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Is it true that Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into? That's what i've heard, and it seems like compared to other ivies they're more likely to accept ppl with 1400 sat's and so forth. anyone agree/disagree, have stories to sharE?

By Cchopeful08 (Cchopeful08) on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 10:33 pm: Edit

its not easy when you apply to cals for bio

By Masihshinwa (Masihshinwa) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:05 am: Edit

It is never easy to get admission in any of the Ivies. Cornell has almost the same admission procedures as the other ivies.
About the 1400 sat's, even if you have 1200 sat's you can get into any of the Ivies if your other Stats are excellent.

By Malicemizer9 (Malicemizer9) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:34 am: Edit

No.

By Jcas323 (Jcas323) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:11 am: Edit

yes, i know people from my school, who have gotten into top ivies with less than 1400's. and although cornell seems easy, it has the best bio and other courses of any of the ivies.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 08:20 am: Edit

There is no "easiest Ivy." Each Ivy applicant's unique resume has elements in it that are appropriate to one school and not to another. If you look at the boards here, you'll see that people have been accepted to Yale and rejected from Cornell and vice versa.

There is no magic formula, and there is no universal statistical analysis.

Look at posts from "EvilRobot." 1600 SATs, 4.0 UW, Great ECs, and rejected/waitlisted by all the IVYs he applied to. Nice guy, too.

By Kyle8744 (Kyle8744) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:46 am: Edit

OUCH that would sux. wthere must have been something wrong with his app. how many ivys did he apply to, and what major?

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:01 pm: Edit

His post from another thread. My mistake. He did make Yale...

"Hey,

I was one of those 1600 SAT folks (back in Jan of 2003) and I've now graduated. My elite school record looks like this:
Harvard (with interview): Waitlist
Yale (with interview): Accept
Stanford (no interview): Waitlist
MIT (with interview): Waitlist

Just goes to show that there are no guarantees whatsoever, although I can still say I was never rejected . Incidentally, my SAT2 scores were 800/800/780, 3.9 unweighted GPA, decent extracirriculars (with some unique), 7 AP/IB tests under my belt before senior year with almost-perfect scores (5 5 5 5 5 7 6), college courses in mathematics, blah, blah, blah.

So don't get your hopes up. And do apply to other schools. For instance, I applied to Vanderbilt and got a full tuition scholarship there (where I am attending next year), UC Berkeley, UCLA, and UCI (all of which offered me their Regents scholarship)."

By Confused86 (Confused86) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:42 am: Edit

actually evilrobot got into yale... off the waitlist, but he is going to vandy on a full scholarship

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 09:05 am: Edit

What part of "My mistake. He did make Yale..." was unclear?

By Belial (Belial) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 10:26 am: Edit

cornell easiest? nah.

"penn sucks, so does brown"

By Tomonlineli (Tomonlineli) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:02 pm: Edit

Um Uhhhh, Um I don't get the "He did make Yale" part. How did he make Yale? I thought Yale was already made? How did he find the time to make it? Did he do it over summer break or between classes? What did he make it out of? I like chocolate. Did he make it out of chocolate? Tell me oh "Al Dente" one of the noodle.

Sorry, this sentence is too much for my feeble Land Grant mind to compute.

By Ares15 (Ares15) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 05:53 pm: Edit

"Is it true that Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into? That's what i've heard, and it seems like compared to other ivies they're more likely to accept ppl with 1400 sat's and so forth. anyone agree/disagree, have stories to sharE?"

In a word, yes. Cornell has the highest acceptance rate and lowest average stats. Of course Cornell lovers will say, "well it depends on your school" or "all ivies are hard to get into." Obviously, but that's beating around the bust; plus, I don't see you making the same exceptions for all the other schools (such as Penn having Wharton). *Overall*, it's simply a fact that Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into, which does naturally hurt it's prestige. This in no way makes it a bad school though. Cornell simply has a larger student body, so it's inherently less selective.

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 06:49 pm: Edit

"Cornell simply has a larger student body, so it's inherently less selective."

