Is this getting out of hand OR WHAT?!?





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By Vancat (Vancat) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 04:51 pm: Edit

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/world/newsid_2688000/2688065.stm

Do any of you agree that people should be allowed to sue fast food places because it makes them get fat??

It's completely ridiculous how lawsuit-happy people are these days. JEEZ.

By Onnihs (Onnihs) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 04:58 pm: Edit

lol that's like sueing Toyota after you drive into a pole.

By Justperfect (Justperfect) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 05:04 pm: Edit

i loved how it said "the kids lived on a DIET of burgers and fries" lol

By Steveruleworld (Steveruleworld) on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 05:13 pm: Edit

I think the people who do that are part of the reason why Americans in general are lazy, we want a quick buck, someone else to take the blame, and this was is easiest outlet currently. If they had common sense they would have gotten good food instead.

By Salamanda (Salamanda) on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 02:42 am: Edit

BreakTheChain.Org has some good trivial law suits...

By Mcz (Mcz) on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 08:59 pm: Edit

NO! Everyone knows that there are calories, carbohydrates, fats, etc. in fast foods. They cannot blame their ignorance on the fast food places. This is like buying chocolate and suing the company because you get pimples. It is ridiculous.

By Candi1657 (Candi1657) on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 09:01 pm: Edit

This is what I call the erosion of personal responsibility. It needs to be stopped.

By Aim78 (Aim78) on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:08 pm: Edit

It is ridiculous, but do these companies even post their Nutrition Facts in the store? Most don't. Subway, on the other hand, has all the info on the napkin. And they advertise 6g of fat which is how much the most fattening sandwich has.

Fast food companies don't need more money anyway. Screw 'em.

By Tongos (Tongos) on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:11 pm: Edit

lol.

By Kiwee (Kiwee) on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:47 pm: Edit

American have become lazy to the extent that we now want to blame our laziness on other people. No one forces them to eat the food. Most fast food places nowadays offer salads, fruit, and other healthy choices. McDonalds has great salads! People need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions, and then to control those actions. Not neccessarily in that order.

By Feuler (Feuler) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:19 am: Edit

I hate people like that so much. They ruin the world for the rest of us. It's because of stupid-ass people doing stupid-ass things that I have to look at a warning label on every damn product telling me not to do things I should know not to do anyway. It's f***ing ridiculous.

Two words: natural selection. If some dumb-ass kid doesn't know fast food is bad for them, maybe it's a good thing they're getting fat and ugly and won't pass on their genes and raise stupid kids like them.

In case you cannot tell, the whole subject of the rampant American sense of entitlement gets me very angry.

By Vancat (Vancat) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:34 am: Edit

hehe. i bet you read the Darwin Awards.

By Browninfall (Browninfall) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:10 am: Edit

Don't forget to thank the ambulance chasers too.

By Docalex (Docalex) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:22 am: Edit

....These people cannot use "fast food" as the main cause of their obesity. Studies show that it is their lack of physical activities throughout the day due to laziness or lack of motivation. Regardless of the reason, this type of case should not even be heard.

By Bern700 (Bern700) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:21 pm: Edit

I'm originally from Mexico and moved to the US like 8 years ago. I've noticed that Americans are obsessed with sueing people. What's up with that???? They sue about everything. In Mexico, we only really sue someone in an extreme case but here it seems that people sue about everything. I've even heard of a case in which a guy's dog jumped over a fence and landed in the neighbor's pool and drowned and the guy sued his neighbors. Or a guy crashing his car because he put it on cruise control and feel asleep. Your kids got a bad grade on the test, sue the teacher.

I just really want to know why Americans are so obsessed with sueing???? I've noticed that in the other countries that I have lived in say a woman slips in the grocery store...she usually is helped up and the store apologoizes. While in the US, although the woman is probably fine, she will end up sueing the store for this, that and the other. Come on it's called an accident...get over it.

By Neo (Neo) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 01:03 pm: Edit

Bern -- you're quite correct.

