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hey, anybody went to prep or private boarding school? or just know something about them?

name the top ten in terms number of graduate went to Ivies and techies

By Supsup (Supsup) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:50 am: Edit

Cranbrook Kingswood Upper School

By ~the_Chosen~ (~the_Chosen~) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:18 am: Edit

Ecetera? or whatever that was called. Punahou in Hawaii is great also.

I forgot where the National rankings of secondary schools were. But if you graduate from any of these highly ranked schools, your applications to colleges will shine.

By Amylase (Amylase) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 07:01 pm: Edit

thank you guys
appreciate that

U.S. News & Report ranked colleges, where can i find the boarding prep school's ranking?

By Bigred04 (Bigred04) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:26 pm: Edit

Im a current Junior at Phillips Exeter Academy in New Hampshire. After going here for three years, i have a pretty good sense of what the best really are...

Exeter
Andover
Deerfield
St. Pauls

are definatly the top four, ranked in that order.

Other excellent schools:

Choate
Groton
Taft
St. Georges
Kent
Milton
and there are many others...

By Junho (Junho) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:39 pm: Edit

good

By Amylase (Amylase) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:50 am: Edit

Hi! Bigred04,

What are the student body at exeter consist of?

Why do they go to exeter?

By Bhs4life (Bhs4life) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:54 pm: Edit

belmont hill has many harvard acceptances

By Starboard05 (Starboard05) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:57 pm: Edit

the order is actually

andover
exeter
sps
deerfield

By Bhs4life (Bhs4life) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:33 pm: Edit

ya starboard is right

By Rcambrai (Rcambrai) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 04:48 am: Edit

The order is:
St. Paul
Exeter
Scarsdale HS
Bronxville HS
Hunter
Horace Mann
ANdover

By Bitz (Bitz) on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:05 am: Edit

Starboard has it down.

GO BIG BLUE!!!

By Theproducer (Theproducer) on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:00 am: Edit

dude as long as you go to a good prep school in NE you are set..you're college chances won't change just based on what school you went to..it's what you made of it.

By Tangclan (Tangclan) on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 03:40 pm: Edit

screw Exeter, unless you were already exceptionally smart and accomplished, you're still not going to get into college. This year more than ever students are getting rejected. Kids who got 11.0, equivalent to 4.0, in their junior and senior year and are tri-varsity still get rejected from the top: harvard princeton. Going to prep schools will only take time away from your developing exceptional talents.

By Jules07 (Jules07) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:11 pm: Edit

Horace Mann is a DAY school, hence they do not board there. Scarsdale HS is a public school, therefore students must live in the Scarsdale school district to attend. Bronxville is also public, and while Hunter is a top public school, one can only apply (take the test) in kindergarten or 7th grade...

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 01:52 pm: Edit

There's a "New England Prep Schools" message board found under "Pre-College and High School Issues."

I'm headed to Milton Academy this fall. And about the college matriculation rates you're asking, in 5 graduating classes at Milton, 67 ENROLLED at Harvard, 42 at Yale, 59 at Brown...all the rest can be found at this website: http://www.milton.edu/admissions/pages/colMAT.asp

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 02:03 pm: Edit

Also, I found a link posted by Andoverhopeful in one of the other message boards that ranks private day and boarding schools according to the number of graduates they sent to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. Please note the schools differ in the number of students enrolled, so some schools may have larger graduating classes; I don't know if the rankings were based on the PERCENTAGE of kids going to HYP or the actual NUMBER.

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 02:05 pm: Edit

Oops... lol I forgot to post the link. Here it is:

http://www.polytechnic.org/thepawprint/hyplist.htm

By Brickyard (Brickyard) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 09:16 pm: Edit

The numbers posted by Exeter are actual students who were accepted....however, you will not know the additionals such as legacy, development alert, sports, URM etc. I am a prep student and it is an amazing experience you would do well to try applying...admission is difficult to the top schools. Exeter, Andover, Deerfield, Choate, St. Paul's....there are hundreds of preps....

By Wealthyivygirl (Wealthyivygirl) on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 11:03 pm: Edit

OKAY GO BIG GREEN!!

DEERFIELD ACADEMY IS THE BEST SCHOOL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. and by the way, out of a class of 140, here are its matric stats for this year's class

15 harvard
12 yale
9 princeton
9 upenn
5 columbia
11 brown
14 cornell
7 dartmouth

and like EVERYONE else is going to middlebury, williams, bowdoin

but it's not just the high caliber of the students that makes deerfield academy amazing. lemme put it this way, ANDOVER AND EXETER ARE LIKE HARVARD AND YALE, and deerfield is the PRINCETON of boarding schools. way way way smaller, much wealthier, much classier (we have dress code, sit down meals, academy events, etc.--andover and exeter dont).

i love deerfield. i was graduated in '02 and i love it so much. i miss itmore than anything.

By Jules07 (Jules07) on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit

IVY girl - where do you go to college ?
Princeton?

By Andoverhopeful (Andoverhopeful) on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 04:19 pm: Edit

Wow, WealthyIvyGirl, you are quite the moron. First, what is wrong with being the Harvard and Yale of boarding schools ? Second, you act like the brat you are and prance around talking about the wealth of you, your school, or whatever.

By the way, Deerfield has an endowment of approx. $250 million. Andover and Exeter have about $500 million each. Deerfield has 140 students per class, Andover and Exeter have about 250. Lets do the math.

$250 Million/4*140 = .44 Million per student
$500 Million/4*250 = .50 Million per student

Hmm, that's odd. According to you, Deerfield was "Much Richer". I don't think you learned too many math skills at Deerfield.

Class is also high subjective. You cannot simply say one school has more class then another. Also, Exeter does have a dress code, Andover does not (It is one of the reasons I will be going to Andover)

Please, don't force me to make you look stupid again.

BTW, this is not a knock on any deerfield students, it is a great school.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:25 am: Edit

andoverhopeful,

deerfield's endowment is A LOT higher than $250 million. It's more like $380 million. and what i meant by "richer" is the student body is wealthier than those at other boarding schools...and actually, that's a fault of the d.a. admissions office...they could stand to stop admitting every kid with dual legacies and an 7 figure trust fund.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:27 am: Edit

haha my bad, did i say 'an 7 figure trust fund'? i meant to say 'an 8 figure trust fund' (hence the 'an')

sorry im a little out of it today...

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit

Ok those deerfield matric stats are a little off, Deerfield only discloses the matric CUMULATIVE stats for the past 5 years...so here is the average matric per year.

Harvard: 8
Princeton: 6
Yale: 7
Upenn: 10
Cornell: 10
Brown: 14
Columbia: 2

Hmm..so 57 go to ivies out of deerfield..and 14 of those are brown which is considered to be one of the worst ivies. And if thats out of a class of 250..those are not very impressive.