For the undergrad, Cornell has a higher acceptance rate than the other Ivies, primarily due to the fact that they don't draw from their waitlists. Most universities accept less people initially, lowering admit rates, but then draw from the wait-queues which doesn't get reported.

However, its grad schools are much more selective than, say, Columbia's. Columbia has a much larger student enrollement than Cornell because of the huge grad schools which have acceptance rates of 60-80% overall. A school's prestige is the average of ugrad+grad (e.g. Berkley), which may explain why Cornell if viewed academically higher than many peer Ivies.

By Chemgirl04 (Chemgirl04) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit

"Cornell...primarily due to the fact that they don't draw from their waitlists..."
they do however...
selectivity has no correlation with the quality of the instituation or the quality of its students...thousands of brilliant people attend colleges that have extremely high admissions rates...which should take nothing away from their intelligence or the quality of the education they are recieving

By Masihshinwa (Masihshinwa) on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 09:21 pm: Edit

I agree with the above post!

By Ares15 (Ares15) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 04:44 am: Edit

Yes, but this thread about Cornell being the easiest Ivy to get into, which it is.

By Isunique17 (Isunique17) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit

I think it all depends on what undergraduate college at cornell you are talking about. Engineering and Arts and Science are just as selective as other Ivy League insitutions. They both have above-1400 median SAT scores.

By Malicemizer9 (Malicemizer9) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:45 pm: Edit

The easiest Ivy would be Penn, where the nursing school accepts some 43%

By Creamer515 (Creamer515) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit

dude Ares15 if ur going to yale why are you on the cornell discussion page? you must have no life, or be extremely insecure. don't worry I know a lot of people going to yale just like you; I'm sure you'll be fine.

By Nitroxideracer (Nitroxideracer) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 02:49 pm: Edit

It seems like there sure are a lot of incoming Vanderbilt students here... on the Cornell message board. Well, let's add another.

I'm gonna be a Commodore next year, too.

As for this thread, nearly all the Ivies, unfortunately, have begun resortign to the following questionnaire in determining their acceptees:

A) Are you a legacy? If yes, welcome. If not, please go to question B.

B) Are you perfect? Do you have 4.0 GPA & 1600 SAT I & 2400 combined SAT II & 36 ACT & 240 PSAT & Have you cured cancer? If yes, welcome. If not, please go to question C.

C) Is your mommy or daddy a world leader? If not, then are they at least a Congressional Representative? If yes, welcome. If not, please go to question D.

D) How hard do you think we're gonna laugh when we look at your application and you answered "No" to the above three questions? If you bother coming up with an answer, please, save the $50,000.00 (only for the application) for another college. Good bye.

Cheers.

By Stargzrlilychk1 (Stargzrlilychk1) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 03:54 pm: Edit

Nitroxideracer i can easily see that type of admissions process coming out of somewhere like Yale or Princeton, but not from somewhere like Cornell. Maybe that's why I like the fact that Cornells selectivity isn't quite as low as those schools, because the student body is composed of more real, diverse people, not just legacies and token minorities.

By Diceypit (Diceypit) on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 11:57 pm: Edit

Here is a list of reactions when people ask where i will be attending college.

"wow, Ivy league!" (thank you, its not just HYP)

"Cornell? Oh Iowa right?" (no, the ivy one, moron)

"Its a good school" (no ••••)

"I never heard of it" (ofcourse not,you're a HS drop out)

"you must be very smart" (smile, and pretend to be humble)

"congradulations" (see above reponse)

"I am a recruiter at ITT (community college like), its not too late, let me mail you a packet"
(I actually said this: have you heard of Cornell?)

"i know XXX he was cornell grad" (that's just great, hey you wanna play 7 degrees of separation, i bet we know the president)

"Where is Ithaca?" (left at the stop sign, get on the highway, Interstate 79 than 84, turn right at syracuse and you are there!)

