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By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:07 pm: Edit

Ok, i applied at:
*denotes acceptance
*Cornell
Columbia
Harvard
Yale
Brown
Dartmouth
Upenn
*Carleton College
*Colgate
Bucknell
*SUNY Albany
*SUNY Binghamton

So far I feel like i am going to be hurting the college by lowering the aceptance percentage of all but 1.

By Topcat (Topcat) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:53 pm: Edit

What's the point of this post.

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:58 pm: Edit

Wow, and I thought my applying to 10 was extreme, but you've got me topped by 2. But seriously, now that you've applied to all those schools, don't you feel like you only want to go to maybe half of them? I do.

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:06 pm: Edit

well it depends more on financial aid, my parents can only contribute 2k to my education yearly as evaluated by the fafsa, which means i will be comparing aid packages for most of those schools

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:41 pm: Edit

Yeah, that's actually been the worst part of the whole charade.......getting the aid forms filled out. At this rate, I'll have to defer for a year just to get the forms filled out. I think that if you don't get enough aid from a school, you can call the Financial Aid office and argue. One of my friend's mom did this when the family contribution for both daughters (they go to the same school) was higher than the amount their mom makes all year. Plus, I figure if I go to a top school, I'll be making big bucks when I have a job....so, I'm not that worried if I have to take a lot out in loans.

By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:56 pm: Edit

I think you should have given some more thought to the colleges you applied to. What are you majoring in? I mean- do seven of the eight ivies really have good programs for it? Would you really be happy at both Brown and Dartmouth? I dont think it's the amount of schools you applied to- it's the broad spectrum. It seems like you dont really know what you want.

By Cruelfate (Cruelfate) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:16 pm: Edit

Looks like I won this one with applications going out to 15 schools:

Georgetown
Harvard
Yale
J. Hokins
U. Miami
C. Mellon
Cornell
G. Washington
Wash. U
Union C.
Brandeis
Vanderbilt
Emory
Brown
Tufts

wow what a long list.... you must be think how dumb I am, but there really is a good reason.. trust me.

By Arthur (Arthur) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:21 pm: Edit

what's the reason?

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:22 pm: Edit

And what is your reason? My reasoning behind applying to so many schools was that I was afraid I wouldn't get into my top two schools. So, I kept moving down the rankings a bit, and then lower and lower to make sure I'd get in somewhere. But now, out of my ten schools...there are 4 that I definitely don't want to go to, 2 that I'm wavering about, and still the same two schools that I've always wanted to go to.

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

yes of course id be happy at all those schools. I wouldnt have wasted my money. unlike some people its easy for me to get along with different social groups. The fact that im poor wont be a big deal at the ivies either due to the fact that most kids are intelligent and there are few rich snobs. So i am hoping to get a good aid package to atleast one ivy or i may attend carleton if i get a good aid package simply because its halfway across the country

By Cruelfate (Cruelfate) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:26 pm: Edit

first off, I'm poor... but I would give anything for the best education I can get
second, my transcript is so messed up because I lived a foreign country for so long, but it is relatively stong. So I wasn't sure if I would do very well or very poorly.
Third, I applied to some schools just because of their bs/md programs. Schools that I wouldn't apply to if they haden't offered the program.
fourth, I got deferred to 3 of my top choice in the early admissions process. So I added more schools when I realized how unrealistic I was.

But notice that I didn't do an IVY sweep... just half. About half of the schools are safetys and the other half streaches... there is no inbetween for me because of my situation. I realize that I will be taking lots of space at many schools that I wont even consider, but that's the way the game goes so I am not appologizing. However, I hope I did explain myself and get the message accross that sometimes we need to do strange things inorder to get by.

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:30 pm: Edit

Don't feel guilty about taking up space. I've heard that colleges factor in that a certain percentage of those admitted won't enroll every year. They aren't going to say....we can't admit candidate B b/c we admitted candidate A....they always admit more people than they have spots available. Check out the stats on your schools' websites if you can find them and you'll find that only about 50% of those accepted actually enroll.

By Cruelfate (Cruelfate) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 12:09 am: Edit

At some much less... like 30%
do you think my resons are justified?

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 12:23 am: Edit

What's a bs/md program? Biological science/medical?

And your reasons are totally justified, they're really similar to mine.

By Bigparoxysm (Bigparoxysm) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:15 am: Edit

Ha!