I go to a smaller prep school with equal academics called Concord Academy..and we send more kids to science olympiads, more kids to very well known art/music schools (juliard for instance), and more kids to ivies based on proportion. Our average sat mean for this year was 1380.

In a class of 80..we have about about 40 going to ivy+top 10 us news....and that is high considering most of the kids are art-related, or film related--

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:42 am: Edit

I don't really care to prove my scoool's reputation to you because i could care less if Deerfield thinks it is better than me but quite frankly, I've talked to adcoms from top 25 schools on west coast and east coast and when they hear "concord academy" they just light up.

We have a different academic style than the deerfield, andover shcools--we are more geared towards love of learning...and in the end-- we have more compelling applications...we have many unique things at concord. I doubt it is the right place for most of you on this forum as you are way too reputation-oriented and haven't relaly found the call to the love of learningl...let me tell you, it rox :-). That is why colleges love our school--we are interesting people, and the true future leaders of world--not ones with daddy's with 8 figure trust funds and 500 million dollar endowments.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:43 am: Edit

Deerfield and andover kids ont his board...i've seen ur art curriculum--and let me just say it is a joke.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:45 am: Edit

Also, i'm not trying to say any school is better than the other, but you can go to any of these prep schools adn get into a great education...the SCHOOL does NOT MAKE the person...the school simply guides you along the process smoothly...It is not really what school you went to in high school, its how you took advantage of it. I mean most top colleges still do not accept most of their kids from these prep schools..but we have higher chance...but still, all I'm saying is that there are plenty of well-qualified applicants from non-prep school environments..and some of them will get in over YOU.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:48 am: Edit

After looking over your english department --(at deerfield)--I am also somewhat dissapointed with our course choices for such a large school--concord has double those choices in upper level electives and we are half our size...

And ur history departmnet...i really cannot believe this..US History required of all juniors..LOL all sophomores are required to take US history at my school..and half of them score 5 on the ap (the ap is optional of course).


By the way, what makes you think these schools are better than another?

I would say by academic facilities, curriculum, teachers, student environemtn, campus...and by curriculum you are definitely slacking..

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Dferraro,

IT'S NOT OUT OF A CLASS OF 250, you doofus!!

deerfield has 140 in a graduating class. and you're wrong about those avg. matric stats. i have a sister in the class of 2003 and i know where every single one of them is going to school next year. the stats I have were correct.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:35 pm: Edit

and i hate to break it to you but i live on manhattan's upper east side--nobody on the upper east side goes south of the ivies. we know our stuff and NOBODY NOBODY NOBODY on fifth or park avenue even VISITS concord academy.

what are you smoking???? this is ridiculous. how can even begin to compare a place like Deerfield Academy to concord? the dean of admissions from every top ranked school comes and spends a WEEKEND at d.a. and our headmaster and college counselors basically take them around and introduce them to us and sell us to them.

when my headmaster picks up the phone and calls brown, people listen to him (he was also the dean of admissions at brown for about 5 years, so i guess that helps).


just get over it, dude. there's NOTHING wrong with going to concord, but please admit that it's no in the same tier as d.a.

i went to Nightingale until third grade in manhattan...I'm perfectly happy to admit that Nightingale is much lower ranked than a school like Brearley.

of course...then i transferred to dalton...

anyhoo

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 04:00 pm: Edit

Upenn 06 -- I'm sure you asked all 140 of them--and by the way, i got my numbers straight from Deerfield's website.

And guess what Upenn06..I live at 78th and park..guess what? I go to concord..guess what? I know many kids from my area who have looked at concord...seems like ur very broad inference turned out wrong.

And yes concord is in same field of deerfield..just look at faculty and curriculum -- prolly 2 most important factors..not to mention no one can beat concords historical setting...i mean it is perfect for those woh are interested in US History as opposed to the boondocks of Deerfield.

Oh yah and so what if the MAJORITY of people in new york dont visit CA..i dont really care because i'm glad my school is not full of snot-nosed silver-spoon fed twerps like you...

Not to mention, we do send more kids to better schools proprotionally... hahaha

Oh also, My sister graduated from andover about 5 years ago--She cautioned me from going to andover after she saw concord...She totally wished she went to Concord...She felt that the competitive atmosphere of Andover did not allow her to develop intellectually and also did not give her the extracurricular and artistic opportunities that CA offers. Also, since most kids go to Liberal arts colleges and Techonology schools from CA, there is less competition for the ivies. She wanted to go to Stanford, but settled for Wharton..she feels if she had gone to CA(concor academy) she would've gotten in...

Well from personal experience, her experience, and the adcoms i have talked to--I am very glad with my high school situation--I'm sure deerfield is great but even my sister says that Andover totally makes fun of you guys for being 1(Snobby 2(Sheltered 3(Totally unprepared for college --and by unprepared, it is probably most significant to socially as you will be exposed to diversity like you have never seen.

And actually.....we get plenty of representatives from colleges at our school...in fact this is pretty standard for most prep schools. I'm not even trying to sell here-- this is a pretty normal thing to occurr.

Umm...And by the way upenn06...those average matric stats are perfectly accurate..those are the total marticulations for the past 5 years divided BY 5 to yield the average per year (obviously deerfield does not have a solid maths foundation)....the 2003 matrics are compeltely indepdent of the the LAST (EMPHASIS ON LAST) 5 years of matrics.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 06:17 pm: Edit

DFRARRO,

the stats for the class of 2003 aren't posted yet!!! jeezus do you think i'm just typing fiction here??

give it a rest

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 06:20 pm: Edit

ps dfrarro

if you live at 78th and Park (which I dont think you do), tell me where you went to school in the city before you went to concord.

i'll rephrase: no new yorkers who go to the TOP manhattan prep schools have never heard of concord.if you went somewhere like columbia prep, dwight, allen stevenson, or riverdale, then i can understand how you might've ended up at concord....

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 06:27 pm: Edit

dfrarro lemme help you out with one more little piece of information since you're obviously in total denial of concord's place in the 3rd or 4th tier as opposed to d.a.'s place in the 1st tier:

if you go to boardingschoolreview.com, YOUR SCHOOL ISNT EVEN UP THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And one more thing. The official acceptance rate as of 2001 ( i did an article on this for the paper) was something around 14%. and i'm told that it's only gotten harder to get into since then.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Boarding school review only had like 30 schools..that does not constitute the 30 best --.

