. I'm thinking 57 Raw Score for Math is 740.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:28 pm: Edit

azura -- i took april, these are my thoughts

i came out of the test upset...i didnt think i did well (in April i came out happy)

when i got my april scores, i was very disapointed--but i had anticipated that from reading posts here (Seeing that i got some wrong)

on this test, it turns out that my guesses for like ALL the analogies were correct--so i think the answer choices were more guess-friendly.

math was difficult, but it seems that it was hard only in the exp section i had--some tricky ones here and there (especially one with the answer 35)

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:28 pm: Edit

one more analogy....
BOOR: RUDENESS

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:28 pm: Edit

THANK YOU Matty!! I completely guessed on that island one and it worked out! And surprisingly, I think that overall I am not doomed, I did pretty well.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:29 pm: Edit

boor is a rude person...but what were the answer choices?

for sent comp, was the 2nd answer to the dual one with the disease: flourish

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:31 pm: Edit

for black women--what was the answer to the ya ya gumbo question--was it multiplicity and inclusion

also, what was the purpose of the metamaphorical hug around the shoulders?

dreams -- what was the prupose of the first "know" as apposed to the second"?

what was the something of life?- was it activity or responsibility

what was the asnwer to the last quetsions on dreams?

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:32 pm: Edit

OK, here are my 3 errors so far:

-The 3 lines intersecting in 25 MC and you find angle y+ angle x. The answer was like 245, and I put 195.

-The QC #15 with {1,2,3,4,5,6}. (Stupid, I know)

-The QC #11 with 6x + 4y = 7; 6x - 5y = 4 or something like that. I put A/B, but some of you guys are saying D.

That means my Raw Score so far is a 56.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:32 pm: Edit

the first "know" was more psychological/spiritual/in depth

i wrote activity for the life one

yaya gumbo, i put mutiplicity and inclusion

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:33 pm: Edit

So what is the general consensus? Was the math easy or harder than normal?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:35 pm: Edit

jasontoff--was the answer to the first "know" more profound?

I also put activity --- was that right?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:35 pm: Edit

i say slightly easier-but thats because i got the 1 or 2 that might be tricky....

im mad because i finished the last short math section in like 5 minutes to think about a math question in the earlier section which turned out to be experimental!! i mightve gotten some wrong now..

anyone remember math from the short last section?

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:35 pm: Edit

wait -- psychological/in depth was an answer choice? i didn't even see that

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:36 pm: Edit

what other answers for the verbal section did you guys put? Molar:tooth, and what about reading comprehensions and sentence completions? Any one remember those?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:36 pm: Edit

yahright -- profound is what i think
i put activity as well

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Was inventiveness a choice for the yaya gumbo?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Was inventiveness a choice for the yaya gumbo?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:38 pm: Edit

was ironic understatement the answer? because 'understatement' fit the best, but ironic?

was it quizzical or satirical?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:38 pm: Edit

 By Snv (Snv) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:39 pm: Edit

What was the answer to distill: pure?

what about the triangle problem where the sum of two sides is twice the other?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:39 pm: Edit

What was the question and choices for yaya gumbo?

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:39 pm: Edit

myopic definitely was

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:40 pm: Edit

myopic was not an answer. it was in the passage

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:41 pm: Edit

For me, myopic was definately a possible answer for a sentence completion. Just not sure whether it's right

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:41 pm: Edit

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:41 pm: Edit

myopic WAS an answer== it means short-sightedness i think, so it is right

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit

dammit i said satirical but im pretty sure it is quizzical- theres some bootleg 2nd definition

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:42 pm: Edit

What was the FULL question for myopic?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:43 pm: Edit

it WAS myopic, it was satirical, and there was an ironic understatement

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:44 pm: Edit

distill:pure was concentrate:intense....is that rigth?

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:44 pm: Edit

i put satirical. what was the one for gibe is to something?

 By Incudude (Incudude) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

the myopic one was something about how the company ppl were idiots because they did stuff without seeing the long tem effects
myopic=short sighted

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

boor: rudeness :: dupe: gullibility

it said "the employees only thought about what was happening NOW, they were --myopic--"

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:45 pm: Edit

lol jason once again CORRECT

and i think for the sentence comp erradicate went with flourish

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:46 pm: Edit

what was the answer for the game board question dealing with the letter F and moving spaces, the AB thing of moving 10 steps, and the..red green and blue candies.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:46 pm: Edit

yahright -- i didnt put concentrate: intense, i put a different one, i forget which one

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:46 pm: Edit

anyone know the last answer to the dreams? it was like "which of the following statements if proven true would prove the author wrong"

 By Snv (Snv) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:47 pm: Edit

What was the answer to distill: pure?

what about the triangle problem where the sum of two sides is twice the other?

did anyone get this one?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:48 pm: Edit

mattymatt- u fuckin rule!! i think i aced analogies and sent comp....now critical reading im thinkin like 10 wrong!!!

tosta-- for the moving 10 steps it was like 10/7

red blue green candies, 36 total i believe

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:48 pm: Edit

Does anybody remember the full question concerning yaya gumbo for the black women?

Thanks

1001001

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:49 pm: Edit

isn't it distill is to make pure while concentrate is to make more intense?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:49 pm: Edit

yahright: i put that it would prove wrong if dreams were completely random

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:49 pm: Edit

What was the gameboard question?? I had the math experimental and do not remember it at all...

For the containers, I got x/8

for the red/green/blue, I got 36

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:50 pm: Edit

What was the distill:pure one? I forgot the choices. I know that distill is to purify something.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm: Edit

i took concentrate in its more common definition as to think intensely...but i see what your saying....i forget what i put though...

 By Snv (Snv) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm: Edit

what did u get for k(2x+3)(x-1)=0 prob.?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm: Edit

I am pretty sure that it wasn't that dreams were random. Because that wasn't his point. He said that dreams were some sort of extension of reality.

1001001

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm: Edit

anyone else remember more SC?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:51 pm: Edit

"which of the following statements if proven true would prove the author wrong"

The answer to that question was somehting like dreams are nothing more then a bunch of random images.

im postive

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:52 pm: Edit

100 -- I put that distilling makes something pure while concentrating makes something intense...I don't know though

does anyone know if the metaphorical "hug" was self-interest or misguided affection?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:52 pm: Edit

SNV -- k=0 because x>1

1001-- it said which would prove him WRONG--randomness of dreams would counter him

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:53 pm: Edit

dupe: gulibility was wrong... I remember narrowing it down to that and something else...

For the SPR questions, was one of your answers 65? It was like the average of a couple numbers, and was one of last ones in the section...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:53 pm: Edit

yahright-- i put calculated self-interest because they wanted the women on their side...i dnt know if its right

can anyone verify the crit reading that says the guy says he was a physician to further state his point of view?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:54 pm: Edit

What was the answer to the yaya gumbo question? It was something like:

multiple inventiveness

 By Mew246 (Mew246) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:54 pm: Edit

How was each subject in general? i mean in level of difficulty compared to the other sat i in the year

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:55 pm: Edit

Jasontoff:

Yea, that is what I put to further his point, not to certify his authority.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:55 pm: Edit

why is dupe: gullibility wrong?

monty...how sure are u?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:55 pm: Edit

the gridin question about 5 people writing an integer on 5 cards and the average is 15.
what is the greatest possible postive integer it asked or something

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:55 pm: Edit

Yaya, I said Misguided affection...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:56 pm: Edit

dupe: gullibility is RIGHT

definition of dupe: An easily deceived person.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:56 pm: Edit

For the average question, I did not get 65, I got 71. It was if 5 people put positive integers on a card and the average was 15, what could the greatest number be?

They could be:
1 1 1 1 71

And the average would be 15.

 By Snv (Snv) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:56 pm: Edit

dupe: gullibility is def. right, the answer was not 65 because the numbers were 1,1,1,1, and 71--- i first thought it was 65 as well, but the numbers don't have to be different.

yahright: i put self interest

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm: Edit

That's it, I'm gonna break into my school after Monday classes, and I'm gonna change some answers, heh.

...Pleasant but unfeasible thought...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm: Edit

mattymatt-- 71, yea== tricky because you'd expect Distinct integers, but its not.

misguided affection??? why is it misguided? its guided correctly just not well justified according to the black women

 By Jm405 (Jm405) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm: Edit

was the answer to the question asking what is the probability for the guy working on a tuesday, 1/5?

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm: Edit

i said misguided affection as well

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 01:58 pm: Edit

does anyone know if the metaphorical "hug" was self-interest or misguided affection?

misguided affection i put.. 95% sure

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit

what month was it after 90 months? i put June

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit

Why was it misguided affection?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit

putting your arm around someone is a sign of affection.. However this affection is misguided because it is only done to silence the voice of the black woman

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit

for the misguided affection versus self-interest, can people like "vote" and put any past REAL SAT verbal scores?
ex:

690v, self-interest

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:01 pm: Edit

what was the answer for the senior/junior question of money on tuesday

 By Lnacen (Lnacen) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:01 pm: Edit

for everyone who had the dream,black woman,napster, and neurology passages, was our experimental verbal or math?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:02 pm: Edit

I put misguided affection too...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:02 pm: Edit

tosta2-- i had exp math, but no month one after 90 months

i had, what percent of integers are multiples of 3 from 1 to 99 --> 1/3

mattymatt-i took it as they put their arm around becuase they wanted them on their "Team" to fight for women's rights or black people's rights

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

Ohhhh, I thought you were refering to yaya gumbo. What was the answer for that. I remember that yaya gumbo was a social gathering in which everybody told stories.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

"putting your arm around someone is a sign of affection.. However this affection is misguided because it is only done to silence the voice of the black woman "

Mattymatt, it doesn't seem misguided to do it to silence the voice of the women, cause the definition is Based or acting on error (according to dictionary.com). It doesn't seem that they were doing it based on error... it seemed they were scheming to make the women stay quiet. Thats why I put calculated self-interest. It threw me off originally cause it is extreme, but I thought it was the one that best fit.

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

Lnacen, math

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:04 pm: Edit

i usually go around 37/40 on CR

i put miguided affection

also in that passage the answer to the question about the last paragraph was multiplicity somehting

 By Moreau1985 (Moreau1985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:04 pm: Edit

Was this test hard? I didn't take it, i'm just curious, how did it compare to the rest?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:04 pm: Edit

misguided definition by dictionary.com: "Based or acting on error; misled"

so misled...like towards the wrong person-- but they correctly targeted black women...hmm

another definition by princeton-
adj 1: poorly conceived or thought out; "an ill-conceived plan to take over the company" [syn: ill-conceived] 2: wrong in e.g. opinion or judgment; "well-meaning but misguided teachers"; "a mistaken belief"; "mistaken identity" [syn

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:04 pm: Edit

"overall, was this test difficult? average? easy? especially compared to the january and april exams?"

my take: math was average for sat math. easy for me though. i think i got an 800 unless i made careless errors. for comparison purposes, i thought the april math was extremely difficult. i got like 6 wrong or something and got a 700. on practices i am generally at 780+.

verbal, on the other hand, was very easy in my opinion. this is great for me since i am not good at verbal. i think i tore it up (maybe a couple wrong). i might have gotten an 800; definitely 750+.

in other words, i predict the math curve will be average and the verbal curve will be harsh.

all in all, MUCH MUCH easier than the april test (which i thought had an impossible math and an average verbal). the april test had nasty curves too - totally unfair. i am SO relieved after taking this test.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:05 pm: Edit

on the dreams...here's what I put..the one about the "boundaries" was something about "the conventional start of life" the second know to the first know was more profound...the reason children have that agreement is because they are learning the normal way to live (something like that)...and the one after that I put activity...everyone put your answers for this passage down (if you remember)

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:05 pm: Edit

lnacen, the experimental was math.

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:06 pm: Edit

so no one got the 90 months after October ..and if so, June?

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:09 pm: Edit

Tosta, that was your experimental sectin, I didn't have it

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:09 pm: Edit

yahright--> i agree with you for the ones u listed that i remember

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:10 pm: Edit

i remember i put activity. what did u put for one of the RC questions on vocab. financial?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:10 pm: Edit

one about the "boundaries" was something about "the conventional start of life"
AGRRED

"the second know to the first know was more profound"
AGRRED

"the reason children have that agreement is because they are learning the normal way to live (something like that)..."
DONT REMEBER

"and the one after that I put activity"
AGREED

Jason Im starting to think misguided affection may be incorrect now. •••••• question!!

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:10 pm: Edit

tosta2- experimental, and i put that the risk was artistic, not financial...but i'm not sure

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:11 pm: Edit

it was definitely financial for the gamble

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:12 pm: Edit

risk was financail because he was talking about how he would have to write music only recreational inorder to cover finances

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:13 pm: Edit

mattymatt- it might very well be right....ive gotten most right so far, but i am bound to get some crit reading wrong...and that one i had misguided affection until i thought about it for a while (resulting in me not gettin to the last couple questions..oops)..but yea, i see where you're coming from with that answer.

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:13 pm: Edit

Why did they mention "great artists" and "gravedead" (or whatever the name of the band was?

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

i put artistic first but then changed it to financial because the next sentence spoke about money issues..i figured it was an opening sentence..and what kind of a risk is artistic? Its more...like...financial.. and i'm sure someone had to have gotten what 90 months after october is ? june?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

for financial versus artistic, i put artistic because while he would make money if it was successful, that relied on if the song was good-- artistic risk. Also, for financial risk, he'd have to put money into it for it to be a risk...with artistic, he put in his time.

how is it a Risk if its financial? what did he risk?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

lol wait sorry for my poor reason.
risk was financial because he only got paid only after and if the song succeeded

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:14 pm: Edit

It was not financial for the gamble. What were the choices? It was something along the lines of creativity.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:15 pm: Edit

YES, artistic. Agreed.