I beat you all by applying to 19.

I applied to these places:

PSU
Hobart William Smith
Union College
Lafayette College
SUNY Albany
SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Geneseo
University of Pennsylvania
Georgetown University
UVM
Mary Washington College
Siena College
The George Washington University
Vassar College
Colby College
Tufts University
UNC-Chapel Hill
Brown University
Hamilton College

I applied to way too many, but whatever, I just have to wait for my rejections to start arriving.

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:03 am: Edit

yeah, you will get into most of those schools as long as your grades are up to par, Penn and Brown are prolly reaches and a lot of those schools i considered for scholarship purposes but i just couldnt handle a school like vassar. im tough but not that tough lol

By Momx3 (Momx3) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:42 am: Edit

nyguy, when did you hear from colgate?

By William_From_Nc (William_From_Nc) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:56 am: Edit

testing.

By Quarky (Quarky) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:15 am: Edit

I will take 2nd place with 17 schools. * denotes acceptance, & denotes pending:
*Boise State University
* Idaho State
* ALbertson College of ID
*University of Idaho
* Illinois Institute of Technology
*Tulane University
*Colorado School of Mines
*Oregon State
*Kettering
*Tri-State
*Rose-Hulman Inst Tech
*Embry-Riddle Aeronautical U
*Cal Poly
&Caltech
&UC Berk
&UC Davis
&San Jose State U

By Rachel_E (Rachel_E) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit

I guess applying to only 2 qualifies me for last place, then!

By Bigparoxysm (Bigparoxysm) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:51 am: Edit

"yeah, you will get into most of those schools as long as your grades are up to par, Penn and Brown are prolly reaches and a lot of those schools i considered for scholarship purposes but i just couldnt handle a school like vassar. im tough but not that tough lol"

Are you talking to me?

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:38 pm: Edit

Is Vassar supposed to be that hard? I didn't think so, most of the median SATs are in the 1300 range.

Also, how many of the Apps were common app? that makes it a little easier to apply to so many schools.

By Bigparoxysm (Bigparoxysm) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:16 pm: Edit

Kalitiha, are you talking to me?

By Anonmom (Anonmom) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:45 pm: Edit

To Nyguy: how have you been accepted already to several schools that don't have early action (only early decision) unless you applied to more than one college via ED? Just curious (Cornell, Colgate, Carleton) Did you get three "likely letters" from these places?

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 07:34 pm: Edit

nope, due to my above average stats, i was accepted to colgate and carleton a month early. Its a poldiy, other kids in my school got letters from colgate already RD. Carleton specified that since i qualified for a specific scholar program or something where they send out the decisions early. I applied to the CALS at Cornell which makes decisions rolling from February 15th

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 07:35 pm: Edit

oh and as far as the vassar being tough comment, i meant too many feminazis, and too many people who are open their homosexuality. basically those people would drive me nuts, itd be like PCU all over again

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 07:42 pm: Edit

What's PCU? So, Vassar is really liberal? Damn, there goes another school that might be too liberal for my tastes. Are there any conservative schools on the East Coast?

By Pisces (Pisces) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:20 pm: Edit

Smith is conservative. Someone said that Amherst is, but i disagree- it has a lot of philosophical types, but is probably on the liberal side.

By Topcat (Topcat) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:59 pm: Edit

OK, NYGUY, I'll bite. What are your STATS?

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 05:14 pm: Edit

1440 SATs
5th in class
government published research
sports every season
work all year round
- various skills as a result
load of leadership and volunteer work
poor immigrant family
great essays
great recs
hardest curriculum
under represented minority

if you really care, i can post a link to the resume i sent to all my college, which was printed on resume stock - all very professional

By Congocross (Congocross) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 02:35 am: Edit

I apply to only two, Ohio State University and University of Notre Dame. The application fees are just too expensive. To those people to apply to 15 college that is about $750+ (average $50, Ivies around $60). University of Notre Dame is THE place I want to go and Ohio State is just for safty. I suggest people narrow their choices to around 7 and not just apply to the big name schools. Do a little more research.

