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By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:19 pm: Edit

what colleges do you think will emerge as top 25 schools of the future

ill start

.. Geroge washington university and boston university

By Adr531 (Adr531) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:30 pm: Edit

northeastern u

By Candi1657 (Candi1657) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:30 pm: Edit

New College of Florida.

By Bart_Simpson22 (Bart_Simpson22) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:35 pm: Edit

USC!!

By Jmancer (Jmancer) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:39 pm: Edit

wash u

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:25 pm: Edit

i'll mention tufts

By Benjamin (Benjamin) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:30 pm: Edit

...Washington University is already in the top 25 (according to USNWR)

By Bmurry (Bmurry) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:38 pm: Edit

Pomona (I don't think enough ppl have heard of it)

USC
NYU

I think Vandy's star is falling...or at least hope it is :)

By Benjamin (Benjamin) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:47 pm: Edit

That would be a big NO. Vanderbilt's acceptance rate has fallen pretty drastically this year because of a big increase in its application pool. Its reputation is becoming WAY more national (along with Emory), and I don't think that will be changing any time soon. USC and NYU have nothing on Vandy, except their big cities.

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 11:20 pm: Edit

schools in big cities seems to be the up and coming trend (increase in apps and selectivity at nyu, bu, gwu.. emergence of columbia as one of the ivy powerhouses)

By Emperoriv (Emperoriv) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 11:51 pm: Edit

U of Toronto

By Edmoney (Edmoney) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 01:14 am: Edit

Go Columbia!

By Gianscolere (Gianscolere) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 11:38 am: Edit

pomona college and columbia university are already considered elite.

i think emory and nyu will grow increasingly more selective over the years.

By Angstridden (Angstridden) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:11 pm: Edit

I think UMDCP wull continue to grow in selectivity ..(not just cus D. may go there).
The new performing arts school is beautiful and will attract students. The sports are phenomenal along with the new center.
Also the business dept. is super strong.

By Pcqo (Pcqo) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:17 pm: Edit

purdue

By Aoe2guy (Aoe2guy) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 04:38 pm: Edit

NYU
and i think princeton will always be 1,2 or 3.

By Shanbangs (Shanbangs) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 05:18 pm: Edit

McGill

By Studentoflife (Studentoflife) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 05:36 pm: Edit

BYU...80% of student body is multi lingual, and most have lived abroad (not just studied, lived).

By Radiostar (Radiostar) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Space College, located on the rim of the Nebulon Five Galaxy.

By Mafmaf22 (Mafmaf22) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 08:54 pm: Edit

Wash U is 9th, i don't think they can emerge into the top 25, but maybe top 5

By Zephyrmaster (Zephyrmaster) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 09:06 pm: Edit

U of Chicago will gain prestige.

By Jlq3d3 (Jlq3d3) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit

Pomona cant be in us news top 25 because its a lib arts college. It is ranked very high though on the lib arts list of us news. USC will for sure be in top 25 within 4 yrs.

By Zorro5280 (Zorro5280) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 11:44 pm: Edit

Olin

By Stargazrlilychk (Stargazrlilychk) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 12:51 am: Edit

these may not be on that chart specifically, but some schools that seem to be rapidly growing in prestige:
chicago, columbia, vassar, nyu, washington

By Thekev (Thekev) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 08:52 pm: Edit

UT Austin

By Jolt21 (Jolt21) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:02 pm: Edit

new college of florida...they are already sending one of the most highest ratio of students to grad schools like harvard, yale, princeton, and columbia...just watch, you will all see...

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:25 pm: Edit

thats the florida's public honors college right?

By Digmedia (Digmedia) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:31 pm: Edit

Probably will be Trump University (was NYU) and Time-Warner University (was Columbia). Like stadium names and football bowl games, corporate grants can buy a lot, and that's at least one way to keep tuitions from skyrocketing. An earlier example was Jack Eckerd's (Eckerd Drugs) gifts to Florida Presbyterian College. It's now Eckerd College.

By Kyle (Kyle) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 03:26 pm: Edit

what are you guys talking about? Chicago is already one of the most prestigious schools in the nation, and argubly the most prestigious in the midwest.

By Netmet (Netmet) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 08:02 pm: Edit

I agree with the person who posted UT Austin. That is slowly becoming one of the top tier public schools in the country, although I still think it may be a little while until it reaches top 25. And Columbia is already top 25. I agree Vassar is also ascending to the top and I'm sure there will be some small liberal arts schools that sneak in the top 25 as well.

By Candi1657 (Candi1657) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 08:22 pm: Edit

I1lmatics- Yes, it is. It's also very small (671 students) and one of the upcoming premier public liberal arts colleges.

By Cybernetica (Cybernetica) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 09:18 pm: Edit

Vandy vs NYU = no comparison in terms of intellectual resources.

Don't get me wrong, I applied to Vandy and not NYU and the former seemed to have higher general admissino criteria (in terms of mean SAT scores *I* remember reading...don't quote me on that though), but there is just no comparing the scholarly, liberal-arts-esque achievements of faculty at NYU vs Vandy, no matter how much I wish Vandy was dominant.