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:15 pm: Edit

maybe to show their experiences in music?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:16 pm: Edit

kiki1-- first hand/personal experiences (is what i put)

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:16 pm: Edit

whcih happens to be the main point of his whole passage

"Why did they mention "great artists" and "gravedead" (or whatever the name of the band was? "

To show their personal connection to music or watever the answer was

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:17 pm: Edit

I said financial gain...

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:17 pm: Edit

because he said all his work did NOT manifest itself utnill he got paid...all that time working could either turn out lucrative or not lucrative..it wasn't about the quality of his work

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:17 pm: Edit

risk was financial because he only got paid only after and if the song succeeded

you can take it right out the text its definatly financial. The whole point of his passage was not making enough money if the songs dont sell

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:17 pm: Edit

On the whole, I think the last section (napster) was easy. I am just worried about the black women section. How many questions were there for the black women? Does anybody remember?

Thanks

1001001

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:17 pm: Edit

was it something like they have experience as songwriters? i have such a bad memory.

 By Tosta2 (Tosta2) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:18 pm: Edit

overall, do you think u did better on verbal or math? I for one feel that verbal was easier than math. And what are your predictions on curves? Did they give any for the April SAT?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:18 pm: Edit

What was the question for financial? I might have misremembered.

Thanks

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:19 pm: Edit

Black woman passage:

answer to the question on the last paragraph was multiplicity something

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:20 pm: Edit

Yes, multiplicy of the ya ya gumbo, where they would talk about stories together.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:20 pm: Edit

the question was somehting along the lines of why is song writing a gamble

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:20 pm: Edit

the question was somehting along the lines of why is song writing a gamble

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Did anyone get 62 for the hard math question with the blocks?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit

it said "what kind of risk did he take?"

i put artistic....because think about a financial risk:

a risk is 'The variability of returns from an investment. '....what was his investment? for a financial risk, it would be \$\$\$, for an artistic, it would be the songwriting.

i can see the argument the other way and i'll give up after this msg is posted unless someone wants to dig up this msg and back me up

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Ah yes, it was an artistic gamble because he wasn't sure if anybody would sing it.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:22 pm: Edit

was amalgam definitely the answer to that one?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:23 pm: Edit

well 1001-- he wanted financial gain...it wasnt about people singing it---but i still took the RISK as being artistic, not financial

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:24 pm: Edit

Yes, agreed, it was artistic. And by the way, the rule of thumb on definitional questions for the reading is that is NEVER the most obvious answer.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:24 pm: Edit

it wasn't about the quality of his work though..if nobody would sing it that would be a financial gamble. If he spent All that time writing a song and nobody sang it he didn't say anything about a bruised ego...he said he wouldn't make money

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:24 pm: Edit

no its not.
"'The variability of returns from an investment. '....what was his investment"

his investment was the time he dedicated into writing the song he even said some songs take up to 5 years.

He then went on to talk about if the songs arent going to sell he needs to dedicate his time to a more lucrative profession

I am 100% sure its financial, trust me

Not once in the passage did he talk about if he cares whethere or not people like his song from an artistic standpoint

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:25 pm: Edit

amalgam is right.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:26 pm: Edit

i put financial

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:26 pm: Edit

What was the question for amalgam?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:26 pm: Edit

I think it is financial. He is talking about his songs being his bread and butter. If he spends 5 years on a song and it gets no money, he becomes very poor, with no income for that time. Whether or not people sing it doesn't seem to be the issue.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:27 pm: Edit

don't really remember, but it was "...a _________ of something..." and amalgam means mixture. it's right.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:28 pm: Edit

there was a very tricky question in that same passage. It asked somethign along the lines of what was his "fear" for teenage aspiring song writers on line such and such.

If you just read the lines it refers to.. the answer should be his fear was taht song writing will no longer be a lucrative profession or watever.

however if you read down 2 lines you would fell compelled to choice the answer that said music may soon become obselete or something.
I dont htink this is the right answer beacuse it goes beyond the lines references.

Still tricky question

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:29 pm: Edit

I know these were pretty easy analogy questions but I just need to confirm or not if i got them right (I can't remember the answer choices):

1.) pigment: color
2.) distill: water
3.) succession: sequential
4.) astral: stars

Also, does anybody remember specifically what reading passages were in the experimental section, which i'm almost positive was Section 5?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:29 pm: Edit

for black women passage:

the thing that was "sad" was the fact that people focused on differences and though it would bring about disharmony (something like that)

for the "hug" one..I put misguided affection although I'm kind of ambivelant...doesn't "self-serving calculations" have a bad connotation? It wasn't like they were maneuvering..it seemed as if they didn't know what to think about them...therefore they tried kind of uselessly to pull them into their circle -- not sure exactly of what entity they were.

and what was the chemists question? was that the changes that take place with social change?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:30 pm: Edit

the amalgam was DEFINITELY right..it was about Anna Sui..a fashion designer who mixes various styles to create her signature line

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:31 pm: Edit

Can people help on the black women passage? It was probably the most boring out of all of them.

Does anybody remember the questions?

1. What the hug symbolized (I think it was affection)
2. What was the significance of ya ya gumbo, when they told stories. (I think it was multiple invention)

Any more will help

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:32 pm: Edit

"If you just read the lines it refers to.. the answer should be his fear was taht song writing will no longer be a lucrative profession or watever. " -- that's what i put

the answer is financial risk, i give up

astral:stars, was that like liquid:water or something with water?

geoffrey i dont remember pigment: color or succession: sequential

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:33 pm: Edit

"If you just read the lines it refers to.. the answer should be his fear was taht song writing will no longer be a lucrative profession or watever. " -- that's what i put

the answer is financial risk, i give up

astral:stars, was that like liquid:water or something with water?

geoffrey i dont remember pigment: color or succession: sequential

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:33 pm: Edit

Do you mean something multiplicty for the ya ya gumbo?

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:34 pm: Edit

I'm so lost ... what passage was Ya Ya Gumbo in? What was it refering to?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:34 pm: Edit

What did you get for astral : stars.

I narrowed it down to

sun: rays
aquatic: water

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:35 pm: Edit

1001: invention was in one answer, multiplicity in another

i think it was "multiplicity with inclusion"

(sry bout posting the last msg twice)

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:35 pm: Edit

1.) pigment: color
2.) distill: water
3.) succession: sequential
4.) astral: stars

1) seasoning: flavor
2) cocentration: intense
3) anomalous and something else
4) aquatic: ocean

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:36 pm: Edit

i don't remember anything about a hug. what was the question?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:36 pm: Edit

Ya ya gumbo was black women. It was something like inventive multiplicity.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:36 pm: Edit

1001 i put aquatic is to water

its defintely right...they both are linked with the bridge "of or relating to:"

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:37 pm: Edit

astral:stars, was that like liquid:water or something with water?

I think it was aquatic : water

Also, I did not see sequential/succession or pigment/color

 By Kiki1 (Kiki1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:37 pm: Edit

i seriously have no recollection of any question with invention ... what was it about?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:38 pm: Edit

why don't i remember the following analogies at all:

pigment: color
succession: sequential

also, distill: water, what were the other answer choices?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:38 pm: Edit

yep

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:39 pm: Edit

kiki--

A)multiplicty with inclusion
B) somethin invention
blahblah

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:39 pm: Edit

also someone answer what the chemists had to do with the black women passage

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:39 pm: Edit

Jason,
"pigment: color
succession: sequential "

i think they were from the experimental.. id idnt have them either

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:40 pm: Edit

How did everybody think of the verbal section of this test compared to other sittings?

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:40 pm: Edit

i think the chemist whatever was experimental.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:41 pm: Edit

distill: pure --- my bad. ••••, i didnt put concentrate: intense but that makes sense...anyone put anything else?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:42 pm: Edit

"i think the chemist whatever was experimental."

No its from the black woman passage. The answer was something about relating progresion of somethign i dont reely remember

 By Mew246 (Mew246) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:43 pm: Edit

can anyone relate the difficulty of this test to the other ones such as in oct, nov, dec, jan, or april? thanks

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:44 pm: Edit

the chemists question...wasn't it about the factors social change...there was another one that had perspective in it, but that one didn't really fit

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:44 pm: Edit

easier verbal. math was avg.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:45 pm: Edit

CHEMISTS! Yes, that's what i was trying to figure out. The answer was... something like that creativity was a mixture.

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:46 pm: Edit

was the answer to one of the tone questions defiant?

also, on the comparison q about the two parallel lines in space where colmn a was x and b was 2 what was the answer?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:47 pm: Edit

"wasn't it about the factors social change"

yea the chemistry question was somehting like relating the factors of social change or soemthing

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:47 pm: Edit

answer was B, 2 is greater, because there are 0 lines that interesect 1 parallel line that do not intersect the other-- think about it.

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:48 pm: Edit

Does anybody remember the passages that went with the experimental verbal section, which I think was Section 5?

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:48 pm: Edit

Katz: For that question B was the answer because no matter how the parallel lines are aligned, to intersect one it has to go through the other. So it was B

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:49 pm: Edit

but they said it was in a plane, so an infinte amount of lines could intersect one and not the other, right?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:50 pm: Edit

Katz, if any line intersected one line, and continued, it would definately hit all other lines parallel to it. So there were no lines that could only intersect 1.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:50 pm: Edit

if its in ONE plane, then no, 0 lines would interesect one and not the other

through multiple planes, then it would be infinite-- but it said in plane A or somethin

 By Mew246 (Mew246) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:51 pm: Edit

dang i should have taken this one, could have pulled a 1600

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:52 pm: Edit

anyone remember math questions from the last short section?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:52 pm: Edit

How many questions were there for the black women?

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:52 pm: Edit

oh, i see
thanx guys

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:52 pm: Edit

the experimental was art being treasured later on in time, and about an environmentalist

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:53 pm: Edit

yahright-- experimental changes from person to person, so..

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:53 pm: Edit

Jason, I remember some from the last short section.

I got the last one as sqroot(3):1

I got number 8 as x/8 (the container one).

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:53 pm: Edit

im leaving...nice speaking with you people and thank you.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:53 pm: Edit

the last math was square root of 3 to 1...the median problem was 85...

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:54 pm: Edit

thanks andrew and yahright ---> i agree with those answers

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:55 pm: Edit

The plane one is definitly B... 2 is greater than 0. Did any of you guys have a tought math question with blocks, or was that my experimental?

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:55 pm: Edit

For sentence completions did anyone get the answers duplicity, synthesize--divergent, and martyr?

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:58 pm: Edit

haan: i didnt have those q's, so im pretty sure that was the experimental section

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 02:58 pm: Edit

haan: i didnt have those q's, so im pretty sure that was the experimental section

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:00 pm: Edit

Anybody remember the black women questions?

 By Dhun (Dhun) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:05 pm: Edit

im so unlucky...i had three verbal sections in a row where the experimental one was first. I did well on the experimental but i blanked out on the black woman and dream one, F-U-C-K. i wish i had experimental on the math. An hour and 10 minutes of verbal made me lose my concentration

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:05 pm: Edit

for the verbal, was it satirical or quizzical?
I picked satirical but im not sure.

also, was ironic understatement an answer?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:06 pm: Edit

guys this is kind of a stupid quetsion..I thought that the SATS vary by region...so therefore someone from california can be viewing this right now and getting the answers??

 By Jm405 (Jm405) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:07 pm: Edit

if a person works only two days a week and only on sat, mon, tue, wed, thurs, fri, sat (not on sunday), then the probability that he will work on a tuesday is 1/5, right?

 By Kevtwon (Kevtwon) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:10 pm: Edit

It's definately financial. The whole viewpoint of that author was the fact that he made a LIVING off of his music. The thing that napster takes away from the music industry is the monetary value of music, not the artistry value that it holds. That was the whole point of the passage.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:13 pm: Edit

Wait a sec, was this finincail/artistic question the first question after the passage? "The gamble the author mentions in ... is"?

 By Kevtwon (Kevtwon) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:14 pm: Edit

yeah thats it

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:18 pm: Edit

it was financial

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:20 pm: Edit

guys..do the tests vary by region?

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:22 pm: Edit

for the parrallell lines - couldnt the answer be one if their was an overlapping line??

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:26 pm: Edit

How about the #22 on 25 MC Math.

It was about a Set and a Unified Numbers. They ask for k?

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:29 pm: Edit

it was {5 .2 10 .1 and .5 2=k)

 By Nicoleeee (Nicoleeee) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:29 pm: Edit

what was the experimental math, i thought i was section 5...it was harder

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Hed... I think that was experimental...

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:31 pm: Edit

it was experimental, but he wanted an answer :-D

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:33 pm: Edit

wow, did I get lucky. I got a total of 5 math questions wrong so far, and 4 of them were experimental! The other was a self produced!

 By Nicoleeee (Nicoleeee) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:39 pm: Edit

i had the one with blocks...im praying that one was experimental i thought it was harder than the others

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:39 pm: Edit

was urbane an answer to a sentence completion?

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:42 pm: Edit

nicole was it the same section that had the one with the interest problem in it? It was 3000 something.... If so, that WAS your experimental, I had that section also and am 100% sure it was experimental...

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:43 pm: Edit

does anybody remember an analogy with the word "insouciant" in it?

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:47 pm: Edit

Geoff I don't think I had that one...

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:47 pm: Edit

im pretty sure urbane wasnt the answer to that sentence completetion

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:48 pm: Edit

Ummm, Hed, sorry to burst ur bubble.

That section I asked from IS REAL.

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:49 pm: Edit

doesn't matter i got it right, k=2

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:50 pm: Edit

Hed,

The question with urbane:

"and the character left society"

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:50 pm: Edit

how do you know? ••••! Was it the same one that had the interest problem with like 3000 in it?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:51 pm: Edit

Are the experimental questions 3 or 4?

