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I'm a senior in high school now, and I'm seriously reevaluating this question---I've got no real desire to go into a 4 year uni or even a CC at that. I've worked hard and I've got the stats---but I don't care.

I don't care about going to college and getting a stupid engineering degree. I don't care about raising a family and kids or whatever. I don't care about being a productive member of society and providing services for the betterment of mankind. I don't care about making my parents happy and proud of themselves when they see ME do good in school. I just don't care anymore.

All I seriously want to do is play video games, eat, sleep, and **** people in various holes. If all I had was a decent comp, a bunch of gaming systems, an apartment, and a girlfriend who had the same interests, I would be more than happy. I wouldn't even need the girlfriend--porn is good enough.

I've realized that I'm lazy and I don't want to work anymore. Although I get enough of it in high school, college will be much more work, and then a real professional job would mean even more work. It's an escalating progress of work, which I don't want to do. Seriously Play>>>>Work.

Yea, don't respond with something stupid like "then don't go to college ****face" . Remember, intelligence is a good thing, this IS CC.

By Joev (Joev) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:43 am: Edit

I feel the same way sometimes dude. You feel like your running in place half the time. Take a couple years off: drink beer, play video games. You are only young once. You will know if you are ready for school or not. I sure as hell wasnt at 18. I took 5 years off, and now I am graduating at 27. Enjoy your young years. You can still go to the college parties without going to college.

By Jl87d (Jl87d) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 05:22 am: Edit

Seek professional help is my advice.

"All I seriously want to do is play video games, eat, sleep, and **** people in various holes." How will doing these things pay for - "a decent comp, a bunch of gaming systems, an apartment, and a girlfriend who had the same interests."

Seriously dude, how will doing these things pay the rent for the apartment, buy the gaming systems, buy the computer, and pay the electric the gaming systems and computer use to run? O' yeah, and as I recall girls aren't cheap either. How are you going to pay to live???????

Work does not have to be fun. If work were fun it wouldn't be called work; it would be called happy fun time, and they wouldn't pay you for it. The reason many people work is not, because they like what they do at work, it's because they like to use the money they get from work to do the things they like.(with heavy sarcasm) Like eat a couple meals a day, live in doors and wear clothing.

If you don't want to go to college that's fine, no skin off my back, but you need to do something besides "play video games, eat, sleep, and **** people in various holes." in order to earn a living. And last time I checked, the things you listed don't pay that well(-$).

By Welshie (Welshie) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 11:43 am: Edit

It's good to see someone that has confidence in his abilities enough to not contribute to society. If intelligence is a good thing, then use it. There is no semblance of intelligence in saying you want to lead a life of waste and slothfulness without having a way to pay for it.

By Soaring (Soaring) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit

gap/interim years out, time off? I'm planning to do that somehow. You can also backpack rtw, but that'll require some live-in work, apprenticing, interning or volunteering.

By Pinkheart (Pinkheart) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 03:25 pm: Edit

maybe you should take time off. perhaps you are just frustrated/lost right now. then you could clear your mind/reflect with the time off..

i mean you can't play video forever right.

By Sepia (Sepia) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 03:56 pm: Edit

You don't want to go to college? Then don't.

You are soon to be a legal adult, if not already. As long as you are supporting yourself and not using up tax dollars, feel free to lead your life the way you see fit.

Seriously, if all you need to be content in life is to have an apartment, a pc, and games, by all means go take orders at Burger King and live it up.

Maybe you are serious. Probably not. In any case, if you were seeking a more positive, moral-boosting response, you won't get it from me...people like you are a lost cause.

By the way, is "jaded" the new fall fashion accessory?

By Takiusproteus (Takiusproteus) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:03 pm: Edit

Separate from civilization. Live in the woods. Eat what you grow and hunt.

By Kiwee (Kiwee) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:11 pm: Edit

You can't really have a decent computer, the internet, and "a bunch of" expensive gaming systems without a job. A job where you make real money. You can't have that without a good education these days. I agree with earlier posts, take some time off to evaluate what you want to do, and then go and learn about something you are interested in. You like video games? So go into graphic design and learn how to make them. Find out a way to get paid for what you see as slacking off.

