|By Fredmurtz2 (Fredmurtz2) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 07:28 pm: Edit|
Since the subject of Brown's balance between undergraduates and graduates came up. The following schools are listed in descending order of Undergraduates as a % of the student body. I may have missed a stat as this was done rather quickly but Graduate basically includes all Graduate Schools and Professional Schools. If my results are accurate, Brown is the school with the most undergrads as a % of the school.
Undergrads = 76.9%
Grads = 23.1%
Enrollment as of fall 2002 totaled 7,430, with 5,711 undergraduates and 1719 graduates
4,098 Undergrads = 72%
1,585 Grad = 28%
4,635 undergraduates (70%)
1,997 graduate students (30%)
#of Undergrads: 8,587 = 69%
# of Grad students: 3,851 = 31%
Full-time Undergraduate: 9,917 = 52.2%
Full-time Graduate/professional: 8,996=48.8%
Yale College = 5,262 = 46.6%
Yale Grad Schools = 6,031 = 53.4%
Undergraduates - 6,597 = 33.5%
Graduate and professional students - 12,014
Extension - 1,079
Total - 19,638
Undergraduate 7,054 = 30.1%
Health Sciences 2,382
Special Programs & Non-degree Students 2,218/
University Total 23,422
Peace and Good Luck for everyone
|By Brownalum (Brownalum) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 09:31 pm: Edit|
The above is a ridiculous post. Professional schools have (generalizing here - there are certain exceptions, e.g., in the case of arts schools) separate faculties, programs, endowments, etc that have nothing to do with the Arts & Sciences faculty who make up the "university."
In some cases, the faculty and students at these professional schools aren't even in the same city. Cornell's medical school is located three hundred miles away from the rest of Cornell's campus.
All the Ivies (except Dartmouth) have roughly identical numbers of GRADUATE STUDENTS.
|By Sakky (Sakky) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 07:17 am: Edit|
Uh, I think your numbers for Cornell are way off.
|By Gabushida (Gabushida) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 02:38 pm: Edit|
Hrm...his numbers are wrong, but the percentages work out basically the same. Just divide the total number of undergrads by the total number of students (that includes undergrads, grads, and professional school students, which I feel is reasonable to include). The only thing that might be worth removing is the medical school, because its in NYC (actually, the vet school is separate too, I believe). If you removed the medical school students, it would be about 71% undergrad.
|By Brownalum (Brownalum) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 07:11 pm: Edit|
Gabushida, professional school students are not reasonable to include at all. It's like including grad students from USC when counting the number of students at UCLA.
|By Gabushida (Gabushida) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 07:35 pm: Edit|
Its nothing like that. Those are different schools. Its reasonable to include the professional schools because its the same school, and the resources are being used to support it as much as grad and undergrad schools. Just because someone is studying business or engineering doesnt mean they shouldnt be included. They are getting a graduate degree in that area.
|By Humbleservant (Humbleservant) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 05:04 pm: Edit|
Your numbers are wrong. The sizes are as follows
Columbia - 24,000 students
Penn - 23,000 Students
Harvard - 19000 students
Cornell - 18000 students
Yale - ?
Dart - ?
Columbia and Penn are the largest ivies, followed by Harvard
|By Brownalum (Brownalum) on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 07:18 pm: Edit|
Gabushida wrote, "They are getting a graduate degree in that area."
No. They are getting a PROFESSIONAL degree (MD, JD, MFA, Master of Forestry), with separate faculty and in separate facilities from the undergraduate and graduate students. It is not really fair to include them in this kind of undergrad-grad count. With the exception of Dartmouth, all of the Ivies have roughly comparable numbers of undergraduate and graduate students.
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