"what are you studying?" (government, then explain its really poli sci)

"my son also wanted to attend, he was rejected" (its a crap shoot, i got lucky)

"I am a Yalie, see you in football" (you think you are so smart don't you! Well Cornell is just as a good!, btw you guys sux at engineering)

By Malicemizer9 (Malicemizer9) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 12:29 am: Edit

"I want to have your babies" (*unzips*)

By Beeblerox (Beeblerox) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 10:19 am: Edit

Engineering is a whole different ballgame. I guess its the best deal. Great program and ivy league prestige.. what more could you ask for.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 10:42 am: Edit

Diceypit=funnymofo

LMAO

By Diceypit (Diceypit) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 09:15 pm: Edit

now noody, if you were only 18 and female. I would take you right now.

By Pigeonblood (Pigeonblood) on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 11:17 pm: Edit

"I would take you right now."
>> Pathetic.

Btw, Cornell is definitely the easiest ivy to get into BY FAR. Only good offerings are engineering (the faculty, not the students are of highest caliber), Hotel, and Agriculture.

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 03:29 am: Edit

I always thought Columbia was the easiest, due to the 80% accept rates in a large number of grad schools. There's not much value in getting an undergrad degree if there are eight times as many grad degrees being printed.

By Cornellhopeful (Cornellhopeful) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 08:55 am: Edit

umm no. The good offerings are everything. Engineering, Hotel, Agriculture, as well as the Arts and Sciences, etc. Cornell is strong in everything, yet stronger in certain areas.

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 09:41 am: Edit

Dicey:"."

(*Noodleman is at a loss for words*)

By Tomonlineli (Tomonlineli) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 10:54 am: Edit

Cornell Stinks.

What's the number to that ITT recruiter. I hope it's not too late!!!! My email is ittorbust@yoohoo.com.

Pigeonblood,
I'm sure you speak from experience. How many of the students have you polled from engineering during your 17 years of pimples and hitting on 15 year olds? I'm sure you've covered the 13,750 current undergrads at Cornell and wrote a thesis entitled: The Results of an Extensive study of Cornell's Undergrad Population by a child who likes killing pigeons. How many of those classes that cover 800+ pages of the course catalog have you sat on to come to the summary that the only program that Cornell offers of any distinction is Engineering. Listen, go back to playing Quake and looking at cartoon porn. You don't belong in Cornell's threads. Your attitude is exactly why so many of us turn down Columbia. Imagine someone turning down Columbia for Cornell. Who would have thunk it????

By Malicemizer9 (Malicemizer9) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 11:11 am: Edit

bwahahaha

owned!!

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 12:14 pm: Edit

Ho snap. That was the shizzle!

By Pigeonblood (Pigeonblood) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 07:01 pm: Edit

Killing pigeons.. yeah, that's really funny. I'm a fish breeder, actually-- maybe you should do a google on "pigeonblood" and see what you come up with; it's actually quite interesting. The task you speak of would be impossible for ANY individual, let alone me. Instead of providing me the herculean tasks on which your argument exists, I suggest you to examine the acceptance rates for Cornell's graduate schools in addition to all the other ivies, which I'm sure you're all too familiar with. I'm sure you'll reach a different conclusion. Perhaps you wouldn't, but I'm sure the vast majority of the cross-admit population would choose Columbia over Cornell, be it engineering or not. Have fun at big red trying to curb your inferiority complex over your "superiors." Meanwhile, your rejection letter from Columbia might go for a hefty sum on ebay when you get famous-- or infamous.

Yours truly, XOXO HTH
-- Pigeonblood

By Madelinemay11 (Madelinemay11) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 07:10 pm: Edit

"the vast majority of the cross-admit population would choose Columbia over Cornell, be it engineering or not"

Actually, the cross-admit figures between columbia and cornell is 50/50, because most of the science and engineering majors tend to pick cornell over columbia, whereas the humanites students go the other way.

By Cornellian (Cornellian) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 07:17 pm: Edit

Look, Cornell is indeed a GREAT school. But there's no denying that it's the easiest Ivy to get into, overall. I don't understand why this is being discussed.

By Stanfordman99 (Stanfordman99) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 07:47 pm: Edit

But of all the lower ivies, Cornell has the best name recognition.

By Diceypit (Diceypit) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 10:32 pm: Edit

Pigeonblood

first your not convincing any one with your empty rhetorics, so maybe you should google the stats first.