By Newnudad (Newnudad) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:33 pm: Edit

Thoureau came back from his Pond - so can you.

To paraphrase: "I went to the woods because I wished to play video games,live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, get extra memory, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. or been unable to pick up new life..."

By Averagemathgeek (Averagemathgeek) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 05:52 pm: Edit

Have you considered if the activities you mentioned would keep you content for the rest of your life? At first, you might think "of course they will." However, you may realize that this is not what you want. Perhaps you think you want it because you have not found something that is meaningful to you.

I recommend that you go to college. What do you have to lose? After a year of college, reevaluate your options.

In any case, I wish you the best of luck and hope that you find yourself.

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 07:06 pm: Edit

The guy is obviously not being serious. It's just a phase, buddy. Tomorrow you'll have a different outlook. Don't make crazaaay decisions based on one day's experience.

By Starman (Starman) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 03:13 am: Edit

Heh, at least I can count on one thing from this board---multiple responses written in readable english. There aren't too many idiots that populate CC.

No, I'm not lost, I know perfectly well what I am---lazy and unmotivated. I could also be considered selfish---but honestly, does it matter? There aren't too many morals left in today's world anyway. Am I frustrated? Yes, life is tough, and I've fought with all my efforts---only to see that the effort was worthless in the end, I still could easily get rejected from the Ivy League schools . I say, forget this, there's lots of better things to do than pursue a lost cause.

"Seriously dude, how will doing these things pay the rent for the apartment, buy the gaming systems, buy the computer, and pay the electric the gaming systems and computer use to run? O' yeah, and as I recall girls aren't cheap either. How are you going to pay to live??"

Don't worry, these things are not that hard to come by. I'm a pretty retro gamer, newer games bore me to death, and its pretty easy to get a decent older pc (1-2 ghz athlon/athlon xp) for $50-100 depending on where you get it from. I've already got plenty of gaming systems ranging from 8 bit (sega master sys, nes) to 128 bit (dreamcast, gamecube, xbox) that I bought with my own money, although most are secondhand. I've got plenty of games already for all these systems, and for the games I don't have... remember, the internet is a good place for obtaining many things freely .

If I don't pay excessive water and gas bills, a single electric bill will be pretty easy to pay---odd jobs and quick fixes will get you enough to pay rent, electricity, food, you name it. I've got some major programming experience in various platforms including the Hitachi SH4 asm, x86 asm, programming in pascal, C/C++, and some limited Java runtime. I've also got good experience in html programming (if you even consider it a language) and computer repair/tutorial skills, for what they're worth. Add to that, I've done plenty of blue collar jobs---gardening, newspaper delivery, janitorial services, senior citizen services, hospital work, accounting, secretarial jobs, and desk clerk experience. I even do tutorial and homework services for students at my high school that are too lazy or stupid to do their own work, although you people may consider that immoral and cheating. I can do any one or combination of these quick fix jobs for easy money, and get enough to pay off my bills, eat, play vid games, sleep, and ****.

How will I drink water without paying for it? The public water fountain is free, they have those things for a purpose you know. Public utilites have all sorts of great things---showers, toilets, soap, etc---that is, if you look around for the right ones. Girls aren't cheap---but a quick **** buddy isn't too hard to get, and if I can't get that, my imagination is more than enough .

What about furniture? What about a social life? What about family? There's plenty of "what about" you could ask me, but I've got an answer for everything. Furniture?--- don't need it, the ground is good enough for many things. Social life?--- the internet has many fun people to talk to (you guys included of course). Family?--- They're a bother, and starting your own is too big of a sacrifice. Go on, I challenge anybody, ask me a "what about" question, and i will gladly respond.

"Maybe you are serious. Probably not. In any case, if you were seeking a more positive, moral-boosting response, you won't get it from me...people like you are a lost cause. "

A lost cause? How am I exactly a lost cause? I'd like to see a response to this.

Alot of intelligent people with good academic performance tend to want to pursue in professional fields, but I say---why? Would you rather wake up every day at 7 am, get to work, perform menial and extremely boring tasks, return home late, have a family that moans and complains at how you don't provide for them, be too tired to **** with your spouse at night, and then proceed to subjugate yourself to this torture every single day for the rest of your ENTIRE LIFE. Or would you rather be like me, and live like you feel like, having a fun time all the time, no stresses, no worries, and video games for all.