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By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 07:04 pm: Edit

Quoting from U.S. News and World Report (May 2001)...hehehe they profiled DEERFIELD...your school wasnt even MENTIONED

"Consider the prestigious Group of Seven in the Northeast--Andover (the oldest, founded in 1778), Choate (1890), Deerfield (1797), Exeter (1781), Hotchkiss (1891), Lawrenceville (1810), and St. Paul's (1856). The schools share and vet one another's admissions and financial information. Their total number of completed applications for the school year beginning last fall was 17 percent higher than it was 20 years ago. Their overall acceptance rate dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent, making them more selective as a group than all but a half-dozen national liberal arts colleges.

The endowment per student at six of the seven schools exceeds that of such Ivy League colleges as Penn, Brown, and Cornell, and five exceed the endowment per student at the prestigious "Little Three"-- Amherst, Williams, and Wesleyan. This allows the seven boarding schools to give financial aid to one third of their students (up 6 percentage points in the past dozen years) with the average grants covering more than 71. 4 percent of tuition, up nearly 5 percentage points in the same time. With schools such as St. Andrew's, Deerfield, and St. Paul's officially making admissions decisions on a "need-blind" basis--that is, without regard to an applicant's ability to pay--and with a number of other schools doing so on a de facto basis, often with even greater outlays of aid, the notion that boarding schools are the preserve of the rich has become obsolete. To the extent that the top schools have a problem with socioeconomic diversity, it often involves attracting students from middle-income families that have trouble qualifying for aid but are hard pressed to pay full freight--a situation that also exists with colleges, which use loans to help make up the shortfall."

if you still think your school is anywhere near the 1st tier, tell it to U.S. news....cry if you have to...it probably won't help, though.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 07:20 pm: Edit

This conversation is futile as even my Andover-alum sister said, Deerfield kids are not only stuck up, but they definitely do not live up to their "prestigious" reputation. I would have been happy at either andover or concord..but i chose concord for the better sense of community, diversity, and better academics. Also, our average class size is the same according to boardingschoolreview.com...and to reinforce..our SAT mean is higher by a whooping 45 points.

And also, deerfield boy, I didn't see any deerfield kids at the physics olympiad this year...i guess you rich kids may have lots of money but you're not smart enough to get to be one of the top 200 physicists in country. i didnt see any deerfiled kids there last year either..too bad concord got 2 in each year--(out of a class of 80).

Here is the link to the lists of top 200 US physics students in the country:

for 2003
http://www.aapt.org/Contests/semifinal03.cfm

for 2002
http://oliver.aapt.org/programs/pt_semis.cfm

Here are the prep schools total student semifinalists for past 2 years:

Andover: 4
Exeter: 4
Choate: 4
St. Paul's:1
Deerfield: ****0****
Concord Academy:****4****
Middlesex:1
Roxbury Latin:2
Groton:0
Milton:0

Remember that Concord is the smallest school of this list by far yet it is tied for 1st with exeter,andover, and choate for most kids who are Physics Olympiad semi-finalists...OH WAIT, what about DEERFIELD? NONE SENT IN THE PAST 2 YEARS? WOW....hmm....concord must still be 3rd 4th tier if it sends a significantly greater number of students to one of hte most competitive competitions in the nation...
hmm

HAHAHAH

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 07:25 pm: Edit

I could care less if you are posted in a magazine...like i said this is all JUST REPUTATION, not necessarily quality--just cuz they are the oldest does not make them the best. FOr instance, the big 7 are like the "ivies" and concord is a place like Stanford.

Anyways, if you were to look at my previous posts with better critical reading (deerfield must have horrible english classes)--you can obviously see concord has a more extensive curriculum.

I could care less what you deerfield brats think about my school, I find it a better learning environment..and our matric and SAT stats show.....look at my post about the art.history/and english curriculum at deerfield.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:37 pm: Edit

"STANFORD??"""

okay i give up. your view of concord is obviously a lot more warped than I thought. the ONLY thing that school has going for it is the current headmaster, Jake Dresden...he was FIRED from the Collegiate School (all boys k-12 ultra prestigious school in manhattan where my little bro goes), but he's actually a great guy and might be able to raise that place up into the 1st tier. but let's recap: your headmaster was FIRED by the Collegiate School and HIRED by concord.

he's a great guy but, again, it's not like ANYONE moves up in the education world by heading for your school. that's another thing you should take into account.

listen dude there's nothing wrong with a school that's not in the top ranks, but PLEASE don't try to compare some 2nd tier (that's the highest tier it could be in) unknown place whose prime was in the 70s (caroline kennedy went there, i know) but has since sunk like a stone. just get over it.

By Jules07 (Jules07) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:40 pm: Edit

I think the Thomas Jefferson H.S. for Sci & Tech beat all of you snot-nosed kids. (in the physics olympiad of course, not in being snobby)

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:12 pm: Edit

Jules07 -- yes you are right--they are best science and math school in the country--I have high respect for that institution.

Get your facts right Upenn06--Jake was not fired from Collegiate..and shut the hell up-- i can definitely tell you are just just jealous of our superior academics and arts. And 2nd tier is like worcester academy and St. ignatious..and they have horrible academics and faculty/facilities compared to Concord.

Can you please stop making innane denigrations of Concord...perhaps all of these attacks are because of your insecurity--I have a feeling you are a very stuck up deerfield girl, i mean your old name was "WealthyIvyGirl"..and now ur new one is the tawdry and ostentatious "Upenn06".

Let me just say that your stats that you posted on the other forum are far from stellar--Before you criticize Concord, why don't you actually come visit rather than just say stuff about it by REPUTATION ONLY...did u not get into it or something? Why else would u have the need to make fun of it so profusely and rather falsely...

It is definietly not a 2nd tier school..If it had inferior academics..why would i choose it over CHOATE, EXETER, ANDOVER, and of course...DEERFIELD---Why? Because it had a better learning atmosphere, and superior academics. Also, deerfield was out of the question ever since i visited it the 2nd time..u guys are so damn snobby and rude.. You have only lived up to your image...all conformist ••••••••--Get a life and learn that reputation is not everything.

Also, you cannot deny that we have a better science department (as physicis is the culmination of high school science) than you...also a much better Arts/Music program -- The art music program is probably the most extensive for a New England Prep school. In fact, CA gets the reputation of being an "art breeding" school. I much prefer that over being "the snobby brat" school. Also, our english and history department has much better course selections and a much cooler faculty (your teachers were so boring during class). LOL and you're kids are capable of taking US History til JUNIOR YEAR..hahah our Us history course is required of sophomores...And that is not an intro course either..it goes beyond the AP Curriculum (most of the kids get 5's). So stop trying to fool yourself by calling Concord 2nd tier...You don't know enough about my school to make unwarranted FALSE criticism. ONCE AGAIN, CONCORD IS 1st TIER -- I am not a stupid guy (i have much better board scores than you), I would not pick an academically-inferior school over a superior one. I got into all the top prep schools, but i chose concord...That should be a RED FLAG to you...Sorry i wasn't a spoiled rich new york kid that only got into deerfield cuz of money...

