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This is first static view of website being rolled out in mid-August.
http://web.cornell.edu/redesign/images/home06.jpg

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:34 am: Edit

You can go to the following blog for more views, and to provide input.

http://web.cornell.edu/redesign/blog/

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:27 am: Edit

I'm lovin it!

By Malicemizer9 (Malicemizer9) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:33 am: Edit

Yes!!!!!!

By Tinwhisker (Tinwhisker) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:08 am: Edit

really nice.

Where is the link for the rest of the screenshots the blog talks about? I could seem to find it, thanks!

By Stargzrlilychk1 (Stargzrlilychk1) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:34 pm: Edit

yeah it really looks great! im lovin the latin translation of the motto and the school seal and the menu being up top now. it really looks much MUCH better, more professional.

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit

Star, sorry to disappoint you, but the Latin is standard dummy text, dating to the 1500's. What Cornell is going to do is, in fact, "shorten" the motto (which has the distinction of being the only English motto in the Ivies) to "Any Person, Any Study" for web and pr purposes. (Of course, the real motto will not be shortened) For more on the spurious Latin and its origins:

The standard Lorem Ipsum passage, used since the 1500s

"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum."

This is drawn loosely from Cicero:

Section 1.10.32 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", written by Cicero in 45 BC

"Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?"

1914 translation by H. Rackham

"But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"

Section 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", written by Cicero in 45 BC

"At vero eos et accusamus et iusto odio dignissimos ducimus qui blanditiis praesentium voluptatum deleniti atque corrupti quos dolores et quas molestias excepturi sint occaecati cupiditate non provident, similique sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollitia animi, id est laborum et dolorum fuga. Et harum quidem rerum facilis est et expedita distinctio. Nam libero tempore, cum soluta nobis est eligendi optio cumque nihil impedit quo minus id quod maxime placeat facere possimus, omnis voluptas assumenda est, omnis dolor repellendus. Temporibus autem quibusdam et aut officiis debitis aut rerum necessitatibus saepe eveniet ut et voluptates repudiandae sint et molestiae non recusandae. Itaque earum rerum hic tenetur a sapiente delectus, ut aut reiciendis voluptatibus maiores alias consequatur aut perferendis doloribus asperiores repellat."

1914 translation by H. Rackham

"On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains."

By Techieguy (Techieguy) on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 09:37 pm: Edit

I'm really liking the new design. But does anyone think that the new motto is dumbed down too much? If I had read it without knowing, I would've thought that the motto belonged to some second of third tier school. To each his own I guess.

By Cornellhopeful (Cornellhopeful) on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 01:07 am: Edit

omg, i love it! I saw the info about the new design a few days ago, but they just put up the pics. It only continues my interest in Cornell.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:57 am: Edit

I thought I was the only one who knew the legend of Lorem Ipsum.

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 09:05 am: Edit

The new website kicks off tomorrow, 8/19, with new Cornell logo.

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:16 pm: Edit

Does anybody here like the "Any Person, any Study" call-sign? Although it's short and catchy, it cheapens the Ivy image. If any person can join in, where is the competiveness? They did a good thing by taking away the big red box and fixing the sesame street homepage, but now they've added a catch-phrase that is as detrimental as "easiest to get into"...except that it's now official!! The Cornell administration sounds as if they're endorsing any bum to come study with them.

They should omit that phrase from the homepage. Spelling out Ezra's words verbatim in small font would be better than "any person, any study"="anybody can join in, you don't even need high SAT scores". Can you imagine that same catch-phrase for Princeton or Stanford? They wouldn't allow it because of the negative connotations.

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:41 pm: Edit

I think they are aware of the adverse reaction to the "any person, any study" epigram. Concept was to show breadth of offerings and accessibility to all regardless of race, gender, etc. Cornell has admirable history in that area, esp. with women, but other Ivies have caught up, and madelinemay's view has predominated in reaction to site so I don't think we will have to worry about this being too prominently displayed or used. It's historical context, however, is important.

By Tge (Tge) on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:52 pm: Edit

"Can you imagine that same catch-phrase for Princeton or Stanford? They wouldn't allow it because of the negative connotations."

they're already too prestigious to worry about negative connotations of a slogan.

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:44 pm: Edit

"madelinemay's view has predominated in reaction to site "

I can imagine that it has, especially since Cornell's track record in positive PR hasn't been the best.

"they're already too prestigious to worry about negative connotations of a slogan."

This kind of slogan would certainly hurt any university, even Harvard.

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:35 pm: Edit

It looks like the website will be up end of today -- it's still the same as of 9am PST.

By Kk19131 (Kk19131) on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 01:31 am: Edit

Wow! I'm loving the new website. Go Big Red! The slogan is not that bad, epically the "any study" part. The university seems to be attempting to display that there are many options for students from all walks of life.

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 05:57 pm: Edit

That's the whole point of the university's founders, an idea a century ahead of most other universities--an open and diverse place of unparalleled course offerings, from pomology to physics, veterinary medicine to Voltaire's ideas, hotel administration to Horatian logic, without boundaries of race or gender to deprive highly qualified students from entrance and education. Many universities have caught up with respect to diversity in the student body. None has yet been able to match the breadth and depth of Cornell's course offerings.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 02:50 pm: Edit

Erstwhile alliterative elucidation, Evans! Excellently expurgated.

By Rogerevans (Rogerevans) on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 04:11 pm: Edit

aww shuckers noodler...btw, you might want to contact Peter Cohl'05 of the University's ad hoc image committee, as you share not only (relative)superannuation, but some similar ideas and approaches--