By Vancat (Vancat) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2004/08/23/harshness_of_red_marks_has_students_seeing_purple/

stupid stupid stupid.

By Songman (Songman) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 01:26 pm: Edit

Vancat- I love this comment from the article

"I do not use red," said Robin Slipakoff, who teaches second and third grades at Mirror Lake Elementary School in Plantation, Fla. "Red has a negative connotation, and we want to promote self-confidence. I like purple. I use purple a lot."

Ok let's be confident while we get a wrong answer. Confident so we don't have to study to get the right answer? All this touchy feely stuff Blecccccccch!

By Browninfall (Browninfall) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 01:58 pm: Edit

As reported in today's Manchester(New Hampshire) Union Leader, an Exeter businesswoman has filed a federal lawsuit against Southwest Airlines because she was required to buy a second ticket for herself. Southwest has a policy requiring large people to buy two seats if they do not fit comfortably into one. She has filed a civil rights lawsuit in U.S. District Court.

By Lildv (Lildv) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 02:33 pm: Edit

Haha wow...I think if you are literally sitting in 2 seats...you should be paying for 2 seats..makes sense.

By Joseancer (Joseancer) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:20 pm: Edit

I'd say the whole sueing issue is just a negative side-effect of a privilege/right that is quite essential. Good things always seem to be turned into someting bad, one way or another. An uncle of mine commented the other day that he thinks that the internet, because of all the problems that it produces like.. spam, viruses, pornography.. etc etc., really has done more harm than good to our society. I, of course, disagreed as the internet has done wonders in improving communication and increasing tremendously the amount of information available to the common person. Anyhow, i've totally digressed.

I do observe that lawyers (ambulance chasers.. hehe), or at least certain types of lawyers, will always create commercials telling people who had no intention of sueing anyone, that if they are suffering from something, they can get money from someone for the suffering. And of course everyone knows why that happens, the lawyer gets money whether you win or lose.

It all seems to have to do with people no longer relying on morality to control their actions, but JUST the letter of the law. Is what i'm doing right or wrong? Well, if the law doesn't say its wrong, I guess it must be ok. The ambulance chasers prey on this mentality.

-Jose

By Feuler (Feuler) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:41 pm: Edit

I guess that is an angle from which I never looked at it. But I STILL hate this mentality that you should sue whenever anything goes wrong.

My dad is a civil defense lawyer, and he always tells me he'd love to have someone like me on a jury because whenever he tells me about some case he's taking to court I get all pissed off and can't believe the plaintiff is suing for what they are. And yet often they win, when I think in many cases they should not only lose, they should pay a huge penalty to the defendant for wasting their fücking time. ARGH.

I trace it to the American sense of entitlement, as I mentioned earlier.

Another thing I don't understand: what the hell happened to market forces? If a certain company makes a dangerous product for example, it should be the job of consumer groups to advise people against it so that they will buy a competing product instead. NOT the job of the legal system to waste a bunch of time and pay a bunch of lawyers. Sure, lawsuits result in things like warning labels and whatnot, but MARKET FORCES CAN DO THAT EXACT SAME THING if companies realize that people will not buy their product unless they put on the label, make less slippery floors, post nurtition facts, whatever.

Americans feel like life should be fair, but they don't realize that the pursuit of complete equality is not only inefficient, it's impossible (see: Communism). Sh!t happens. People make mistakes, spill coffee on themselves, slip on floors, whatever, but they can't expect to be compensated for everything. All it does is send even more money to lawyers and doesn't solve ANYTHING.

PS I liked this comic from today, which is slightly relevant:

http://www.comics.com/wash/candorville/archive/images/candorville2003050740825.gif

By Glowingamy (Glowingamy) on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:11 pm: Edit

I've heard about that case SO. MANY. TIMES. Yes deterioration of personal responsibility is a big problem. So let's take responsibility for ourselves, stop moralizing about people who are worse about things and worry about our own weaknesses.


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