Does that mean that you don't have to answer them?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:52 pm: Edit

Ashwinl, I think an line that went directly on top of the given one would have to be in a different plane.

But it doens't matter, cause it was a QC, and 1 is still less than 2.

 By Dhun (Dhun) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:52 pm: Edit

how do you get the xy = 7 and x-y=5 find something or another question? i got it right my eliminating...but how would u solve it

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

5 times 7 = 35, the expression given was just xy times x-y...

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

it was 7*5 i think

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:56 pm: Edit

Theatre: Entertain?

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm: Edit

anyone remember anything about the clientele:customer. I picked audience:spectator, but it could've also been merchendise:goods or garments: (something) i looked up the words but im still not sure.

 By Katz (Katz) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm: Edit

that was classroom:enlighten...im pretty sure

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 03:59 pm: Edit

Katz- you were right

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:01 pm: Edit

I think it is audience : spectator: lots of customers make up a clientele, while lots of spectators make up an audience. I think the merchendise : goods was meant to throw people (cause it had to do with the store). It sort of works, I guess you could technically say lots of goods could make up merchendise but I don't think it was the best answer.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:03 pm: Edit

What were the other choices on the theatre one?

And Katz:

Clientele is a group of customers (people)
Audience is a group of spectators (people)

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:03 pm: Edit

What were the other choices on the theatre one?

And Katz:

Clientele is a group of customers (people)
Audience is a group of spectators (people)

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:06 pm: Edit

for the theatre one the answer was enlighten:school, but I got that wrong... damn me

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:07 pm: Edit

for the hug question i said it was for their own interest... could be wrong though.

another critical reading question: does "richness" mean sweetness or vitality?

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:07 pm: Edit

Arthur, I said vitality

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Arthur, do you remember the answers to either the theatre:entertainment or the richness?

I can help you out on the richness, but I can't remember the choices.

 By Physicsstud (Physicsstud) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:09 pm: Edit

hey, can someone repost question 22 from the 25 math question section. I'd like to figure it out, I didn't take the test but I saw someone wasn't sure about the answer. So, I'd like to help them out.

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:10 pm: Edit

100, yes, but was the answer urbane? that was a #3 q, i'd hate to get it wrong

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:13 pm: Edit

1001001:

i think the answer to theater:entertainment was classroom:enlighten.

the two choices i narrowed "richness" down to were sweetness and vitality. i put vitality.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:14 pm: Edit

It wasn't urbane, it was seq--- something.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:14 pm: Edit

was the math question that was like:

{5 .2 10 .1 and .5 and k) what is K?

real or experimental?

 By Humburdy (Humburdy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:17 pm: Edit

for theatre::entertain...which verbal section was that on??

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:17 pm: Edit

To Lt56boy ~
>>"it was...Monument:commemorative and thoroughfare:sidewalk or something like that....."<<

Was throrougfare really on the test? That's not on any of my word lists. Is thoroughfare a commonly-known word or what? Also, isn't the word "commemorative" and adjective??? How could sidewalk and commemorative possibly be linked in the question if one is an adjective and the other is a noun? The SAT never does that.

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:18 pm: Edit

Does anyone know the answer to the question about the tone of the black women passage? I think the choices were:
A) confiding
B) ???
C) defiant

I'm not sure if those were the answer choices but whatever choice D was I know that's what I put.
What did anyone else put?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:18 pm: Edit

"i think the answer to theater:entertainment was classroom:enlighten.

the two choices i narrowed "richness" down to were sweetness and vitality. i put vitality. "

Does anyone know if the "richness" question was vitality?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:19 pm: Edit

To Expataznamerica ~
>>"A Memorial Provides a Commemorative
A Throughfare Provides a Sidewalk"<<

See my post to Lt56boy above. What am I missing here?

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:20 pm: Edit

Andrew I also said vitality

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit

To Bart_Simpson22 ~
>>"Okay, I'm not sure if I can remember this correctly but i'll try. The only math question I wasn't sure was I think #11 in the quantative comparison. something like:
6x + 4y = 7; 6x - 5y = 4, (i don't think those are the exact numbers but you get the idea.) which is greater x or 1? I put D, cannot be determined, anyone remember this question and know which answer was right?"<<

If the question DID read 6x + 5y = 4, then I'm pretty sure that x is greater. Do the rest of you concur?...

 By Physicsstud (Physicsstud) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:21 pm: Edit

(5 .2 10 .1 .5 and k)

5 1/5 10 1/10 1/2 2/1

every 2nd term is the reciprical of the term before it. So since .5 is the 5th term, then the 6th term k will have to be its reciprocal. 2 is the reciprical of 1/2. Thanks Monty

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

To Yahright ~
>>"distill:pure was concentrate:intense....is that rigth?"<<

It sounds like a decent answer, but there could have been a better choice. What were the other choices?

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

incog: what you're missing is commemorative is a noun. btw, thoroughfare is a word that pops up on the SAT a lot. it was on the experimental today though.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

"Does anyone know the answer to the question about the tone of the black women passage? I think the choices were:
A) confiding
B) ???
C) defiant

I'm not sure if those were the answer choices but whatever choice D was I know that's what I put.
What did anyone else put? "

For me, it seemed to be admonishing, it didn't seem to be defiant:

Marked by defiance; boldly resisting.

It might have been resisting, but I thought the better answer was admonishing because it was basically saying that black women should have their own identity and it gave reasons why some people thought they shouldn't. I could be wrong though.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

To Montydsw11 ~
>>"dupe: gulibility was wrong... I remember narrowing it down to that and something else..."<<

But a dupe is a person who is easily fooled. They're thus inherently gullible.

 By Physicsstud (Physicsstud) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

Can someone give me question 10 in the 10 question math multiple choice section.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:23 pm: Edit

To Jasontoff ~
>>"astral:stars, was that like liquid:water or something with water?"<<

The word astral means "pertaining to the stars". If aquatic was the real word, then you're correct.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:23 pm: Edit

concentrate:intense was wrong. i do not remember the right answer though.

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:23 pm: Edit

Was one of the choices for richness variety? Because if I remember that question correctly I think that's what I put.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:23 pm: Edit

To all the people on this thread ~

Somebody said that one of the words on the test was "indominable", and that was how they spelled it in their post. Was this really the word, or did they misspell the word "indomitable"? Also, are the words "thoroughfare" and "hubris" commonly-known words, in general?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:25 pm: Edit

What about the question that went something like

q>r>s
q+r = s+t

Column A: q
Column B: t

I put b, wouldn't t have to be greater?

Also, someone mentioned the question:
6x + 4y = 7; 6x - 5y = 4,
I don't remember that at all and I had 4 math sections.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:26 pm: Edit

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:26 pm: Edit

Commemorative is a noun? I didn't know that. Oh well. I never knew that thoroughfare came up a lot. It's not on any of my lists. I'll know it for the future, though.

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:27 pm: Edit

Incognito~

Referring to your post above, that wasnt the question and the answer, the question was "stronghold:fortificaton", i narrowed it down to monument:commemorative and thoroughfare:____ (might've been sidewalk), i think i put thoroughfare to whatever because a monument a sidewalk is used as a thoroughfare (which is traffic going through or what not....Hope this answers your question, and maybe you can help out

(also, this was an experimental question)

 By Lick_My_Beanbag (Lick_My_Beanbag) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:27 pm: Edit

Ya t would have to be greater, I got sequestered for one and I got richness is variety.

What do you guyz think the curve will be.. and how do you do the problem that was like if 1 pizza feeds three people and like a salad feeds six or some •••• like that

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:28 pm: Edit

b is correct (t) Andrew

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:28 pm: Edit

incognito: it was indomitable.

andrew: yes, B is the correct answer. i don't remember that other question either.

danser: yeah, variety might have been the answer to that one. actually i think it was. i think i got the question confused with another one when i mentioned vitality. it is hard to remember all this stuff.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

"Ya t would have to be greater, I got sequestered for one and I got richness is variety."

That sounds farmiliar (for the richness question), but do you remember one that had "vitality?"

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

never heard of thoroughfare but i heard hubris quite a bit in english class

 By Hed (Hed) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

that is so wrong, i remember a 5y and -5y cancelled out so those cannot be the right equations

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:29 pm: Edit

Staunch: water
___ : blaze

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:30 pm: Edit

I believe it was indomitable...
I would think thoroughfare is relatively commonly-known, though maybe hubris isn't. I knew what both of them meant, though.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:30 pm: Edit

I never took this test. I'm just writing this stuff on the basis of what I've heard on this thread. It doesn't sound too bad.

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:31 pm: Edit

Hubris was in my SAT book (and it wasn't a 1000 word one, it only had about 300)...hubris is arrogance...Thoroughfare is not a common SAT word, and i was not sure of it, but using common sense I deducted the meaning

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:31 pm: Edit

can anyone explain why the parallel lines in one plane problem cant be 1 since a line can overlap???

 By Lick_My_Beanbag (Lick_My_Beanbag) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:31 pm: Edit

hmmm i don't remember vitality what was the question...

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:32 pm: Edit

Astral:stars

either

solar:ray
aquatic:water

Which?

 By Lick_My_Beanbag (Lick_My_Beanbag) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:33 pm: Edit

it doesnt matter even if it was one 2>1 so its still b...

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:33 pm: Edit

I remember that hubris was an answer. What was the quesiton?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:34 pm: Edit

aquatic:water would be the answer, 1001001

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:34 pm: Edit

Ashwinl: it does not matter whether they overlap or not, even if it is possible. That would mean one line could intersect. It was a QC, so whether the answer was 0 or 1, both are less than 2.

Column A: number of lines that intersect one but not other

Column B: 2

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:34 pm: Edit

aquatic:water

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:35 pm: Edit

aquatic:water is the answer, if it said solar:sun that would have been correct, but astral is relating to the stars, aquatic is relating to water

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:36 pm: Edit

Ashwinl ~

It's impossible for a line to intersect one of two parallel lines w/o intersecting the other. It can't happen if we're talking about lines. It can, however, happen if we're talking about line segments...

Lt56boy ~

What book do you use?

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:36 pm: Edit

Andrew123s: Thanks, didnt remember what type of question it was

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:37 pm: Edit

I had 2 books, SAT 1600, and the one I got vocab from is actually a book that the SAT Prep teacher at my school made...so I ordered it from her

 By Lick_My_Beanbag (Lick_My_Beanbag) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:37 pm: Edit

yeah can someone tell me which section was experimental and tell me what questions [basic] were in there.. heres my sat
1) 25 MC Math (Real, plus I thought I would have 4 maths after going through this one)
2) 35 MC Verbal (Real)
3) 15/10 Math (Real)
4) 35 MC Verbal (Experimental, this threw me off, plus the uncomfortable feeling of doing 3 verbal sections in a row.)
5) 30 MC Verbal (Real)
6) 13 MC VErbal (Real)
7) 10 MC Math(Real)

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:43 pm: Edit

what was PHILOSOPHY: CONTEMPLATION? I put artist: creation

What was CLIENTELE: CUSTOMER?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:45 pm: Edit

CLIENTELE: CUSTOMER was AUDIENCE:SPECTATOR

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:46 pm: Edit

Jason, yea, I put artist: creation. Clientele:customer is audiance:spectator. I am for sure.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:46 pm: Edit

Quote:
(5 .2 10 .1 .5 and k)

5 1/5 10 1/10 1/2 2/1

every 2nd term is the reciprical of the term before it. So since .5 is the 5th term, then the 6th term k will have to be its reciprocal. 2 is the reciprical of 1/2. Thanks Monty

------Wasn't this an experimental section? Please say it was!

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:49 pm: Edit

Did anybody get hubris? If so, what was the question?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:50 pm: Edit

guys:

the distill: pure one was concentrate:intense it was distilling something makes it pure, and concentrating something makes it mroe intense

the black women passage: there was a question about tone? what did you guys put?

the hug question..have we reached a consensus? was it misguided affection or self-interest? I thought it was the affection one, because they weren't plotting against the women..they just didn't really understand them

philosophy contemplation is indeed artist:creation

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:52 pm: Edit

what were the other choices for the PHILOSOPHY:COMTEMPLATION one?...

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:54 pm: Edit

Lick My Beanbag,

It's nice that you had the same test that I had. Thx for also using my previous post too ;-).

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:54 pm: Edit

Yahright, I concur with artist:creation.

 By Expataznamerica (Expataznamerica) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:55 pm: Edit

Incognito,

Narrowed it down to 2 choices:

Artist : Creation
and something else

I remember picking something else...

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:57 pm: Edit

If i remember right, he analogy was not distill:Pure, it was Distill:Water. I put down D or E for the answer, no clue what it was though. Can anyone confirm whether it was pure or water??

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:57 pm: Edit

Did anybody get, eradicate flourish for a sentence completion?

 By Cs22 (Cs22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:59 pm: Edit

what's the curve? what if you get 1 65, how much does it raise your score?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 04:59 pm: Edit

Ash:

It was water, the bridge I used was distill is to purify water.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:00 pm: Edit

100- yes eradicate to flourish was the malaria sentence

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:01 pm: Edit

I am pretty sure it was Distill:Water...

Also, for whim:capricious, i am pretty sure i had and kept quirk:idiosyncracy, but I might have changed it to choice A, does anyone remember any answer choices for this question...

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:01 pm: Edit

Yahright:

what was the question about the ya ya gumbo?

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:02 pm: Edit

1001: Then how come so many people got Concentrade:Intense cause i think that makes no sense at all if it was distill:Water.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:02 pm: Edit

I am pretty sure that it was quirk:idiosyncracy

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:03 pm: Edit

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:04 pm: Edit

Ash:

I think that was a different question.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:04 pm: Edit

the black women passage ya ya gumbo had something to do with multiplicity and inclusion

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:04 pm: Edit

Lt56boy ~

quirk:idiosyncracy sounds like a very good choice IMO

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:05 pm: Edit

Was the ya ya gumbo question multiplicity inclusion? If so, what was the question.