By Skeewb4287 (Skeewb4287) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:28 pm: Edit

(In the most valley girl, Bel Air, Rancho PV, Upper East Side, Hamptons uppity accent that could possibly be spoken):

Upenn06: Oh my gosh, MY incredibly well endowed prep school is so much better than YOUR outrageously well endowed prep school.

Dferraro: You are SO wrong. MY incredibly well endowed prep school is so much better than YOUR outrageously well-endowed prep school. So there!!!

You both are acting immature and, quite frankly, imbecilic in your futile attempts to convince the other of the superiority of your boarding school. Grow UP!!! Be glad that each of received opportunities beyond most students’ wildest dreams. What difference does a few million in endowments make when you’re already at that level?

Both of you are just uppity snobs with nothing better to do than to brag about your schools and your addresses. Also, I know this could be defined as slumming but, (gasp!) could it be possible that there are excellent colleges other than the Ivies and Stanford? On top of that could it be that the worth of a high school may not be measured by the number (or percentage) of grads going to the Ivies? (faints)

But in all seriousness, it may be your daddy’s money, and connections, that have gotten you this far. You are both probably very intelligent and have high GPAs and SATs, but don't be absurd to say that money and connections have not been a factor. Money, the affirmative action for the rich.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:31 pm: Edit

Skeewb, I'm TOTALLY WITH YOU--BUt My school is not rich-- we are NON-PROFIT. We put all of our money into our academics and the facilties and faculty---which is why I like the environment so much, you can definitely tell where are our tuition is going..I'm asking Upenn06 to see that there is more behind reputation--Where did i ever say that I flaunt my money around? I do not--in fact i do not ask my dad to help me in any way--i do not put down his oppucation on applications...but "WealthyIvyGirl" (upenn06's alias onanother foruM) obviously wnats to flaunt her affluence, she even said "let me assure you, that You know my family" --ugh how disgusting...i can feel the vomit coming

By Boredguy (Boredguy) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 11:45 pm: Edit

Frankly, if you want to get into an ivy, go to a new york city private school. Our acceptance rate to the ivies is higher than that of any of the previously mentioned schools. And by the way, we give scholarships to outstanding students who can't afford the $20,000 cost. Deerfield is hyped, so is Andover, they arent the best "deal".
Out of around 250 people we had

Harvard—24
Yale—18
Columbia—16
Brown-15
Williams—15
University of Pennsylvania—14
Princeton—13
Dartmouth-8
Wesleyan—8
Vassar—7
Oberlin—6
Skidmore-6
Vanderbilt—6
Georgetown—5
Amherst—3
Cornell—3

That's about a 40% acceptance rate to the ivies alone.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:04 am: Edit

dferraro,

i just give up. i strongly encourage you to seek counseling or something...this inferiority complex is really serious...for real, dude.

I also just love how stupid your comments have been. did it occur to you that we just structure the course of study differently so that that JUNIOR YEAR TERM PAPER (which is a diploma requirement of the academy that goes back centuries) intercedes with United States history students??
Another point: most prestigious private schools in America make u.s. history a junior year tradition. I have great friends at Harvard-Westlake, Sidwell Friends (where Chelsea Clinton went in d.c.), NCS, Dalton, Horace Mann, and every TOP RANKED boarding school and NONE OF THEM take u.s. history in sophomore year because they have OTHER REQUIREMENTS to fulfill.

"I'm not a stupid guy (I have much better board scores than you)."

um let's see how do i even begin to respond to this. let's remember that I am a COLLEGE FRESHMAN:
a) I have a book deal
b)I have an editorial contract at a major national newspaper that goes into effect in September
c)i run a regional campaign for a very well-known 2004 presidential candidate

when you're a college frosh and you have stuff of that nature on your resume, PLEASE let me know. because afterall, if you can score a couple of points higher than me on boards, you must be smarter and your crappy 2nd tier (at best) school must be better than poor little Deerfield Academy.

i hope that one day, i can be as smart as you, and as successful. and one more thing: i was accepted at Andover, Exeter, Deerfield, and Hotchkiss...but gee concorde just didn't make it onto my list...sorry...

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:21 am: Edit

We also do a 11-13 page term paper in sophomore year, i guess our faculty thinks we are smart enough to do it earlier than you.

Hmm...you must take a real easy major at Upenn if you can run a regional campaign and write a book during hte academic year--must be a very insipid book and a petty job at the campaign office. Did it ever occurr to you that maybe those credentials were only due to your daddy's money?

Once again, i was not saying that concord should be on ur app list but i am saying that i applied to it with the same bunch as you and during a much more competitive year and got into all the same schools as you...you're opinion is EXTREMELY biased --i have seen all those schools in detail and wile i think they are ALL VERY SIMILAR in quality..there were many more pro's at concord than at deerfield you stuck up litlte twerp.

There is more to life than being scucessful, but deerfield teaches you to be a money-driven ambitious psycho, you'll go to hell someday and realize that hte 80 years on this planet were spent insignificantly--on any day, i rather be a proud graduate from 1st tier concord, and live a happy life free of Deeerfield psychos.

I'm not alon ein this opinion, many kids hate you deerfield brats...you have a VERY BAD reputation--

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:25 am: Edit

Oh also, in the past 2 years, two of our term papers have been published in the concord review, the only publisher of High School Essays in the country...didn't find ONE deerfield alum in that list...

I guess deerfield sux at history and physics...

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:26 am: Edit

"you're opinion is EXTREMELY biased"

hmm i guess concorde (sorry i spell it with an 'e'; THE concorde is the only concorde in my life didn't teach you guys a whole lot of umm ENGLISH cuz you just wrote the following:

"you are opinion is EXTREMELY biased"

"you're" is you are
YOUR is the one you wanted...close though

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:28 am: Edit

Its called a typographical error...and they occurr quite frequently on internet posts--nobody is trying to be formal ..,ugh yet another example of your deerfield arrogance and snobbieness "the concorde if the only concorde in my life"...stupid snobby bitch...i hope u burn in hell.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:28 am: Edit

okay that's it

DEERFIELD SUX AT HISTORY AND PHYSICS??!?!??~?


The History Department at Deerfield is one of THE most highly regarded high school departments AROUND THE WORLD. Educators from all over the globe come to the Academy just to sit in on our history classes and see how the masters teach.

and by the way, I DOUBLE MAJOR in History and Political Science at Penn, so NO, my majorS are not easy.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:30 am: Edit

Then those job offerings must be impossible to fulfill, i guess they are just that, "offerings." Well you may say they have this "highly regarded" deparment....who says this? Where is ur evidence? I would imagine such a good history department would at least have one kid who writes an exemplary term paper able to be published in the concord review, andover choate and concord are published..why not deerfield?

