|By Justsomehskid (Justsomehskid) on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 07:54 pm: Edit|
I really want to apply early to Columbia (after talking to friends who are going there, visiting, and reading about it) but my parents are reluctant to let me apply early, because my father is a big fan of Stanford and my mother a big fan of smaller, non-city schools. Basically, they are challenging the early decision on the basis that they think there's no point in applying early because the chances are the same, so in that case "why not be safe?" My dad, at the lecture, thought they said it didn't help at all, but my understanding was that when they said that someone who wouldn't get in regular wouldn't get in early, they didn't literally mean it, but meant that they wouldn't accept someone weaker than their standard prospective student, but among stronger students early admission could help. I think they might be more likely to accept stronger applicants early than regular to get better matriculation. Either way:
What do you know about early admission at Columbia, and how much do you think it helps? Also, if it helps, how do you know or why do you think so?
Here are the basic stats, I think I have a decent chance at Columbia regular admission but nowhere close to 50%, and I want to know if applying early would help.
Ancient and Medeival History: A-
Biology: A- (mine was the only A of any sort in the class, but the college has no way of knowing, I guess)
Spanish II: A-
Debate II (semester class): A
World Georgraphy (semester class): A
World History: A
Spanish III: A
Honors English: A
Chemistry: A (-? can't remember)
Elementary Functions (Honors Pre-Calc): A-
Junior year (first year AP courses available to me)
Debate II (1 semester class): A
General Music (1 semester class): A
AP American History: A-
AP English Language and Composition: A
AP Calculus BC: B
AP Computer Science: A
Latin I: A
AP Physics C: B
The debate is taken twice because I am on the debate team and am supposed to take the class each year.
Will discontinuity in language (switch to Latin) hurt my chances?
Math - 780
Verbal - 760
I am retaking for higher verbal
Writing, Physics, Math IIC - 800
English Language and Composition: 5
US History: 4
Calculus BC: 5
AB subset for Calculus: 5
Computer Science A: 5
Physics C Mechanics: 5
Physics C Electricity and Magnetism: 4
Science Fair - regional winner in mathematics category.
National History day - Qualified for Nationals, won first prize for state (really city because from Washington, DC) and 15th place for national competition.
Magna Cum Laude for National Latin Exam
(there's probably some more little meaningless awards that I can't remember, junior honor society and all that)
Will be National Merit Scholarship Semifinalist
Debate- (10, 11, 12) varsity, went to national competition for NCFL
School paper (since 8th grade) various minor editor positions)
Area non-profit student paper (since 8th grade, it's a pretty serious paper) probably will be managing editor, which is the top student position, this year
Boy Scouts - (since 5th grade) Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow, Crew Leader at Philmont
Ultimate Frisbee Team
Will be student coordinator for DC Student Film Festival (which, probably irrelevantly, was started by a current Columbia student)
Extracirricular summer courses taken: Archaelogy and Philosophy at CTYI.
I am from a Washington, DC big ole public school.
|By Number9 (Number9) on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 09:10 pm: Edit|
Applying to SEAS, oui?
|By Justsomehskid (Justsomehskid) on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 09:17 pm: Edit|
No sir, though I would have better chances if I did. I really like the humanities program at Columbia,and really love philosophy, social sciences, and journalism. I do find a lot of math and science interesting, but I don't want to do it for a major or career.
|By Arangatan (Arangatan) on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 09:42 pm: Edit|
You're retaking your SATs.. why? That's a great score. Anywayz, I think ED will definitely help you at Columbia. I think you have a great chance getting in both RD and ED but I think that maybe ED raises your chances by 10-15% just because they know you wanna go there, and if you really love the school then why not show that to them.
|By Ohnehoffnung (Ohnehoffnung) on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 11:46 pm: Edit|
if you really want to go there, definitely apply early decision. columbia is somewhat backwards in their approach of filling circa 40 percent of their class with early decision kids, but their admit rate drops from about 23% or so for early decision candidates to about 8% for regular. These numbers might not be right, i'm trying to remember what the admissions people said while i was there.
|By Justsomehskid (Justsomehskid) on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 10:45 am: Edit|
Thank you very much for the helpful comments.
I was wondering if there's anyone here who has some inside perspective on the admissions process that could confirm that the chances improve and the higher stats are not SOLELY due to a stronger applicant pool.
|By Justsomehskid (Justsomehskid) on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 02:43 pm: Edit|
|By Jeanrtco (Jeanrtco) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 01:23 pm: Edit|
My daughter goes there, definitely apply early decision. She did not have as high sat scores and really wanted to go there.
|By Dressagechick (Dressagechick) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 05:16 pm: Edit|
They fill about 48% of their class from ED and their regular admit rate last year was 11%
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