Second, with out evidence you come off as elitist and egotistical. hopefully your not

Third, why are you over here at the Cornell board? If you really want to argue go to penn, they love the prestige issue.

Fourth. while you are at it why don't you •••• on Brown too, heck go for easy targets, like Chico State, IUP, $hitty McShit College, The US federal Penitentiary, or the best yet Hitler, then you will feel really good!! I mean how can yo not after Hitler!

BTW, my buudy choose Berk over Columbia.

Yours truly, XOXO HTH
-- Diceypit

By Pigeonblood (Pigeonblood) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 10:55 pm: Edit

Good for you. Too bad you couldn't.

XOXO
HTH

By Diceypit (Diceypit) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 11:07 pm: Edit

"you come off as elitist and egotistical. hopefully your not "

Never mind about that, you don't just come off, you are that!

By Patli (Patli) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 12:08 am: Edit

What does XOXO HTH mean?

By Patli (Patli) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 01:20 am: Edit

haha nevermind... keep the flames burning

By Diceypit (Diceypit) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:17 am: Edit

So what does XOXO HTH mean?

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:31 am: Edit

It's another posting board. I googled it. Meh.

By Tomonlineli (Tomonlineli) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:40 am: Edit

Pigeonblood.
Did you buy your acceptance letter to Columbia from Ebay? Let me remind you, you are the one coming over to Cornell's threads trying to bash the Cornell students in an effort to make yourself feel better.

It's ok though, I feel for you. If I had to settle for going to school in Harlem then I would feel the same way. Oh what??? They didn't tell you that part when you received your letter. The best part of Columbia is jumping over the bums on your way to class. I imagine the ones with shopping carts could pose a problem.

It's not hard to read the numbers and see that Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into. It also has the largest undergrad class. I think UPenn is second with almost 4k less. It doesn't not, however, give some snot nosed child (you) the right to come in here and bash the students that go to Cornell. Don't be a hater just because the only phsyed classes you'll have to choose from are dodging taxis, subway aerobics, and bum jumping.

BTW, I've knew 3 people that went to Columbia from my graduating high school class 6 years ago. One killed herself, and the other two still live with their parents. Goodluck at Columbia....
Really, this whole conversation is getting boring. I'm going to read up on raising fish.

By Patli (Patli) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Diceypit:

Acronym Def
----------------
HTH Hope That Helps
HTH Hope This Helps
XOXO Hugs and Kisses
XO Hug and Kiss

Haha bums... Cornell = hicks

By Tomonlineli (Tomonlineli) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 03:58 pm: Edit

Patli= swtmtohtdsa

swtmtohtdsa = someone with too much time on hands to decipher stupid acronyms

Ha Ha......dork

By Noodleman (Noodleman) on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:25 pm: Edit

By Pigeonblood (Pigeonblood) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 12:17 am: Edit

No, I didn't buy my Columbia acceptance off ebay, you hick. Funny one, though. As far as suicide goes, I don't have to say anymore about Cornell.

HTH

By Jcas323 (Jcas323) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 01:01 am: Edit

Pigeonblood, suicide is not something to joke about, and it does not occur nearly as much as people think at Cornell. However, when it does, it is not something to be made fun of. Have fun at Columbia you pretentious jerk!

By Patli (Patli) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 01:05 am: Edit

LOL Tomonlineli.

How about photoshopping the acceptance letter and response and Columbia thought they made a mistake?

As far as getting shot in a driveby, I dont have to say anymore about Columbia.

HTHTHTHTHTHTHTHTHTHTH...NOONE

HTDHA - Hope that didn't help anybody.

By Isunique17 (Isunique17) on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 05:43 am: Edit

In Asia, at least in where I live (Taiwan), Cornell is much more prestigious than Columbia and is often considered on par with HYP. This is mainly because everyone here is only interested in engineering, which is what Asians are into these days.

By Nopants (Nopants) on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 09:00 pm: Edit

The topic heading is correct, Cornell is a slut.

HTDMS - Hope That Didn't Make Sense