Long post, but please read the whole thing and respond intelligently. Intelligence is a good thing, even if u think I don't have any.

By Thermodude (Thermodude) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 03:47 am: Edit

Uhmm..Starman, the menial jobs you listed don't pay too much...I'd estimate perhaps $10 per hour. Think about that and compute the math. Assumming you can live of $15,000 a year, you'll need to work 1500 hours during that year. Why not attend college, get a degree, and work about 2000 hours earning $60,000? The latter option will actually be more pay/time effective (What essentially is $30 an hour vs $10 an hour.)

But really, Starman, do you have any passion for any subjects (maybe computer science)? I myself am passionate about mathematics and physics...I'd rather do Physics problems than play computer games. That's why I really want to attend college and enter a professional field related to math and physics. For me, I'd love to go to work, knowing that it is related to math and physics (the money is just the icing on the cake). Believe me Starman, there are many people who work 40 hours a week or more who love their jobs.

By Feenotype2 (Feenotype2) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 03:50 am: Edit

Sorry, I haven't read the above the posts (frankly because I'm too lazy to right now), but I still want to respond.

I think it's good that you realize that may not be ready for college. Not everybody is. Now, nothing comes easy in the world, so you can't just do all those fun things without work. Getting a min wage that you like and some roomates and you may be able to pull off.

But like some people said above (ok, i read snippets), you're only young once. Don't waste it (not to mention your parents money) sludging through school when you dont have to or dont want to either.

My advice is wait, find yourself (your real interests and whatnot), find some real maturity and real-world knowledge, and then go to school. I wish I had been able to do that.

By Alexandre (Alexandre) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 04:29 am: Edit

The two are not mutually exclusive. Take the time to find yourself, but realize that without a college degree, you are not going to achieve the independence and security you will most likely desire later in life. So, if you take a year off, that's fine, but remember that college is not longer a luxury. It is a necessity.

By Cyclingdad (Cyclingdad) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 07:45 am: Edit

You're obviously intelligent enough to at least think you have a plan, so I say go for it. If you aren't motivated to go to college, then college is not the place for you right now. Put your plan into effect and see what happens. But if your parents help you, that isn't the real world, is it? You'll never know unless you get out on your own, make or not. And you can always change your plan, you'll have whatever freedom you make for yourself. IMHO. Good luck!

By Soaring (Soaring) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 12:26 pm: Edit

Isn't there a job where people test video games for a living and answer questions on the phone about the latest games?

By The_Tenacious (The_Tenacious) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 02:16 pm: Edit

I support you.

By Pkpat2000 (Pkpat2000) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 05:28 pm: Edit

Starman, that is the most hilarious post ever.

By 1212 (1212) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 08:16 pm: Edit

this somehow reminds me of that crazy movie American Beauty
Starman follow your own desired path, because if you take on a career that u might be indifferent about, you will have a midlife crisis in a subarbian town with a good for nothing wife who wont give you any and a weirdo daughter. You will then have an epiphany that your life sucks and you are a failure and will start getting high with the expensive marijuana from the kid next door and become attracted to your daughter's 16 year old high school friend. You will try your best to seduce this broken little girl, but you will find out that she is a virgin and stop, realizing that your life was great. Then the homosexual father next door will shoot and kill you.

Broke Video Game Player > Death
anyday

As for the issue of money i suggest you find a decent job, quit and blackmail the boss saying that he sexually harassed you. Apparently it works.

By Vancat (Vancat) on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 08:21 pm: Edit

is this thread a joke?

By Piman3141 (Piman3141) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 12:13 pm: Edit

int thread=i)
"is this"-i+"joke a joke?"
then
System.out.println("Yes")


you get the picture!

By Starman (Starman) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:38 pm: Edit

Yay, back from Sat II's. Hopefully I didn't fail.
Everybody should do themselves a favor and listen to Rusty Cooley and consider him their new guitar god.

"int thread=i)
"is this"-i+"joke a joke?"
then
System.out.println("Yes") "

int name;
cout>name;
if(name="Piman3141")
cout<<"Don't type in code. It's annoying.";
else
cout<<"Howdy, I won't type in code anymore.";

Don't type in code. It gets annoying beyond belief, at least to me.

