|By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 05:48 pm: Edit|
Hey. Which colleges are known for being conservative? I want to make sure I dont go to one since conservatives drive me nuts. So, if anyone knows, just list them. I dont want to list the colleges I'm questioning just so i dont bias anyones opinion.
|By Ickyfoo (Ickyfoo) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:18 pm: Edit|
LoL i dont think you'll have a problem with "conservatives driving you nuts" at most places. most colleges are very liberal. sucks for us conservatives.
|By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:54 pm: Edit|
My thoughts exactly Ickyfoo. I made most of my decisions about where to apply based on paper--the size, the location, the programs, the stats of enrolled students. But, I live so far away from them that I haven't been able to visit. I've come to find that half of them are so liberal I would never feel comfortable there. I thought, "Hey, Dartmouth is supposed to be conservative," then I read that it's not as conservative as it's purported to be. Damn, there goes another college maybe. But, people grow up to be Republicans and they must go to school somewhere---but where do I find them?
Pisces--The most liberal school I've encountered was Grinnell College in Grinnell, Iowa. There are about 5 Republicans going to school there. And most of the student body smokes marijuana regularly. If that sounds like a great place to you, you should check it out.
|By Ickyfoo (Ickyfoo) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:09 pm: Edit|
lol kalitiha. yeah, most places are liberal and we just have to deal with it. i wouldn't cross places off your list just for that since just about every place is liberal(well maybe Grinnell, lol).
|By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:50 pm: Edit|
"And most of the student body smokes marijuana regularly. If that sounds like a great place to you, you should check it out."
Typical judgmental republican thing to say. Since i'm a liberal, I must be a druggie. Goodness knows why I dont get along with conservatives.
No one who voted for Bush could have ever been on anything. Well, thanks for your input anyway. I've already finished applying- but not to Grinnell- too bad, i was hoping all my studying would pay off with a drug infested campus.
As far as Dartmouth goes, it is the most conservative ivy. However, any school consisting of mostly intelligent people would inevitably be mostly liberal. Sucks for you. Doesnt really matter though, if shrub gets his way and we go to war you may be drafted to fight the war this conservative president got us into.
Anyways- from what i've heard about "my" colleges, they're pretty liberal. Oh yeah, I realize that, as you are a conservative, you must not have the broadest sense of humor, so i'll tell you up front- dont take my jabs at republicans too seriously. I'm really just teasing you (for the most part)
|By Ickyfoo (Ickyfoo) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:08 pm: Edit|
|By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:28 pm: Edit|
Haha.....and you think I'm a judgemental, stereotyping Republican? I don't believe I implied that liberals must be druggies...I simply stated the two things that struck me the most on my campus visit. I merely enquired if you considered that a good recreational activity. If you are very liberal, you would probably love Grinnell. But, regardless of political leanings, some people just don't like a large drugs scene, which would rule Grinnell out.
Out of curiousity, where did you apply?
|By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:53 pm: Edit|
First of all - you can deny it, but the liberal= druggie idea was definitely implied. j/k- i really couldnt care less.
Anyways- i applied to
and some safeties
|By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:03 pm: Edit|
Maybe, with the fact I included both in the same sentence. I applied to Middlebury too. Have you visited campus? What did you think of it? I just learned that it's supposed to be really liberal, but what was the overall feel? Ex: When I visited Grinnell, there were signs everywhere saying, "Capitalists are Evil" so it's a definitely more liberal than your average Democrat. Given that example, does Middlebury rate on that level? Above or below? I don't mind going somewhere that has a healthy political debate, even if the school isn't 50-50 conservative-liberal. But I also don't want to be a minority/outcast for my political beliefs like I would be at Grinnell.