 By Cs22 (Cs22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:05 pm: Edit

what's the curve about? if you get a 65 on verbal, what does it curve up to? Did they have the curve on the PSAT?

 By Qu1kslvr (Qu1kslvr) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:06 pm: Edit

Montydsw11

(5 .2 10 .1 .5 and k)

2=k was NOT an experimental section because I only had 3 math sections (they all counted) and had that question

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:07 pm: Edit

yes..multiplicity inclusion.

what was the tone of the black women passage?

the chemists had to do with factors presenting a change in society, right?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:07 pm: Edit

CS22:

You can just look at the curves for past tests, they rarely change a lot.

For 65 on the verbal, it's about 700

 By Lick_My_Beanbag (Lick_My_Beanbag) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:07 pm: Edit

Dude, I was just tryin to save some time.. sorry if I pissed you off by using your post..

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:08 pm: Edit

Yahright:

What were the other choices for ya ya gumbo?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:11 pm: Edit

I completely forget..I'm 99.9 sure that it was multiplicity though

 By Humburdy (Humburdy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:14 pm: Edit

i don't get it!!! why is theater::entertain => classroom::enlighten. by nature a classroom does not necessarily enlighten1!!!???

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:21 pm: Edit

To Jm405 and everyone else ~

>>"if a person works only two days a week and only on sat, mon, tue, wed, thurs, fri, sat (not on sunday), then the probability that he will work on a tuesday is 1/5, right?"<<

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:23 pm: Edit

Humburdy ~

A theater is a place that's supposed to serve to entertain people, just as a classroom is a place that's supposed to serve to enlighten ppl

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:25 pm: Edit

ANy supporters for Calculated self interest on one of the reading questions? ANd what was the first reading passage about in the first reading section?

 By Igsboy (Igsboy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:27 pm: Edit

Somebody please list as many analagies and sentence completions as they can so that it would be easy for people to recall and have a better estimate of how they did. (with their answers preferably)

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:29 pm: Edit

"Did anybody get hubris? If so, what was the question?"

That was the answer. The question was a sentence comp about Frankenstein. You needed a word that meant prideful or something (hubris).

Geez I already know of 7 or so CR questions I missed. The one about the animal dreams was hella hard. Also, how do you which was experimental?

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:30 pm: Edit

i got calculated self interest.

hubris was the answer to the last sentence completion on one of the verbal sections.

hey incognito when are you taking the SAT?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:31 pm: Edit

do you ppl remember the question in my 5:21 post above?...

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:32 pm: Edit

Arthur ~

I'm taking it in June.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:37 pm: Edit

good luck incog, i bet you will nail it.

about the 5:21 post, not really sure. didn't have that question i don't think.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:45 pm: Edit

Thanx for the words of encouragement, Arthur. I'm sure you did well on this test

 By Naif5303 (Naif5303) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:48 pm: Edit

Did anyone else start with a math section and had three math sections in a row at one point?

 By Dannie (Dannie) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:52 pm: Edit

a few questions....

ANALOGIES:

1. magazine:periodicle:

dictionary:book or newspaper:article?????

2. scrub: abrasive
? : ?

3. whim: capricious
? : ?
4. bait : entice
keepsake: remind???

5. philosopher:contemplation
artist: creation ?????
6. distill: pure
preserve: intact???

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:53 pm: Edit

Arthur:

Did you take any other SATs? If so what did you get if you don't mind telling?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:54 pm: Edit

guys. was it distill:pure or distill:water? I'm 99.9% sure it was distill:pure and the answer was concentrate:intense

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:58 pm: Edit

Dan:

Bait:entice:: keepsake:remind

Artist:creation

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 05:59 pm: Edit

Yahright:

I am 100% sure that it was distill:water, but either way, I am pretty sure I got that one.

Another thing, what was the question relating to self interest? I think it was the black women reading.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Dictionary:book would be the answer, Dan

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:03 pm: Edit

100 --yes it was black women reading about the metaphorical hug...we're still caught between self-interest and affection..the calculated self-interest seemed a little too extreme for me.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:03 pm: Edit

100 --yes it was black women reading about the metaphorical hug...we're still caught between self-interest and affection..the calculated self-interest seemed a little too extreme for me.

 By Sherlock1 (Sherlock1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:07 pm: Edit

please post more analogies and their answers...i know we havent covered them all. Some that i havent seen discussed are lottery::chance. i put debate::topic but it might be tournament::victory...what do you all think?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:08 pm: Edit

damn! I put dictionary: book

It was distill:pure. I put preserve:intact

WHIM:CAPRICIOUS::QUIRK:IDIOSYNCRATIC
philosopher:contemplation::artist:creation

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:09 pm: Edit

Jason, Dictionary:book is right. I'm pretty sure that the other stuff you posted is correct too.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Yahright:

Have you taken other SATs? If so, what did you get?

 By Dannie (Dannie) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:11 pm: Edit

okay still continue to help me out with those analogies alogn with a few more questions:

for the farming sentence question was the answer imprudent...denuded?

was the angle XDY??

was infinitesimal an andswer?>

whats the dishonest quality from the reading? was it minimizing something?

what did the word "business" mean in the passage?
activity?

was the factor P of n+3 and n+10 7????

 By Naif5303 (Naif5303) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:12 pm: Edit

I did the tournament:victory one;
for the distill:pure one I got consentrate:intensify

 By Qu1kslvr (Qu1kslvr) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:12 pm: Edit

lottery::chance

i put tournament::skill(i think skill was the second word?)

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:12 pm: Edit

sherlock: that question was one of the tougher ones imo. i initially considered debate:topic but ended up putting tournament:victory, which i think is right.

100: i took the april test and got a 1400, which was a royal screwup for me. i am usually in the 1450-1550 range on practice tests. i am pretty sure i nailed this one though, i feel relieved.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:12 pm: Edit

Were there any better choices for the LOTTERY:CHANCE:: analogy?...

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:13 pm: Edit

100-- i've taken practice exams..usually I verbal mide 7's to 8. jason--dictionary:book was the answer...you're positive that it was distill:pure?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Everybody:

Do you think the verbal was easier than the verbal on past tests?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Dan, the factor would be 7. Correct. According to previous posts, denuded is the correct answer.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:14 pm: Edit

for the farming sentence question was the answer imprudent...denuded?

---yep

was the angle XDY??

---yep

was infinitesimal an andswer?>

---yep

whats the dishonest quality from the reading? was it minimizing something?

---not sure, don't know what you're talking about

what did the word "business" mean in the passage?
activity?

was the factor P of n+3 and n+10 7????

---yep

 By Naif5303 (Naif5303) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:15 pm: Edit

hmm.. did anyone else use the Priceton SAT guide?? I found some of the exact questions from the pre-tests in it on today's test.. strange...

 By Qu1kslvr (Qu1kslvr) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:16 pm: Edit

Dannie ---

i remember infinitesimal as an answer, something like..bacteria is so infinitesimal it can fit in the period at the end of the sentence.

for the word business i was vacillating (SAT word!) between responsiblity and the choice below it what ever that was.. i ended up choosing responsibility

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:16 pm: Edit

it was the business of life.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:17 pm: Edit

it was the business of life.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:18 pm: Edit

"Everybody:

Do you think the verbal was easier than the verbal on past tests?"

yes, my thoughts exactly. this is great for me too because i have trouble breaking 750 on verbal (i am stronger in math). not this time though.

 By Naif5303 (Naif5303) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Was that business one in the neurology one?

 By Qu1kslvr (Qu1kslvr) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:20 pm: Edit

last question of 25 MC math...

x-y=5 xy=7 question

i put 35, is that right??

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:20 pm: Edit

naf:

yes

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:21 pm: Edit

35 is right.

 By Qu1kslvr (Qu1kslvr) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:22 pm: Edit

last question on gridins; for those of you who didnt take the test...Carrie and Ann start out with their backs to each other. They each take 10 steps forward. Carrie then takes 17 steps in the other direction and reaches Ann. How much longer is Carries stride than ann's

i put 2.7 but i wasnt really sure

 By Naif5303 (Naif5303) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:24 pm: Edit

yeah, I put 2.7 too.

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:25 pm: Edit

Does anyone remeber what they put for whim:capricious ? or does anyone remember what the answer choices were?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:27 pm: Edit

lottery::chance
choices:

tournament:skill
debate:topic
jury:verdict

I put jury:verdict (got that wrong according to everyone here)

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:34 pm: Edit

To Qu1kslvr ~

Are you sure you phrased that question correctly? Because if so, then I don't see why each one of Carrie's steps would not be 0.43 steps longer than each one of Ann's steps. What am I missing here? For each one of Ann's 10 steps, there would be a total of 7 steps for Carrie...

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:37 pm: Edit

The math question about the two girls walking away from each other and then one toward eachother was 10/7 I think. Here's why:

Carrie and Ann walk away from each other 10 steps. Let x be the size of Carrie's step and y be the size of Ann's. Then, Carrie walks back 17 steps and reaches Ann. We can conclude that the total distance between Carrie and Ann BEFORE Carrie walks back is equal to 17 of Carrie's steps when the meet each other. Therefore:

10x+10y = 17x

Subtract 10x from the left and right sides, you are left with:

10y = 7x

You want to solve for x/y (to get how many times x was of y). So:

7x
-- = 1
10y

Multiply each side by 10 and divide each side by 7, and you are left with:

x
-- == 10/7.
y

You can plug that back into the original equation and it should work.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:40 pm: Edit

Andrew ~

That's what I'm saying. But each one of Carrie's steps would be a total of 0.43 longer than each one of Ann's, becuase 10/7 = 1.43. I basically just did 7x = 10, and found x. (I didn't take the test, BTW. I'm just saying what I did here).

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:42 pm: Edit

To Incognito:

Yes, you're right about the steps. I think the question about though was worded like, "how many TIMES longer was Carrie's step than Ann's?" so i put 10/7. is that what you put?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:43 pm: Edit

Oh my god! I got 10/7 but in decimal form and I bubbled in 1.24 instead of 1.42. Someone shoot me now!!

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:44 pm: Edit

I didn't take the test, but if the question did indeed say times, then 10/7 or 1.43 would be correct.

 By Sayaka (Sayaka) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:45 pm: Edit

on the math section someone please tell me if this problem was for the experimental section or not. This was the last problem on the section. A pentagon was inscribed in the square and we were supposed to find x that was on the diagram.

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:52 pm: Edit

Whim:Capricious was definitely Quirk:Idiosyncracy.
The outcome of a lottery is determined by chance, just as the outcome of a tournament is determined by skill.
A bait is used to entice, while a keepsake is used to remind.
To stanch is to stop a flow, and to extinguish is to stop a blaze.
A magazine is a type of periodical, just as a dictionary is a type of book.
The role of a philosopher is contemplation. The role of an artist is creation.
To distill is to make more pure, to concentrate is to make more intense.
A clientele is a group of customers. An audience is a group of spectators.
The purpose of a theater is to entertain, while the purpose of a classroom is to enlighten.

 By Redchord (Redchord) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:53 pm: Edit

What was the answer to the math question with the family and all the men were over six feet tall? None of those answers seemed right to me.

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:55 pm: Edit

I know it's a little early to project but does anybody have any ideas on what the scaling is going to be like for today's SAT? Right now, I'm predicting a 55 or 56 for myself for a math raw score so i hope the scaling is really generous this year.

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:55 pm: Edit

If you're a man in the family, then you're over six feet tall. Therefore, if you're less than six feet tall, then you're not a member of the family. choice A

 By Igsboy (Igsboy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Does anybody remember if they got something like a,c,b for the first three quantative comparisons or something like that?

 By Sherlock1 (Sherlock1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 06:58 pm: Edit

for the theater to entertain one i put circus::enjoy but everyone else seem to think classroom::enlighten. MY bridge was a theater is a performance that provides enteraintment while a circus is a performance that provides emjoyment. A classroom doesnt necessarily provide enlightenent. What do you think?

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:00 pm: Edit

sherlock, it was theater:entertain, not theater:entertainment. A theater is made to entertain, a circus isnt made to enjoy. a classroom is made to enlighten is way better

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Sherlock1 ~

The function of a theater is to entertain people, just as the function of a classroom is to enlighten people.

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:02 pm: Edit

I am still doubtful on concentrate:Intense because that is not a real relationship at all.
you distill something to keep it pure, you preserve something to keep it intact.
Concentrate is to focus, not make more intense.

 By Turbofan15 (Turbofan15) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:03 pm: Edit

Well, I guess a circus doesn't necessarily provide enjoyment either. I put the classroom: enlighten.

 By Maximum182 (Maximum182) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:05 pm: Edit

Igsboy-

I remember my quantitative comparison answers clearly and those answers are completely wrong. I think you might be finished on the test if you had those kind of answers.

No dice...

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:06 pm: Edit

To distill is to make pure, not keep pure. Plus, to make intense is definitely part of the definition of concentrate. concentrate

\Con*cen"trate\ 2. To increase the strength and diminish the bulk of, as of a liquid or an ore; to intensify

To distill is to make pure, to concentrate is to make intense. You dont distill water to keep it pure, you do it to make it pure.

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:07 pm: Edit

HEY GUYS CAN ANYBODY COMPLILE ALL THE SENTENCE COMPLETION, ANALOGY, and CRITICAL READING ANSWERS? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANKS A LOT

 By Sayaka (Sayaka) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:19 pm: Edit

what about the ones with colors and background color ones? that was probability problem

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:25 pm: Edit

On the dream passage, what was the statement that would most directly contradict the author's central purpose? I put that dreams contain completely random things or something like that.