To all those ask if this thread is a joke, I don't know, its somewhere in the middle.

I know that going to college is crucial in being a successful individual and surviving in today's stupid gogogo! society, but I just hate the kind of lifestyle I've been living since high school started, which will only complicate and expand as I get older and more "successful". Being able to live like a bum is disgraceful and pathetic, but sure beats having to go through the above.


"Uhmm..Starman, the menial jobs you listed don't pay too much...I'd estimate perhaps $10 per hour. Think about that and compute the math. Assumming you can live of $15,000 a year, you'll need to work 1500 hours during that year. Why not attend college, get a degree, and work about 2000 hours earning $60,000?"

You're thinking too long term--think shor term. If I can earn $40 a day (4 hrs), then after Ieat I'd be left with about $32 ($8 for a large pizza/decent size fast food meal). If it's Friday, I'll stock fish fillets from McDonalds and have a nice supply during the weekend. If I have $32 at then end of the day, then I'll have $960 a month, $11520 every year. Assuming I'm living in a semi beat up, crappy neighborhood, I'd leave rent and bills to be about $600 a month. That's $360 I have left every month to use up. $360=more than enough to have a good time, at least for me. If I'm desperate, I could save that up, and live with what I have for the next three months, and then I'll have about $1080, which is more than good enough for me.

"I myself am passionate about mathematics and physics...I'd rather do Physics problems than play computer games."

Dude, are you for real? You would rather determine the impact velocity of a ball hitting the ground if dropped off an airplane flying 20 m/s westward rather than play insane games like Gunstar Heroes where you blow up stuff and insane crazy music plays in the background and you dodge four thousand bullets while paying back with your own seven thousand? ::gasp:: (run on)

I don't belive someone would actually ENJOY doing what qualifies as "work" to me, especially physics. Don't mean to diss your passions, but I hate physics.

"Believe me Starman, there are many people who work 40 hours a week or more who love their jobs. "

I don't mean to sound like an *ss, but I don't belive thats the majority view. Too many adults I know hate their jobs.

By Starman (Starman) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 10:39 pm: Edit

Continued....

"Isn't there a job where people test video games for a living and answer questions on the phone about the latest games? "

Yeah, problem is that you don't actually play the game when you test it, they have you test for glitches and what not. So, they might have you run around in a big circle for 40 minutes to see what happens, or come up with obscure phenomenon and actions for you to test. It's really boring, kinda like a professional job, only more pathetic because you have to be a loser to do it.

"I support you. "

Good job, I love you too. In a purely heterosexual way of course, if you are a guy ^_^.

I'm sorry, long post, but I feel like rambling after taking the Sat II's. Respond intelligently because remember, intelligence is a good thing, even if you think Rusty Cooley sucks.

"Broke Video Game Player > Death
anyday "

AGREED. I guess I'm right after all.

Long post, but I feel like rambling considering on how I might have failed the Sat II's. Respond intelligently because remember, intelligence is a good thing even if you think Rusty Cooley does not have madd guitar skillz.

By Koopatroopa (Koopatroopa) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:03 pm: Edit

You know, reading this thread has placed an interesting scenario in my mind.

Let's say someone slaves everyday of high school, get into a prestigious college, studies hard and wins a Rhodes scholarship, graduates from Oxford and then goes to Harvard Law School, slaves away doing law for a couple of years, finally obtains his/her degree and dies in a car crash the day afterwards.

Let's say this person hated what they did. So now, what is this person's life worth? In this case, I agree with Starman's thinking. Far too many people think that they are guaranteed a future.

By Averagemathgeek (Averagemathgeek) on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Here is another interesting scenario.

Let's say someone slaves everyday during the early part of high school, decides he doesn't want to attend college, and finds himself in a perpertual cycle of work and play, the very cycle he was trying to escape, and finally realizes his folly and dies in a car crash the day afterwards.

Let's say this person hated what they did. So now, what is this person's life worth? In all cases, I agree with Koopatroopa's thinking. Far too many people think that they are guaranteed a future.