Andover, choate, exeter, and concord all tied in numbers they send t o Physics olympiad..where is deerfield?

By the way, do you have an AIM screenname?

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:31 am: Edit

dferraro let's work on something else for a bit, shall we?

you say you live on 78th and Park...what nursery school did you attend?

i'm betting you don't even live in New York City.

By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:31 am: Edit

I just moved to new york last year from london, england...

By Lancelot69 (Lancelot69) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:31 am: Edit

i think it's hilarious that you guys spend so much money on private boarding schools in hopes of getting into an ivy league. no wonder you all lack personalities. i go to a public high school in ohio, i'm not a URM or a legacy or rich. Yet i got into Harvard, MIT, Yale, UPenn, Columbia, Stanford and Duke. All i paid for my education was the cost of a few supplies and maybe a couple of bucks in overdue fines at the public library. get a life, all of you. but first, look into getting a personality...

By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:33 am: Edit

BhS4Life, do you have stats on belmont hill? I'm curious...

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:42 am: Edit

dferraro, i'm most familiar with most of the private secondary schools in the London area. please, by all means, tell me where you attended school before moving here. Finally, i'm still having trouble believing YOU live on 78th and park. so since you brought it up, please offer some sort of proof. that's all i ask. for example, you must know the neighborhood somewhat well...name some important buildings betw. 78th and 87th on park....give me the name of a temple and the name of a church.

i'm waiting.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:49 am: Edit

also dferraro

i just created an alias aim screen name

EDITED

feel free to im me

By Johnamherst (Johnamherst) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 04:54 am: Edit

Upenn whatever, if you have a book deal, running a regional campaign, whatever else, why the hell are you on college confidential arguing over prep schools. Aren't you in college? Are you ever going to escape this crazy nostalgia trip you're having over your high school and get a life?

By Jules07 (Jules07) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 01:18 pm: Edit

That was well said JohnAmherst...I was wondering the same thing.

By Jules07 (Jules07) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 01:18 pm: Edit

That was well said JohnAmherst...I was wondering the same thing.

By Critical (Critical) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 11:26 pm: Edit

You guys need to stop fighting. I am homeschooled now because I have lupus, but before I became ill, I attended Groton. I have most definitely heard of Concord Academy- it is a great school. Yes, Deerfield is a great school, I know a lot of people who have graduated from there and loved it. Deerfield students are known for being bright and ambitious. Concord Academy students are known as being BRAINIACS!! When I was interviewing boarding schools, I was told that if I wanted a really really rigorous curriculum, I should check out Concord. My sister was accepted to all the top boarding schools- St. Paul's, Exeter, etc, etc. St. Paul's informed her that her application was the best they had read in years- she had straight A+ and 99%SSATs. She chose Taft because she thought it was a better fit- she is number one in her class now and socially very happy. Rather than becoming consumed with prestige, she chose the school with which she felt the most comfortable. Penn06, just because one school may be ranked above another or deemed "more prestigious" by the public, does not necessarily mean that members of the student body are smarter, more talented, or in any ways superior to students attending other prep schools. I am both surprised and shocked that a Penn freshman is capable of displaying such immaturity. Life lesson- not all people are as shallow as to determine their future based upon an institution's perceived "prestige." GROW UP!

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 03:47 am: Edit

"Penn06, just because one school may be ranked above another or deemed "more prestigious" by the public, does not necessarily mean that members of the student body are smarter, more talented, or in any ways superior to students attending other prep schools."
-Critical

Critical,
All I was saying was that Deerfield is considered to be a more highly ranked school than Concord. That's all! deferarro wouldnt even acknowledge THAT.

By Joshforfun (Joshforfun) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 08:29 pm: Edit

Upenn06,
Are you this Emily Cromwell?

"Hey. I'M Emily. My dream of 'N Sync is having them come to my best friends birthday party!She LOVES (I mean LOVES) you guys if there was anything she would want she would want to see you. Every wall of her room has pictures of J.C and Justin ALL OVER THEM. If there is any way you could come, write her at JalCat1. Please I'm begging you that's all I want.I'm also going to be writing to you."

It seems you believe even NSYNC will bow to you. I sense a trend.

By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 09:08 pm: Edit

i'll say it again. emily cromwell is an alias. my first name isnt emily and my last name isnt cromwell.

but u can think that if you want!

By Joshforfun (Joshforfun) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 01:54 am: Edit

From where does the "emmie" come?

By Londoner (Londoner) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 03:18 am: Edit

Upenn06,

I'm not trying to side with anyone here (it's not my place, nor do I really care) but if you do all that stuff you listed above (campaign help, journalism etc.) AND you're a freshman at UPenn...how do you have the time to argue here?

By Harvardmom (Harvardmom) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

One thing is immediately apparent from ALL postings by upenn06. Certainly, no human being should follow either the academic or life path of this miserably unhappy individual. I'd recommend Deerfield Academy do something to shut her up as
she is steering scores of potential students away!

By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

My brother went to Concord, he is now at Stanford--One of my ex-friends was from deerfield, he was cool, before he went to deerfield. By the way, most of the stuff i saw dferraro say is right--Upenn06, i think u are lying because you said that u are a freshman at penn yet u have a book deal, run a campaign etc.

By Mzinn (Mzinn) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:57 pm: Edit

wow... skimming through this thread makes me proud of my public school education.

By Bn37 (Bn37) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 04:10 pm: Edit

>>I have great friends at Harvard-Westlake, Sidwell Friends (where Chelsea Clinton went in d.c.), NCS, Dalton, Horace Mann, and every TOP RANKED boarding school and NONE OF THEM take u.s. history in sophomore year because they have OTHER REQUIREMENTS to fulfill.<<

I went to Horace Mann and American History is required in Sophomoe year. Dalton requires it too, not sure about the others.

By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 04:13 pm: Edit

my brother (who went to concord) took it sophomore year and got a 5--..i think its required there for sophomores--i think thats what dferraro said -- Hey dferraro, what is ur AIM, i wonder if u know my bro.

By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 04:22 pm: Edit

I just have something to say about this post. You people sit there and brag about how much money you have, how your school is better because you're richer, how you can pay your way to being admitted to ivy's. You prove that you are the snobbiest people ever- in the real world, no one is going to want to deal with you. My god, your parents sent you to boarding school. Sure you can say that it's because you're rich and this is a great school, but the fact is your parents could handle getting rid of you at age fourteen or whatever. I just find it laughable.

By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Pisces, I think the person who was attackign was Upenn06--dferraro was merely defending his school, i mean upenn06 called concord a tier4 school..where it is obviously tier1.