Sorry to ask so many questions if you've never visited Middlebury.
|By Pisces (Pisces) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:17 pm: Edit|
I visited Middlebury and I loved it. It's definitely liberal, but it's not extremist. I'm sure you would be more likely to find some heated political debates than a mob out to kill you. It didnt seem like their lives revolved around politics- they have better things to do. They're very environmentally conscious, which makes for a gorgeous campus. The people there seemed down to earth and friendly. They seemed really accepting- so i dont think political views would be an issue. The only possible down side to it is that it is smack dab in the middle of absolutely nowhere. It's still one of my favorites though. Good luck.
|By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 11:24 pm: Edit|
Thanks, and I actually prefer a campus smack dab in the middle of nowhere. That's cool about an environmentally conscious campus. I've lobbied at my State Legislature to have the bottle bill expanded. That's the bill that gives you refunds on pop bottles, to have it expanded to juice and water bottles b/c that's just needless waste and to prevent grocery stores from weasling out of not providing recycle/refund collection sites.
|By Tenisghs (Tenisghs) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 02:55 pm: Edit|
Washington and Lee is a VERY conservative LAC.
|By Kalitiha (Kalitiha) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:05 pm: Edit|
and I had no interest in applying there.......it's in St. Louis right?
|By Incognito (Incognito) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:34 pm: Edit|
Bob Jones = quasi-fascist in a sense
|By Asdf (Asdf) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:34 pm: Edit|
Washington and Lee is different from Washington University in St. Louis. I would say WUSTL is liberal
|By Erin (Erin) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 10:54 pm: Edit|
Pisces- I'd say the reason most colleges (and college students) are so liberal is because there's a lot more philosophic ideas in the curriculum, particularly at liberal arts colleges, which tends to inpsire idealism. It is not because more intelligent people are naturally liberal.
|By Incognito (Incognito) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:01 pm: Edit|
Actually, more intelligent people are naturally liberal (IMO)...
|By Militarygrade (Militarygrade) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:20 pm: Edit|
Incognito - with age (typically) comes wisdom and conservative thought.
Fact is, most people over the age of 40 are conservatives. While you might think that you've seen and done it all, and while you might think you've done all the mental maturing you are going to do, the fact remains that you really probably have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
|By Neotech (Neotech) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 10:48 am: Edit|
Great intellectuals exist in every major area of productive human activity. Genuine intellectuals are those businessmen, industrialists, scientists, engineers, artists, musicians, and educators who advance their profession by using their minds honestly in working hard through rational actions. A rational, hard-driving, successful mining engineer, for example, is highly intellectual in mining, but may not be highly intellectual in English literature. At the same time, a university professor of English literature is probably not highly intellectual in mining. Indeed, he may be incompetent to function intellectually in any area of business. Perhaps he is even incompetent in English, especially if he or she is a low-effort, laid-back, tenured professor living off taxpayers. Such professors damage students' minds by using non sequiturs to attack the potency of the logical mind, reason, heroic value producers, and their life-giving products.
The only difference between intellectualism in the business world versus intellectualism in the academic world is that performance in business is much easier to measure and thus more difficult to fake. That is why the academic world accumulates such a high percentage of lazy charlatans and clever pseudo-intellectuals compared to the business world. Those charlatans and pseudo intellectuals cannot survive in the business world. For, through their fake jobs cleverly designed to camouflage their laziness and dishonesty, they have become uncompetitive and incompetent. Still, they can fake lifelong careers in the academic world. And as long as mysticism and altruism dominate philosophical thought, such pseudo-intellectual neocheaters will proliferate throughout the academic world.
|By Topcat0214 (Topcat0214) on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:45 pm: Edit|
I hate to see Grinnell bashed so violently all the time for being liberal. I don't think they are all so anti-capitalist as the banners you saw on campus might suggest - among other things, Warren Buffet is a trustee and the founder of Intel has donated millions to the campus. They don't seem to mind. On most campuses, you're going to find at least a few socialists and communists - who will tend to be vocal. Also - I've noticed that students at Grinnell have a sense of humor - so it wouldn't surprise me if someone thought it would be funny to put up these signs to freak out prospective students' parents.
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