 By Chrisl (Chrisl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:27 pm: Edit

Was indomitable an answer? If so, what was the question on that?
What was the answer to the sentence completion about the woman overcoming all odds?
Was the tone defiant or admonishing?

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:35 pm: Edit

the answere to richness was definitely variety, because the sentence following it talked about how many species of plants and animals there were on the earth.
The tone was admonishing, which means that the advice was intended to correct or lightly scold, and that fit the situation.
I dont remember resentment:admonishing, and does anyone know the answer to the woman overcoming all odds one?

 By Number9 (Number9) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:45 pm: Edit

lottery::chance
choices:

tournament:skill
debate:topic
jury:verdict

This is how i read it:
Winning a lottery relies on chance, when winning a tournament relies on skill.

 By Number9 (Number9) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:48 pm: Edit

There was one question that hasnt been mentioned yet...

It went something like this...
About a whale diving 4,700 feet..
Whas it confirmed speculations or substantiated doubts?

I put substatiated because it was scientific evidence that backed up the idea...

Anyone?

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:54 pm: Edit

It was confirmed speculations, because before the evidence of the deep whale dive, it was speculated that it dove that deep. Substantiated doubts doesn't make sense because if they doubted it before, the evidence didn't back up the doubt, but rather refute it. To substantiate a doubt would be to prove that the doubt was correct, which would mean that the whale was not a deep diver, which is incorrect.

 By Jm405 (Jm405) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 07:55 pm: Edit

oops. mental lapse. let me fix that: if a person works only two days a week and can only work on sat's, mon's, tue's, wed's, thursday's, and friday's, (not on sunday's), then the probability that he will work on a tuesday is 1/5, right?"<< should have re-read before sending.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:04 pm: Edit

There was a SPR math question no one has mentioned yet...

2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x=2^7, solve for X. I got 4.67 just using the solve function on my TI-89...

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:06 pm: Edit

It was 5, Monty, sorry.

 By Satman04 (Satman04) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:07 pm: Edit

when is the earliest we can get our SAT scores?

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:10 pm: Edit

I think in about 12 days for a \$13 fee.

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:10 pm: Edit

2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x= 2^7

4 * 2^x = 2^7

2^2 * 2^x = 2^7

2^(2+x) = 2^7 (because x^y * x^z = x^(y+z))

2+x =7

x=5

 By Chrisl (Chrisl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:11 pm: Edit

Again, does anyone remember either the analogy with resentment:indictment (or some variation of it), or the sentence completion regarding a woman who overcame great odds?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:13 pm: Edit

"2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x=2^7, solve for X. I got 4.67 just using the solve function on my TI-89..."

I used the solve function of my 89 too but I got 5. You must have typed something wrong on accident.

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:13 pm: Edit

"2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x+2^x=2^7, solve for X. I got 4.67 just using the solve function on my TI-89..."

I used the solve function of my 89 too but I got 5. You must have typed something wrong on accident.

 By Satman04 (Satman04) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:21 pm: Edit

for the lottery: chance analogy, I put debate: topic

Here's why:

You CAN'T have a lottery without chance just like you CAN'T have a debate without a topic (meaning if don't have chance, then by definition whatever you have is not a lottery)

but you CAN have a tournament without having skill...

anyone agree with me on this?

 By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:22 pm: Edit

uh no...

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:39 pm: Edit

Lottery is a game of chance
Tournament is a game of skill.

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:44 pm: Edit

The computer problem was experimental but I'm pretty sure the answer was 120. Since the two colors can't be the same you would do 8 background colors * 15 foreground colors = 120 combinations

 By Dhun (Dhun) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:54 pm: Edit

people are saying that the answer to distill:purify is concentrate: instense but think about it

to distill is to make something purified
just like to preserve is to make something intact

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:54 pm: Edit

Did the analogy "resentment:indictment" really show up on the exam, or was that dude BSing?...

 By Dhun (Dhun) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 08:59 pm: Edit

1001001: a tournament doesn't have to be a game of skill, every hear of a bingo tournament

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:02 pm: Edit

Dhun, I don't think that the CB will take exceptions like than in mind. tournament:skill sounds like a better choice than the other posted. As for the analogy, if you distill something, it becomes pure, just as if you concentrate something, it becomse intense. But if you preserve something, it does not "become" intact, but rather it stays intact. The condiction of the thing itself doesn't change.

Did that resentment:indictment analogy really show up, though?....

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:07 pm: Edit

I also put preserve-intact

Doesn't really make sense to me as concentrate would me more of focusing, not making something more intense. Bad question IMHO.

It seemed I got the rest correct, except for the

whim:capricious (I had sad-irreconcilable) or something like that. I thought the verbal was particurally tough, hopefully the curve will be lowered to maybe three or four wrong for 800.

And the answer was definitely Tournament and Skill

My last SAT, sophomore year, June of last year, was 760V 730M

I'm hoping for a 1600. I'm almost sure of a 1600 in math as I maybe missed 1 problem. Hoping for 800 in verbal too, but could have gotten anywhere from 750-800 depending on luck. Wanted to be first kid in school to ever get a 1600. Maybe I did, can't wait for the results, I felt really good about the test.

And yes! Hubris, lol, I did learn something in sophomore english, and I'm pretty sure I guessed amalgam as its the only one that sounded right. Obviously I'm not the best at verbal, I like the math but make dumb mistakes.

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:09 pm: Edit

What were all the choices for the bait:entice analogy and which passage had the answer of admonishing/defiant?

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:14 pm: Edit

Well, bait:entice was definitely keepsake:remind

And that was the black women passage, and I believe the answer was defiant. As well with that passage I had self-interest.

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:18 pm: Edit

"Doesn't really make sense to me as concentrate would me more of focusing, not making something more intense. Bad q

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:24 pm: Edit

Never Mind (EDIT)

 By Ace1 (Ace1) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:27 pm: Edit

that makes perfect sense jason, you moron, maybe you just dont have the skills that are needed on the SAT. Expect another score in the 1100's

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:35 pm: Edit

there was a question on the dreams..it was like "what does dried up mean in context" -- was it lacking vitality?

what did you guys put for your answers in the dream one?
was life an activity?

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:38 pm: Edit

I put lacking vitality, as just saying what goes on in your everyday life just plain sucks, but dreams and such have interesting things

I also put life as an activity, I don't remember why, but I was pretty sure of it.

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:40 pm: Edit

Anybody remember the choices for the bait:entice analogy?

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:42 pm: Edit

baseballtwin -- what were some of your other answers for the dreams passage? also, what were some of your answers for the black women passage? I'm still determining whether or not it was "calculated self-interest" or "mis-guided affection"

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:43 pm: Edit

And, what did you guys get for the one about the Dust bowl and farmers for sentence completion?

I got conscientious / despoiled

 By Humburdy (Humburdy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:43 pm: Edit

"And that was the black women passage, and I believe the answer was defiant"

I thought it was admonishing. It was correcting the previous perspective

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:44 pm: Edit

what were the choices for the tone in the black women passage? it was defiant, admonishing, confiding...what was the last one?

 By Humburdy (Humburdy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:51 pm: Edit

ebullient and somber

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:51 pm: Edit

I am almost positive it was calculated self-interest, although I narrowed it down between those two. I chose it because the affection wasn't really misguided, it was tactful so that the women would be associated with these groups, but weren't really included as they weren't supposed to be defferent. Well, it was calculated and it was done for self-interest, probbably politcally to show they were united with these women. At least thats my round-about logic for choosing it.

Lets see, for the dreams passage:

The statement most likely to prove the author was wrong was the choice that was dreams are completely random and don'r relate to life. I can't remember other questions, you'll have to actually give me the question

I can't remember specifics for the other black women passage either although I think I did well on both. Hopefully the curve won't be so harsh.

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:52 pm: Edit

with the physician/neurology passage was it a case study leading to a scientific hypothesis or a personal account leading to a general observation...it was one of those two in the first verbal section

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:54 pm: Edit

"that makes perfect sense jason, you moron"

In case you didn't notice, I was quoting the guy above me. None of those words were mine.

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:58 pm: Edit

But she was more than correcting, she seemed pretty pissed IMHO.

How dare you treat the black women's culture like this, were important. Were not just women and were not just black, were black women.

I'm hopeing that was the experimental section, or maybe the one with idiosyncratic and whim analogies. Just throw out the one I got most wrong please.

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:01 pm: Edit

Personal account leasing to a general observation.

He was telling that little story about his arm, then broke off into th whole nuerological bullcrap. I really hope that was experimental.

 By Mindy_2004 (Mindy_2004) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:01 pm: Edit

HI... can anyone tell me how you figured out the xy=7, x-y=5, therefore, x^2y-xy^2=? I know the answer is 35, but how did you figure that?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:03 pm: Edit

Ace1 ~

STFU you little punk. You likely wont even break a thousand. I don't see you contributing much here. And yes, Jason was quoting a different person. Both Jason and the other poster were right when they said that it was a bad question. Although I do believe that the answer was concentrate:intense, I still think that the question was awkward. You suck at analogies, but are you good at sent comps? Here's one for your feeble mind to work on: Why don't you shut your ****ing mouth and stay off the forums if you have nothing constructive to say you piece of ____?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:07 pm: Edit

"HI... can anyone tell me how you figured out the xy=7, x-y=5, therefore, x^2y-xy^2=? I know the answer is 35, but how did you figure that?"

X^2y-xy^2 can be simplified to xy(x-y). You are given what xy equals (7) and you are given what x-y equals (5), so 7*5 is 35.

 By Humburdy (Humburdy) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:07 pm: Edit

was she pissed? she seemed quite calm. there was no need to be angry because no one was really arguing with her.

but then, my reasons are often quite different from the sat test makers intend. if only they let you explain yourself.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:08 pm: Edit

"Personal account leasing to a general observation.

He was telling that little story about his arm, then broke off into th whole nuerological bullcrap. I really hope that was experimental."

You got the same answer I did. That wasn't experimental, because I had an experimental math, and still had that section.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:13 pm: Edit

for the dreams the first know was more PROFOUND than the second know right?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:14 pm: Edit

Andrew ~

was the question like this:

1). X^2y-xy^2 (may also be written as: X2Y - XY2)

or was it like this:

2). X2Y - XY2????

It sounds like the 2nd choice based on what you ppl are saying here....

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:15 pm: Edit

Well, this is how I did it, I know that these x and y values get 35, although your equation doesn't look right

XY = 7
X-Y = 5
X = 7/Y
X = 5+Y
5+Y = 7/Y
Y^2 + 5Y = 7
Y^2 + 5Y - 7 = 0
Y = 1.14
X = 6.14

plus in those numbers for the correct equation and you get 35

 By Mindy_2004 (Mindy_2004) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:16 pm: Edit

I'm going to sound really stupid (this is in response to Andrew 123s post) but how can you simplify that down? Maybe I'm just dead form taking the SATs... but I don't see where that breaks down to that.

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:23 pm: Edit

The actual equation to solve was (X^2)*Y - X*(Y^2)

Pluggin in you get 35

And, yes, I did get more Profound

Damn, wasn't experimental, well, I hope that the curve is shifted, although I've only gotten two or three wrong so far.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:23 pm: Edit

Mindy_2004 ~

See my 10:14 pm post.

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:26 pm: Edit

Agreed Humburdy, I always think that they be too specific in these tests as people can intepret the same passage many different ways, you are probably perefectly right as I had no idea what admonishing meant :D. Still, its a tossup, shes sort of defiant about not being included, but admonishing makes sense too.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:26 pm: Edit

To Ace1 ~

See my 10:03 pm post!

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:30 pm: Edit

"Andrew ~

was the question like this:

1). X^2y-xy^2 (may also be written as: X2Y - XY2)

or was it lik this:

2). X2Y - XY2????

It sounds like the 2nd choice based on what you ppl are saying here.... "

It was number 2.

"I'm going to sound really stupid (this is in response to Andrew 123s post) but how can you simplify that down? Maybe I'm just dead form taking the SATs... but I don't see where that breaks down to that."

You have X^2*y - x*y^2. You can factor out xy. When you take xy out of the variables on the left of the - sign, you get x. When you take xy out of the variables on the right of the minus sigh, you get y. Therefore, you get xy(x-y). I didn't get it either on the actual test, I only found out afterwards. Thats why it was the last question (it was pretty hard compared to others for me at least).

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:31 pm: Edit

Hey incog,

why didn't you sign up for the april and may SAT I?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:34 pm: Edit

To Everyone:

Did you think that this test was easy on the whole, both math and verbal? Math is my strong suit, so I don't worry about that. It is verbal that I need to improve. Based on what I can tell from the practice tests, this test had easier vocabulary, but an average reading selection.

 By Number9 (Number9) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

"people are saying that the answer to distill:purify is concentrate: instense but think about it"

When something is concentrated, its flavor becomes more intense, just as when something is distilled it becomes more pure.

 By Haan (Haan) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

Can anyone post up all the answers to the analogies?

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:36 pm: Edit

Look at my post at 10:15, makes most sense IMHO

Same thing my brother did, using graphing

He's a twin, we get the same test and argue about which questions are right. I usually score higher though LOL.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:38 pm: Edit

"When something is concentrated, its flavor becomes more intense, just as when something is distilled it becomes more pure."

Thats the difference though: When something is concentrated, its flavor becomes more intense. When something is distilled, you lose the flavor.
But now that I see that preserve:intact didn't really work, I don't know what the right answer is.

 By Number9 (Number9) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:39 pm: Edit

"To Everyone:

Did you think that this test was easy on the whole, both math and verbal? Math is my strong suit, so I don't worry about that. It is verbal that I need to improve. Based on what I can tell from the practice tests, this test had easier vocabulary, but an average reading selection."

I'll tell you this: I studied PR's Vocabulary cassettes of 250 most common SAT words. During my times taking practice tests in 10 REAL, almost all of these words showed up.

This test: Not a single on showed up.