By The_G_Wall (The_G_Wall) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 12:57 am: Edit

I think you should stop smoking every day. Believe me, I used to think like that, until I got busted and was forced to give my life direction.

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:34 am: Edit

Here's a scenario: You're 42, broke, single (though that is too flattering a word to describe your state), and you haven't showered in 3 days. You're playing Quake 12 on the computer when suddenly you realize, "My God...I hate this game. No, I hate ALL games." You take off your headphones and put down the joystick. You pull down your shirt to cover your hairy protruding belly. As you are getting up, you feel a pain in your chest. And now you are dead. But no one finds your carcass for 20 years.

...I don't know where I'm going with this. But maybe *YOU* do!

By Alphamom (Alphamom) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 06:11 am: Edit

Here's a thought. You might look for a college that is fun, explore careers that would be fulfilling (maybe helping people who don't have your brains to do well in this world), and cover your future bases just in case you change your mind as you become an adult. There's always the scenario that you could be hit by a truck and NOT die, with no financial resevoir to take care of yourself. Use your health, youth and brains while you can to make the best life for you and the ones who will love you. Good Luck in finding a productive meaningful path in life.

By Davidrune (Davidrune) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Here's a scenario. A guy works really hard in high school. He goes to a prestigious college. He works really hard at his college and goes to a prestigious graduate school. He works really hard at graduate school, and gets a good job. He works really hard at his job and he gets promoted. He continues working hard until he retires. Then shortly afterwards he dies.

What does it all accomplish??

I guess, I could you could rephrase that whole thing from a different perspective and you could say that he enjoyed working. But does anybody really enjoy work.

Did I enjoy studying for the SAT Is and SAT IIs? Did I enjoy cramming for eight hours for a biology exam? Did I enjoy learning about what happens when a plane intersects a line? Do I really care that esters are sweet smelling? Who gives a flying •••• about the chiral centre? Do I even care where chyme is produced? Or memorizing esoteric facts in history class that I know that I will forget next year?

••••, now I'M DEPRESSED.

By Averagemathgeek (Averagemathgeek) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 02:35 pm: Edit

Davidrune, you make a good point. Who really enjoys work? I don't know. In the end, it does come down to happiness. If you do not want to be happy, you will not be happy. If you make yourself happy, then you will be happy. As you can see, the former is easier than the latter for most people. That would explain why so many people are unhappy.

"What does it all accomplish?"

Maybe, it helped his children live better lives. Maybe, his work helped people around the world. Maybe, he is just glad that he lived a life that had hardships yet he kept going.

By Anglophile (Anglophile) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:32 pm: Edit

Hey Starman You know, you would make a great existentialist author. Seriously-- write all of this down and publish it. It'll be read in every high school english class across the country, and you'll make gobs of money. You remind me of a Holden Caulfield-ish character, and your writing style and ideas are perfect for this genre. So, go. Live in your apartment, in your self-absorbed, self-contained world-- and write it down. Other authors have done as much with great success.

And if you decide to go to college (which I, for one, hope you don't-- the world would lose a very interesting piece of literature), college is much more enjoyable than high school. You don't have to work very hard, there is plenty of time for games, and plenty of easy girls (if that's what you're into).

By Starman (Starman) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:34 pm: Edit

"I think you should stop smoking every day. Believe me, I used to think like that, until I got busted and was forced to give my life direction. "

Sorry, I don't smoke. Two puffs made me change my mind. Its stupidly painful with all the coughing. Yea, I guess I can never be truly bad*ss anymore, cause I probably will never smoke.

"Here's a scenario: You're 42, broke, single (though that is too flattering a word to describe your state), and you haven't showered in 3 days. You're playing Quake 12 on the computer when suddenly you realize, "My God...I hate this game. No, I hate ALL games." You take off your headphones and put down the joystick. You pull down your shirt to cover your hairy protruding belly. As you are getting up, you feel a pain in your chest. And now you are dead. But no one finds your carcass for 20 years. "

Sorry, it's been 16 years and I still don't hate games. I don't think I'm gonna start hating them anytime soon. If I do die of a heart attack, at least I'll be damn happy I had a kick*ss lifestyle.

