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can u guys list all the school with BS/MD combined programs? I'm not talkin about one's where you get a BA in something along with your MD, just to make sure. Just the ones where you can take it all at once basically, so you can finish and get your MD degree in 6 or 7 years. thx.

By your local mayor on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 11:15 pm: Edit

check UNC-Chapel Hill.

By Potter on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:02 pm: Edit

Dr. PSedrish, I have a question for you. I was granted an interview for a 7-year medical program and I know that the interviewer will ask me why I am sure that I want to become a doctor this early. I can't think of ideas of what to say. Please give me some feedback on what kind of response is adequate. Thank you so much for your time.

By x on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:49 pm: Edit

Check www.aamc.org/students/applying/programs/collegemd.htm
They have a list you can surf through.

By your local mayor on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:22 am: Edit

Potter, why do you want to become a doctor?

By jaina on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 05:01 pm: Edit

Does anyone know if NYU has a bs/md program? .. i really need to know ... i've been looking on tons of websites and its driving me crazy ... the AAMC list doesnt have half of the colleges and universities on it and i just wanted to know about some places in NY / Conn. that would have the bs/md program ... thank you so much

By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 06:36 pm: Edit

Potter...I'll repost my note here on the interview in case you didn't see it elsewhere:
It may be very hard for "pre-med types" to face a challenge like the interview without a script to study, but alas, there is no script. The purpose of the interview is not to test your knowledge, but rather to assess intangibles such as character and dedication. Most interviewers will keep the tone very friendly and low key, asking open ended questions that will allow you to expound about yourself at will. These folks are bright people and they have seen lots of applicants, so you're not going to fool them. Be well dressed and groomed, relaxed, polite, relatively humble and very honest. Make good eye contact. Stay on point when you're asked a question and try not to ramble. Don't challenge your interviewer with a question for each question they ask you; this sometimes occurs when applicants have been told by someone outside the process that they are there as much to interview the school as to have the school interview them.... that just isn't so.
You will of course be given an opportunity to ask any questions you might have before the interview ends. In general, a comment such as "I don't have any questions at this time but from what I've seen, heard and read, I would really like to come here for Medical School" is worth more than most any question you might ask. Good luck!

By Potter on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:18 pm: Edit

Thank you Psedrish. I had my interview with two medical faculty and I think it went great. I don't know how to tell if it went well. Even if my interviewers laughed/smiled, they still could be thinking that I suck. If I'm bad, they're not going to show that really. So, I don't really know their reactions. I'll find out in a few weeks and will inform you!

By x on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:45 pm: Edit

NYU does have a combined med program, 8 yrs long. It takes very very few ppl though.

By x on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:47 pm: Edit

And the AAMC does have it listed. Did you go under cuuriculum directory, them combined degree programs? There you can search by school and just scroll to NYU. Hope that helps

By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:52 pm: Edit

Potter, it might help others if you posted a synopsis of your interview while it's still fresh in your mind. I wish you the best of luck.

By Sar (Sar) on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:03 pm: Edit

nyu ba/md took 10 out of 400 apps last year.

By your local mayor on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:18 am: Edit

good for them.

By Confused on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 08:43 pm: Edit

How hard is it to get into a bs/md program at berekely, or somewhere around there. I am a freshman and i really want to be a doctor doing this tpe of program. Plz send me some background info if possible on this subject.

By uscfan on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 02:53 am: Edit

Anyone know anything about usc 8 year med?
How hard is it to get in? and can people please post stats. thanks!

By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 06:51 pm: Edit

All BA- or BS-MS programs are extremely competitive. In fact, it would be hard to imagine any college program that could be more difficult to gain admission to than one of these.
They are fairly few and far between, and always limited to a very small number of students. These students are the crème de la crème of all high school students. They must possess not only sterling academic credentials and outstanding recommendations, they must also be judged by an admissions committee to have the advanced maturity to be truly dedicated to a career that at the time of application is a decade or more over the horizon. In short, this is a very tough proposition, but there are people who gain access every year and most of these succeed. They are to be congratulated.

By Ryan on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 11:19 pm: Edit

USCFAN: according to the MSAR the average matriculating student into USCs BS/MD program had a 3.89 GPA and a 1480 SAT.

By Sar (Sar) on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 07:38 pm: Edit

There were nearly 800 apps for NYU BA/MD this year. less than 15 will be accepted. and I will not be among them. *sigh*

By Potter on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 07:55 pm: Edit

that's crazy Sar. It's almost as competitive as PLME and NW's program.

By Ryan on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 10:13 pm: Edit

BA/MD programs are for exceptional young people. Exceptional not just in their grades and ECs but in their commitment and maturity. Being turned down now may be the best thing that ever happened to you. Deciding on medicine this early in your life is something that very few individuals can truly do and the consequences of committing yourself to a life in medicine that you are not 100% ready for are dire. Apply in four more years when you have a little more life experience. It costs you absolutely nothing since most of these programs are still eight years long.

By Sar (Sar) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:41 pm: Edit

could be due to the ease of applying to NYU's prog.--just gotta check a box on the app.
Plus it's right in NYC and a lot of people live around there...

By jaina on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:49 am: Edit

thanks for all of your help ...

By Sarah on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:43 pm: Edit

Hey i know that university of miami has a b.s/md program.. but i was wondering if its any good? and what i should do now (im a sophomore in high school) to do well in the application process to get into a six or seven year program.
Thanks!

By sas on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:09 pm: Edit

i disagree with Ryan--

the consequences of committing to medicine are not "dire" this early b/c u can always drop out of the program...just dont get stuck in a •••••• school with this program

By Ryan on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:03 pm: Edit

The "dire" consequences I am referring to are burying yourself in debt to pay for this education. If you or your parents are wealthy then by all means disregard my post. If however you need to think about how you are paying for college then entering into a less restrictive major or a program that is not so structured would allow you to take a broader load of classes in your first few years and allow you to change majors with minimum time (and money) lost if the desire should hit you.

By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 10:26 am: Edit

sarah: Every one of the BA/MD programs is excellent. To gain admission, you must do extremely well in high school, always taking the most challenging courses available. You should begin studying now for your SAT Is & IIs. Be involved in your school's activities and in those of your community. Grades, discipline, humanity and maturity should be the watchwords. Good luck!

By Sarah on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 11:27 am: Edit

thanks Psedrish Md
i really want to get in but from what im reading it sounds like even the best students dont get in, its really nerve racking

By e on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 11:59 am: Edit

hey guys
im new and i just found this site
i'm in 10th grade and i REALLY want to go to a six or seven year med, but i dont know what to do
im doing the NYLF program next year, and a GW SEAP one, and ive worked with a scientist (sort of) on cancer research for a few weeks last winter.. but otherwise i havent done anything new
i havent taken the SAT yet..but i took a prep one and got 1320
also...im an editor of the newspaper, and i started a mock trial club in school. im also in model un and debate
im just wondering if i really stand out to admissions people (which i probably dont) and what i should do to stand out
i heard alot of people with really great scores get rejected and that really makes me disheartened
any suggestions?
Thanks!

By Psedrish_Md (Psedrish_Md) on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 02:25 pm: Edit

e: I don't want to repeat the things already written on this BB about how to prepare for one of these pgms (or for med school in general), but it certainly sounds as though you're on the right track. At the end of the day, if you've given it your best shot and still you don't get into a combined degree pgm, all is not lost. The traditional route is fine and to my mind offers some distinct advantages over the combined route. Try to keep your stress level low and your mood happy; "pace yourself" is an important concept. If you really want to be a doc, you will be, and if it's a year later, so what? Good luck!