By Wembleyfraggle7 (Wembleyfraggle7) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:26 pm: Edit

Yeah! I win! I win! :-)

Yale
Harvard
Wellesley
Georgetown
Sarah Lawrence
Duke
Cornell
Columbia
Hopkins
U Penn
NYU
U of Rochester
American University of Paris
Brown
Dartmouth
UNR
UNLV
SUNY Geneseo
Tulane
RIT

20 schools...yes I'd be happy at any of them, although Hopkins is my first choice...I'm one of the lucky "poor" (and independent) students who didn't have to pay application fees (except UNR and UNLV of all places...my 2 last choices)they all offer strong programs in my area...and most importantly...all but 2 or 3 guarantee to meet 100% of your demonstrated financial need :-)

By Icee (Icee) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 02:32 am: Edit

And I thought eight was a lot!

3 I really wanna go to
2 strong maybes
2 maybes
1 definitely not (state univ.)

Yeah... so I didn't just apply for the sake of it.

By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 11:09 am: Edit

2--I really wanna go.
3--I would go if I didn't get into the other 2.
2--Maybe.
3--Definitely don't want to go anymore.

By Mmdd (Mmdd) on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:12 pm: Edit

Wow, I applied to 13 and thought I had a lot:

Williams
Middlebury
Dartmouth
Wellesley
Bowdoin
Wesleyan
Northwestern
Wash U
Swarthmore
Michigan
Univ. of Illinois
Iowa

And I've only heard from about 3, I'm going crazy waiting! Good luck everyone!

By Mmdd (Mmdd) on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:13 pm: Edit

oops, i forgot one:
Tufts

By Frank (Frank) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 12:12 am: Edit

Hmmm, I thought I was at the high end.

13 schools, almost all reach schools....

* means accepted

Stanford (rejected ED)
*MIT
*Columbia
Harvard
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Berkeley
Northwestern
*CMU
*UIUC
*UMich

By Quarky (Quarky) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:02 am: Edit

lol, you guys are all waiting... i've been accepted to 14 so far...

By Leebob (Leebob) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 02:52 pm: Edit

To Quarky: I applied to 6, accepted by 4 and waiting for 2. I've already sent in my declines to 3 of the 4. Seems to me you can't go to all 14 - did you ever consider that someone is out there on a wait-list for one of those schools you are sitting on.

Yeah LOL - but it ain't funny.

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 03:08 pm: Edit

i dont feel bad at all for applying too soo many schools now that iv thought about it. Someone from a waitlist will still get in, and by not accepting admissions, I am not hurting a student, the next qualified student will be accepted from a waitlist anyway. It only hurts the school accept ratios and matriculation ratios. The good part is that all the non ivys i applied to, consider me an extremely competitive applicant and dont necessarily count on my matriculation. There we go, iv justified myself

By Thedad (Thedad) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 06:01 pm: Edit

Someone from a waitlist won't necessarily benefit. All the schools figure in a percentage of admits who won't come, based on historical patterns.

What you do as an individual doesn't have any affect unless you're the nth+1 student to turn them down. What the group of admits does collectively _does_ have an effect on the waiting list.

By Leebob (Leebob) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 06:18 pm: Edit

Still, other than waiting for a finaid package, I can't see why anyone would sit on an acceptance that they are not going to use anyway.

I could see why one of the huge public universities may not be affected by an individual turning in a decline notice earlier than 1 May, but isn't it a simple case of good manners to do so as soon as you know you will not be attending?

By Thedad (Thedad) on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Well, I would. But the point is, it won't be until far down the road, after all the initial admits have finally decided, that waitlisted applicants will be able to step off the waiting list...or not.

By Anotherdad (Anotherdad) on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 05:07 pm: Edit

It would be gracious and useful to cancel out at the schools you know you will not attend. It may help others, especially if the schools have niches to fill. Also, the schools want to get a good picture of their recruitment efforts and the pool -- a lot of schools will ask where you have ended up.
The race is over. It is time for simple courtesies to others.

By Nyguy (Nyguy) on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 11:50 pm: Edit

my acceptance list is expanding and as it expands i feel worse, i was hoping bates would reject me because after my cornell acceptance, there was no chance for the non ivies. The list as it stands now is pretty solid
Accepted:
Cornell
Colgate - 100% scholarships
Bates - 100% scholarhips
Carleton
Bucknell
SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Albany

im just waiting on:
Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia

hopefully atleast 4 of the remaining will reject me so i will not screw up a lot of admit ratios - oh well - its web sites like this that encouraged me to apply to soo many schools anyway
lol
peace


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