Verbal is my strong suit, so I naturally found it easier than the math.

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:40 pm: Edit

I agree with the entirety of that post Andrew123s

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:43 pm: Edit

EXACTLY, I studied so much vocabular from barrons and PR, but NONE of them showed up!!!

Where were the:

perniciouses, fastidiouses, virulences?!@?!

NOT EVEN A evanscent!

Everybody: What was your experience like concerning the vocabulary?

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:46 pm: Edit

I thought math was easy, slightly difficult in some portions.

The verbal was difficult in some portion easier in others

I'm thinking 800 math and 750+ Verbal. Which would be really nice . Too bad its not instantaneous grading. One would think that we give the CB enough \$ already, they could at least give them back as soon as they grade our particular test.

 By Yahright (Yahright) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:47 pm: Edit

I need answers to the dream and black women
the chemists in the black women selection signified what?

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:48 pm: Edit

Andrew ~

Not only that, but when you distill something, you change it's condition. The same thing happens when you concentrate something. It does NOT happen when you preserve something, so I agree that concentrate:intense is the right answer.

To Jason ~
I didn't take the April or May test because, to be completely honest, I'm too afraid to. I don't know if I can emotionally cope w/it, so I keep on putting it off. And don't worry about Ace1, we'll **** him up if need be...

 By Jm405 (Jm405) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:50 pm: Edit

did anyone have the following math questions: find the area of a triangle given that its three vertices are (1,0) (0,0) (1/n, n) with the stipulation that 1/n is btwn 1/5 and 1/4; or a question dealing with a bunch of mathematical statements like p triangle m = m; p square m = p ect.?

 By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:52 pm: Edit

These threads produce and extend like generations of fertile rabbits (or bacteria)

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:58 pm: Edit

Jm405, yes I got that section, kicked some butt on it as well.

The one was that it had to be between 1/4 and 1/5.

Then:

N = 4 or 5

.5*4*1 = 2
.5*5*1 = 2.5

So it was the answer between 2 & 2.5. I forget which one it was exactly, but I know it has to be between those two.

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:58 pm: Edit

"Did you think that this test was easy on the whole, both math and verbal?"

Math - yes except for 3-4 questions
verbal - hard as hell. missed at least 3 analogies, 3 sentence comps, and 9-10 critical readings

"And don't worry about Ace1, we'll **** him up if need be..."

haha

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:01 pm: Edit

It can theoretically be any number between 2 and 2.5 if I understand the question correctly...

 By Baseballtwin86 (Baseballtwin86) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:04 pm: Edit

Yes, it was a multiple choice, so only one of the choices was between 2 and 2.5 . I forgot which one that was now, but I know I got it right :D.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:16 pm: Edit

What was the answer to the quant comp that had .6r in it. I said B, and am pretty sure it is right...

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:17 pm: Edit

what was the question, exactly?...

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:18 pm: Edit

Yeah, if I remember correctly, it said something like:
r > 0

Column A: R reduced by 60 percent of R
Column B: .6r

And in that case, it would be B as far as I know.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:19 pm: Edit

I can't remember incognito, sorry, all I remember was the .6R, and being confused as hell by the wording... hopefully someone else will help us out here...

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:21 pm: Edit

Yes, I think that was it... Thank GOD I got that right... so far I have missed 3 math, and have always gotten 800 on practice tests... God DAMNIT did I •••• up on this test.... •••• ME

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:22 pm: Edit

yea .6r is right, the quantities with 60% off of R or 60% of R less then R, or .6r. 60% less would be 40% or .4r, so .6r is correct.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:22 pm: Edit

Which three math did you miss? Just curious, I want to know if I missed any but don't remember all the questions. I left 2 blank.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:26 pm: Edit

I missed the grid in that was 71 (I said 65 assuming the integers had to be diffrent), the grid in that was 5 (I used the solve function on my TI 89, and entered in 5 2^xs, not 4... grrr) And I also missed the problem that had K in it. I think I just got lost in the wording, I said answer choice E, which I think was 20. Totally incorrect. For all I know, I missed a bunch of others too... Damn I am pissed...

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:27 pm: Edit

For those who had Verbal experimental, want to clue me in on which one it was and give a few of the harder analogies/passage on it? i have no clue but i had a passage on electricity and environment which not many other seemed to have.
Thanks

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:32 pm: Edit

Montydsw11, I used the solve function on my ti-89 too. I always enter in the entire equation as written. What I forgot was on number 25, where xy=7 and x-y=5, I forgot that xy is considered its own variable name! It would have worked if I did x*y=7, but since I did xy = 7 it basically just repeated the problem cause of the error, so I left it blank. O well, hopefully that will remind me not to do that again in the future.

I also left blank the problem 2 problems before it, does anyone know how to solve that? I only had 10 seconds to look at it, cause time was up. It gave 2 angles and asked for y+x.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:33 pm: Edit

Ashwinl, I had no passage on electricity or the environment (and others I know didn't either), so I think that was the experimental.

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:37 pm: Edit

it was a triangle with a top angle of 65. X and Y with supplementaries of the other 2 angles of the triangle. X + Y + those 2 angles = 360 since its just 2 pairs of supplementary angles. since one angle of the triangle is 65, u know that the other 2 must = 115, so X+Y+115=360, X+Y = 245. HAd some trouble with this too but had time to come back and spent some quality minutes on it.

 By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:38 pm: Edit

andrews I think it was like 245 or something

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:54 pm: Edit

And the last SPR was 10/7 right?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:54 pm: Edit

oops double post

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:59 pm: Edit

yes, it was 10/7. Did the analogy resent:indictment show up on the exam, out of curiosity?...

 By Number9 (Number9) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:07 am: Edit

So when do we get the results?

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:07 am: Edit

(x^2)(y)-(y^2)(x)=35 because:
You factor it so u have: (xy)(x-y), and they give you xy and (x-y) equal 7 and 5
Thuslyfore: (7)(5)=35

-i dont think it is artist:creation. i think it is juror:testimony because a philosopher bases judgment using contemplation, and juror bases judgment on testimony. Contemplation isnt the product of philosopher, as creation is the product of an artist.

-distill:pure is probably concentrate:intense because if u think about concentrate as "intensifying" (adding more solutes or what hav you) then it works. (I put sorrow:inconsolable which is wrong probably)

-are u sure its dictionary:book? i thought periodical could mean like a passage in the magazine, so i put newspaper:article. (im prob wrong)

-what were the other choices of staunch:flow besides extinguish:blaze (this choice sounded too "unrelated" to me, but i guess it could be right, i just want to remember what i put down)

-10/7 right?

-72 degrees of pentagon?

-for the one where u have three and four points on parallel lines, did u get 12? because the problem stated clearly that the line must contain EXACTLY TWO POINTS right?

-ROOT3:1? (accordig to post, seems like it)

-i vote for calculated self-interest: both men and feminists wanted them to be on their side, for their own personal interests. misguided affection, to me, sounded like it meant that they ACTUALLY had affection for her, which they DONT.

do you guys remember any of the math ones that could have had trick traps and such? it seems like i got all of them right but i KNOW i missed a few easy ones due to those evil tricks ETS plays on us.

PLEASE post all analogies that you can think of (there shouldnt b that many anyway) and ESPECIALLY the answer choices (yes, all of them). i would appreciate it, thanks.

how many do u think u can miss math for 800. two or three?
verbal? like 3 or 4 maybe?
man I'm hoping for something along lines of 800m and 700v i just really want to break 1500. 15 is such a round number, so much better than 14...

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:09 am: Edit

Uh oh, I just realized I might have misread the container question. Does anyone know what the question was? It said something like 16 containers of some amount each = 8 containers of another amount. Did it ask what was the amount in the larger container? Or did it ask what was the amount in the larger container compared to the amount in the smaller container?

 By Hed (Hed) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:12 am: Edit

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:14 am: Edit

I didnt have it and i had the verbal exp, which leads me to believe that it didnt show up or there were multiple verbal exps.

 By Katz (Katz) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:16 am: Edit

the answer was 8/s or something like that

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:16 am: Edit

To Peanuts ~

>>"-i dont think it is artist:creation. i think it is juror:testimony because a philosopher bases judgment using contemplation, and juror bases judgment on testimony. Contemplation isnt the product of philosopher, as creation is the product of an artist.">"-are u sure its dictionary:book? i thought periodical could mean like a passage in the magazine, so i put newspaper:article. (im prob wrong)"<<

DICTIONARY:BOOK is the answer, because a periodical is not necessarily an article. It's an entire magazine or something. Reader's Digest would be an example of a periodical. The rest of your answers look ok (I dont know about the CR, though)...

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:18 am: Edit

no it was 16 containers =x gallons, and 8 containers=x gallons. i plugged in 16 for x, which means for the larger containers (8 of them) each container holds 2 gallons. then, plugging x into the answer choices, x/8 gives 2 gallons.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:18 am: Edit

To Peanuts ~

>>"-i dont think it is artist:creation. i think it is juror:testimony because a philosopher bases judgment using contemplation, and juror bases judgment on testimony. Contemplation isnt the product of philosopher, as creation is the product of an artist."<<

ARTIST:CREATION sounded extremely awkward IMO also. Were there any better choices than this one and the testimony one?...

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:18 am: Edit

I thought it was 8/x but it seemed so easy because I got the answer in like half a second so I though there were some mathematical formulas or something (it was second to last so it was supposed to be hard) that I forgot so I left it blank. ARRRGGHH!!!

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:21 am: Edit

Was it just me, or were there no hard math questions on this SAT? None required any intricate thinking...and the only one that i even stumbled over for a second was the one with cube, and it asked for the smallest angle...but i figured that one out....

You know what this probably means, horrible Math curve, so if i make a stupid mistake or 2 again...i'm screwed

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:22 am: Edit

x/8 would be the answer if it asked how much does the large container hold... but did it ask that? or did it ask how much the large container held in comparison to the small container?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:27 am: Edit

No it just asked how much the large container held.

"Was it just me, or were there no hard math questions on this SAT?"

I found the one with the parallelogram with the 5 equal sides a hard one. Either way, careless errors bring my score down to the low 700's every time.

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:27 am: Edit

yes, im pretty sure it asks the capacity of one large container. also, DANG i put hubris, then erased it and put valor. just goes to show the difficulty of not knowing the vocab (i studied barrons flashcards and they really helped, i saw many words in test).

other than juror-testimony, and artist-creation, impretty sure the others were ridiculous because if i dont remember the other choices i probably ruled them out (for being stupid)

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:30 am: Edit

the pentagon one was 72 right? cause it has 540 degrees? (pattern goes 3vertices=180 degrees, 4 vertices=360, 5vertices=540, so on)?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:31 am: Edit

With the one with the parallelogram with 5 equal sides, u needed to see that there were 2 equilaterial triangles. Once you saw that, you could split them up into two 30/60/90 triangles and get the height as root(3). Therefore, the long diagonal was 2 heights was 2root(3) and the short one was just 2 (given in problem), so 2root(3):2 = root(3):1.

I thought there were some hard problems... I figured out the spacial reasoning one (the smallest angle) but I thought it was pretty hard. I also thought the x-y=5 and xy=7 was hard (at least different). The factoring was a little challenging cause it was all variables. I also thought the one where Carrie and Ann walk away from each other and then Carrie walks back was pretty hard.

 By Ace1 (Ace1) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:33 am: Edit

there is your moronic side of your brain taking over again you idiot. dont count on getting 3-4 wrong math... more like 6-7 wrong which is around a 640-650 math on this test jason and at least 14 CR, 3 sent and 3 anal wrong is 20 wrong total( which you probably will get since you cant even estimate properly) which is around a 570-590 verbal. The highest possible score you can get is a 1210 jason you moron.

BTW incognito, you are the biggest loser on the face of this planet. Dont try to make it sound like it is a goal of yours to get the 1600 b/c its absolutely OC disorder. You are a psychopath who lurks around these message boards 10 hours a day, 70 hours a week and in your spare time, does practice tests OVER AND OVER AND OVER again until you get perfect and finally convince yourself that you can get a 1600 which you will definitely not get. You are underestimating how hard it is to get it and usually the people (653 a year) that do get the 1600's have the innate knowledge to just master the SAT w/o any prep. You will NOT get that 1600, mark my words you fukin waste of life.

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:33 am: Edit

the gallons problem said 16 large containers combined hold X gallons, 8 other containers hold X gallons as well, how much do larger containers hold each. x/8 was answer, i messed up and though the large containers were the larger ones so i put x/16. Knew that was too easy for a 2nd to last question but didnt catch the mistake in review.

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:33 am: Edit

the gallons problem said 16 large containers combined hold X gallons, 8 other containers hold X gallons as well, how much do larger containers hold each. x/8 was answer, i messed up and though the large containers were the larger ones so i put x/16. Knew that was too easy for a 2nd to last question but didnt catch the mistake in review.

 By Mindy_2004 (Mindy_2004) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:36 am: Edit

I am dying now waiting for the scores!! Does anybody know the exact date we can get them? I know you can pay like \$13 and call and get them but when is that? This wait is KILLING me!!

 By Ashwinl (Ashwinl) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:37 am: Edit

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:39 am: Edit

Mindy, they say 14 days after, which would be the 17th. However, they occasionally can be viewed one or two days early. I know, I can't stand the wait either.

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:41 am: Edit

yeah, i REALLY want my scores now too.

it feels great to actually want my scores. after the april test i was almost dreading getting my scores.

how f*cking awesome would it be to be one of the 600-700 people in the world to get a 1600? i know the possibilities for me are small, but hey, i think it's possible based on what i've read here and how i felt after the test.

i will probably have at least 1550 anyway, which is more than fine with me...

 By Number9 (Number9) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:51 am: Edit

I dont want to see my scores, but being the cat, curiosity will kill me.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:58 am: Edit

Remember, colleges seem to like to brag about how many 1600s they reject, so if u get a 1590 it isn't all that bad cause you won't become another statistic like the one above.