Just look at the course catalogue. Yes, NYU offers a wide variety of general, "blow-off" classes to undergrads (and the capitalization of these is part of what turned me off to it...plus I'd just had a much more interesting time hanging around Columbia), but that notwithstanding you have some of the leading art history critics, film theorists, creative writers, and cardiovascular medical researchers all neatly condensed in the amazing vibrance of the Village. I've visited Vandy, talked to profs, sat in classes, and - most of the time - I have been sad to say the level of rigour in smaller seminar type classes didn't really compare...some of it was almost high school ap and post ap stuff.

That said, I believe vandy will give students much more attention, and the opportunities to actually DO human research, particularly in varying aspects of psych/cog sci/ nursing/ teaching/ wfyb at Peabody fars outweighs that of the stuffy IRB process at NYU, and in general there is a different kind of environmental charm and semi comfort that most people will just not be able to afford at NYU.

Thus, in light of all this, the evidence for the top contenders is clear.

UNevada, LV - Because Harvard doesn't offer a gambling elective.

UHawaii, Honululu - Because you never grass skirt dancing could be so much fun.

By Benjamin (Benjamin) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:14 pm: Edit

In the liberal arts, there is no doubt NYU is better...but if you want a research school, whether it be for medical, law, education (especially) I think you'd be better of at Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is even rather well known for some the arts, obviously NYU's expertise. The Blair school of music is one of the best in the country, and their other arts programs are nothing to scoff at.

To make this post relevant....

I think Wisconsin-Madison will get more prestigous in later years....

By Chris2121 (Chris2121) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:32 pm: Edit

If you want to do research in medicine, law, etc., I don't see how NYU could be beat. They have one of the best medical schools in the country. (They own/operate Bellvue, which is Manhattan's signature ER, that covers most of the city, as well as the NYU medical center, another hospital) NYU's law school is always within the top 5 in the country, right behind Harvard, Yale and Stanford. They even have a completely separate law library with just about every book written on the subject. In the end, I think that NYU's location is its best asset. The school is replete with ad hoc internships, and to an employer, the NYU name, I believe, would speak more than a Vanderbilt title, IMO.

By Kkgirl06 (Kkgirl06) on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 09:58 am: Edit

Vanderbilt beats NYU in medicine hands down. (Vandy is #14 while NYU is #28). Sure, NYU is great for law at #5 but Vandy is not far behind and still in the top 20. Though its a good med school, NYU just isn't as good or as well known as a traditionally great med school like Vanderbilt.

"the NYU name, I believe, would speak more than a Vanderbilt title, IMO."

Let me guess...you're from the north? I definately think that the prestige of the Vanderbilt/NYU name varies greatly with geographical region. NYU will naturally be more presigious in the north while Vanderbilt is without a doubt more prestigious in the south.

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:15 am: Edit

there is no question that a nyu beats out vandy in the law department.. it offers one of the best law degrees around.. most of the kids in nyu's law school come out of ivy undergrads, it is a fact that they stress in order to show the extreme difficulty for an nyu undergrad to be admitted into nyu law; something commonly mispercieved

By Kyle (Kyle) on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 01:16 pm: Edit

I'm from the West and NYU carries a bigger name than Vanderbilt here too.

By Benjamin (Benjamin) on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 04:09 pm: Edit

Obviously not the MIDwest...my friend from Chicago said that most people there consider Vanderbilt to be much better than NYU...

By Cornellian (Cornellian) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:17 am: Edit

Why would NYU change its name to Trump University when Donald Trump went to Penn? I don't think he would lower his standards by that much. As for the topic of discussion, I think Penn, Columbia, Cornell and Chicago will all gain better name recognition while RPI, NYU and USC are slated to see increases in prestige.

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:25 am: Edit

Because Donald Trump is NYC and NYC is Donald Trump.. his premeire real estate is in the city

hypothetically speaking, if donald trump bought nyu, i predict it would surpass almost all ivy league schools in 10 years just because he is a business genius

By Hahvahd08 (Hahvahd08) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:38 am: Edit

Why not start with Columbia or Penn, that way he wouldn't have to work from the bottom. I think that as long as NYU stays in NYC, it will always be in the shadow of Columbia.

By Wutdeh (Wutdeh) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:41 am: Edit

I read that Trumps daughter is going to Penn law. She is really hot.

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:45 am: Edit

Yea...I wanna study her

By Wutdeh (Wutdeh) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:47 am: Edit

er nevermind not penn law, wharton.

I bet Daddy Trump paid a lot of money to get her in, also.

By Regulus (Regulus) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:48 am: Edit

I've seen her on campus a few times, definitely a nice addition to the university. I'm pretty sure she's in Wharton.

By Flyguy (Flyguy) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:52 am: Edit

He didnt pay a lot of money... He's a Wharton alumnus...

By I1lmatics (I1lmatics) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:10 am: Edit

trump's daughter was going out with tom brady at a point dont know if she still is


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