"Let's say this person hated what they did. So now, what is this person's life worth? In this case, I agree with Starman's thinking. Far too many people think that they are guaranteed a future. "

See, that's EXACTLY what I predicted my life to turn out to be, if I continue into college. So, I figured, why not live it up? Seriously, in these times you can't predict the future no matter how smart or successful you are. There's too many drunk drivers out there, you know.

"••••, now I'M DEPRESSED. "

It's ok, that's like me everyday. Let's be drinking buddies, there's company in misery.

" "What does it all accomplish?"
Maybe, it helped his children live better lives. Maybe, his work helped people around the world. Maybe, he is just glad that he lived a life that had hardships yet he kept going. "

Sorry, that kinda thing only happens in novels and poorer families, not to middle class, spoiled losers like myself. I'm too selfish to care about other people, sorry, tragic heroes don't exist in real life.

By Starman (Starman) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:38 pm: Edit

Damn Anglophile, you posted while I was writing up my own post. I'm too lazy to write up a response, but I'll say that Holden Caulfield was pretty kick*ss, if only he wasn't such a wuss. I've got great respect for the guy, even if he only is a fictional character. I don't know about writing a novel, maybe when I get older I might.

By Anglophile (Anglophile) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 04:04 pm: Edit

Ah well, that's too bad. In order to be as depressed as you are, you have to be very intelligent. Intelligence breeds misery because you actually *think* about everything. I've been down that road--though not nearly as far as you've gone. What I like about writing a book, is that you then have the power to make everyone else *think* and become equally depressed about their sorry lot in life. And that would give me, at least, a lot of satisfaction. But then, I'm an evil english major.

By Thermodude (Thermodude) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Starman, Davidrune...all I have to say is that if it weren't for hardworking individuals, you guys wouldn't even HAVE a computer to play games on. True enough, just look at about every single invention you use. (i.e computer, car, radio, toilet, telephone...the list is near endless) These inventions are so widespread because of the hardwork of many. If no one in society ever worked hard, we'd still be living in the Stone Age.

BTW, Starman, I have to say is that you are given many oppurtunities others in this world lack. The majority of the people on this planet do not have computers to play games on, they often times struggle just to find food, and many times die of malnutrition. You are VERY lucky to be born in a family where you have enough to eat, and where you have enough time to play computer games and goof off. I wonder what you'd be thinking right now if you were born in a poor family in a 3rd world country.

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Nope. Intelligence is when you suddenly realize, "What the hell am I depressed for?" And then you spend the rest of your life with a little smile on your face. In Einstein's case, a big tonguey smile.

By Knightmare (Knightmare) on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 11:46 pm: Edit

Let me repeat:

is this thread a joke?

If all you did was play video games and have sex, those things would become so meaningless after some time. You would inevitablly and eventually feel bored and numb, at which point you will have nowhere to go. The only reason the things we enjoy, and the only reason being lazy is enjoyable, is because it is a contrast from work, hardship, and frustration. Put it this way: good can not be defined without evil, and fun can not exist without work. Without work as a contrast, fun ceases to be fun after a while. The best way to deal with life is not to just stop working, but to learn to ENJOY YOUR JOB.

By Starman (Starman) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 01:39 am: Edit

Thermodude, everything you said is right. I'm going to renounce my lazy, selfish ways and happily apply to college with a big smile on my face, cause I'm not depressed anymore and I'm following Aim78's advice.

Seriously, do you honestly think I can relate to people who live in poverty and are starving and those kind of things? No, I'm a spoiled middle class brat. I have it easy. As a result, I'm lazy and hate work. Since those kids are more deserving than I am to go to college, I'll just open up another spot for one of them to get in. You see, by me being a "loser" and "pathetic bum", I'm actually HELPING society. Hah, what do you know, its a win/win situation ^_^.

"If all you did was play video games and have sex, those things would become so meaningless after some time. You would inevitablly and eventually feel bored and numb, at which point you will have nowhere to go."

Man, you're obviously too ambitious in your thinking and probably your lifestyle. Believe me, I'm plenty sure that I'll be A-ok with doing absolutely nothing except eating, sleeping, playing video games, and f*cking my entire life. Also, believe me when I say that they are thousands of folks like me. Also, believe me when I say that you should get your head out of your *ss and take things a bit more lightly. Why work for more toys when you don't want any?