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:01 am: Edit

hey wasnt there a question like triangle 2 times triangle 5 times triangle 3? (triangle meaning the function that they give u). wasnt it like 2 times 5 times 9? cause in a previous post, i saw someone write (2x5x9)^2. i dont think it was squared, at least i HOPE IT WASNT SQUARED, AHHHHHHH. this stupid math curve is so ridiculous. serious changes need to made.

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:03 am: Edit

Whim: Capricious

 By Jasontoff (Jasontoff) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:04 am: Edit

the other choice was quirk: idiosyncratic

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:07 am: Edit

no, j-off ur thinking of sorrow:inconsolable right? cause thats what i put. i dont know, the quirk one just sounded a little funny to me. but the more i think abou tit, the more i think it s not the sorrow-inconsolable one.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:08 am: Edit

Whim, according to dictionary.com:

A sudden or capricious idea; a fancy.

Quirk, according to dictionary.com:

A peculiarity of behavior; an idiosyncrasy

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:12 am: Edit

Peanuts, it was triangle 4 * triangle 3 * triangle 25, all squared.

If perfect square, triangle something = sqrt(someting).

If not a perfect square, triangle something = something squared.

Triangle 4 would be 2 because 4 is a perfect square.

Triangle 3 would be 9 because 3 is not a perfect square.

Triangle 25 would be 5 because 25 is a perfect square.

Therefore, you have (2*9*5)^2 = 8100.

I totally agree, they should change the math curve so a few careless errors won't affect your score as much as it does.

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:17 am: Edit

was the triangle function one a grid in (i think it was)? man, i cant remember if i did this one right or not...
i dont even remember seeing the "squared" part of the equation. but im pretty sure i didnt grid in 90 (without the square), but im also pretty sure i didnt grid in 8100...

i just remember using my calculator, punching in 2, 9, and some other stuff. man i hope i remembered that evil exponent...

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:19 am: Edit

Yes, it was a grid-in.

 By Tweaks (Tweaks) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:49 am: Edit

This is funny; the test was administered *today* where I live and there's already 600+ posts.

Just like to insert a comment to all of you not to beat yourselves up too much if you missed one; just hope for the best, but be ready for less than that.

 By Misterbobbit (Misterbobbit) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:19 am: Edit

can anyone explain to me the quantitative comparison with the two sets containing {1,2,3,4,5,6}...

Asking whether picking 5 or picking 2 numbers whose sum is 7?

I got that the sum is 7 is greater because 8(1\6 * 1\6) > 1/6 (picking 5).. but people are saying C...equal

 By Katz (Katz) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:27 am: Edit

its c because the 1st one was 1/6, and the second was 6/36 which is also 1/6...and the second one u get by addiding all the possibilities: basically 6 * (1/6)*(1/6)

 By Keyboardgunk (Keyboardgunk) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:36 am: Edit

so what did everyone think about today's SATs?!?!?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:38 am: Edit

Damn!! I thought it was 1/36 so I marked A.

"Whim: Capricious "

 By Flippanda328 (Flippanda328) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:57 am: Edit

Does anyone know what the experimental verbal section was and if any of these analogies were in it?

stronghold:fortification :: thoroughfare: sidewalk
CLIENTELE: CUSTOMER :: AUDIENCE:SPECTATOR
Whim:Capricious :: Quirk:Idiosyncracy
distill : pure :: concentrate :intense

My test:
1. Verbal
2. Math
3. Math (QC & grid-in)
4. Verbal
5. Verbal
6. Math
7. Verbal

 By Flippanda328 (Flippanda328) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:05 am: Edit

I'm sure i had a verbal experimental, but i didn't have the environmentalist passage. I had a passage in section 5 about letterwriting of famous authors. I guess that was my experimental.

Damnit i was hoping those analogies were experimental too.

 By Chrisq (Chrisq) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 03:25 am: Edit

Well, just to add to the utter melee that is this whopping thread... I didn't take this test, but I did score perfect on the April one... Some people have commented that very little of the hard(ish) vocab appearing on today's test is contained in the hallowed high-frequency word lists, etc. Maybe CB is wisening up and shying from these words, which so many student memorize by rote. I'll admit, I reviewed the Barron's 3500 list before the April exam, because I figured it couldn't hurt to learn some new words, but it still amazes to think that the CB could saturate its tests so often with the difficult words among these lists. I might be the devil's advocate here, but wouldn't verbal scores correlate more highly with true verbal ability (gained through an exposure to a variety of texts over a long period of time, etc.) if CB shunned the stereotypical "SAT words?"

And to answer a question earlier on this thread from Incognito: Hubris is a fairly common word, especially as used in the negative sense of being excessively proud. Thoroughfare is much a less common word, though, and 'commemorative' as a noun is uncommon, but it is a great illustration of the CB tactic of using words in their secondary part of speech.

 By Coolcollegekid (Coolcollegekid) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:03 am: Edit

people, tell me when, exactly, i can get my scores from this test. i definitely didnt get 1600, although am very, very keen to take it again in october.

 By Haan (Haan) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 07:04 am: Edit

Analogies:

Theater:entertain = Classroom:enlighten
Distill:pure = concentrate:intense
Stanch:flow = extinguish:blaze
Bait:entice = keepsake:remind
Whim:capricous = quirk:idiosyncratic
philosopher:contemplation = artist:creation
magazine:periodical = dictionary:book
astral:stars = aquatic:water
islands:archipelago = stars:constellation
clientelle:customer = audience:spectator
lottery:chance = tournament:skill
boor:rudeness = dupe:gullibility

anything else you guys remember? And which sections were definitely experimental or not? Thanks

 By Peterkang (Peterkang) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 07:34 am: Edit

Do you guys remember any questions from the Critical Reading Passages.

For the napster passages why did both authors put words in quotes?

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:24 am: Edit

Penuts:

A philospher does contemplation.
An artist does creation.

By definition, an artist is a creator of art and a philospher is a thinker (contemplator).

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:31 am: Edit

Andrew:

I have to agree with you. Colleges like to brag about how many valedictorians and people with 1600s they reject, so being a bit lower than elite is pretty good for an elite college.

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:33 am: Edit

Was stronghold:fortification on the real test, or the eval? I don't remember it, but then again, it's hard to remember all 78 questions.

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 09:45 am: Edit

Can anybody remember which of the following analogies were in the experimental verbal section, if you had one:

Theater:entertain = Classroom:enlighten
Distill:pure = concentrate:intense
Stanch:flow = extinguish:blaze
Bait:entice = keepsake:remind
Whim:capricous = quirk:idiosyncratic
Pigment:color = seasoning:flavor
philosopher:contemplation = artist:creation
magazine:periodical = dictionary:book
astral:stars = aquatic:water
islands:archipelago = stars:constellation
clientelle:customer = audience:spectator
lottery:chance = tournament:skill
boor:rudeness = dupe:gullibility
succession: sequential = (Can’t remember what I got)
lottery: chance = tournament:skill
insouciant: ?????? (Just remember insouciant from analogy)= ??????

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:15 am: Edit

Which of the following reading passages were in the experimental verbal section (Most likely Section 5), if you had one:

1.) The neurology passage with the brain adapting to physical disabilities like that
2.) The African-American women passage (I'm almost positive that wasn't experimental)
3.) The passage about the environmentalist
4.) The passage about how things that are old automatically become antiques

Also, here are a few Critical Reading questions i wanna see if i got right:

1.) In the brain passage, why did the guy say that he had to use his left hand even though he was strongly right-handed?
2.) In the African-American women passage, what was she doing? Was she admonishing? That's what I put.
3.) There was a question with the African-American women passage that was like "What is the author doing in lines 2-10" or something like that. Anybody remember the question?
4.) I can't remember which passage this went with but there was a question in which i got the answer down to either quizzical or satirical. does anybody know which passage it went with and the question?
5.) In the dreams passage, there was a question about a "boundary line" or something like that? Anybody remember the question and what they put?
6.) In the dreams passage, was it the business of living or the activity of living?

 By Misterbobbit (Misterbobbit) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:26 am: Edit

Katz -

Explain to me how you get 6 (1/6) (1/6).

I have 8 (1/6) (1/6).

You can choose 1 and then 6
2 and then 5
3 and then 4
4 and then 3
And then double the amt of those choices because you can choose the same choices just starting from the other set = 8 total choices = 8 {1/6} (1/6) which is > than 1/6 (picking 5).

 By Misterbobbit (Misterbobbit) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:31 am: Edit

Nevermind. I see how it's 6 possibilites - my friend explained it to me.

 By Finalnight (Finalnight) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:32 am: Edit

only had one word I didnt know (and I dont vocab cram), INSOUCIANT, damn that word. It cost me an analogy point. lol

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:45 am: Edit

What exactly was the last QC that everybody is talking about? I do remember it was like 2 sets of numbers and it was something like picking numbers so their sum is 7, but i don't remember the exact question. What was it?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:52 am: Edit

It was:

Set A= {1,2,3,4,5,6}
Set B= {1,2,3,4,5,6}

One number is chosen at random from Set A, then one from Set B

A. The probability that the number chosen from Set A is 5.
B. The probability that the numbers chosen from Set A and Set B add to 6

 By Haan (Haan) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:55 am: Edit

Pigment:color, succession: sequential , and insouciant:something were experimental - Geoff

The brain guy said he was strongly right handed to show the things he had to overcome

 By Haan (Haan) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:01 am: Edit

DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE CHOICES FOR THE BAIT:ENTICE QUESTION? CUZ I FELT LIKE ANOTHER ANSWER WAS PRETTY GOOD THERE.

 By Geoffroy681985 (Geoffroy681985) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:04 am: Edit

Does anybody remember any of the other quantitative comparisons?

 By Drago9034 (Drago9034) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:04 am: Edit

Bait:Entice is definitely keepsake:remind. the first noun (bait, keepsake) is used to do the action of the second verb (entice, remind). dont remember other choices though

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:11 am: Edit

"It was:

Set A= {1,2,3,4,5,6}
Set B= {1,2,3,4,5,6}

One number is chosen at random from Set A, then one from Set B

A. The probability that the number chosen from Set A is 5.
B. The probability that the numbers chosen from Set A and Set B add to 6"

I think it was the probability that the numbers chosen from Sat A and Set B add up to 7. In that case, for Column A, there is only one choice out of set A that makes it true, so that is 1/6.

For Column B, there are 6 possibilities that make it true:
1+6
2+5
3+4
4+3
5+2
6+1

out of a possible 36 sums. Therefore, you have 1/6 and 6/36, which are equal.

 By Coolcollegekid (Coolcollegekid) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:22 am: Edit

people, i beg of you to assess my score. please try to be accurate. okay, so let's say i left one out in every section (maybe 2 in a single section max), i got i think 3 analogy wrong, and maybe 3 critical reading wrong, and no sentence completion. now, to the math, i think i left out, in total, probably 4 and got 5 wrong. my score? any chance for a 1400 on this thing? i feel so pissed off at myself cause i could have scored so much higher on the math

 By 1001001 (1001001) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:48 am: Edit

Cool Col kid:

You can compare your score with past curves, just search the net.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:26 pm: Edit

To Ace1 ~

You're such a sick little loser it's not even funny. Why the hell are you even here, anyway? All you do is bash people out of your own delicate insecurities. You're NOT better than Jason, so stop trying to sacrifice ethics for your need to funnel your insecurity on an internet forum. Why did you even enter this forum in the first place? You're a loser w/o a cause. As for the 1600, I'm sure I won't get it. But I certainly don't need a 1600 to know that I'll always be ten levels above you.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:28 pm: Edit

To Chrisq ~

Thanx for responding to my question in your 03:25 am post above. I appreciate it. (And congratulations on your 1600).

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:52 pm: Edit

look, its not 1/6:6/36. the chances of picking 5 out of the six numbers? 1/6. then, in the second column, listen carefully ill explain it to u slowly...you pick one number at RANDOM-it doesnt matter which number u have, you have one number from the first set. so, there is no probability involved with picking a number at RANDOM. THEN, once you have that number, you go to the second set. for any number u pick in the first set (regardless of which number), you will only have 1 number in the second set that will add up to 7 for you. so the second column is also 1/6. I know 6/36 is equal to 1/6, but there is none of that double probability stuff involved that you guys seem to be doing. there is no probability involved with your RANDOM choice because it doesnt matter what you get the first time.

 By Wallyjo (Wallyjo) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:55 pm: Edit

hey everyone.. how was the SAT this morning?

 By Wallyjo (Wallyjo) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:56 pm: Edit

im a freshman now.. so i will be taking the NEW SAT coming out in 2005.. has anyone heard about it?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:59 pm: Edit

"look, its not 1/6:6/36. the chances of picking 5 out of the six numbers? 1/6. then, in the second column, listen carefully ill explain it to u slowly...you pick one number at RANDOM-it doesnt matter which number u have, you have one number from the first set. so, there is no probability involved with picking a number at RANDOM. THEN, once you have that number, you go to the second set. for any number u pick in the first set (regardless of which number), you will only have 1 number in the second set that will add up to 7 for you. so the second column is also 1/6. I know 6/36 is equal to 1/6, but there is none of that double probability stuff involved that you guys seem to be doing. there is no probability involved with your RANDOM choice because it doesnt matter what you get the first time."

But the answer would still be C no matter how you interpret the question, right?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:12 pm: Edit

"im a freshman now.. so i will be taking the NEW SAT coming out in 2005.. has anyone heard about it? "

http://www.collegeboard.com/newsat

 By Number9 (Number9) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:14 pm: Edit

Wallyjo, you can take it this June or next year, if you want to avoid the NEW SAT. Im a soph. this year and took it yesterday.