By Pinkflamingo (Pinkflamingo) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:44 pm: Edit

Holy crap pisces! I went to Groton a few years ago and the reason I went was not becuase I was rich ( I received lots of scholarship money) or because my parents couldnt handle me (we got along really well and I had to convince THEM to let me go). I went because of the tradition and the education, I mean living at a school where former presidents and some of greatest minds of our century went is amazing. I did go to a public highschool for a year in California and in no way did it compare to the experience i had at boarding school, my friends, teachers, and the education I received at Groton were the most amazing gifts I could have ever received. I hope that just because a couple of rich losers that happened to go to deerfield and concord don't discourage others from applying to boarding schools... and that not only rich kids go to these schools, A LOT of kids at Groton were on financial aid and i knew i wouldn't have been there if I wasn't.

By Pinkflamingo (Pinkflamingo) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:47 pm: Edit

Holy crap pisces! I went to Groton a few years ago and the reason I went was not becuase I was rich ( I received lots of scholarship money) or because my parents couldnt handle me (we got along really well and I had to convince THEM to let me go). I went because of the tradition and the education, I mean living at a school where former presidents and some of greatest minds of our century went is amazing. I did go to a public highschool for a year in California and in no way did it compare to the experience i had at boarding school, my friends, teachers, and the education I received at Groton were the most amazing gifts I could have ever received. I hope that just because a couple of rich losers that happened to go to deerfield and concord don't discourage others from applying to boarding schools... and that not only rich kids go to these schools, A LOT of kids at Groton were on financial aid and i knew i wouldn't have been there if I wasn't.

By Pinkflamingo (Pinkflamingo) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:52 pm: Edit

Also, Upenn06, Groton is 100 times better than deerfield. I got into Deerfield and didnt think it was too hot. here are some groton stats from the bboarding school review:
* One of the brightest student bodies among secondary schools in the US - average SAT score of senior class leads all other boarding schools, averaging 1360
* 3 most popular college destinations are Harvard, Brown, and Princeton - 5 of the top 10 most popular college destinations are ivy league schools
* Relatively small student body (340 students) offers unique opportunity for close faculty interaction - 4:1 student/teacher ratio is one of the lowest among all boarding schoos
* Very high endowment (approximately $190MM) given an enrollment of 340 students (compared to Choate, for instance, who has a $180MM endowment for 850 students)
* Strong church influence in student life -- Groton students gather in the Chapel four morning each week to discuss topics posed by student and faculty speakers; Groton openly encourages students to explore the spiritual dimension of their lives
* One of the most expensive boarding schools to attend - tuition for boarders costs more than all other schools, reaching $32,160
* Named one of 20 outstanding coeducational boarding schools by US News and World Report (2001)

and
Ten Most Popular College Choices for Grotties
Harvard (36) (# students enrolling: 1998-2002 ) Brown (24) Princeton (23) Yale (21) Georgetown (19)Duke University (13)Vanderbilt (13)Middlebury (12)Dartmouth (10)Trinity College (10)

eat that Deerfield! I have no animosity towards dfererro though so concord academy rules in my book even though i wouldnt necessarily have wanted to go there.

By Pinkflamingo (Pinkflamingo) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 07:48 pm: Edit

Oh yeah and for my finale to drive deerfield into the ground:
Ten Most Popular College Choices for Deerfield kids
UPenn (14) (# students enrolling: 2001-2001 ) Brown (13) Georgetown (12) Harvard (8) Middlebury (7)Colby (6)Tufts (5)University of Vermont (5)Williams (5)Yale (5)

hahahahahaha
Groton has about half the kids Deerfield does and we got 12 into Harvard last year... tsssk tssk upenn06.. check your facts before talking about how awesome deerfield is... i mean at least have some modicum of humility when professing your prep school's superiority.... or you're gonna get burned.

By Pisces (Pisces) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 10:22 pm: Edit

Okay i take back that you ALL brag about your money. It just seemed like there were more before i realized UPenn06 and WealthyIvyGirl were the same person. The rest of you are okay.

WealthyIvyGirl-
"ANDOVER AND EXETER ARE LIKE HARVARD AND YALE, and deerfield is the PRINCETON of boarding schools. way way way smaller, much wealthier, much classier (we have dress code, sit down meals, academy events, etc.--andover and exeter dont)."

UPenn06
"i'm most familiar with most of the private secondary schools in the London area. please, by all means, tell me where you attended school before moving here. Finally, i'm still having trouble believing YOU live on 78th and park. so since you brought it up, please offer some sort of proof. that's all i ask"

You can see where i was coming from though, especially if there were actually two of them...

By Pinkflamingo (Pinkflamingo) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:43 pm: Edit

I totally agree with you on that pisces, those guys are snobs, but not ALL of us are. Also there are plenty of snobby publicschool people and you can't judge a group by it's worst

By Xiggi (Xiggi) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 01:08 pm: Edit

The funniest line of Upenn06 must be:

>> c)i run a regional campaign for a very well-known 2004 presidential candidate <<

It is funny because it must be for a member of the Democratic Party. In her posts, Upenn06 demonstrates such humility and such a sense of reality that she must be a staunch democrat. /sarcasm off!

Meeting her at a dinner party must be everyone's nightmare.

By Jellybean4 (Jellybean4) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 02:16 pm: Edit

I don't know what all the discussion is for, both schools pale in comparison to schools like Le Rosey, and Tasis. There just isn't room for comparison- Swiss boarding schools have, and always will be, the best.

By Bjturlington (Bjturlington) on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Andover, Exeter, Groton, Choate-Rosemary Hall, Hotchkiss, Deefield, St. Albans, Lawrenceville, Harvard-West Lake, and....hmmm.

By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:50 pm: Edit

Upenn06, I agree with a lot of stuff dferraro is saying and disagree with stuff what you are saying. If you have noticed on the high school forum...a lot of people recognize Concord as a great school, and i think one on this thread as being as one of the most rigorous academic environments.

If you would like to chat a bit about it, I have some free time, my brother is a senior there and he is going off to stanford in the fall.

By ~the_Chosen~ (~the_Chosen~) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:07 pm: Edit

What's up with some U Penn people and their pathetic elitist attitude?

By Montydsw11 (Montydsw11) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:24 pm: Edit

Hey guys... want to know a High school that is better than ALL those?

TJ High School in Fairfax VA. I go there, and we are the #1 HS in the country, and win EVERY science and math competition. Going to a boarding school means you have money, not brains.

By Rob (Rob) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 01:32 am: Edit

yo montydsw11, i went to a model un conference a couple years ago at upenn, and the number of ppl from TJ hs were amazing! Some of the ppl from that school with whom I interacted w/ were also quite interesting. So I guess its not just math/science.

By Coolcollegekid (Coolcollegekid) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 04:17 am: Edit

upenn06, please tell me your last name and who your dad works for (lol, i bet he's like a manager of a local blockbuster or something and you dont even go to upenn, which, by the way, is a hell hole anyway.)