As for this thread being a joke, I still don't know. It's somewhere in the middle of being serious and being lighthearted.

Now, excuse me while I go listen to AC/DC. Back in Black came on the radio 40 billion times today, but I'll go listen to it again.

"Cause I'm Back in Black! Cause I'm Baack in Blaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

By Pinkheart (Pinkheart) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 02:48 am: Edit

how about balance work and play? to that story of the guy who keeps working..

you have to support yourself someway.. i think you can get a better chance of finding something you like to do with a degree?

By Knightmare (Knightmare) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 02:54 am: Edit

Starman, you're definitely joking (or just plain simple-minded). I know it sounds really swell to believe that having fun all the time would be a great life that would never become tiring, but that's pretty wishful thinking. It's like drugs - if you have too much booze, your body acquires a national tolerance to it and you need more and more booze to obtain the same effect. And after a while, your body's tolerance would be SO great that you would need an ungodly amount of booze to obtain that effect...my point is that if you do nothing but have fun, you'll get bored of fun. Don't try to deny it

By Duffy123x (Duffy123x) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 03:15 am: Edit

Hmmm...

"Look," I said. "Here's my idea. How would you like to get the hell out of here? Here's my idea. I know this guy down in Greenwich Village that we can borrow his car for a couple of weeks. He used to go to the same school I did and he still owes me ten bucks. What we could do is, tomorrow morning we could drive up to assachusetts and Vermont, and all around there, see. It's beautiful as hell up there, It really is." I was getting excited as hell, the more I thought of it, and I sort of reached over and took old Sally's goddam hand. What a goddam fool I was. "No kidding," I said. "I have about a hundred and eighty bucks in the bank. I can take it out when it opens in the morning, and then I could go down and get this guy's car. No kidding. We'll stay in these cabin camps and stuff like that till the dough runs out. Then, when the dough runs out, I could get a job somewhere and we could live somewhere with a brook and all and, later on, we could get married or something. I could chop all our own wood in the wintertime and all. Honest to God, we could have a terrific time! Wuddaya say? C'mon! Wuddaya say? Will you do it with me? Please!"

"You can't just do something like that," old Sally said. She sounded sore as hell.
"Why not? Why the hell not?"

"Stop screaming at me, please," she said. Which was crap, because I wasn't even screaming at her.

"Why can'tcha? Why not?"

"Because you can't, that's all. In the first place, we're both practically children. And did you ever stop to think what you'd do if you didn't get a job when your money ran out? We'd starve to death. The whole thing's so fantastic, it isn't even--"

"It isn't fantastic. I'd get a job. Don't worry about that. You don't have to worry about that. What's the matter? Don't you want to go with me? Say so, if you don't."

"It isn't that. It isn't that at all," old Sally said. I was beginning to hate her, in a way. "We'll have oodles of time to do those things--all those things. I mean after you go to college and all, and if we should get married and all.

There'll be oodles of marvelous places to go to. You're just--"

"No, there wouldn't be. There wouldn't be oodles of places to go to at all. It'd be entirely different," I said. I was getting depressed as hell again.

"What?" she said. "I can't hear you. One minute you scream at me, and the next you--"

"I said no, there wouldn't be marvelous places to go to after I went to college and all. Open your ears. It'd be entirely different. We'd have to go downstairs in elevators with suitcases and stuff. We'd have to phone up everybody and tell 'em good-by and send 'em postcards from hotels and all. And I'd be working in some office, making a lot of dough, and riding to work in cabs and Madison Avenue buses, and reading newspapers, and playing bridge all the time, and going to the movies and seeing a lot of stupid shorts and coming attractions and newsreels. Newsreels. Christ almighty. There's always a dumb horse race, and some dame breaking a bottle over a ship, and some chimpanzee riding a goddam bicycle with pants on. It wouldn't be the same at all. You don't see what I mean at all."

... [skipping several paragraphs]

If you want to know the truth, I don't even know why I started all that stuff with her. I mean about going away somewhere, to Massachusetts and Vermont and all. I probably wouldn't've taken her even if she'd wanted to go with me. She wouldn't have been anybody to go with. The terrible part, though, is that I meant it when I asked her. That's the terrible part. I swear to God I'm a madman.