Also...
Bait:Entice is definitely keepsake:remind.

The purpose of bait is to entice, and the purpose of a keepsake is to remind.

Quite simple...that should be the end of that discussion!!

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:18 pm: Edit

Anyone remember cataclysmic being an answer to a sentence completion? It involved something about a room being left for 3 years or so and becoming a disaster....i put cataclysmic as that means disasterous or so, but am not 100% sure if there was a better answer, i was unsure about some of the other meanings (i'm also not sure if this was experimental or not, can;t remember)

 By Peanuts (Peanuts) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:27 pm: Edit

go to my other thread, this ones getting to big

 By Chronofx (Chronofx) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit

Could somebody refresh my memory?

There was a question with 4 lines and 4 angles among the lines given. It was not drawn to scale.

The lines were two pairs of parallel lines (although not drawn that way the problem stated that they were), and each pair intersected the other pair.

Within the diagram there were 4 angles formed by these lines: A, B, C (I'm not sure about these) - I believe that you can figure out by properties of parallel lines and vertical angles that A = B = C. The problem also told you that Y = A + B + C.

From the diagram, it was also possible to tell that Y and C (not sure which was the 2nd angle) were supplementary.

So, my question is, can anybody tell me what the question was? What the answer choices were? What the actual answer was? If it was experimental?

 By Peterkang (Peterkang) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:17 pm: Edit

For the neurologist passage does anyone remember the last questions: "what is the authors main point in the passage." One of the choices was "to shows the infinite capablities of the brain" or something like that. Was that the answer? Because the author never said that the brain has INFINITE possbilities.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:20 pm: Edit

It said something like "virtually infinite."

 By Peterkang (Peterkang) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:32 pm: Edit

are u sure about that Andrew123s?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:52 pm: Edit

I'm not saying the passage said virtually infinite. I'm saying that one of the answer choices did.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 07:50 pm: Edit

Peterkang, are you saying that you think even infinite qualified by the word virtually in the answer choice is too extreme?

 By Haan (Haan) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:20 pm: Edit

Does anybody remember getting four straight B's in the quantitative comparisons?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:22 pm: Edit

I do not remember getting 4 straight Bs (or any other letter 4 times in any of the sections). I didn't think it was possible. Is it?

 By Haan (Haan) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 08:50 pm: Edit

I definitely remember getting a string of B's in the quantitative comparisions - if its the right answer i guess anything can happen

 By Keyboardgunk (Keyboardgunk) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:32 am: Edit

Is the one about the plane and two parallel lines..it was something about how many times it intersected..what was the answer?

 By Keyboardgunk (Keyboardgunk) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:32 am: Edit

Is the one about the plane and two parallel lines..it was something about how many times it intersected..what was the answer?

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:47 am: Edit

If you are talking about the QC question that said there were two parallel lines in one plane, and Column A was "the number of lines that can intersect one line but not the other" and Column B was "2", the answer was B.

 By Keyboardgunk (Keyboardgunk) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:54 am: Edit

hmm...was that a QC? I thought it was a multiple choice question..o well..good thing because i put down B = 2..hooray!!!

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:57 am: Edit

Why wouldnt it be infinity?

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 01:58 am: Edit

"hmm...was that a QC? I thought it was a multiple choice question"

There was a multiple choice question very similar to it.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 02:00 am: Edit

A line extends forever in both directions. Therefore, if one line intersects the first parallel line at one point, it would keep going down (and up) forever, and inevitably hit the other parallel line. So, there are no lines that will hit one but not the other.

 By Jason817 (Jason817) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 02:14 am: Edit

I think I interpreted it wrong. I imagined a 3-D plane so I pictured diagonal lines going through one point and not the other (which is possible). Did it have to be 2-D?

 By Misterbobbit (Misterbobbit) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:19 am: Edit

There is no such thing as a 3-D plane. Think of a plane as a sheet of paper that extends forever. A plane is 2-D.

This "3-D plane" you're thinking of is space. If we were in space, it would be infinity.

 By Woody_Billford (Woody_Billford) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:33 am: Edit

No, there was a question that said you have a line, "l," with the points A B and C on it. There is a coplanar line parallel to "l" with points D E F and G on it. How many lines be drawn in the same plane that intersect only two of the seven points.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:51 am: Edit

Woody, that was another question. I got 12 for that one.

 By Woody_Billford (Woody_Billford) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 03:59 pm: Edit

yeah, that's what I meant. They were two separate questions. I just meant that I thought Keyboard was talking about this one, not that QC.

 By Bceltics (Bceltics) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Does anyone know what the math experimental was? Does anyone know any of the other Anaologys or sentance completion? Was one of the choices with adverse? the one with distill: pure is preserve: intact?

 By Bceltics (Bceltics) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 05:16 pm: Edit

What do you think will be the raw score to get a 600 or better on each?

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 05:27 pm: Edit

bc:

i'd say about 43-44/60 on math, 54-55/78 on verbal.

 By Haan (Haan) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Hi all can anybody post up all of the quantitative comparisons plEASE! Thanx and which section was the experimental section after narrowing it all down?

 By Haan (Haan) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:15 pm: Edit

Another analogy:

Caricature:drawing = melodrama:emotion or farce:play?

 By Peterkang (Peterkang) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:24 pm: Edit

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:38 pm: Edit

I think I put facade: building, but the more I think about it, farce:play makes sense

Caricture is an exagerated picture usually created for a comic effect

Farce is a play that is funny and usually exagerates actions

But wasn't Farce:play the stem words in one of them?

 By Dave323 (Dave323) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:49 pm: Edit

These are the answers to the QC's that I remember, can't think of the other seven offhand.

Half girls, y boys- y & x/2, C
Parallel lines- number of lines that pass only one & 2, B
r reduced by 60% & 0.6r, B
Two x angles and one y- x+y & 100, D
Random numbers from sets- chance of getting 5 in one & chance of 7 in 2, C
4x+6y=7 and 3x-6y=3 (or something)- x & 1, A
q>r>s, q+r=s+t- q & t, B
2 is 3 more than x- x & -2, x (forgot order)

 By Keyboardgunk (Keyboardgunk) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:02 pm: Edit

Now im really confused! Everyone is talking about the 4 staright Bs they got and I can't remember if i did or not. Can someone refresh my memory? Thanks!

 By Mew246 (Mew246) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:16 pm: Edit

Holy @#\$% 700 posts for the May SAT I, it seems lots of people took it!

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:33 pm: Edit

carciture is a funny depicted drawing(like the ones u get at theme parks) just as a farce is a comically derivited play.

so carciture:painting :: farce:play

defintatly correct

a facade is the face of a building btw.. makes no sense

 By Haan (Haan) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:41 pm: Edit

guys: for the caricature:drawing analogy

first of all it is definitely not facade:building - facade is the front of the building

After checking the definitions of both words it could either be farce:play or melodrama:emotion

Both make perfect sense...anybody to shed some light on this?

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:43 pm: Edit

I have a question regarding the curve... I am postivie it is developed a year prior to the current exam however here is my question:

Some people say the may 2003 curve comes from the april 2002 testers which seems illogical to me. Others say the may 2003 curve comes from the may 2002 testers. I am hoping on the latter since the general scoring average is most likely lower for may due to the overwhelming number of juniors who take the exam, thus low scores will help make the curve more friendly.

What do you guys think?

 By Haan (Haan) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:44 pm: Edit

guys: for the caricature:drawing analogy

first of all it is definitely not facade:building - facade is the front of the building

After checking the definitions of both words it could either be farce:play or melodrama:emotion

Both make perfect sense...anybody to shed some light on this?

 By Haan (Haan) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 07:47 pm: Edit

THanx DAve : Can anybody else post up the rest of the quantitative comparsions? THANK YOu

 By Soilbean (Soilbean) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 08:22 pm: Edit

nobody's mentioned this problem before...i'm just making sure it was experimental because i completely crapped out on that whole section...

it's a math question, here's how it went:

there's a fair spinner that has an equal chance of landing on 1, 2, 3, or 4.
there's a gameboard and a game piece. whatever # you land on in the spinner, is however many spaces you move on the gameboard. what is the probability of landing on F (the spaces were labeled A-K) if you spin the spinner twice?

somebody please confirm that this question was experimental! thanks

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 08:29 pm: Edit

caricature:drawing::melodrama:emotion

i am pretty sure this is the right answer. the bridge is "caricature is an exaggerating drawing," so "melodrama is exaggerated emotion."

soilbean: i am pretty sure that was experimental, i don't think i had that question.

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 08:40 pm: Edit

Soilbean, I do not remember that question, even though I had 4 math sections. Is it possible there were multiple experimental maths?

 By Lt56boy (Lt56boy) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:04 pm: Edit

Arthur...for Caricature:Drawing::Melodrama:Emotion
I am pretty sure it would be farce:play..a caricature is an exaggerated (or mocking) drawing...use the same sentence for the other..a melodrama is an exaggerate emotion...

I think farce:play would work much better...

just my two cents

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:07 pm: Edit

"i am pretty sure this is the right answer. the bridge is "caricature is an exaggerating drawing," so "melodrama is exaggerated emotion."

Andrew this was a very tough question but u are incorret.

A carciture is a humorous picture of an exagerated character
A farce is a humorous play with exagerated characters.

Key point is character.

Melodrama describes exagereated emotions, not characters nore humor thus it is not the best choice

 By Arthur (Arthur) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:24 pm: Edit

matt:

i guess you're right. damn, i didn't even know farce meant that.

 By Soilbean (Soilbean) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:29 pm: Edit

andrew--

yeah i think CB does give multiple experimental maths. people were talking about a block problem, and this problem :

>>"if a person works only two days a week and only on sat, mon, tue, wed, thurs, fri, sat (not on sunday), then the probability that he will work on a tuesday is 1/5, right"<<

i definitely don't remember coming across those two, even though i had four maths. i am SO glad the math that i messed up on was experimental. i was wearing my lucky bracelet, THAT'S why

i hope everyone did well! can't wait to see my results

 By Andrew123s (Andrew123s) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:30 pm: Edit

Yea, I probably put facade:building for whatever reason I don't remember, but I see now how farce:play makes sense.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:14 pm: Edit

>>"Some people say the may 2003 curve comes from the april 2002 testers which seems illogical to me. Others say the may 2003 curve comes from the may 2002 testers. I am hoping on the latter since the general scoring average is most likely lower for may due to the overwhelming number of juniors who take the exam, thus low scores will help make the curve more friendly.

What do you guys think?"<<

Matt, from what I hear, the college board constructs exams on the basis of previous experimental tests from different months. I've always been told (by other students and a one guy at our school who works for a test prep company over the summer) that there's more than one month that may set the curve for a single test. The CB could just set the curve based on several experimental sections from several months. Don't forget, however, that I don't have an extremely credible source here, so don't take my word for it. I'd call up the CB to find out for sure.

 By Mattymatt (Mattymatt) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:54 pm: Edit

CB would never give you an answer.. prep companies have been trying to figure it out for years.
While it may very well be true that it is a collection of various months.. then how do they determine the difficulty of the curve? If they are basing the curve on their own disgression i think this is apalling.

Wouldn't the most logical scenerio be that they measure the curve based on how the students from the same month a year earlier performed. Or go back 2 years if you have to and take expermentals only from may if there is not enough.

Differnet genres of students take the test at different times. The calibur of students taking an october test is obviously far greater than say a may or june exam. Why should a may curve(first sat for many) be based on the performance of a senior who already took the test 3 times by october.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 11:08 pm: Edit

Hmmm...I'm not too sure. But according to the CB, after extensive prep (by books or tutors), the average score increase is only 15 points for math, and 20 for verbal (I'm pretty sure that these are the right numbers, but I could be off just a little). So, if that's their contention, then it may mean that the caliber of students really doesn't differ from month to month. I always thought that the caliber would remain almost the same. Basically, my theory (although it's not based on much) has always been this: they find a very hard question in an experimental section that only 5% of the test takers got correct (maybe the cause of the difficulty was a very hard vocab word or some crap like that). Then, they incorporate that vocab word in a future test (in any month, regardless of the original exam) with the expectation that only about 5% of the ppl will get it correct again. In theory, they could determine a curve like that. It doesn't have to apply to analogies only, though. There may be a certain math shortcut, or perhaps a unique style of writing in a CR passage that many had trouble with. In a future exam, they could use a different passage by the same author (and thus have a similar writing style), and design the curve on the basis of what percent of the people could understand that author in the past. The month may not matter. I know it's a little simplistic, but it's just a possible theory.

 By Confetti (Confetti) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 11:32 pm: Edit

but is a caricature *always* comedic?

 By Dave323 (Dave323) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 12:53 pm: Edit

I had a verbal section with a passage about group psychology. That was an experimental section, right?

Oh, and I got farce:play for that question, too.

 By Studiousvegetar (Studiousvegetar) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 03:05 pm: Edit

Does anyone know when the scores will be posted for free on the collegeboard's website?

 By Danser39 (Danser39) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 06:08 pm: Edit

If they construct the curve based on experimental sections from the previous year's tests, and you take the test for more than one year (for instance, as a sophomore, and junior, and a senior), then couldn't you conceivably get a test made from an experimental section you'd had before? It seems to me that they would wait for at least four years before using experimental sections, to make sure that everyone was out of high school. Then the curves would be based on students from four or five years ago. Just a thought.

 By Incognito (Incognito) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 06:23 pm: Edit

I doubt that they use the exact same questions, though. They would (i think) ask very similar questions. But knowing the uber-security of the CB, I don't think they'd ever ask the same question twice. But yes, the curve may be determined w/data produced years ago. So my older brother set my test curve.

 By Mgcsinc (Mgcsinc) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Is everyone certain that the points-on-parellel-lines one said EXACTLY two points intersected? I can't remember whether I ended up answering 12 or 14~