By Dwayne_Hoover (Dwayne_Hoover) on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 10:59 am: Edit

Monty, it is best for science and math..and I agree, i wish i kinda went there, but these prep schools offer english/history/foreign language and just college prep experience better than TJ high. THey are more well-rounded schools, because many prep schools send a lot to physics/math olympiads as well--remeber they do not specialize in math.science--

And while I'm sure TJ's english/history academics are great, these prep schools probably offer the best in English and history as a highschool--and actually most of them have about 30% on financial aid, and most of the kids there are really smart, while money helps at schools like deerfield and groton...more of the other prep schools are modernizing.

By Ineza (Ineza) on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 10:36 am: Edit

ppl Ive researched about ALL these schools adn found out that ALL of them aer exellent schools.. diffrent in many ways but they are all Exceptional schools.. it is absurd the way you are all fighting... these schools are exellent and u should all be gratefull that u attended one of these not be fightin over which one is better..

By Sk47 (Sk47) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 06:59 pm: Edit

To all you kids who went to public schools, thomas jefferson included, you may have gotten into better colleges than those who went to prep schools, but BY NO MEANS are you as educated. The difference between prep schools and public schools cannot be judged by differences in salary, or such; prep schools put you in a higher educational class, and that is the fundamental difference, and why parents pay so much, or kids on fin. aid work so hard.
On a different note, i agree with the exeter/andover/deerfield to harvard/princeton/yale comparison, I just want to point out, yale and princeton, or even caltech for that matter may be ranked above harvard from time to time, but harvard is still HARVARD, and is in a class all alone because of its historic and enduring standards of excellence. just like Exeter, and that's why ranking other schools above it, even if it is temp. the case, is irrelevent.

By Dschnapps (Dschnapps) on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 11:00 pm: Edit

Hmmm, Maybe you get a better education, but if you come out a stuck-up piece of •••• with no interpersonal skills then I guess it was all wasted.

I think it's funny how everybody talks about how a student body is brilliant and how its SAT average is 1360. Wow, SO impressive considering most have you have enough money to buy Princeton Review.

A good student can make a public high school education a more fruitful experience than your average douchebag at a boarding school.

I seriously agree with harvardmom that good students come on here and will be turned off to the whole private school scene and especially Deerfield based on the special and "refined" elitist attitude of UPenn06.

You're getting a book published...with that kind of idea quality and immaturity? You do a discredit to the people and schools which you supposedly represent.

I thought the kind of things you're talking about only happened in bad TV shows...reminds me of the movie Cruel Intentions.

I have too much pity for you to bear any ill will towards you but given your attitude I don't think you'll ever escape from the mire of self-admiration and classist obsession.

Anyway, wasting my time

By Sk47 (Sk47) on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 01:07 pm: Edit

Correction: The student body at Exeter, or any other such school, is not necesarily brilliant, at least when compared to other good schools, including certain public schools, such as Thomas Jefferson. I believe TJ has a greater proportion of national merit finalists than most prep schools, if board scores mean anything to you.

The attitude expressed by many on the subject of boarding schools, with exceptions of insipid 14 year olds like UPenn06 (whose presentation is nothing I identify with) is not elitist. The seclusion comes from the fact that kids who go to prep schools represent a small minority of people who care, or whose parents care, about the value of education. College has become simply a degree, or an expensive trade school. Very few colleges have substantial liberal arts requirements for their students, because schools are becoming more and more technical and career-focused as they become more competitive. A solid liberal arts education is what determines this "educational caste system" that I refer to. The type of education that one gets at such a school has nothing to do with how good a student is; even the "average douchebag" as you put it is in an environment where they are subject to an essential type of education that is becoming increasingly esoteric.

People think the pride people have in their boarding schools is pride in "how rich their parents are" or "how much money they can spend and you can't"; I want to correct that: for many, the pride is the fact that they value a part of education that is dimishing in this country, at a huge loss to other, not so fortunate, students.

By Dschnapps (Dschnapps) on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 07:11 pm: Edit

Although I respect and believe your opinion that many who go to private schools are not elitist, I strongly disagree with this statement:

"The type of education that one gets at such a school has nothing to do with how good a student is"

First, if a student isn't motivated and doesn't apply him/herself, it doesn't matter what is being taught in the classroom

Secondly, even though prep schools are a nice advantage for those that can afford them and such schools do have more resources, a devoted student can get a high quality education, liberal arts based or otherwise, at a pretty good public high school.

My previous post was not an attack on the idea of private school but on elitists who think that "breeding" and what school you went to determines your quality of education and the quality of your person.

To think that people (and their parents) that attend public school don't value education is ludicrous. The most common reason is that these families don't have the money or connections to be able to attend. Another reason that many families opt not to send their kids to prep school is to avoid the snotty snobbery engendered by *some* in the prep school crowd and to make sure their kids are balanced and ready for the real world.

By the way, Sk47, my post wasn't at all in direct response to yours and I think you're rather a decent guy as posters go so you didn't have to defend all your points as if I was attacking them.

By Bhs4life (Bhs4life) on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 04:42 pm: Edit

"The real world." Haha what real world? If there is such a thing.

By Dschnapps (Dschnapps) on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 12:25 am: Edit

Ok, that was a useless comment. If you'd like to explain yourself great.

The real world I was referring to is the one where you actually have to work and achieve things, and where you attain success through merit and not your dad's money.

Also a public high school often provides a setting of socioeconomic/racial diversity that isn't necessarily available in an elite prep school

A real world where you must be able to have effective interactions with many people from different backgrounds, experiences, and educational levels.

Again, nothing against the concept of a private school with a driven, liberal-arts based curriculum, but it seems that many of the people that such schools produce are not ready to interact effectively with people without pissing them off. This is just my limited observation from this message board and a few people I know; I could be way off; feel free to answer but preferably with an intelligible response.

By Bhs4life (Bhs4life) on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 02:16 pm: Edit

yes, I think you are way off. One must work hard in anything to achieve things. Thats not the real world, it's merely a fact of life. Also private schools can be more diverse then many public schools. The real world you talk about isn't so real. It's just another step in life, that of which is no more real than the other step.

By Exonian04 (Exonian04) on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:08 pm: Edit

"Also a public high school often provides a setting of socioeconomic/racial diversity that isn't necessarily available in an elite prep school."

The above statement is entirely untrue. Most (if not all) high-quality prep schools have greater diversity than any public high school.

Think about it. The public hs is confined to one geographic area, whereas the prep can take kids from anywhere.

30% of the kids at Exeter are "students of color." <<That's just racial diversity, the socioeconomic diversity is even greater.