By Starman (Starman) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 05:02 am: Edit

Knightmare, haven't you ever seen a "druggie". Here, let me define it for you: a guy who's hooked on crack and needs stronger stuff to survive. He keeps on getting stronger and stronger goods, but he doesn't really stop .... cause he loves the weeeeeeeeed.

Believe me, plenty of people love to have fun and nothing else. They're everywhere, in folk tales, novels, TV shows, etc. They're usually criticized as being lazy and immoral and WRONG, but in today's society they can exist pretty easily. If you don't believe me, just read what I posted above. If you still don't believe me, ask around and I'm sure you'll find people who follow that kind of lifestyle. If you STILL don't believe me, well, then, maybe its time for you to loosen up and stop being such a hard*ss. Remember, fun is always fun, but work is NEVER fun.

Pinkheart, if you could name a profession you'd think I'd enjoy, I'll look into it. But considering you don't really know what I'm into or what I like to do, it'll be hard for you to make a suggestion. Here let me describe myself for you.

Umm... I'm about 5'8", 184 lbs, I work out alot and enjoy engaging in physical exercise. I've been part of the wrestling team my entire high school life and placed 2nd in leauge both 10th and 11th grade, getting my varsity letter last year. I also competetively weightlift, my max bench being 315 lbs, and my max leg press being 450 lbs.

I also like to play my saxophone, and I've been pretty heavily involved in band. Although I've been first chair section leader since 10th grade, I'll make it clear---band sucks, I hate it. But I love my sax. Yea, I also like listening to lots of different music, I'm a big music fan. I listen to everything pretty much under the sun, although these days I'm obsessed with pretending I'm Rusty Cooley.

I LOVE video games. I have a HUGE collection of the stuff, and I'm a terribly hardcore fan. I've got everything under sun, pretty much every major console made after sega master system, and at least 50 games for each. This is also discounting the huge arsenal of PC games I have and doesn't include all the GoodSets I've got on my PC. Seriously, I LOVE video games. I play them, make them, adore them. Sometimes me and my bro pretend we're Terry Bogard and Rock Howard, and we pretend fight. Yes, I know, I just made myself look EXTREMELY pathetic.

I enjoy programming to an extent, but mainly to see what I can pull off. I'm just too lazy to make a full blown game.

I enjoy blue collar work. It's alot more fun and interesting than real professional work, because you talk about everything under the sun, whereas in professional work, the conversation is geared to the job itself. Plus the people are nicer, and care less about competition and "getting ahead". Yea, I'd probably enjoy being your shoeshiner when you're rich and I'm not, but at least I'll be damn happy, cause I'll go home to play many fun video games, then off to •••• and have a fun time with my f*ckbuddy of the week.

As you can see I'm terribly desperate to find sumthing to do---I hate to work and actually fully utilize my intelligence and ability, and love to play and rot my mind.

::sigh:: I'm depressed.

Duffy 123x, if you typed up that entire thing, then you are most severely awesome. But since you probably just copy/pasted, you're just reserved to "cool".

By Pinkheart (Pinkheart) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:22 am: Edit

Maybe you could be a personal trainer? people pay like 100 bucks per session or something, depending..

or you could put your other interests to work.. be a musician?

oh and it's your lifestyle.. but i'm kinda curious- f*ckbuddy? right now you're probably thinking YEAH and you're a guy but wouldn't you ever want someone to settle down with one day instead of meaningless ****s?

By Knightmare (Knightmare) on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 01:35 pm: Edit

"Believe me, plenty of people love to have fun and nothing else. They're everywhere, in folk tales, novels, TV shows, etc."

Those are all fictional characters

"...work is NEVER fun."

That's your whole problem. If you just reallign your values a little bit and find something you truly enjoy doing AND get paid well for it, you've suceeded.

Oh, and about the whole "...f*ckbuddy of the week" thing, all I have to say is - God Bless your noble Soul

But seriously, I agree somewhat with what you're saying. The difference is that I believe the best way to go about things is the mean between two extremes - enjoying everything in moderation, including excess. Excess in moderation.