By Sunbreeze (Sunbreeze) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:28 am: Edit

Do any of the boarding schools provide a business education? I'm assuming none would be required, but possibly electives. If some do, which boarding school has the best business education? Which encourages and promotes student businesses? Which is the most pro-capitalism? Which is the most anti-capitalism?

By Willfaber (Willfaber) on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:00 am: Edit

Jellybean makes a good point about Le Rosey and Tasis.

But the best (and worst?) boarding schools in the world are not in Switzerland, they are in the UK.

By Exie (Exie) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:23 am: Edit

Jellybean et all,

My father, brother, and two uncles all attended Le Rosey. My sister, myself, and 10 other family members over the last century attended Exeter. While Rosey was at one time a pretty good school, it caters more to the wealthy children of Europe, rather than those who are the most academically qualified. In the past, Exeter also perhaps gave grater weight to the wealth of its student body, but that is certainly no longer the case. The reason why all these postings keep talking about how their schools are better than Exeter or Andover is because whether people want to admit it or not, everyone knows that these two are the best. It is for that reason that they keep bringing up the same schools to lambast. As a side note, Andover students need to stop trying so hard to assert their superiority over Exeter. They are only drawing attention to what in their heart of hearts they already know, Exeter is the alpha of boarding schools and always has been. Andover is an excellent school, but it does not trump Exeter. It is second place, but second place is not first place.

As for the posting: "Going to prep schools will only take time away from your developing exceptional talents" That is truly the stupidest thing I have EVER heard said about boarding schools. What better way to develop your talents than to have every single resource you could imagine in your wildest dreams surrounding you, afforded by that $500 million endowment. No matter what your interests are, at a school like Exeter I can safely say you will have more opprtunities to explore them, at an incredible level, than you would anywhere else.


GO BIG RED!!!! (remember by the way that Exeter's color is red b/c it was a feeder for Harvard, and Adover's color is blue b/c it was a feeder for Yale. While Yale is an excellent school, we all know that Harvard is number one. The situtation betweeen Exeter and Andover is perfectly analogous).

By Sockoclaw (Sockoclaw) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:40 am: Edit

ST. Andrews School is one of the best boarding schools in the country, thats where im going this fall, just go to boardingschoolreview.com and see the evidence for yourself. We are one of the richest schools with one of the highest endowmens per student in the country, that is on par with exeter, we have high ssat scores, we have over 2,500 achers of land, about 87 percent of our faculty holds master degrees or higher in thier subjects, and thats only third to taft, plus the small student body (277) provides the optimal learning enviorment. The campus is beautful, mayber on par with Lawerencville's (sign of respect) it was where the movie "Dead Poet's Society" was fillmed. Im surprised no one has mentioned it. ST. Andrews!!!!

By Hotkoko123 (Hotkoko123) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:29 am: Edit

Brearley is a private school in Manhattan and it ranked #2 on Worth Magazine's Top 100 HYP "Feeder" Schools. You can see the college destinations of the graduating students 1999-2003: http://www.brearley.org/college.htm

By the way, it's definitely better than Nightingale. It's usually considered the top all-girls private school in New York.

By Exonian06 (Exonian06) on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 09:23 pm: Edit

I think this is getting a little ridiculous. All of you are simply promoting your own school. From my username, you can obviously tell that I go to Exeter. Generally however (to get back on topic), Exeter is known as the dork or academic school. Andover is known as the jock or sport school. And St. Paul's is known as the arts school.

Anyways, to become biased again...GO BIG RED! 44-0, we creamed Andover's football team.

By Exonian04 (Exonian04) on Friday, December 26, 2003 - 12:40 am: Edit

I disagree with my fellow Exonian on this one.
Exeter is actually known for having students who excel at sports AND academics, and the same goes for Andover. I never knew St. Paul's to be particularly artsy, in fact it seems the most conservative of the three.

By Jmdearing85 (Jmdearing85) on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 08:22 pm: Edit

Hey!
Guess what I am 18 I go to a PUBLIC SCHOOL (all the ivy kids reading this just passed out... how dare i be included into their conversation) I live in Northern Virginia in the wait get this 2nd richest county in the nation (gasp)BUT I wouldn't apply to an "Academy" if asked and I wouldn't toss around how I am better than everyone else because my school (get this) recieves more acceptance letters than any other into UVA .. BUT WHO CARES thats small town RIGHT? But please let me just say this,
If i was rich and went to ANY of the great schools you listed I wouldn't be wasting my education and money sitting on the computer arguing about it. I would be out there with some grant or daddy's money changing the world, making it a better place for future NON-rich kids to live in. Why? becuase just think if one school spent $44mil. on a single student, how many countries in Africa or Islands, or women in the Indias that money could help. My school spent a grand total of....dadada $8,000 on me this year!!! and I believe my well rounded NOT PERFECTED Public educated mind will do wonders in the real world. Just promise me kids at least ONE of you will read this and say "you're right, and maybe you'll go talk to your school and help them fund scholarships for intercity educations, look at it this way, your education was worth probably an entire counties budget!!!

By Yale06 (Yale06) on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 10:21 pm: Edit

If its possible to get through the fog of over rated, pretentious new england schools,.... one will find The Hill School to be at the top of the real list. There is an association of prep schools called the Ten Schools. These are schools which have been at the top of their game for over a century. The Hill School is one of those names. Investigate for yourself: http://www.thehill.org

By Babygurl89919 (Babygurl89919) on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 05:27 pm: Edit

The Hill School the best school....thats a good one. I agree with you about the Ten Schools but Hill is by no means at the top of that list. I considered Hill for a time as my godparents live in Pennsylvania, but their serious lack of girls' sports forced me to rule them out.

By Disbemickey (Disbemickey) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:31 am: Edit

HAHA WOW! Ever since everyone started to ridicule the Upenn06 girl she just hasn't responded anymore..lol. oh and what happened to the Concord guy??? Well i got a Public School (La Canada High School) and i have to say i much prefer going to a public school and being able to live more freely and to interact with a large diversity of students without having to meet students from other schools. Also, i don't mind it much because LCHS is one of the top public hs in the nation. We have won the National Blue Ribbon award and the California Distinguished School award (not to brag)=)...LOL it's quite pathetic how i got a public school and try to interact with people who went to private schools, prep schools, and boarding schools who are now at ivy's..lol well i don't really care much is cool i guess. all i want to say is it don't matter where the hell you really go as long as you work hard and really try to take advantage of what someone is trying to teach you and you'll succeed in your life no matter what school you go to. Yes, going to a good school helps a little bit because the colleges know and probably think, " oh look, this student attended (a good school). That school is one of the most challenging schools and he got a 4.3 GPA" So what! just because you may not go to the best and most prestigous school don't give up! Well anyways i have to go. bye!